Poll
Question:
What time zone do you currently reside in
Option 1: Eastern
votes: 23
Option 2: Central
votes: 21
Option 3: Mountain
votes: 5
Option 4: Pacific
votes: 4
Option 5: Alaska
votes: 0
Option 6: Hawaii-Aleutian
votes: 1
Option 7: Other
votes: 6
I reside in the Central timezone, have all my life. I've been to all six US state timezones.
I put "other," because Arizona doesn't observe daylight time, other than the Navajo Nation. It's called Mountain Standard Time year-round, but for the purposes of real life (like live TV/sports), it's Mountain time between early November and early March, and Pacific time the rest of the year.
In any case, Arizona time is UTC-7 all the time.
Eastern. Connecticut native and two stints in Maine.
Daylight saving time isn't observed in Hawaii or Puerto Rico either. Some people proposed putting Maine on Atlantic standard time year round, just like Puerto Rico. Lastly, I was told that British Columbia will go to permanent Pacific daylight time.
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on February 01, 2021, 11:52:33 PM
Some people proposed putting Maine on Atlantic standard time year round
Year round AST can't come soon enough. If only anyone was just willing to do it without saying: "We need to wait for all of the east coast" :poke:
I want EDT year-round.
We all know what this thread will devolve into...
You all know what I mean. EST and EDT, CST and CDT, MST and MDT, PST and PDT. Those are the four categories (plus the other two). There should be no further discussion of DST here.
And, for the purposes of this thread, Arizona is Mountain.
Quote from: Rothman on February 02, 2021, 12:33:54 AM
We all know what this thread will devolve into...
(https://i.imgur.com/SYToBto.png)
Do we have any members from the Atlantic Time part of Canada?
My vote is legitimately for Other, since my real time zone is Central... Europe :sombrero:. I state I use Eastern, or more precisely 6 hours behind my time (to account for different DST start/end dates), for this forum's purposes, but in practice I seldom use it. Heck, I even track Big Rig Steve around the country using my time zone!
Central time, the best of all of them/
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on February 02, 2021, 04:18:42 PM
Central time, the best of all of them
False. Mountain time is the best time zone in existence.
Although I currently live in Eastern.
Quote from: STLmapboy on February 02, 2021, 12:51:01 AM
And, for the purposes of this thread, Arizona is Mountain.
Then change at least two of us from "Other" to Mountain.
I don't know what is more frustrating- changing your clock twice a year, or having your time zone change on you twice a year.
Why did people put "other" just because their state doesn't observe DST? Did the choices on the poll used to specify "standard time" but now they don't? All they say for me is "Central" or "Mountain" or whatever–don't specify "Standard" at all.
Quote from: 1 on February 02, 2021, 06:55:35 AM
Do we have any members from the Atlantic Time part of Canada?
At least one, from Nova Scotia.
Probably nobody from the Newfoundland time zone.
Quote from: US 89 on February 02, 2021, 05:02:24 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on February 02, 2021, 04:18:42 PM
Central time, the best of all of them
False. Mountain time is the best time zone in existence.
Although I currently live in Eastern.
Agreed. Having lived in all of the main four in the U.S., I think Mountain is the best. Sports are timed just about perfectly and you're not more than three hours away from anyone else in the U.S..
Chris
All of you are wrong. Pacific is best because you cannot beat its geographic diversity. Fight me.
Quote from: jakeroot on February 02, 2021, 05:50:52 PM
All of you are wrong. Pacific is best because you cannot beat its geographic diversity. Fight me.
NFL games shouldn't begin at 10 AM. That's at least a couple of hours before beer o'clock.
Chris
I am part of the group that was listening to the last part of the program time when commercials for shows/sporting events were on TV.
"At 8:00/7:00 Central"
Quote from: jakeroot on February 02, 2021, 05:50:52 PM
All of you are wrong. Pacific is best because you cannot beat its geographic diversity. Fight me.
UTC+8
Quote from: jayhawkco on February 02, 2021, 06:04:40 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 02, 2021, 05:50:52 PM
All of you are wrong. Pacific is best because you cannot beat its geographic diversity. Fight me.
NFL games shouldn't begin at 10 AM. That's at least a couple of hours before beer o'clock.
Chris
I'm not here to discuss facts and evidence.
Quote from: Konza on February 02, 2021, 05:08:14 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on February 02, 2021, 12:51:01 AM
And, for the purposes of this thread, Arizona is Mountain.
Then change at least two of us from "Other" to Mountain.
I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
No, but I can't change poll results. Poll takers can remove their own votes and revote.
Quote from: STLmapboy on February 01, 2021, 10:28:48 PM
I've been to all six US state timezones.
You've been to both Alaska and Hawaii at age 16? Must be nice.
Eastern.
