Anyone else like to look at Snap Map?
Since I can't be in every city in the world all at once, I've enjoyed looking at Snap Map lately to check out all the wild times! There's been a lot of parties at universities and in the streets lately that people have put up on Snap Map!
If you're trying to make certain people on here angry with these childish, provocative posts, you're doing a great job. For the record I agree that COVID is overblown, but like what's the point of trolling people over it?
Quote from: thspfc on December 03, 2020, 01:00:06 PM
If you're trying to make certain people on here angry with these childish, provocative posts, you're doing a great job. For the record I agree that COVID is overblown, but like what's the point of trolling people over it?
First time in Timworld?
Quote from: thspfc on December 03, 2020, 01:00:06 PM
but like what's the point of trolling people over it?
(https://i.imgur.com/6hRMgBu.png)
:coffee:Too early in my day for this shit ... just gonna move on. :coffee: :meh:
Quote from: thspfc on December 03, 2020, 01:00:06 PM
If you're trying to make certain people on here angry with these childish, provocative posts, you're doing a great job. For the record I agree that COVID is overblown, but like what's the point of trolling people over it?
What is childish, provocative, or COVID-related about this post?
I never heard of Snap Map. Is it an app or a website or something else entirely? A combination of Snapchat and Mapquest? :-D
Quote from: hbelkins on December 03, 2020, 03:50:40 PM
I never heard of Snap Map. Is it an app or a website or something else entirely? A combination of Snapchat and Mapquest? :-D
You're basically correct. It's Snapchat's built in map. You can look to see where your friends are (if they have their location enabled for you) and see public stories for specific areas.
As for me, I only use it occasionally to see where friends are. I never look at the public stories since they are more than likely idiots sharing that they're being idiots.
Quote from: hbelkins on December 03, 2020, 03:50:40 PM
Quote from: thspfc on December 03, 2020, 01:00:06 PM
If you're trying to make certain people on here angry with these childish, provocative posts, you're doing a great job. For the record I agree that COVID is overblown, but like what's the point of trolling people over it?
What is childish, provocative, or COVID-related about this post?
I second this question. I'm missing the trolling part, too.
Quote from: SectorZ on December 03, 2020, 04:41:27 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 03, 2020, 03:50:40 PM
Quote from: thspfc on December 03, 2020, 01:00:06 PM
If you're trying to make certain people on here angry with these childish, provocative posts, you're doing a great job. For the record I agree that COVID is overblown, but like what's the point of trolling people over it?
What is childish, provocative, or COVID-related about this post?
I second this question. I'm missing the trolling part, too.
It's a "here are some people ignoring COVID restrictions, and that's a good thing" type of post.
Snap Map: A safety-oriented Waze equivalent for mice?
I immediately thought of the "snap to grid" feature in AutoCAD.
Quote from: 1 on December 03, 2020, 05:45:02 PM
It's a "here are some people ignoring COVID restrictions, and that's a good thing" type of post.
Only if your immediate reaction to everything in the world right now is "COVID". That's not the only existence possible.
Quote from: kphoger on December 03, 2020, 10:12:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 03, 2020, 05:45:02 PM
It's a "here are some people ignoring COVID restrictions, and that's a good thing" type of post.
Only if your immediate reaction to everything in the world right now is "COVID". That's not the only existence possible.
Minimizing it and bringing harm to oneself or others is an option, I suppose. An immoral one, but an option.
Quote from: Rothman on December 04, 2020, 01:02:06 AM
Quote from: kphoger on December 03, 2020, 10:12:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 03, 2020, 05:45:02 PM
It's a "here are some people ignoring COVID restrictions, and that's a good thing" type of post.
Only if your immediate reaction to everything in the world right now is "COVID". That's not the only existence possible.
Minimizing it and bringing harm to oneself or others is an option, I suppose. An immoral one, but an option.
How is looking at a map of what other people are doing bringing harm to oneself or others. It's immoral?
I literally can't wrap my head around the fake outrage in this post. It starts to seem targeted against bandit for reasons unexplained.
Quote from: SectorZ on December 04, 2020, 07:10:46 AM
Quote from: Rothman on December 04, 2020, 01:02:06 AM
Quote from: kphoger on December 03, 2020, 10:12:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 03, 2020, 05:45:02 PM
It's a "here are some people ignoring COVID restrictions, and that's a good thing" type of post.
Only if your immediate reaction to everything in the world right now is "COVID". That's not the only existence possible.
Minimizing it and bringing harm to oneself or others is an option, I suppose. An immoral one, but an option.
How is looking at a map of what other people are doing bringing harm to oneself or others. It's immoral?
I literally can't wrap my head around the fake outrage in this post. It starts to seem targeted against bandit for reasons unexplained.
bandit isn't bringing harm to oneself or others. The people he's talking about, having parties during COVID, are.
Quote from: SectorZ on December 04, 2020, 07:10:46 AM
Quote from: Rothman on December 04, 2020, 01:02:06 AM
Quote from: kphoger on December 03, 2020, 10:12:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 03, 2020, 05:45:02 PM
It's a "here are some people ignoring COVID restrictions, and that's a good thing" type of post.
Only if your immediate reaction to everything in the world right now is "COVID". That's not the only existence possible.
