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Title: Non US control cities
Post by: OCGuy81 on February 07, 2021, 01:05:40 PM
I know I-5 in Seattle has a NB control city of Vancouver, BC (along with Everett and Bellingham in some areas) but I can't recall if the southern end of I-5 uses Tijuana as a control city. I think the signs I saw in downtown SD used Chula Vista?

Are there other highways that use foreign control cities? Do 69 and 94 in Michigan use Toronto?

Montreal on 87?
Title: Re: Non US control cities
Post by: Flint1979 on February 07, 2021, 01:08:42 PM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on February 07, 2021, 01:05:40 PM
I know I-5 in Seattle has a NB control city of Vancouver, BC (along with Everett and Bellingham in some areas) but I can't recall if the southern end of I-5 uses Tijuana as a control city. I think the signs I saw in downtown SD used Chula Vista?

Are there other highways that use foreign control cities? Do 69 and 94 in Michigan use Toronto?

Montreal on 87?
No 69 and 94 in Michigan use Canada as does 96 in Detroit.
Title: Re: Non US control cities
Post by: GaryV on February 07, 2021, 01:09:28 PM
Michigan signs say "Canada".  I guess it's up to you where you go once you cross the bridge.

Edit:  Sniped.  In addition to those listed above, I-75 in SSM has "Canada" as well.

Title: Re: Non US control cities
Post by: SkyPesos on February 07, 2021, 01:28:32 PM
I-29 has Winnipeg north of Grand Forks. Not sure if I-15 has either Lethbridge or Calgary north of Great Falls, someone else can confirm?
Title: Re: Non US control cities
Post by: 1995hoo on February 07, 2021, 01:51:12 PM
I-81 in northern New York has some signs that say "Canada."

I-87 uses Montreal.

Either I-89 or I-91 uses Sherbrooke.
Title: Re: Non US control cities
Post by: jp the roadgeek on February 07, 2021, 02:12:16 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2021, 01:51:12 PM
I-81 in northern New York has some signs that say "Canada."

I-87 uses Montreal.

Either I-89 or I-91 uses Sherbrooke.

89 uses Montreal in a couple spots, most notably on US 2 in Colchester.  The last control BGS's for I-91 are on US 2 and they use Newport.  The LGS's from Newport north use "Canada" 

I-95 uses "New Brunswick Canada" in Houlton for the northbound entrance from US 1.

I-190 in NY uses "Canada" (although I wish they'd use Toronto)
Title: Re: Non US control cities
Post by: kphoger on February 07, 2021, 04:13:03 PM
Monterrey, Mex (https://goo.gl/maps/qkoipzyECnPAGG4v9)

Not sure if this counts.  Monterrey is about 180 miles away at this point, and this sign directs traffic bound for that city to bypass Laredo. 
Title: Re: Non US control cities
Post by: bassoon1986 on February 07, 2021, 04:24:18 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on February 07, 2021, 01:28:32 PM
I-29 has Winnipeg north of Grand Forks. Not sure if I-15 has either Lethbridge or Calgary north of Great Falls, someone else can confirm?
Google maps showed Shelby (MT) then Lethbridge


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Title: Re: Non US control cities
Post by: Flint1979 on February 07, 2021, 07:50:16 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on February 07, 2021, 01:28:32 PM
I-29 has Winnipeg north of Grand Forks. Not sure if I-15 has either Lethbridge or Calgary north of Great Falls, someone else can confirm?
Shelby first then Lethbridge which is in Alberta so I'm surprised they don't mention that too since it's 60 miles into Canada.
Title: Re: Non US control cities
Post by: Flint1979 on February 07, 2021, 07:56:14 PM
It's a MDOT thing to put Canada as the control city near the borders they all have them but it would make more sense if they have Windsor in Detroit and Sarnia in Port Huron, both are large enough cities right on the border and would let you know that you are heading to Canada anyway. Since you are in Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan it would be confusing to put Sault Ste. Marie for the Ontario city up there so that one can remain Canada for all I care.
Title: Re: Non US control cities
Post by: webny99 on February 07, 2021, 09:50:04 PM
I-190 uses Niagara Falls. Of course they mean the one in NY, but it's at least conceivable to interpret it as Niagara Falls, ON, which is the much more popular and renowned destination.
Title: Re: Non US control cities
Post by: achilles765 on February 08, 2021, 01:59:42 PM
Us 54 in El Paso has Juarez, Mexico listed as the control city heading westbound.
Title: Re: Non US control cities
Post by: Roadgeekteen on February 08, 2021, 02:05:27 PM
Why is Mexico more rare then Canada on signs?
Title: Re: Non US control cities
Post by: hotdogPi on February 08, 2021, 02:11:42 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 08, 2021, 02:05:27 PM
Why is Mexico more rare then than Canada on signs?

Because the US-Canada border is much longer than the US-Mexico border.
Title: Re: Non US control cities
Post by: 1995hoo on February 08, 2021, 02:51:10 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on February 07, 2021, 02:12:16 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2021, 01:51:12 PM
I-81 in northern New York has some signs that say "Canada."

I-87 uses Montreal.

Either I-89 or I-91 uses Sherbrooke.

89 uses Montreal in a couple spots, most notably on US 2 in Colchester.  The last control BGS's for I-91 are on US 2 and they use Newport.  The LGS's from Newport north use "Canada" 

....

It's been a while since I've been on I-91. I see on Street View that they've replaced a lot of signs and that the bilingual BGSs I remember (several that said "VOIE DROITE" in addition to "RIGHT LANE," for example) have been replaced.
Title: Re: Non US control cities
Post by: SkyPesos on February 08, 2021, 03:11:46 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 08, 2021, 02:05:27 PM
Why is Mexico more rare then Canada on signs?
Pretty much all of the interstates that heads towards Mexico except I-5 terminates shortly at some surface road before reaching the border checkpoints, and all of them cross at a notable border town in the US. Tijuana for I-5 has been mentioned already. You can make a case for Nogales on I-19 too, as the Mexican city of that name is larger than its Arizona counterpart.
Title: Re: Non US control cities
Post by: kphoger on February 08, 2021, 03:17:06 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on February 08, 2021, 03:11:46 PM

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 08, 2021, 02:05:27 PM
Why is Mexico more rare then Canada on signs?

Pretty much all of the interstates that heads towards Mexico except I-5 terminates shortly at some surface road before reaching the border checkpoints, and all of them cross at a notable border town in the US. Tijuana for I-5 has been mentioned already. You can make a case for Nogales on I-19 too, as the Mexican city of that name is larger than its Arizona counterpart.

I believe the control city for southbound I-19 in Nogales is "Intl Border", correct?