This thread is calling for me to again express my absolute hatred for Central time and my desire for year-round DST.
I'm in the Eastern Time Zone, on the western edge of it. Before Wayne County was moved from Central to Eastern, I was only four counties away from a Central Time Zone county (Wayne borders Pulaski, Pulaski borders Laurel, Laurel borders Jackson, and Jackson borders Lee.)
Quote from: 1 on February 02, 2021, 06:55:35 AM
Do we have any members from the Atlantic Time part of Canada?
Reporting for duty :biggrin:
Quote from: Bluenoser on February 14, 2021, 08:55:30 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 02, 2021, 06:55:35 AM
Do we have any members from the Atlantic Time part of Canada?
Reporting for duty :biggrin:
I was legitimately scared there for about half a second (reporting for offensive content, reporting for personal attack, etc.)
Quote from: hbelkins on February 14, 2021, 02:51:02 PM
This thread is calling for me to again express my absolute hatred for Central time and my desire for year-round DST.
You hate us cause you ain't us. :)
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on February 14, 2021, 09:32:54 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 14, 2021, 02:51:02 PM
This thread is calling for me to again express my absolute hatred for Central time and my desire for year-round DST.
You hate us cause you ain't us. :)
The only reason I would hate Central time is that it is close enough to Atlanta (2 counties away, even) that some of my road adventures take me into it. Since I often take photos using my phone, which changes its time zone based on my location, any sort of time change during the day will result in them being out of order.
It's even worse if you cross the boundary multiple times in a day - I did a daytrip up to the Chattanooga area last fall and crossed the boundary six times.
That said, in order: Mountain > Central > Eastern > Pacific.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on February 14, 2021, 09:32:54 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 14, 2021, 02:51:02 PM
This thread is calling for me to again express my absolute hatred for Central time and my desire for year-round DST.
You hate us cause you ain't us. :)
I must say, I don't understand the hatred of a time zone other than one's own. I don't mind Central time at all. Pacific is annoying, though. 3 hours offset is just enough to be a pain in almost any context you can think of.
Quote from: US 89 on February 14, 2021, 09:41:51 PM
It's even worse if you cross the boundary multiple times in a day - I did a daytrip up to the Chattanooga area last fall and crossed the boundary six times.
Wow, I guess I never realized how close the boundary is to Atlanta/Chattanooga. That would be annoying. One change in a single day/trip is plenty.
I voted for Central simply because that is where I live. Since I don't watch sports, and tend to steer clear of scripted TV unless I can time-shift, I am only rarely in the position of being pushed to develop a timezone preference on the basis of scheduling windows fixed for the convenience of people in another timezone, mandated broadcast delays, and other forms of time-based media embargo. One of the infrequent examples that comes to mind is federal elections every two years.
My concern is more that the area I am in should be in a timezone that is reasonable given its geographical position and the social conventions that govern business and living. For example, business hours of eight to five should correspond to morning to late afternoon rather than, say, middle of the night to noon, and twelve noon should generally be close to both midday and lunchtime. Beijing in the Beijing timezone is reasonable: Ürümqi (1750 miles west) in the Beijing timezone is not.
I'm currently living in Central time, but I'm working in Eastern time. It's surprisingly frustrating.
Just because I was interested in the demographics here vs. the U.S. at large, I looked up population by time zone.
(Applies for contiguous U.S. only)
47.6% Eastern
29.1% Central
6.7% Mountain
16.6% Pacific
Chris
Quote from: jayhawkco on February 15, 2021, 09:16:02 AM
Just because I was interested in the demographics here vs. the U.S. at large, I looked up population by time zone.
(Applies for contiguous U.S. only)
47.6% Eastern
29.1% Central
6.7% Mountain
16.6% Pacific
Chris
I know Pacific is underrepresented here, but I thought Eastern was overrepresented. Apparently not – Eastern and Central have about the same number of votes.
By the way, Canada is
not underrepresented on this forum. Canada has about 1/10 the population of the US.
US and Canada combined (still excludes Alaska and Hawaii, though):
0.15% Newfoundland and Labrador
0.55% Atlantic
49.0% Eastern
26.8% Central
7.2% Mountain
16.2% Pacific
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 15, 2021, 12:23:05 AM
twelve noon should generally be close to ... midday
Well, that makes two of us. Everyone else thinks of us as archaic.
I've lived in Eastern and Central about equally in my life and as someone who watches a fair amount of TV, I much prefer Central. Prime time programming begins at 7 instead of 8, and local news can be found at 9 instead of 10. Weeknight sporting events also don't run so late. I also prefer living at the eastern edge of a time zone in order to avoid the ridiculously late sunrises.
Eastern
Quote from: webny99 on February 14, 2021, 10:24:38 PM
I must say, I don't understand the hatred of a time zone other than one's own. I don't mind Central time at all.