Minimizing it and bringing harm to oneself or others is an option, I suppose. An immoral one, but an option.
How is looking at a map of what other people are doing bringing harm to oneself or others. It's immoral?
I literally can't wrap my head around the fake outrage in this post. It starts to seem targeted against bandit for reasons unexplained.
I'm not outraged and I don't care if college students want to have parties. They can make their own desicisions without local politicians and governors breathing down their necks. I'm kindly pointing out that this is just rage bait for those who are more concerned about COVID and feel that people should stay alone in their houses until 2097. Though to be fair to Bandit, everything is rage bait to those people so . . .
I don't see how it's any more "childish, provocative, or COVID-related" than any post on this forum about people's family holiday gatherings, worship services, or whatever.
Forgive my over-extended metaphor, but... Suddenly, every single social aspect of life gets filtered through the reader's COVID-colored lenses, and then they tell you what "color" your life is based on their perception. If, however, someone else's lenses are colored by something other than COVID, or their own COVID lenses are a different color, then an argument breaks out about what color the reality is.
My point is that "harm", "safety", "risk", "danger", and such things are pretty subjective in nature. For example, I started taking my family to Mexico right around the time drug cartel violence was soaring. Some people (family and friends and church leaders included) called us irresponsible and stupid. A few who might otherwise have gone with us on a trip declined to go out of fear. They viewed reality through cartel-colored lenses. Meanwhile one of our ministry associates, who travels there from Mississippi a couple of times every month, was hardly paying any mind to news articles and statistics. He was focused instead on the mission work he was doing, the ins and outs of importing materials, the oversight of construction, the needs of the people, the activities of the local Mexican churches, organizing mission teams from his home congregation, etc, etc, etc. He viewed reality through differently-colored lenses. Then there was me, who did a lot of research into the actual data of crime in Mexico, and came to my own conclusions (that traveling there was slightly more risky than here in the USA but not by very much); my cartel-colored lenses weren't the same color. The reality was the same, but our perceptions of it all differed. It's the same with COVID. Not everyone views reality through the same lenses. What one person sees as "harmful" another sees as "just part of life". What one sees as "too risky to bother" another sees as "reason for caution". What one sees as "troll bait" another sees as "an interesting read".
Quote from: Rothman on December 04, 2020, 01:02:06 AM
Quote from: kphoger on December 03, 2020, 10:12:43 PM
Only if your immediate reaction to everything in the world right now is "COVID". That's not the only existence possible.
Minimizing it and bringing harm to oneself or others is an option, I suppose. An immoral one, but an option.
Quote from: 1 on December 04, 2020, 07:18:32 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on December 04, 2020, 07:10:46 AM
How is looking at a map of what other people are doing bringing harm to oneself or others. It's immoral?
bandit isn't bringing harm to oneself or others. The people he's talking about, having parties during COVID, are.
Those people have already potentially brought harm to themselves or others. Posting it on a map or a timeline or whatever doesn't somehow harm them
even more. Nor does looking at or reading about their actions bring any harm to
you or me.
So apparently by calling out obvious trolling, I'm looking at everything through a COVID lens. Just because like two people didn't follow what I said doesn't mean that I'm looking through a COVID lens. You have to be living under a rock to not know what the current situation is with college students and their partying. Some people don't like it due to COVID.
So in conclusion, I'm sorry for pointing out trolling and looking at everything through a COVID lens, because apparently the alternative is completely ignoring it.
Quote from: thspfc on December 04, 2020, 11:07:30 AM
So apparently by calling out obvious trolling, I'm looking at everything through a COVID lens. Just because like two people didn't follow what I said doesn't mean that I'm looking through a COVID lens. You have to be living under a rock to not know what the current situation is with college students and their partying. Some people don't like it due to COVID.
So in conclusion, I'm sorry for pointing out trolling and looking at everything through a COVID lens, because apparently the alternative is completely ignoring it.
Part of the reason people are attacking you is that bandit is known for starting threads that are
completely off-topic, and you're treating it as an unusual occurrence. This is the reason for reply #2.
Quote from: thspfc on December 04, 2020, 08:33:29 AM
I don't care if college students want to have parties. They can make their own desicisions without local politicians and governors breathing down their necks.
They're continuing to have parties, which clearly demonstrates that they can't make good decisions even with politicians breathing down their necks.
Hospitals are near capacity--again. Maybe this seems trivial to you because none of the patients or hospital employees are people you know. Just hope you don't experience any kind of trauma, like a bad car accident, while the hospitals are this full. When you get to the ER, the respiratory therapist who you need to intubate you and is usually stationed in the ER waiting for trauma patients to come in is up in the ICU, because the RTs up there can't keep up. As a result, it takes him/her 3 minutes to get to you instead of 30 seconds, and that might make the difference as to whether or not you survive. Or maybe the ER nurse that was supposed to help save you quit because he/she had seen too many people die and couldn't take it anymore, and the replacement is someone who has never worked trauma before but that's all the hospital could hire right now.
COVID is a very extreme example of Americans being so bedazzled by the concept of freedom that they just can't avoid doing something that has negative consequences if those consequences aren't immediate. It's the same mindset that leads to smoking, drugs and obesity. Those things won't kill us next week, but when we're on our death beds at age 45 we get upset at everybody but ourselves.
