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Title: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on December 31, 2020, 08:30:02 PM
I didn't find this in another thread [or wasn't looking hard enough?]

are that any examples of this on a U.S. or interstate highway?

best I can come you with is I-684 starting in ny, goes into ct briefly, then back into ny
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: hotdogPi on December 31, 2020, 08:31:55 PM
US 2 in Michigan and Wisconsin
US 50 in Maryland and West Virginia
US 52/119 in West Virginia and Kentucky
US 54 in Texas
US 62 in Texas
US 71 in Arkansas
US 72 in Tennessee (same state twice, but not same state line twice)
US 141 in Michigan and Wisconsin
US 180 in New Mexico and Texas
US 212 in Montana and Wyoming
US 340 in Virginia
US 395 in California
US 460 in Virginia

This list should be complete for US routes.
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: Road Hog on December 31, 2020, 08:42:33 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 31, 2020, 08:31:55 PM
US 2 in Michigan and Wisconsin
US 50 in Maryland and West Virginia
US 52/119 in West Virginia and Kentucky
US 54 in Texas
US 62 in Texas
US 71 in Arkansas
US 72 in Tennessee
US 141 in Michigan and Wisconsin
US 180 in New Mexico and Texas
US 212 in Montana and Wyoming
US 340 in Virginia
US 395 in California
US 460 in Virginia

This list should be complete for US routes.
If you count US 71 in Arkansas, US 59 counts too.
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: SkyPesos on December 31, 2020, 08:55:55 PM
I-435: KS-MO
I-495: If you ignore the 300 feet of DC, VA-MD

I thought there would be more beltways, but this is all I can think of. I-275 crosses 3 state lines, I-485 barely misses the SC state line, I-270 isn't a single route with I-255, I-265 lacks a southern IN-KY crossing.

For 2di, the Eastern I-86 crosses PA-NY 3 times
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: ilpt4u on December 31, 2020, 09:44:05 PM
Is I-24 breaking the rules, here? Although with its quick dip into Georgia, I guess it only crosses the TN state line 3 times, since the southeast termination of the route is in Chattanooga
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: CoreySamson on December 31, 2020, 10:37:07 PM
I-49 will in the future in the vicinity of Texarkana.
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: dlsterner on December 31, 2020, 11:10:24 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on December 31, 2020, 08:30:02 PM
I didn't find this in another thread [or wasn't looking hard enough?]

are that any examples of this on a U.S. or interstate highway?

best I can come you with is I-684 starting in ny, goes into ct briefly, then back into ny

I realize that the OP asked for US or Interstate highways, but if you are willing to relax that restriction:

Clingman's Dome Road (Great Smoky Mountains National Park) crosses the North Carolina / Tennessee border five times.  I don't think any of them are signed.
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: The Nature Boy on January 02, 2021, 01:09:20 PM
If we're relaxing the US/Interstate Highway rule then this gets more interesting:

The GW Parkway in Virginia crosses into DC at Gravelly Point and then back into Virginia just past the Arlington Memorial Bridge. None of this is signed and I'm sure that most locals would tell you that the GW Parkway is entirely in Virginia.
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: fillup420 on January 02, 2021, 03:32:17 PM
going with the relaxed rules....

NC 106/GA 246 crosses the NC/GA line 5 times at the border
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on January 02, 2021, 04:29:24 PM
In southeast Minnesota/northeast Iowa, Houston County 2/Allamakee County A11 crosses the border three times.
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: pianocello on January 02, 2021, 04:36:22 PM
The Alaska Highway crosses the Yukon/BC border 9 times.
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: jp the roadgeek on January 02, 2021, 04:44:49 PM
RI 114A crosses into MA then back into RI
NH 125 crosses into ME for a stretch, then crosses back into NH before ending about a mile later.

ME 113 crosses the NH border, then comes back to straddle the border, bends back into NH, then finally crosses back into ME.  A child route, ME 113B, also loops into NH
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: hotdogPi on January 02, 2021, 04:59:10 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on January 02, 2021, 04:44:49 PM
NH 125 crosses into ME for a stretch, then crosses back into NH before ending about a mile later.

153, not 125
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: kurumi on January 02, 2021, 05:09:18 PM
Old CT 124 in North Canaan, from west to east: CT / MA / CT / MA. It was never signed (as anything) in MA to my knowledge. When CT 124 was retired in 1963, two separate unsigned routes replaced it (to avoid the confusion of having a discontinuous unsigned route :-)

Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: hotdogPi on January 02, 2021, 05:25:09 PM
Quote from: kurumi on January 02, 2021, 05:09:18 PM
It was never signed (as anything) in MA to my knowledge.

If Mapquest (previously) and Apple Maps (currently) both think it's MA 73, they must both be getting it from the same source somewhere...
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: US 89 on January 02, 2021, 06:49:05 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 31, 2020, 08:31:55 PM
This list should be complete for US routes.

You didn't mention US 191, which crosses the Montana-Wyoming border twice.
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: hotdogPi on January 02, 2021, 06:53:24 PM
Quote from: US 89 on January 02, 2021, 06:49:05 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 31, 2020, 08:31:55 PM
This list should be complete for US routes.

You didn't mention US 191, which crosses the Montana-Wyoming border twice.