Because it pushes everything back an hour. If you're used to something being at 10 in the Eastern zone, it's at 9 in Central.
My colleague in the Somerset office (Eastern) lives in Russell Springs (Central). Office hours are 8-4:30 Eastern. That means for her, the hours are 7-3:30. And she has a commute of 30 miles or more. I can't imagine having to get up that early every day to do to work.
And the early sunsets in winter are even worse. It gets dark way too early as it is in December in Eastern time. Push that back an hour in Central time. Darkness at 4:30 or thereabouts is downright depressing. That's one reason I favor year-round DST.
Quote from: hbelkins on February 15, 2021, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: webny99 on February 14, 2021, 10:24:38 PM
I must say, I don't understand the hatred of a time zone other than one's own. I don't mind Central time at all.
Because it pushes everything back an hour. If you're used to something being at 10 in the Eastern zone, it's at 9 in Central.
Well, of course, but we have to have time zones, and the time zone lines have to be somewhere. If you'd say the same thing about Mountain Time if you lived in western Kansas or Texas, then to me that's an issue with living near the line (or with where the line is placed), not with the time zone itself.
PST for me.
Quote from: webny99 on February 15, 2021, 04:49:41 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 15, 2021, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: webny99 on February 14, 2021, 10:24:38 PM
I must say, I don't understand the hatred of a time zone other than one's own. I don't mind Central time at all.
Because it pushes everything back an hour. If you're used to something being at 10 in the Eastern zone, it's at 9 in Central.
Well, of course, but we have to have time zones, and the time zone lines have to be somewhere. If you'd say the same thing about Mountain Time if you lived in western Kansas or Texas, then to me that's an issue with living near the line (or with where the line is placed), not with the time zone itself.
If I'm driving east, and it goes from 9 PM to 10 PM, suddenly a bunch of stuff is closed that wasn't closed a few miles behind me if I didn't plan ahead or consider that. That's no fun either.
Central time
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on February 15, 2021, 03:06:02 AM
I'm currently living in Central time, but I'm working in Eastern time. It's surprisingly frustrating.
When I was little my dad worked in a different time zone.
Quote from: hbelkins on February 15, 2021, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: webny99 on February 14, 2021, 10:24:38 PM
I must say, I don't understand the hatred of a time zone other than one's own. I don't mind Central time at all.
And the early sunsets in winter are even worse. It gets dark way too early as it is in December in Eastern time. Push that back an hour in Central time. Darkness at 4:30 or thereabouts is downright depressing. That's one reason I favor year-round DST.
Look at western Aussie (near the Northern and southern Territory) Aussie and east Indonesia (even eastern India as well) and see how off their timezones are!
India (https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/india/dibrugarh)
Western Australia (https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/@2072117) Oh look! Sunset in the summer (December) doesn't even go past 6pm!
Indonesia (https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/indonesia/jayapura) What a waste of morning daylight used.
Norway (https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/norway/kirkenes) Since it's in the arctic circle (which is close to the north pole), I'm not worried about this one that much.
Alaska (https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/nome) has solar noon way past 12pm. And in Maine (https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/lubec), solar noon is before 12pm (without DST, of course).
Eastern
Quote from: webny99 on February 02, 2021, 09:03:34 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on February 01, 2021, 10:28:48 PM
I've been to all six US state timezones.
You've been to both Alaska and Hawaii at age 16? Must be nice.
It is. Interestingly, I've never been to some closer-in states like Indiana and Kentucky.
mountain, aka 'what time does this show REALLY air' land
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on February 15, 2021, 10:22:47 PM
mountain, aka 'what time does this show REALLY air' land
A good point on that would be Rapid City, SD. They get their main CBS feed from Sioux Falls, so folks watching the Eye get live prime time at 6 PM in sync with Central Time.
Quote from: US 89 on February 14, 2021, 09:41:51 PM
That said, in order: Mountain > Central > Eastern > Pacific.
Is this most-hated to least-hated or vice-versa?
I'm not sure I could possibly hate a time zone, earlier posts aside.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on February 15, 2021, 03:06:02 AM
I'm currently living in Central time, but I'm working in Eastern time. It's surprisingly frustrating.
I work from home and my office is on Eastern time, but with the kids doing school from home, I don't mind starting work at 6:15 am as it gives me a couple hours of quiet before they get up.
Quote from: jakeroot on February 16, 2021, 01:57:36 AM
Quote from: US 89 on February 14, 2021, 09:41:51 PM
That said, in order: Mountain > Central > Eastern > Pacific.
Is this most-hated to least-hated or vice-versa?
That would be in order from best to worst.