I don't give a fuck if I've hurt anybody's feelings and/or get this thread locked. I'm tired of my wife coming home every morning either crying uncontrollably or screaming at me for no reason because it's her only outlet for the horror she's experiencing at work, because people are too selfish to do what medical experts are suggesting.
This thread is gonna get locked, but I am 100% with everything said here:
Quote from: cabiness42 on December 04, 2020, 11:31:05 AM
Hospitals are near capacity--again. Maybe this seems trivial to you because none of the patients or hospital employees are people you know. Just hope you don't experience any kind of trauma, like a bad car accident, while the hospitals are this full. When you get to the ER, the respiratory therapist who you need to intubate you and is usually stationed in the ER waiting for trauma patients to come in is up in the ICU, because the RTs up there can't keep up. As a result, it takes him/her 3 minutes to get to you instead of 30 seconds, and that might make the difference as to whether or not you survive. Or maybe the ER nurse that was supposed to help save you quit because he/she had seen too many people die and couldn't take it anymore, and the replacement is someone who has never worked trauma before but that's all the hospital could hire right now.
COVID is a very extreme example of Americans being so bedazzled by the concept of freedom that they just can't avoid doing something that has negative consequences if those consequences aren't immediate. It's the same mindset that leads to smoking, drugs and obesity. Those things won't kill us next week, but when we're on our death beds at age 45 we get upset at everybody but ourselves.
I don't give a fuck if I've hurt anybody's feelings and/or get this thread locked. I'm tired of my wife coming home every morning either crying uncontrollably or screaming at me for no reason because it's her only outlet for the horror she's experiencing at work, because people are too selfish to do what medical experts are suggesting.
I, too, am married to someone who's been working in hospitals since before the beginning of this pandemic, and in a totally different part of the US, it's the same thing. All she really wants to do right now is to tell people who aren't following guidelines that they should be denied healthcare, though of course she can't and won't.
COVID is not a huge
personal risk to most individuals, but it's a gigantic
systemic risk to everyone. Our healthcare system was not designed for this. I'm tired of seeing people evaluate the risk of COVID as if it's their own decision because they're
only putting themselves at risk.
Quote from: citrus on December 04, 2020, 12:00:02 PM
This thread is gonna get locked, but I am 100% with everything said here:
Quote from: cabiness42 on December 04, 2020, 11:31:05 AM
Hospitals are near capacity--again. Maybe this seems trivial to you because none of the patients or hospital employees are people you know. Just hope you don't experience any kind of trauma, like a bad car accident, while the hospitals are this full. When you get to the ER, the respiratory therapist who you need to intubate you and is usually stationed in the ER waiting for trauma patients to come in is up in the ICU, because the RTs up there can't keep up. As a result, it takes him/her 3 minutes to get to you instead of 30 seconds, and that might make the difference as to whether or not you survive. Or maybe the ER nurse that was supposed to help save you quit because he/she had seen too many people die and couldn't take it anymore, and the replacement is someone who has never worked trauma before but that's all the hospital could hire right now.
COVID is a very extreme example of Americans being so bedazzled by the concept of freedom that they just can't avoid doing something that has negative consequences if those consequences aren't immediate. It's the same mindset that leads to smoking, drugs and obesity. Those things won't kill us next week, but when we're on our death beds at age 45 we get upset at everybody but ourselves.
I don't give a fuck if I've hurt anybody's feelings and/or get this thread locked. I'm tired of my wife coming home every morning either crying uncontrollably or screaming at me for no reason because it's her only outlet for the horror she's experiencing at work, because people are too selfish to do what medical experts are suggesting.
I, too, am married to someone who's been working in hospitals since before the beginning of this pandemic, and in a totally different part of the US, it's the same thing. All she really wants to do right now is to tell people who aren't following guidelines that they should be denied healthcare, though of course she can't and won't.
COVID is not a huge personal risk to most individuals, but it's a gigantic systemic risk to everyone. Our healthcare system was not designed for this. I'm tired of seeing people evaluate the risk of COVID as if it's their own decision because they're only putting themselves at risk.
Not usually one to throw my hat into these types of threads, but my girlfriend also works in a hospital and I totally agree with both cabiness42 and citrus.
I just posted about this in the COVID thread started by tolbs17, but both my girlfriend & I tested positive a month ago. Why? Because my girlfriend (a pediatric nurse) had an infant patient, and the mother decided to go to a Halloween party (with relatives who she knew were positive at that point), then return to the hospital immediately afterward. She then infected both her infant daughter (already in the hospital for something else, mind you) and my girlfriend, and I quickly got it thru proxy as well.
My girlfriend & I are both recovered and fine now after minor cold-like symptoms (luckily), but it's incredibly frustrating that we did nothing wrong and still got COVID because someone else decided to be incredibly stupid. It would honestly be less infuriating if we had gone to a Halloween party and infected ourselves, because then we would have no one but ourselves to blame.
So, yeah. Like citrus said, it's not only yourself that's being put at risk.
...didn't the original COVID thread get locked?
Do we need another rehashing back and forth thread on COVID?
Quote from: jmacswimmer on December 04, 2020, 12:09:50 PM
So, yeah. Like citrus said, it's not only yourself that's being put at risk.
