What FORMER routes have you clinched?
Can be either highways that existed when you clinched them....
...Or it was the former route alignment that still exists, but the route number doesn't.
The route number must not be in existence today, nor can it be an upgraded/downgraded route (i.e. US-21 to SR-21).
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Utah 184 was one of my first route clinches. It's been gone since 2007, absorbed into the modern Utah 186.
My all time favorite was exploring the entirety of what remains of FL 4A in the Lower Keys. A lot of it had to be done on foot given the roads are often abandoned or washed out by the ocean. 4A was the 1928 Overseas Highway for those who don't know.
I clinched OK-74A back when it was still around. This is the only route I've clinched that has been decommissioned later, as far as I know.
I've also clinched what I believe was OK-107 (still a state highway, carried on the books as OK-0) as well as K-132.
WI 74,123,150
CA 209 and CA 274, at least.
MN 66, 110 (unclear if this counts since it's still a state highway), 253, 254, 324, 361
Highways that existed when I clinched them: IN 112, IN 126, IN 219, IN 238, IN 311, IN 334, IN 403, IN 431, IN 435, IN 443, IN 526, M-205
Clinched a former routing after de-commissioning: IN 73, IN 100, IN 107, IN 123, IN 131, IN 141, IN 319, IN 434
California:
1956-1964 I-5W (now I-580) through Oakland - only the extent that was signed as I-5W.
Does I-380 count as it was originally planned as a Route 186? Not sure 186 was ever signed though.
1964-1965 Route 117 (Junipero Serra Boulevard between South San Francisco and Colma)
1964-1984 Route 176 (Santa Maria to Sisquoc)
1964-1996 Route 224 (Carpinteria, including part of old US 101)
1965-1994 Route 256 (former US 99E in Roseville; though the bypass planned is not exactly the same as the old US highway surface route)
Route 275 is a weird one, essentially it was at one point fully decommissioned but now covers the Tower Bridge portion only as an active state route.
Elsewhere:
former Highway 54 in Quezon City/Mandaluyong/Makati (EDSA)
former Bypass US 60 in Louisville, Kentucky (now I-264)
former I-265 in Nashville (now I-65)
Quote from: TheStranger on February 01, 2021, 09:20:26 PM
California:
1956-1964 I-5W (now I-580) through Oakland - only the extent that was signed as I-5W.
Does I-380 count as it was originally planned as a Route 186? Not sure 186 was ever signed though.
1964-1965 Route 117 (Junipero Serra Boulevard between South San Francisco and Colma)
1964-1984 Route 176 (Santa Maria to Sisquoc)
1964-1996 Route 224 (Carpinteria, including part of old US 101)
1965-1994 Route 256 (former US 99E in Roseville; though the bypass planned is not exactly the same as the old US highway surface route)
Route 275 is a weird one, essentially it was at one point fully decommissioned but now covers the Tower Bridge portion only as an active state route.
Elsewhere:
former Highway 54 in Quezon City/Mandaluyong/Makati (EDSA)
former Bypass US 60 in Louisville, Kentucky (now I-264)
former I-265 in Nashville (now I-65)
Regarding California I was out trying to do a decommission clinch on CA 225 when I found out that it isn't actually fully dead yet. There is still an underpass that is part of Route 225 mileage and technically makes it the shortest State Highway. I did former 224 and 176 on that day trip.
US-110, US-118
You guys are doing this wrong. OP is actually asking us how many Delaware routes we've clinched. I have clinched none.
MD 46 - I have driven the entire length of MD 46 many times before it was decommissioned - that stretch of highway is now part of I-195. Interestingly, it is the only route 46 that I have ever been on. But I did drive it while it was numbered as 46, so to me, it counts in the "What is the lowest numbered route you haven't been on" thread (I'm up to 135).
This next one isn't a decommissioning per se, but a renumbering that cost me a far-away clinch.
On my 2017 Iceland vacation, I drove the entirety of Route 1 (the "Ring Road"), about 820-ish miles. A scant two weeks after my trip, the segment of Route 1 between Egilsstaðir and Breiðdalshreppur was re-routed down another path; the (mostly gravel) road I had traveled was renumbered to Route 95. Subsequent to that, another section of Route 1 east of Akureyri was re-routed due to completion of a vehicular tunnel. The road I traveled was renumbered to Routes 83 and 84.
