https://youtu.be/nBTKF8_tTh4
https://www.opb.org/television/programs/oregonexperience/article/state-of-jefferson/
Known as the "Mythical State of Jefferson" and "A State of Mind," Jefferson is more of an idea than a place. It represents the spirit of the people who live in Southern Oregon and far Northern California.
As far back as 1852, there were efforts to create a new, independent state in the area known as Jefferson.
Since then, there have been numerous secession attempts throughout the region. Some of them have been more serious than others.
On CA 263 north of Yreka:
https://flic.kr/p/2jV9TDF
This would have made way more sense the further back in time you go. For awhile communities like; Shasta, Weaverville, Etna, Fort Jones, Yreka and Jacksonville were going to be something major due to mining. As that era waned there wasn't a ton left to drive a large enough population into the area. Coastal access back in time over the projected Jefferson was basically non-existent and still is close to nothing.
There was a "How the States Got Their Shapes" episode about Jefferson and a few other states that might have been.
One was Franklin in NE Tennessee. One was a LDS proposed Deseret which would have taken up most of the interior West.
I'm thinking there was one more that I can't recall right now.
There's a barn you can see on the 5 northbound near Yreka that has State of Jefferson painted on it.
I reside in the "State Of Jefferson". Salem and Sacramento ignored this region, which led to a secession movement that ended with the attack on Pearl Harbor.
Rick
There was a short lived plan to split California into 6 states. Never got off the ground, obviously.
Quote from: cabiness42 on February 26, 2021, 09:34:12 AM
One was Franklin in NE Tennessee.
You know how I learned about that? By seeing the exit for "State of Franklin Road" in Johnson City on then-I-181.
The UP of Michigan (sometimes including far northern Wisconsin, sometimes not) flirts with leaving Michigan to create the state of "Superior" due to being ignored by Lansing for the most part.
I'd worry about Jefferson being able to make it economically. There's still some timber and some fishing. There's tourism. But putting those together it still seems like it would be hard times.
Quote from: kkt on February 26, 2021, 09:28:24 PM
I'd worry about Jefferson being able to make it economically. There's still some timber and some fishing. There's tourism. But putting those together it still seems like it would be hard times.
And the timber industry essentially is about close to dead as it can get now.
Quote from: cabiness42 on February 26, 2021, 09:34:12 AM
One was Franklin in NE Tennessee.
Quote from: hbelkins on February 26, 2021, 04:09:41 PM
You know how I learned about that? By seeing the exit for "State of Franklin Road" in Johnson City on then-I-181.
One odd quirk was that eight of North Carolina counties were ceded to the State of Franklin, and when statehood was not taken up by Congress they were readmitted into North Carolina. Wikipedia incorrectly indicates that these counties "seceded", but rather North Carolina offered this territory to Congress to pay for debts incurred during the Revolutionary War. Perhaps we could do this with the "State of Jefferson".
Quote from: hbelkins on February 26, 2021, 04:09:41 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on February 26, 2021, 09:34:12 AM
One was Franklin in NE Tennessee.
You know how I learned about that? By seeing the exit for "State of Franklin Road" in Johnson City on then-I-181.
I learned it by moving to Johnson City. Pretty much the same thing.
Quote from: nexus73 on February 26, 2021, 11:32:32 AM
I reside in the "State Of Jefferson". Salem and Sacramento ignored this region, which led to a secession movement that ended with the attack on Pearl Harbor.
Rick
Sorry, what????
Quote from: Ketchup99 on February 27, 2021, 12:26:19 AM
Quote from: nexus73 on February 26, 2021, 11:32:32 AM
I reside in the "State Of Jefferson". Salem and Sacramento ignored this region, which led to a secession movement that ended with the attack on Pearl Harbor.
Rick
Sorry, what????
That's the cliff note version of what happened:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(proposed_Pacific_state)
Quote from: Ketchup99 on February 27, 2021, 12:26:19 AM
Quote from: nexus73 on February 26, 2021, 11:32:32 AM
I reside in the "State Of Jefferson". Salem and Sacramento ignored this region, which led to a secession movement that ended with the attack on Pearl Harbor.
Rick
Sorry, what????
The movement lost momentum after Pearl Harbor due to the nation's attention turning to the war.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on February 27, 2021, 01:05:55 AM
Quote from: Ketchup99 on February 27, 2021, 12:26:19 AM
Quote from: nexus73 on February 26, 2021, 11:32:32 AM
I reside in the "State Of Jefferson". Salem and Sacramento ignored this region, which led to a secession movement that ended with the attack on Pearl Harbor.
Rick
Sorry, what????
The movement lost momentum after Pearl Harbor due to the nation's attention turning to the war.
I think Nexus worded that a little poorly, making it look as if Pearl Harbor was a result of the movement.
Quote from: kkt on February 26, 2021, 09:28:24 PM
I'd worry about Jefferson being able to make it economically. There's still some timber and some fishing. There's tourism. But putting those together it still seems like it would be hard times.
Marijuana. Lots and lots of Marijuana.
I need to find my source, but basically pot in the Emerald Triangle has a GDP greater then ALL the farming in the central valley.
http://mark-arax.com/highlands-of-humboldt/
Heh. Could be right. I wonder if legalization has hurt them or helped them.
Quote from: jander on February 27, 2021, 09:00:22 PM
Quote from: kkt on February 26, 2021, 09:28:24 PM
I'd worry about Jefferson being able to make it economically. There's still some timber and some fishing. There's tourism. But putting those together it still seems like it would be hard times.
Marijuana. Lots and lots of Marijuana.
I need to find my source, but basically pot in the Emerald Triangle has a GDP greater then ALL the farming in the central valley.
http://mark-arax.com/highlands-of-humboldt/
Has anyone actually studied that? I would like to see corroborating data because that seems far fetched.
Quote from: kkt on February 27, 2021, 10:03:10 PM
Heh. Could be right. I wonder if legalization has hurt them or helped them.
My Step Sister and her Husband moved back for that sole reason. It probably doesn't help he has a felony record and that was the one of the few industries he could get his foot in the door with.
Cannabis. California voters approved Prop 64 in November 2016 to legalize recreational marijuana in 2018. California was the first state to legalize medical marijuana with Prop 215 in 1996, which gave people suffering from cancer and other diseases the "legal right to obtain or grow, and use marijuana for medical purposes when recommended by a doctor."
Medical marijuana in California is believed to be a $2.5 billion-a-year commodity at the farm level, similar to the value of strawberries. Retail medical marijuana sales are estimated at $7 billion, suggesting that growers get a third of the average retail price, similar to the grower share of retail berry prices.
https://migration.ucdavis.edu/rmn/more.php?id=2034
Legalization of cannabis production in 2017 has generated demands for state regulatory, research and extension agencies, including UC, to address the ecological, social and agricultural aspects of this crop, which has an estimated retail value of over $10 billion (UC AIC 2017). Despite its enormous value and importance to California's agricultural economy, remarkably little is known about how the crop is cultivated.
http://calag.ucanr.edu/Archive/?article=ca.2019a0015
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-14/californias-biggest-legal-marijuana-market