And that is the whole point. You don't know if you might infect someone who is vulnerable because you decided to do something risky.
As pointed out above, risk perception is relative. But when you weigh the risks vs the benefits, it often times becomes more clear. Was going to that party important enough to infect your infant child, let alone your health care worker and her friends/family?
Quote from: thspfc on December 04, 2020, 11:07:30 AM
So apparently by calling out obvious trolling, I'm looking at everything through a COVID lens. Just because like two people didn't follow what I said doesn't mean that I'm looking through a COVID lens. You have to be living under a rock to not know what the current situation is with college students and their partying. Some people don't like it due to COVID.
So in conclusion, I'm sorry for pointing out trolling and looking at everything through a COVID lens, because apparently the alternative is completely ignoring it.
No, we're saying that asking if anyone else uses Snap Map isn't "obvious trolling".
And enjoying watching videos of parties is not the same thing as promoting the disregard of CDC guidelines. You might as well say he's also advocating binge drinking by his comment. Yet nobody said
that, now did they?
Quote from: jemacedo9 on December 04, 2020, 12:12:58 PM
...didn't the original COVID thread get locked?
Do we need another rehashing back and forth thread on COVID?
Exactly. Can we get this discussion back on topic? Which, for those who've forgotten, is Snap Map.
Quote from: kphoger on December 04, 2020, 12:19:22 PM
Exactly. Can we get this discussion back on topic? Which, for those who've forgotten, is Snap Map.
I can't tell if I'm making it worse or not. I feel like I started the whole thing with 12/03/20 05:45:02 PM (reply #8 for those who don't put most recent first), but the post I made two posts later is one of the few "safe" posts in the thread.
Quote from: kphoger on December 04, 2020, 12:19:22 PM
Quote from: thspfc on December 04, 2020, 11:07:30 AM
So apparently by calling out obvious trolling, I'm looking at everything through a COVID lens. Just because like two people didn't follow what I said doesn't mean that I'm looking through a COVID lens. You have to be living under a rock to not know what the current situation is with college students and their partying. Some people don't like it due to COVID.
So in conclusion, I'm sorry for pointing out trolling and looking at everything through a COVID lens, because apparently the alternative is completely ignoring it.
No, we're saying that asking if anyone else uses Snap Map isn't "obvious trolling".
And enjoying watching videos of parties is not the same thing as promoting the disregard of CDC guidelines. You might as well say he's also advocating binge drinking by his comment. Yet nobody said that, now did they?
What? Did you read my entire comment? COVID is a major event right now. If someone says something that is quite obivously referring to COVID (or, more specifically, people's response to it), am I just not supposed to say anything even if I want to?
For example, say that somebody makes a post titled "I-95" but their post reads, "Anyone else ever driven I-95? I hate PADOT for designating I-99." It's an only vaguely related but overly specifc example. You think it's a coincidence that colleges are being scrutinized about COVID stuff and that's the specific example that Bandit chose?
Quote from: 1 on December 04, 2020, 12:39:16 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 04, 2020, 12:19:22 PM
Exactly. Can we get this discussion back on topic? Which, for those who've forgotten, is Snap Map.
I can't tell if I'm making it worse or not. I feel like I started the whole thing with 12/03/20 05:45:02 PM (reply #8 for those who don't put most recent first), but the post I made two posts later is one of the few "safe" posts in the thread.
Everyone is making it worse. Bandit started it, I called out his trolling, then hbelkins and SectorZ innocently asked what I meant. I stated what I meant, then kphoger went into some weird post about a "COVID lens", I responded to it, said some things that were not called for, and things got completely derailed. I don't think you're the problem, I think it's just the COVID debate happening all over again.
Quote from: thspfc on December 04, 2020, 02:22:46 PM
I don't think you're the problem, I think it's just the COVID debate happening all over again.
Yep, and we all know how
that went! :fight:
Quote from: jemacedo9 on December 04, 2020, 12:12:58 PM
...didn't the original COVID thread get locked?
Do we need another rehashing back and forth thread on COVID?
about that thread:
The mod note (from Alps) said that the thread was "locked for now", but "for now" has been over four months. Similar case with "How has the pandemic affected your perception". Since a mod will probably lock this thread anyways, maybe we could know if that clusterfuck will make a return or not.
thspfc: Maybe this would be better as a PM, but maybe I should show a little bit of understanding that I probably wasn't helpful in my reply.
OP bandit957/Tim Brown is an "original" roadgeek who makes random posts like this sometimes. Once you get used to it, you'll just learn to ignore it or perhaps find it a little amusing some of the stuff he comes up with because it's way the hell out there. Bubble gum has been a favorite topic of his, many times stories randomly include people chewing gum or blowing bubbles otherwise irrelevant to the rest of the story. Sesame Street will also be prominently featured.
Quote from: ozarkman417 on December 04, 2020, 02:33:56 PM
Quote from: jemacedo9 on December 04, 2020, 12:12:58 PM
...didn't the original COVID thread get locked?
Do we need another rehashing back and forth thread on COVID?
about that thread:
The mod note (from Alps) said that the thread was "locked for now", but "for now" has been over four months. Similar case with "How has the pandemic affected your perception". Since a mod will probably lock this thread anyways, maybe we could know if that clusterfuck will make a return or not.