Not a clinch, but I did use a portion of former I-164, which is now part of I-69.
VA 357 and 386 were decommissioned after I clinched them. Whatever the hell was done with VA 169 was also after I clinched it.
As far as "former routes where the road still exists" ...too many to list.
MN-312 🤣
Quote from: dlsterner on February 01, 2021, 11:39:10 PM
MD 46 - I have driven the entire length of MD 46 many times before it was decommissioned - that stretch of highway is now part of I-195. Interestingly, it is the only route 46 that I have ever been on. But I did drive it while it was numbered as 46, so to me, it counts in the "What is the lowest numbered route you haven't been on" thread (I'm up to 135).
This next one isn't a decommissioning per se, but a renumbering that cost me a far-away clinch.
I would still count it as a clinch since you traveled the whole thing as it existed at the time. I don't count changes to a route as needing a re-clinch unless they extend it along a road I haven't been on before. Partially exactly because of things like this (and also because I don't keep up with realignments in other states).
Alabama 200 and 275. I could also count 38, but it's re-used as a hidden number for US 280.
Georgia 381
Texas Spur Highway 537
A lot of Florida's decommissioned state roads just become county roads of the same number, so they won't count in this thread.
US-102 (although there are sections of the route that have been upgraded, so I didn't travel all its original routing)
M-107 and M-108, before and after decommissioning
Probably others that I can't recall offhand
Since most routes below national status in Spain have been renumbered at least once, I can easily say I have lots of them clinched. The most prominent decomissioned route I have clinched is the original N-123, which was already gone by the time I was born. And there are at least three provincial roads which I were on as a child before the region took over and renumbered them (I've since been on two of them again).
Random others from California...
I particularly enjoyed Old CA 188 headed towards Fallen Leaf Lake:
https://www.gribblenation.org/2018/10/lake-tahoe-circle-tour-part-1-ca-89.html?m=1
CA 69 essentially is just now CA 245 so there is another worthwhile curvy drive. I did the original CA 211 which is largely now CA 155. I have replicated US 48 as much as possibly can be done. I've replicated US 466 later alignment and as much as possible of the early one that had the dirt segment. US 399 consists of highways that are still in the State Route System with a minor jog in Taft.
The A344 in England. Not only was the road decommissioned, part of it has been removed. In the satellite view linked below, you can see where it ran–it split off the A303 east of Stonehenge and ran northwest to the roundabout outside the new Stonehenge car park. When I visited Stonehenge, the car park was roughly across the A344 from the rocks and visitors walked under the road via a pedestrian tunnel. The road was closed in 2013. Part of it remains to allow for shuttle bus operation from the new visitors' centre located further to the west near the roundabout at the A360 and the B3086, but the part from the old car park to the A303 has been removed and "grassed over."
The Street View car went through there before the road was closed to general traffic, but Google appears to have removed the old images.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.1804055,-1.8457872,2726m/data=!3m1!1e3
MO 465 & I-244 (St. Louis).
The former I-86 (as a passenger)
CT 291 (as a passenger)
CT 9A (as a passenger)
The portions of CT 72 east of New Britain (as a passenger and before CT 9 was built north of I-91) and it's old alignment through Forestville (driven)
The portions of CT 66 west of I-91 (as a passenger before I-691 was completed to I-84)
I-95 between Bristol, PA and Lawrenceville, NJ
Good catch on I-86. I'd forgotten about that one. I got that multiple times as a passenger too.
I know I traveled parts of Utah 195 and 181 while those still existed, but I'm not sure whether I fully clinched them before they got decommed in the late 2000s. 195 seems more likely than 181.
As far as old route alignments whose numbers no longer exist ... way way too many to keep track of.