Sorry. The list I was looking at did list US 191 in the same state twice, but I ignored it because I thought it was referring to being split into two segments by Yellowstone.
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on January 02, 2021, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 31, 2020, 08:31:55 PM
US 2 in Michigan and Wisconsin
US 50 in Maryland and West Virginia
US 52/119 in West Virginia and Kentucky
US 54 in Texas
US 62 in Texas
US 71 in Arkansas
US 72 in Tennessee (same state twice, but not same state line twice)
US 141 in Michigan and Wisconsin
US 180 in New Mexico and Texas
US 212 in Montana and Wyoming
US 340 in Virginia
US 395 in California
US 460 in Virginia

This list should be complete for US routes.

Should also be noted one of the US 2/141 border crossings is a concurrency.
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: michravera on January 02, 2021, 08:36:55 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on December 31, 2020, 08:30:02 PM
I didn't find this in another thread [or wasn't looking hard enough?]

are that any examples of this on a U.S. or interstate highway?

best I can come you with is I-684 starting in ny, goes into ct briefly, then back into ny

As written, most 2dis would qualify. I-5, for instance, crosses into and out of Oregon. I-95, I-10, I-40, I-80, cross into and out of most states that they cross.

Now, if we are looking for highways that cross a border between the SAME TWO states more than once, that's a different matter. TheHighwayMan gave a pretty good starter list.
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: jp the roadgeek on January 02, 2021, 10:44:56 PM
Quote from: kurumi on January 02, 2021, 05:09:18 PM
Old CT 124 in North Canaan, from west to east: CT / MA / CT / MA. It was never signed (as anything) in MA to my knowledge. When CT 124 was retired in 1963, two separate unsigned routes replaced it (to avoid the confusion of having a discontinuous unsigned route :-)

And then, ironically enough, the number was repurposed to reciprocate with NYSDOT for NY 124; only to have NY retire the piece of its route south of Pound Ridge.  Now you do have a discontinuous route that is unsigned once you cross the NY border (and is no longer concurrently signed with NY 137).

Oh, and add NY 120A to the list.  Crosses and straddles the NY/CT border multiple times.  And how can we forget the eastern I-86 with the Waverly Dip for a 2nd and 3rd crossing of the PA/NY border?
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: cpzilliacus on January 08, 2021, 07:07:09 PM
U.S. 119 (ADHS Corridor G) jumps back and forth between Mingo County, West Virginia and Pike County, Kentucky over the Tug Fork several times (five times total (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/37.7135611,-82.3079424/37.6733792,-82.2815863/@37.6865654,-82.3313397,13z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0?hl=en), I believe).
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: Bickendan on January 10, 2021, 06:16:40 AM
Quote from: pianocello on January 02, 2021, 04:36:22 PM
The Alaska Highway crosses the Yukon/BC border 9 times.
Related: NT 5 dips into Alberta a couple times.
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: sbeaver44 on January 10, 2021, 10:19:10 PM
For purposes of this question, how are we treating MD/DE 54?
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: CtrlAltDel on January 11, 2021, 01:27:42 AM
Quote from: sbeaver44 on January 10, 2021, 10:19:10 PM
For purposes of this question, how are we treating MD/DE 54?

I would treat it the same way as US-54.
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: frankenroad on January 12, 2021, 11:17:44 AM
I-86 crosses the PA/NY border three times, but I believe the eastern two crossings, where 86 dips briefly into PA, are not signed.  They weren't signed the last time I went through there, but that was nearly 20 years ago.
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: briantroutman on January 12, 2021, 12:04:46 PM
Quote from: frankenroad on January 12, 2021, 11:17:44 AM
I-86 crosses the PA/NY border three times, but I believe the eastern two crossings, where 86 dips briefly into PA, are not signed.  They weren't signed the last time I went through there, but that was nearly 20 years ago.

There aren't giant "Welcome to Pennsylvania"  signs, but there are small signs identifying the location of the state border (EB (https://goo.gl/maps/Eu1hLUAZ79VmpBQ3A), WB (https://goo.gl/maps/beP3a1Jx87Np9FcQ7))–they're more technical location references than the typical tourist-oriented billboards posted at state lines. And logically so: the short Eastern dip into Pennsylvania was merely an expedient routing around Waverly, and the tiny I-86 fragment in Pennsylvania (South Waverly) remains NYSDOT designed and maintained.
Title: Re: roads that cross the same state line multiple times
Post by: frankenroad on January 13, 2021, 03:49:03 PM
Quote from: briantroutman on January 12, 2021, 12:04:46 PM
Quote from: frankenroad on January 12, 2021, 11:17:44 AM
I-86 crosses the PA/NY border three times, but I believe the eastern two crossings, where 86 dips briefly into PA, are not signed.  They weren't signed the last time I went through there, but that was nearly 20 years ago.

There aren't giant "Welcome to Pennsylvania"  signs, but there are small signs identifying the location of the state border (EB (https://goo.gl/maps/Eu1hLUAZ79VmpBQ3A), WB (https://goo.gl/maps/beP3a1Jx87Np9FcQ7))–they're more technical location references than the typical tourist-oriented billboards posted at state lines. And logically so: the short Eastern dip into Pennsylvania was merely an expedient routing around Waverly, and the tiny I-86 fragment in Pennsylvania (South Waverly) remains NYSDOT designed and maintained.

I don't think those were there the last time I passed through.