We all know Kansas City, Kansas and Missouri and Texarkana, Arkansas and Texas, but what about other instances where an adjacent jurisdiction names a town similar to the town on the other side of the border? I say it like that because it could be state level or international.
I say Laredo, Texas and Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas.
Just curious how many instances you can come up with.
Bristol, TN/VA
Sault Ste. Marie, MI/ON
Niagara Falls, NY/ON
Bluefield, WV/VA
St. Louis and East St. Louis
Quote from: GaryV on February 01, 2021, 12:45:14 PM
St. Louis and East St. Louis
That was actually the group that made me think of this. It may not have the exact same name, but IL acknowledges the MO city.
Quote from: 1 on February 01, 2021, 12:44:04 PM
Niagara Falls, NY/ON
We could devote an entire thread to whether or not those two cities are, in fact, similar. The name is about the extent of it.
Blue Eye, MO/AR
Chicago IL, and East Chicago IN (which actually isn't right up to the border).
Harrison, OH / West Harrison, IN
College Corner, OH / West College Corner, IN
Union City, OH/IN
In two of those three cases, the telephone company switching station for both towns are co-located, even though they serve different prefixes in different area codes.
Grand Forks,ND/East Grand Forks, MN
In before Lloydminster.
(I know it's actually one city in two provinces)
Some international ones:
Gorizia, Italy/Nova Gorica, Slovenia
Valga, Estonia/Valka, Latvia
Karesuando, Sweden/Karesuvanto, Finland
Augusta GA and N Augusta SC
Waverly NY and S Waverly PA
Flin Flon MB/SK
Quote from: CapeCodder on February 01, 2021, 02:37:49 PM
Flin Flon MB/SK
Like Lloydminster SK/AB, one city government in both provinces. Most of Flin Flon's population is in Manitoba, so not that similar.
They technically also have time zone differences. Flin Flon MB is on Central Time with DST, Flin Flon SK and Lloydminster SK are on Central Time with no DST, and Lloydminster AB is on Mountain Time with DST. As a practical matter, both Flin Flons operate on Manitoba time, and both Lloydminsters are on Alberta time.
Quote from: GaryV on February 01, 2021, 12:45:14 PM
St. Louis and East St. Louis
Chicago, IL and East Chicago, IN [close but not adjacent] and New Chicago, IN [not adjacent to either]
Harrison, OH and West Harrison, IN
Union City OH and IN
Michiana Shores, IN and Michiana, MI
Williamson, WV, and South Williamson, KY.
Fulton, KY, and South Fulton, TN.
New York, NY and West New York, NJ
Washington Crossing PA/NJ
Beebe, QC/Beebe Plain, VT
Quote from: oscar on February 01, 2021, 02:42:38 PM
They technically also have time zone differences. Flin Flon MB is on Central Time with DST, Flin Flon SK and Lloydminster SK are on Central Time with no DST, and Lloydminster AB is on Mountain Time with DST. As a practical matter, both Flin Flons operate on Manitoba time, and both Lloydminsters are on Alberta time.
The same is true with Karesuando, Sweden (Central Europe Time) and Karesuvanto, Finland (Eastern Europe Time, in both cases with DST, although useless since they are North of the Arctic Circle). IDK how they do in practice.
Dubuque IA and East Dubuque IL
Beloit WI and South Beloit IL
Nogales, Arizona and Sonora
Progreso, Texas and Nuevo Progreso, Tamaulipas.
Anthony, Texas and New Mexico
My favorite might be Caliexico, California and Mexicali, Baja California. They are basically opposites.
Paynesville, WV and VA.
Instead of a similar name, how about a similar type of city?
Pullman, WA and Moscow, ID are both college towns surrounded by a whole lot of nothing.
Delmar, MD and DE
Memphis, TN and West Memphis, AR.
Would Mexicali and Calexico count?
Quote from: STLmapboy on February 01, 2021, 10:06:09 PM
Would Mexicali and Calexico count?
Mentioned several replies above yours.
I don't think Tecate CA and Tecate, Baja California has been mentioned yet. Perhaps because the one in Mexico has about 300 times the population of the one in California.
Surprised no mention of El Paso TX and its Mexican counterpart Ciudad Juarez, both huge cities.
Also, San Luis AZ and its larger Mexican counterpart San Luis Rio Colorado.
Portal, ND, and North Portal, SK.
https://www.google.com/maps/@48.9966713,-102.6024245,12.46z
Quote from: webny99 on February 01, 2021, 12:53:17 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 01, 2021, 12:44:04 PM
Niagara Falls, NY/ON
We could devote an entire thread to whether or not those two cities are, in fact, similar. The name is about the extent of it.
Quote from: oscar on February 01, 2021, 10:13:01 PM
Surprised no mention of El Paso TX and its Mexican counterpart Ciudad Juarez, both huge cities.