Routes that were still in existence when I clinched them:
DE 34
I-695 (DC)
MD 516, MD 901, MD 996
I-95 Bus (Rocky Mt), I-495, original US 17 Bus Windsor, US 64 Bus (Tarboro); US 70-258 Bus (Kinston); NC 3 (now NC 136); NC 6, NC 44 (Tarboro), NC 44 (Goldsboro)
US 17 Bus (Mt Pleasant); US 76-123 Bus (Seneca); SC 31 (now I-526); SC 73; SC 478 (now I-77 btw I-26 and US 76-378);
TN 42
VA 44 (now I-264); VA 104; VA 163 (Williamsburg); VA 167 (Hampton); VA 212 #5; VA 253 (Occoquan); VA 275 (Staunton); VA 357; VA 386; VA 408; VA 409 (Tidewater); VA 410; VA 411 (Va Beach); VA 414; VA 416
WV 59
Former US routes I've driven the last iteration of in their entirety since their decommission (i.e. not renumbered as another US route):
US 48 (MD/WV), US 111, US 140, US 213, US 230, US 240
Sure I'm forgetting a few...
Not going to try to list former state routes that were decommissioned (not renumbered) and I drove their entirety later. Couple hundred of these at least.
Several state routes in Kentucky that have been turned over to counties or cities. Closest one to me is KY 1398.
And US 227. Part of it did get renumbered to KY 227, but not all. Part disappeared entirely (because it was concurrent with US 460) and the rest became KY 627.
Regarding the US 27 family I did fully clinch the highway in Michigan before it was decommissioned. I also have driven what can be done by car of what would have been US 16, M-16, US 25 and US 112.
For Arizona some that come to mind that I've replicated:
- AZ 62
- AZ 63
- AZ 65
- US 66
- AZ 79 (designations 1 and 2)
- US 80
- AZ 81 (the first designation)
- AZ 89L
- US 91
- AZ 93
- AZ 160
- AZ 164 (designations 1 and 2)
- US 164
- AZ 166
- AZ 170
- AZ 172
- AZ 173
- US 180 (first designation)
- US 260
- AZ 279
- AZ 360
- AZ 364
- AZ 464
- US 466
- AZ 504
- US 666
- AZ 789
Arizona has had a lot of State Highways swap numbers, were decommissioned to places like National Monuments or became US Routes. With stuff like US 66 and US 80 I might not have clinched any particular vintage pre-Interstate era given much of those segments have been obliterated.
I had I-164 clinched before it became I-69.
I had I-265 cliched in Nashville before they rearranged.
In Florida, I had FL9A clinched before it became I-295.
In Colorado:
CO29
CO33
CO68
CO110
CO122
CO187
CO233
Chris
I am going to go ahead and count the former CO-789 as my longest to date (which pretty much was a cross-state N-S route which multiplexed over various other routes). After clinching CO-13 north of Craig a couple of weeks ago, I pretty much have traveled the entire length of the old route sometime or another.
Like Max and Stranger, my qualifying routes are former state highways with the number not currently in use in CA: from south to north, CA 117 (SD County iteration), CA 209, CA 274, CA 106, CA 206, CA 224, CA 176, CA 141. All are gone, but CA 117 became CA 905 and CA 106 was from 1974-1991 the rerouted CA 30, but the alignment was relinquished in favor of the eastern end of the CA 30 ("Foothill") freeway, now the east end of CA 210. Everything else is a straightforward relinquishment.
Quote from: thenetwork on February 02, 2021, 06:57:04 PM
I am going to go ahead and count the former CO-789 as my longest to date (which pretty much was a cross-state N-S route which multiplexed over various other routes). After clinching CO-13 north of Craig a couple of weeks ago, I pretty much have traveled the entire length of the old route sometime or another.
I've gotten all of it except US550 between New Mexico and Durango. I'll probably pick it up this summer.
Chris
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on February 02, 2021, 01:02:30 PM
The former I-86 (as a passenger)
CT 291 (as a passenger)
CT 9A (as a passenger)
The portions of CT 72 east of New Britain (as a passenger and before CT 9 was built north of I-91) and it's old alignment through Forestville (driven)
The portions of CT 66 west of I-91 (as a passenger before I-691 was completed to I-84)
I-95 between Bristol, PA and Lawrenceville, NJ
That reminds me...I missed one. I have actually driven on RI-195 before it was US-6. I remember the renumbering messing me up one time on my way back home from Ithaca because I was looking for "RI-195".