I suspect "for now" is "until it stops being political".
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on December 04, 2020, 02:48:12 PM
thspfc: Maybe this would be better as a PM, but maybe I should show a little bit of understanding that I probably wasn't helpful in my reply.
OP bandit957/Tim Brown is an "original" roadgeek who makes random posts like this sometimes. Once you get used to it, you'll just learn to ignore it or perhaps find it a little amusing some of the stuff he comes up with because it's way the hell out there. Bubble gum has been a favorite topic of his, many times stories randomly include people chewing gum or blowing bubbles otherwise irrelevant to the rest of the story. Sesame Street will also be prominently featured.
I'm surprised nobody has asked if there are pictures on Snap Map of people whose heads are shaped like Speak n' Spells, or who got gum caught in a Jane child, or something along those lines.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on December 04, 2020, 02:48:12 PM
thspfc: Maybe this would be better as a PM, but maybe I should show a little bit of understanding that I probably wasn't helpful in my reply.
OP bandit957/Tim Brown is an "original" roadgeek who makes random posts like this sometimes. Once you get used to it, you'll just learn to ignore it or perhaps find it a little amusing some of the stuff he comes up with because it's way the hell out there. Bubble gum has been a favorite topic of his, many times stories randomly include people chewing gum or blowing bubbles otherwise irrelevant to the rest of the story. Sesame Street will also be prominently featured.
I've been on the forum for almost two years now, so I am familiar with Bandit's randomness. Most of the time I find it amusing, but when it's a clear attempt at getting a reaction from other people I don't like it.
Quote from: vdeane on December 04, 2020, 02:54:38 PM
I'm surprised nobody has asked if there are pictures on Snap Map of people whose heads are shaped like Speak n' Spells, or who got gum caught in a Jane child, or something along those lines.
:bigass: LOL!
I've gotten used to bandit's threads. Sometimes he provides that certain 'mental nudge' that changes my mood. His picture posts revolving around his travels are awesome. I don't see how any of his original post is trolling, but I wanted to get in and defend him before the thread gets locked.
:cheers:
Quote from: thspfc on December 04, 2020, 02:22:46 PM
Everyone is making it worse. Bandit started it, I called out his trolling, then hbelkins and SectorZ innocently asked what I meant. I stated what I meant, then kphoger went into some weird post about a "COVID lens", I responded to it, said some things that were not called for, and things got completely derailed. I don't think you're the problem, I think it's just the COVID debate happening all over again.
Maybe my COVID lenses are fogged up, because I didn't see anything COVID-related in the original post. That's why I asked the question. Maybe some people have more sensitive COVID rabbit ears than I do. I saw no trolling whatsoever in his post. That, and I had no clue what Snap Map is. I have Snapchat installed but haven't used it other than to fool around with some of the frames/filters -- and most of those are now available on Facebook Messenger, so i don't know why I keep Snapchat.
Quote from: hbelkins on December 04, 2020, 07:58:04 PM
Quote from: thspfc on December 04, 2020, 02:22:46 PM
Everyone is making it worse. Bandit started it, I called out his trolling, then hbelkins and SectorZ innocently asked what I meant. I stated what I meant, then kphoger went into some weird post about a "COVID lens", I responded to it, said some things that were not called for, and things got completely derailed. I don't think you're the problem, I think it's just the COVID debate happening all over again.
Maybe my COVID lenses are fogged up, because I didn't see anything COVID-related in the original post. That's why I asked the question. Maybe some people have more sensitive COVID rabbit ears than I do. I saw no trolling whatsoever in his post. That, and I had no clue what Snap Map is. I have Snapchat installed but haven't used it other than to fool around with some of the frames/filters -- and most of those are now available on Facebook Messenger, so i don't know why I keep Snapchat.
Understood, but do you see what I mean?
Notice that Timmy has not come back with any clarification as to what Snap Map is, or any sorta link to it.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on December 05, 2020, 12:13:27 AM
Notice that Timmy has not come back with any clarification as to what Snap Map is, or any sorta link to it.
I mean it's just the map feature on Snapchat. There is no link.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on December 05, 2020, 12:13:27 AM
Notice that Timmy has not come back with any clarification as to what Snap Map is, or any sorta link to it.
But the Snap Map was still the point of the post, right? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Quote from: thspfc on December 05, 2020, 12:34:55 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on December 05, 2020, 12:13:27 AM
Notice that Timmy has not come back with any clarification as to what Snap Map is, or any sorta link to it.
But the Snap Map was still the point of the post, right? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
The point of Timmy's post (that started this thread) was either, he likes snap map, or there are alot of parties linked to snap map.
Quote from: cabiness42 on December 04, 2020, 11:31:05 AM
Quote from: thspfc on December 04, 2020, 08:33:29 AM
I don't care if college students want to have parties. They can make their own desicisions without local politicians and governors breathing down their necks.
They're continuing to have parties, which clearly demonstrates that they can't make good decisions even with politicians breathing down their necks.