I hate Pacific. Sports are way too early and the evening news still isn't till 11. TV gets tape delayed 3 hours, which is a lot less manageable than the 1 hour Mountain delay if you want to avoid spoilers.
Wow, apparently TV shows weigh heavily on people's opinions about this topic.
We haven't had cable TV for years, and we only break out the rabbit ears and DTA for two occasions: tornado warnings and the Olympics. Everything we watch is on Netflix/Amazon/whatever. So air times mean nothing to me, unless Chiefs games interfere with our fan-friends hosting church small group at their house (and, even then, they can just DVR it and ignore everyone's text messages).
Quote from: US 89 on February 16, 2021, 11:40:59 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 16, 2021, 01:57:36 AM
Quote from: US 89 on February 14, 2021, 09:41:51 PM
That said, in order: Mountain > Central > Eastern > Pacific.
Is this most-hated to least-hated or vice-versa?
That would be in order from best to worst.
I hate Pacific. Sports are way too early and the evening news still isn't till 11. TV gets tape delayed 3 hours, which is a lot less manageable than the 1 hour Mountain delay if you want to avoid spoilers.
Gotcha.
I've always preferred Pacific for sports, as it fits within the day a bit better. Football is 10am to 8:30pm, rather than 1pm to some ungodly hour. I can watch the Dolphins get beat up for a few hours in the morning, and then go about my day! Mountain is obviously a good compromise, but I think a 10am start is still my preference.
Like
kphoger above, TV otherwise doesn't factor into my decision. I use YouTube TV to record some news programs and I'll occasionally watch them back on my phone or computer when I'm eating. Everything else is streamed.
Quote from: Bluenoser on February 14, 2021, 08:55:30 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 02, 2021, 06:55:35 AM
Do we have any members from the Atlantic Time part of Canada?
Reporting for duty :biggrin:
Me too!
Here we think of Hockey or Ballgames starting at 8pm.....but when we get to Toronto, Montreal or Boston......we're taking are time having dinner and then realize "Hey....we better get moving" .....the game starts here at 7pm!
And if you're from Newfoundland.....those games start at 8:30pm on TV.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfEj_oJSIiY
Quote from: jakeroot on February 16, 2021, 02:53:25 PM
Quote from: US 89 on February 16, 2021, 11:40:59 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 16, 2021, 01:57:36 AM
Quote from: US 89 on February 14, 2021, 09:41:51 PM
That said, in order: Mountain > Central > Eastern > Pacific.
Is this most-hated to least-hated or vice-versa?
That would be in order from best to worst.
I hate Pacific. Sports are way too early and the evening news still isn't till 11. TV gets tape delayed 3 hours, which is a lot less manageable than the 1 hour Mountain delay if you want to avoid spoilers.
Gotcha.
I've always preferred Pacific for sports, as it fits within the day a bit better. Football is 10am to 8:30pm, rather than 1pm to some ungodly hour. I can watch the Dolphins get beat up for a few hours in the morning, and then go about my day! Mountain is obviously a good compromise, but I think a 10am start is still my preference.
Like kphoger above, TV otherwise doesn't factor into my decision. I use YouTube TV to record some news programs and I'll occasionally watch them back on my phone or computer when I'm eating. Everything else is streamed.
I remember my first encounter with live sporting events in Sint Maarten. I woke up (after a pretty late Saturday night out) on a Sunday morning to CBS's "Face the Nation" which aired at what for me was its expected 10AM time since I was used to the other programs airing an hour later than normal (only a 30 minute NFL Today back then). I expected NFL Today to follow as it did back home in California. Well, NO! I had time to spend a whole day at the beach and driving around the island and such before the 49ers or Raiders games came on. I watched those in the Casino Sports Book (casinos didn't open until like 4PM).
Quote from: kphoger on February 16, 2021, 11:50:12 AM
Wow, apparently TV shows weigh heavily on people's opinions about this topic.
We haven't had cable TV for years, and we only break out the rabbit ears and DTA for two occasions: tornado warnings and the Olympics. Everything we watch is on Netflix/Amazon/whatever. So air times mean nothing to me, unless Chiefs games interfere with our fan-friends hosting church small group at their house (and, even then, they can just DVR it and ignore everyone's text messages).
3 generations of addiction to TV have shaped public opinion.
I haven't been dependent on TV schedules for at least 20 years (DVR broke my caring about TV schedules), and since I've telecommuted and set my own hours for over a decade and don't have kids, I'm not particularly beholden to other peoples' notions of what the clock should read at certain landmarks of the day.
It doesn't really matter to me if the clock averages 6 at sunrise/18 at sunset; I just need to make sure that I allow for enough daylight to get outside chores done. :)
Similarly, when it comes to arguments about DST...if I want "more daylight" earlier/later in the day, it seems less arrogant to change my schedule than to change the clock.
9:41 p.m.