I had NE 38 before Nebraska decommissioned it in 2003.
In Minnesota, I can definitely say I got MN 110 before MN 62 took it over. I also had the original route of MN 95 when it went through Afton and Lakeland rather than go straight north on Manning Ave. north to I-94.
As for Iowa, I had a few that were decommissioned in 2003. IA 91, IA 385, IA 41 and, bizarrely, IA 107 were all done before they were decommissioned, amongst others. I say bizarrely for IA 107 because it was 18 years before I moved to this area. As for post-2003 decommissionings, there were IA 370 and IA 192.
I-164, US 48 (MD).
US-112
US-25 in Michigan
US-27 in Michigan
Old US-12 between Ann Arbor and Detroit (along Plymouth Road not Michigan Avenue)
Quote from: jayhawkco on February 02, 2021, 06:22:38 PM
I had I-164 clinched before it became I-69.
In Florida, I had FL9A clinched before it became I-295.
In Colorado:
CO29
CO33
CO68
CO110
CO122
CO187
CO233
Chris
It is still technically FL SR 9A.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on February 03, 2021, 07:26:00 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on February 02, 2021, 06:22:38 PM
I had I-164 clinched before it became I-69.
In Florida, I had FL9A clinched before it became I-295.
In Colorado:
CO29
CO33
CO68
CO110
CO122
CO187
CO233
Chris
It is still technically FL SR 9A.
I know, but I don't count that I've clinched FL9 just because it's the secret designation for I-95. Seems silly.
Chris
Clinched while still a state highway
M-108
M-110
BUS US-31 (Holland)
BUS US-131 (Grand Rapids)
Former route clinched after decommissioning
M-7
The original M-63 (through Luther)
The original M-119 (now the southern portion of M-40)
BS I-96 (Muskegon)
M-118
M-209
I-265 in Nashville.
The once signed I-124. It is still I-124 but the signage was taken down in favor of US 27.
Julian M Carroll Purchase Parkway. I'm pretty sure the southern end still is signed but if it is it won't be for much longer. Also IN-431.
How about the old US31W in IN. Actually now it is also the old IN 131 and current CR 311.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on February 05, 2021, 07:50:59 AM
How about the old US31W in IN. Actually now it is also the old IN 131 and current CR 311.
US 31W became IN 311 and then CH 311. IN 131 was a different road.
Quote from: Mapmikey on February 02, 2021, 04:32:04 PM
Routes that were still in existence when I clinched them:
[...]
Former US routes I've driven the last iteration of in their entirety since their decommission (i.e. not renumbered as another US route):
US 48 (MD/WV), US 111, US 140, US 213, US 230, US 240
[...]
Are there good resources for this? I at least know of guides for US 66 and US 80, and I'm sure there are guides for routes like US 99. What's the easiest way to follow old US routes?
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on February 05, 2021, 12:20:25 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on February 02, 2021, 04:32:04 PM
Routes that were still in existence when I clinched them:
[...]
Former US routes I've driven the last iteration of in their entirety since their decommission (i.e. not renumbered as another US route):
US 48 (MD/WV), US 111, US 140, US 213, US 230, US 240
[...]
Are there good resources for this? I at least know of guides for US 66 and US 80, and I'm sure there are guides for routes like US 99. What's the easiest way to follow old US routes?
The last state official maps for these. These made it to the modern day, so it's not like trying to piece together how they ran in the 1930s or anything like that.
US 48 is just I-68 today
US 213 is just MD 213 today if you are driving the configuration when it was retired
US 240 is just I-270 and MD 355 into DC, etc.
If I were to attempt driving the
first iterations of these when they were created, that would involve a lot more research using old county maps, old topo maps, websites similar to the Virginia Hwys page that have attempted to describe where these routes used to run etc...
I-65 was a routing for US 31E once upon a time.
US 31E used to run from Ellington Pkwy to Briley Pkwy to I-65 to Vietnam Veterans Pkwy with a bannered BUSINESS US 31E in Hendersonville, TN. This was switched back to run from Briley Pkwy back to Gallatin Pike removing the bannered BUSINESS US 31E.