Hospitals are near capacity--again. Maybe this seems trivial to you because none of the patients or hospital employees are people you know. Just hope you don't experience any kind of trauma, like a bad car accident, while the hospitals are this full. When you get to the ER, the respiratory therapist who you need to intubate you and is usually stationed in the ER waiting for trauma patients to come in is up in the ICU, because the RTs up there can't keep up. As a result, it takes him/her 3 minutes to get to you instead of 30 seconds, and that might make the difference as to whether or not you survive. Or maybe the ER nurse that was supposed to help save you quit because he/she had seen too many people die and couldn't take it anymore, and the replacement is someone who has never worked trauma before but that's all the hospital could hire right now.
COVID is a very extreme example of Americans being so bedazzled by the concept of freedom that they just can't avoid doing something that has negative consequences if those consequences aren't immediate. It's the same mindset that leads to smoking, drugs and obesity. Those things won't kill us next week, but when we're on our death beds at age 45 we get upset at everybody but ourselves.
I don't give a fuck if I've hurt anybody's feelings and/or get this thread locked. I'm tired of my wife coming home every morning either crying uncontrollably or screaming at me for no reason because it's her only outlet for the horror she's experiencing at work, because people are too selfish to do what medical experts are suggesting.
I still don't get why harassing the OP over looking at it is justified because of this. You're literally acting like bandit is out partying. So stupid...
My wife works in health care. Never once gone on here politicizing her work efforts.
Quote from: SectorZ on December 07, 2020, 07:12:31 AM
Quote from: cabiness42 on December 04, 2020, 11:31:05 AM
Quote from: thspfc on December 04, 2020, 08:33:29 AM
I don't care if college students want to have parties. They can make their own desicisions without local politicians and governors breathing down their necks.
They're continuing to have parties, which clearly demonstrates that they can't make good decisions even with politicians breathing down their necks.
Hospitals are near capacity--again. Maybe this seems trivial to you because none of the patients or hospital employees are people you know. Just hope you don't experience any kind of trauma, like a bad car accident, while the hospitals are this full. When you get to the ER, the respiratory therapist who you need to intubate you and is usually stationed in the ER waiting for trauma patients to come in is up in the ICU, because the RTs up there can't keep up. As a result, it takes him/her 3 minutes to get to you instead of 30 seconds, and that might make the difference as to whether or not you survive. Or maybe the ER nurse that was supposed to help save you quit because he/she had seen too many people die and couldn't take it anymore, and the replacement is someone who has never worked trauma before but that's all the hospital could hire right now.
COVID is a very extreme example of Americans being so bedazzled by the concept of freedom that they just can't avoid doing something that has negative consequences if those consequences aren't immediate. It's the same mindset that leads to smoking, drugs and obesity. Those things won't kill us next week, but when we're on our death beds at age 45 we get upset at everybody but ourselves.
I don't give a fuck if I've hurt anybody's feelings and/or get this thread locked. I'm tired of my wife coming home every morning either crying uncontrollably or screaming at me for no reason because it's her only outlet for the horror she's experiencing at work, because people are too selfish to do what medical experts are suggesting.
I still don't get why harassing the OP over looking at it is justified because of this. You're literally acting like bandit is out partying. So stupid...
My wife works in health care. Never once gone on here politicizing her work efforts.
My response wasn't to the OP, it was to the person who stated that college students going to parties isn't a big deal. Two of my wife's co-workers have tested positive. One has diabetes, which means he'll probably get pretty sick.
Wow, I spent a few days away from the forum, and somehow this thread avoided being locked? Cool! Anyway...
Quote from: cabiness42 on December 07, 2020, 08:48:26 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on December 07, 2020, 07:12:31 AM
Quote from: cabiness42 on December 04, 2020, 11:31:05 AM
Quote from: thspfc on December 04, 2020, 08:33:29 AM
I don't care if college students want to have parties. They can make their own desicisions without local politicians and governors breathing down their necks.
They're continuing to have parties, which clearly demonstrates that they can't make good decisions even with politicians breathing down their necks.
Hospitals are near capacity--again. Maybe this seems trivial to you because none of the patients or hospital employees are people you know. Just hope you don't experience any kind of trauma, like a bad car accident, while the hospitals are this full. When you get to the ER, the respiratory therapist who you need to intubate you and is usually stationed in the ER waiting for trauma patients to come in is up in the ICU, because the RTs up there can't keep up. As a result, it takes him/her 3 minutes to get to you instead of 30 seconds, and that might make the difference as to whether or not you survive. Or maybe the ER nurse that was supposed to help save you quit because he/she had seen too many people die and couldn't take it anymore, and the replacement is someone who has never worked trauma before but that's all the hospital could hire right now.
COVID is a very extreme example of Americans being so bedazzled by the concept of freedom that they just can't avoid doing something that has negative consequences if those consequences aren't immediate. It's the same mindset that leads to smoking, drugs and obesity. Those things won't kill us next week, but when we're on our death beds at age 45 we get upset at everybody but ourselves.
I don't give a fuck if I've hurt anybody's feelings and/or get this thread locked. I'm tired of my wife coming home every morning either crying uncontrollably or screaming at me for no reason because it's her only outlet for the horror she's experiencing at work, because people are too selfish to do what medical experts are suggesting.
I still don't get why harassing the OP over looking at it is justified because of this. You're literally acting like bandit is out partying. So stupid...