The OP specifies similarity in the
names of the cities:
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on February 01, 2021, 12:42:54 PM
what about other instances where an adjacent jurisdiction names a town similar to the town on the other side of the border?
Until 1888 before the city was renamed in honor of Benito Juarez, Ciudad Juarez was named El Paso del Norte.
Along I-80...Wendover, UT and West Wendover, NV?
In addition to Nogales, there is also a Naco in both Arizona and Sonora.
The Naco in Arizona is unincorporated, but it does have a post office and zip code.
Sioux City, IA and South Sioux City, NE.
Chris
Derby Line, VT and Stanstead, QC
And then you have the Akwesane Reservation/Reserves at the NY/ON/QC tripoint.
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 01, 2021, 10:29:48 PM
The OP specifies similarity in the names of the cities:
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on February 01, 2021, 12:42:54 PM
what about other instances where an adjacent jurisdiction names a town similar to the town on the other side of the border?
Well, just because the adjacent jurisdiction names the town, doesn't mean they have to name it with the
same name, right? :-P
Quote from: jayhawkco on February 02, 2021, 05:42:39 PM
Sioux City, IA and South Sioux City, NE.
Chris
Don't forget North Sioux City, SD.
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on February 02, 2021, 07:03:36 PM
Derby Line, VT and Stanstead, QC
And then you have the Akwesane Reservation/Reserves at the NY/ON/QC tripoint.
Akwesasne is even more unusual as the Quebec portion of the reservation is connected directly to New York State with no direct connection to the rest of Canada.
Quote from: webny99 on February 02, 2021, 07:29:14 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 01, 2021, 10:29:48 PM
The OP specifies similarity in the names of the cities:
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on February 01, 2021, 12:42:54 PM
what about other instances where an adjacent jurisdiction names a town similar to the town on the other side of the border?
Well, just because the adjacent jurisdiction names the town, doesn't mean they have to name it with the same name, right? :-P
Grammatically speaking, that would be the correct interpretation. See below.
what about other instances where an adjacent jurisdiction names
a town similar to the town on the other side of the border?
In order to convey that the names must be similar to qualify for the thread, the question should have been written as follows:
what about other instances where an adjacent jurisdiction
names a town similar
LY to the town on the other side of the border?
Or, in other words...
The word
names is a verb, therefore the manner in which the town is being named should be conveyed by the use of an adverb. This was not done. Instead, the word
similar is an adjective, therefore it must describe the noun
town, meaning that it is the towns that are similar, not the naming conventions pertaining thereto.
Quote from: kphoger on February 03, 2021, 12:11:51 PM
Quote from: webny99 on February 02, 2021, 07:29:14 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 01, 2021, 10:29:48 PM
The OP specifies similarity in the names of the cities:
...
Well, just because the adjacent jurisdiction names the town, doesn't mean they have to name it with the same name, right? :-P
Grammatically speaking, that would be the correct interpretation. See below.
...
And practically speaking, that would be the correct (albeit rather long-winded) explanation of my attempted joke.
I know. I just thought there were probably some who didn't quite get it. Just wanted to be clear.
Quote from: kphoger on February 03, 2021, 01:27:34 PM
I know. I just thought there were probably some who didn't quite get it. Just wanted to be clear.
Understood. I tend to forget that, especially when it comes to semantics, I'm a bit more intuitive than the average audience member, so sometimes my attempts at humor are layered or complicated in ways that can unintentionally go over people's heads.
Quote from: webny99 on February 02, 2021, 07:29:14 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 01, 2021, 10:29:48 PM
The OP specifies similarity in the names of the cities:
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on February 01, 2021, 12:42:54 PM
what about other instances where an adjacent jurisdiction names a town similar to the town on the other side of the border?
Well, just because the adjacent jurisdiction names the town, doesn't mean they have to name it with the same name, right? :-P
In seriousness, part of this exercise was a fascination of mine about what city came first. Sometime it's self explanatory. Nuevo Laredo is obviously New Laredo so it was named after Laredo. Sometimes it's not as cut and dry.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on February 01, 2021, 04:07:47 PM
Beebe, QC/Beebe Plain, VT
Used to be, Beebe, QC was amalgated with Rock Island and the village of Stanstead aka in some road maps as Stanstead-Plain into the town of Stanstead in the late 1990s.
this feels close..
julesburg, co and north julesburg, ne. i don't think north julesburg is on any map, and julesburg itself is more or less a wide spot on us 385... but the phone book lists calls between these two points as local, even though they're in different states.
What about Texas County, Oklahoma? It borders Texas.
Lewiston ID and Clarkston WA are a pair.
Rick
La Amistad, Mexico and Amistad Village
Washington Crossing NJ and Washington Crossing, PA.