Anyone know why it was rerouted to the surface route in Metro Nashville? Did the Metro Government not want to maintain that portion of Gallatin Pike? Prior to the rerouting back to the surface route their was a very old 30's spec shield that was still posted on Gallatin Pike.
I guess I can add Indiana's SR 100 and WIS-149.
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on February 05, 2021, 12:20:25 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on February 02, 2021, 04:32:04 PM
Routes that were still in existence when I clinched them:
[...]
Former US routes I've driven the last iteration of in their entirety since their decommission (i.e. not renumbered as another US route):
US 48 (MD/WV), US 111, US 140, US 213, US 230, US 240
[...]
Are there good resources for this? I at least know of guides for US 66 and US 80, and I'm sure there are guides for routes like US 99. What's the easiest way to follow old US routes?
Honestly the easiest way is to dig into old map resources and public works guides where you can find them. I have a directory on Gribblenation pertaining to just California which includes a ton of Old US Route segments. Really a lot of the time you are going to be reliant on your own research unless it's something like US 66 or the Lincoln Highway.
Local governments in Georgia can often get GDOT to widen a local road, when GDOT does this they assign a route number to the road while they widen it and then turn it back over to the local government when the project is completed. Counting this type of route, there are several decommissioned routes that I have clinched.
WI-84 WI-99 WI-192 WI-341
VA 44 as both commissioned and decommissioned.
FL 9A that is now I-295 in Jacksonville.
Quote from: roadman65 on February 06, 2021, 10:55:03 PM
VA 44 as both commissioned and decommissioned.
FL 9A that is now I-295 in Jacksonville.
It's still FL 9A, just not signed. Florida is one of the states that had hidden internal designations for US and interstate highways.
(also, just like FL A1A, FL 9A has multiple segments)
NY 368, NY 31B, NY 31C (as a passenger)
VA 44, VA 104, VA 163 (Williamsburg), VA 260, VA 410, VA 411, VA 414
PA 9
NJ-177
While it still existed: PA 295, WIS 123, Route 95M (NJ) (now 295) at least
Should I count things like US 15 in New York on its old alignment (not the Rochester one, the early 2000s one) as I have also clinched it on the new?
Is the Dulles Access Rd still VA 90004? Or is it now also SR 267?
What was the Corning NY bypass's designation when it only went to Exit 46?
There are a ton of decommissioned routes in the past I've likely completed, it would take a lot of research though.
I-181 in Tennessee. North of I-81 before it became an extension of I-26; south of I-81 after.
(https://i.imgur.com/20O42jh.jpg)
MS 828 and MS 730
I clinched FL SR ALT 824, SR 82, and I believe SR 9823 if it even ever exsisted.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on February 26, 2021, 09:54:19 AM
I clinched FL SR ALT 824, SR 82, and I believe SR 9823 if it even ever existed.
FL 82 exists down by Fort Meyers, and "standard" 824 still hangs on as Sheridan Boulevard.
9823 is that mystery route, ain't it? I swore I saw a detour sign that designation once about 25 years ago, but never any real shields for it.
By the criteria of the OP, the now-bypassed alignments of US 66 in CA would count, since I've clinched all of the original US 66 in CA that still exists.
Quote from: wanderer2575 on February 16, 2021, 12:14:28 AM
I-181 in Tennessee. North of I-81 before it became an extension of I-26; south of I-81 after.
(https://i.imgur.com/20O42jh.jpg)
This as well. Came north on US 23 and I-181 out of Asheville back in 1989; was going to simply turn NB on I-81, but my traveling companions wanted to hit a market for supplies, so we headed straight up 181/23 into Kingsport -- and actually got off at US 11W (where the "End I-181" shield assembly was located) and hit a Kroger's up the road a bit. We ended up just heading up 11W back to I-81 south of Bristol. That was part of a great cross-country trip that ended up in Maine a week or so later.
I've clinched the former NY 115 on Long Island and CT 10A in New Haven. I've also clinched the routing of NY 1A at the point when it was entirely in the Bronx and Westchester. Then, there's NY 878 and NY 895, which used to be I-878 and I-895, respectively. The latter I've done both before and after the change, which was relatively recent.