My wife works in health care. Never once gone on here politicizing her work efforts.
My response wasn't to the OP, it was to the person who stated that college students going to parties isn't a big deal. Two of my wife's co-workers have tested positive. One has diabetes, which means he'll probably get pretty sick.
"They can make their own decisions without local politicians and governors breathing down their necks"
does not equal "Going to parties isn't a big deal".
It is perfectly possible to think someone is making poor choices and yet still advocate for their freedom to make those choices.
Quote from: US 89 on December 05, 2020, 01:33:21 AM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on December 05, 2020, 12:13:27 AM
Notice that Timmy has not come back with any clarification as to what Snap Map is, or any sorta link to it.
I mean it's just the map feature on Snapchat. There is no link.
Oh, OK, so it's just a feature inside Snapchat, then?
Quote from: kphoger on December 09, 2020, 01:12:13 PM
It is perfectly possible to think someone is making poor choices and yet still advocate for their freedom to make those choices.
Let's not hide behind the phrase, "making poor choices." Making poor choices is doing jagerbombs after drinking a bunch of beer or signing up for a 7:30 am lecture course. What they are doing is causing people to die, and causing serious mental health issues for the people caring for those that are dying, so if you want to advocate for people's freedom to cause death and destruction then have the guts to call it that.
Quote from: cabiness42 on December 09, 2020, 01:22:32 PM
Let's not hide behind the phrase, "making poor choices." Making poor choices is doing jagerbombs after drinking a bunch of beer or signing up for a 7:30 am lecture course. What they are doing is causing people to die, and causing serious mental health issues for the people caring for those that are dying, so if you want to advocate for people's freedom to cause death and destruction then have the guts to call it that.
Let's not hide behind "what if".
If everyone at a party is healthy, then they are most certainly not doing any of the things you just accused them of.
Example: The church Sunday school department I'm a member of–which, other than me, consists entirely of elderly people because my own age group shifted to in-home small groups a couple of years ago and everyone else my age is either occupied elsewhere or just takes a break during Sunday school hour–is having their usual Christmas luncheon at a member's house this week-end. It's a really big house but, still, there are more than 20 people signed up to attend.
Even if nobody in attendance is sick, you've still just accused each one of them of "causing people to die" and "causing serious mental health issues"–all for having lunch with their life-long church friends. And if my wife and I were to attend and post about it on Snapchat, then we would be right there in the same category as the Jagerbomb-downing college students as far as anything objective is concerned.
(And don't imagine that these people are somehow isolated from the risks of COVID. As I mentioned, all of them are elderly. Some of them have worked or still work in healthcare. Some of them have underlying health conditions. At least two of them are currently in self-quarantine for recently having been close contacts, and at least one of them has personally had COVID already. Other facility-bound members have suffered serious health complications from COVID, with one member recently topping 50 days in the hospital. They are not ignorant about the virus. Rather, they are aware of its risks and still decide to gather. And, although my wife and I have personally chosen not to attend out of caution, I do champion their right to do so.)
Quote from: kphoger on December 09, 2020, 03:20:23 PM
If everyone at a party is healthy, then they are most certainly not doing any of the things you just accused them of.
There is no way to know if you're healthy or not (unless you've already recovered). It often takes a few days for symptoms to develop.
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Quote from: kphoger on December 09, 2020, 03:20:23 PM
If everyone at a party is healthy, then they are most certainly not doing any of the things you just accused them of.
There is no way to know if you're healthy or not (unless you've already recovered). It often takes a few days for symptoms to develop.
I know that. Duh. Doesn't change the fact that, if everyone was healthy,
then nobody died because of it.
Quote from: kphoger on December 09, 2020, 03:20:23 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on December 09, 2020, 01:22:32 PM
Let's not hide behind the phrase, "making poor choices." Making poor choices is doing jagerbombs after drinking a bunch of beer or signing up for a 7:30 am lecture course. What they are doing is causing people to die, and causing serious mental health issues for the people caring for those that are dying, so if you want to advocate for people's freedom to cause death and destruction then have the guts to call it that.
Let's not hide behind "what if".
If everyone at a party is healthy, then they are most certainly not doing any of the things you just accused them of.
Unless everyone at a party has not been in contact with anybody outside their household in the past 14 days, they can't be certain they're healthy. How hard is that to understand?
Quote from: cabiness42 on December 09, 2020, 03:29:46 PM
Unless everyone at a party has not been in contact with anybody outside their household in the past 14 days, they can't be certain they're healthy. How hard is that to understand?
I know that. It isn't hard to understand.
But you just accused them of killing people without even knowing if a single one of them is sick at all.
Quote from: kphoger on December 09, 2020, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on December 09, 2020, 03:29:46 PM
Unless everyone at a party has not been in contact with anybody outside their household in the past 14 days, they can't be certain they're healthy. How hard is that to understand?
I know that. It isn't hard to understand.
But you just accused them of killing people without even knowing if a single one of them is sick at all.
If the gathering is large enough, there is a really, really high probability that one or more people is sick, so you don't really have to know for sure that any specific person is sick for there to be the reality that you are facilitating death by attending.
I'm done. I'm done getting mad at the crackpot morality going around this year. I'm done getting mad at people who wrongly accuse others of murder. I'm done caring what you think of me. I'm done trying to advocate that people who disagree can still get along. I'm done with the vain hope that this thread can ever just be about Snap Map. I'm just done.
Someone, please lock this thread.
Quote from: kphoger on December 09, 2020, 03:48:50 PM
I'm done. I'm done getting mad at the crackpot morality going around this year. I'm done getting mad at people who wrongly accuse others of murder. I'm done caring what you think of me. I'm done trying to advocate that people who disagree can still get along. I'm done with the vain hope that this thread can ever just be about Snap Map. I'm just done.
Someone, please lock this thread.
A flounce for the ages.
Quote from: kphoger on December 09, 2020, 03:48:50 PM
I'm done. I'm done getting mad at the crackpot morality going around this year. I'm done getting mad at people who wrongly accuse others of murder. I'm done caring what you think of me. I'm done trying to advocate that people who disagree can still get along. I'm done with the vain hope that this thread can ever just be about Snap Map. I'm just done.
Someone, please lock this thread.
Hit the nail on the head. I'm sorry for starting this mess, I figured that asking someone to stop trolling wouldn't spiral into this.
Quote from: Rothman on December 09, 2020, 04:10:37 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 09, 2020, 03:48:50 PM
I'm done. I'm done getting mad at the crackpot morality going around this year. I'm done getting mad at people who wrongly accuse others of murder. I'm done caring what you think of me. I'm done trying to advocate that people who disagree can still get along. I'm done with the vain hope that this thread can ever just be about Snap Map. I'm just done.
Someone, please lock this thread.
A flounce for the ages.
You know I could point out how hilariously hypocritical this response by Rothman is, but who cares.
Before this gets locked, check out North Korea on Snapmap occasionally. You get some good ones on occasion
Geez, these people are huge! Why do they need an app if they're that tall?
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Quote from: formulanone on December 10, 2020, 09:35:27 AM
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No way there's a guy wearing a rasta hat in northern Oklahoma. [/dubious]
Quote from: thspfc on December 09, 2020, 04:33:18 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 09, 2020, 03:48:50 PM
I'm done. I'm done getting mad at the crackpot morality going around this year. I'm done getting mad at people who wrongly accuse others of murder. I'm done caring what you think of me. I'm done trying to advocate that people who disagree can still get along. I'm done with the vain hope that this thread can ever just be about Snap Map. I'm just done.
Someone, please lock this thread.
Hit the nail on the head. I'm sorry for starting this mess, I figured that asking someone to stop trolling wouldn't spiral into this.
If the person was trolling...then asking them to stop trolling is pointless...because...they want to troll.
If the person wasn't trolling...then asking them to stop trolling is pointless...because...they weren't trolling.
All you did by calling it out was to incite the actual conversation...which either...
...was the point of the post...so you caved...
...or wasn't the point...to which you derailed it.
And so here we are...trolled or derailed.
Quote from: kphoger on December 10, 2020, 09:56:04 AM
Quote from: formulanone on December 10, 2020, 09:35:27 AM
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No way there's a guy wearing a rasta hat in northern Oklahoma. [/dubious]
That girl to his northwest. She looks like she's having a good time.
That poor girl in eastern Quebec all by herself...
Quote from: SectorZ on December 10, 2020, 05:17:12 PM
That poor girl in eastern Quebec all by herself...
And here I figured she was quite pleased to be over there by herself. She's looking at the crowd and thinking, "heh, look at all those fools".
Quote from: kphoger on December 10, 2020, 09:56:04 AM
No way there's a guy wearing a rasta hat in northern Oklahoma. [/dubious]
Oklahoma has the largest marijuana industry by capita of any state, so it's
possible...
Got someone with mind control powers in the central Plains :-D :-D
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 10, 2020, 09:47:51 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 10, 2020, 09:56:04 AM
No way there's a guy wearing a rasta hat in northern Oklahoma. [/dubious]
Oklahoma has the largest marijuana industry by capita of any state, so it's possible...
OK, but is that guy allowed to walk around in public there? [/nope]
Quote from: kphoger on December 11, 2020, 12:57:24 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 10, 2020, 09:47:51 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 10, 2020, 09:56:04 AM
No way there's a guy wearing a rasta hat in northern Oklahoma. [/dubious]
Oklahoma has the largest marijuana industry by capita of any state, so it's possible...
OK, but is that guy allowed to walk around in public there? [/nope]
If Joe Exotic and The Flaming Lips are allowed in Oklahoma, then yes.
Quote from: formulanone on December 11, 2020, 04:00:10 PM
If Joe Exotic and The Flaming Lips are allowed in Oklahoma, then yes.
I thought they were limited to Norman, OKC, Tulsa, and the highway in between.
Joe Exotic is from Wynnewood, which is in Garvin County (probably about midway between OKC and the Texas line on I-35).
Quote from: formulanone on December 10, 2020, 09:35:27 AM
Geez, these people are huge! Why do they need an app if they're that tall?
(https://fossbytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Snapmap.jpg)
This guy has lots of friends in lots of different metro areas! :D
I use Snapchat, and don't check out the map too much. All my friends are in Missouri, save (checks) one guy in Charlotte, three girls on vacation in Florida, and a friend of mine in Aspen.