Looking at photos on Flickr, it seems lots of button copy is gone in CA. I-10, I-710 etc seem to ave nothing left.
Any large swaths on the freeways still around?
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on March 14, 2021, 07:36:00 PM
Looking at photos on Flickr, it seems lots of button copy is gone in CA. I-10, I-710 etc seem to ave nothing left.
Any large swaths on the freeways still around?
Saw quite a bit in downtown San Jose on 280. Some being removed recently in San Bruno along 101
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Is this thread for CA only or are we expanding it to all states?
A lot of it has disappeared during SB1 signage replacement projects. Fresno has a lot of the newer variants still on the corridor of CA 168. It seems to be the stuff that was put up in the 1960s and 1970s that is being replaced.
Still some stuff in DTLA and occasional signage in the IE but a lot is gone. It's probably just as well, but their replacements are not in general improvements. The best surviving stuff is out in the hinterlands.
Button copy might still exist on streets leading up to the freeways but I am not so sure given that some of the button copy signs are on city jurisdiction.
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on March 15, 2021, 12:44:11 AM
Still some stuff in DTLA and occasional signage in the IE but a lot is gone. It's probably just as well, but their replacements are not in general improvements. The best surviving stuff is out in the hinterlands.
New signs' layout is a mixed bag but visibility at night is definitely better than button copy.
CA-242 is kind of a button-copy museum. It was widened and had much of the signage replaced in the late 90's, and nearly every BGS is still button copy to this day.
There is still a greenout over the old CA-24 shield from when the freeway was renumbered around 1987:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9853606,-122.0409733,3a,75y,18.77h,77.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOVspqlEZIa3QXWqYOlZxIg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
There is also a kind of unusual pull-through sign southbound where, instead of being signed as CA-242, it is "TO CA-24". This sign was installed in the late 90's and I can only assume it is a relic of the previous numbering.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.98369,-122.0416546,3a,75y,173.03h,96.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snLArWxZxu7gL2Isn5NK77A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
I was looking around on I-8 in California in GSV the other day, and it looks like there's still quite a bit of it left from what I saw.
There was a bunch near Barstow on the eastern terminus of CA 58. I-15 north to the State Line still has a bunch of newer button copy signs.
Quote from: jdbx on March 22, 2021, 12:33:40 PM
CA-242 is kind of a button-copy museum. It was widened and had much of the signage replaced in the late 90's, and nearly every BGS is still button copy to this day.
There is still a greenout over the old CA-24 shield from when the freeway was renumbered around 1987:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9853606,-122.0409733,3a,75y,18.77h,77.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOVspqlEZIa3QXWqYOlZxIg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9853606,-122.0409733,3a,75y,18.77h,77.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOVspqlEZIa3QXWqYOlZxIg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
There is also a kind of unusual pull-through sign southbound where, instead of being signed as CA-242, it is "TO CA-24". This sign was installed in the late 90's and I can only assume it is a relic of the previous numbering.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.98369,-122.0416546,3a,75y,173.03h,96.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snLArWxZxu7gL2Isn5NK77A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.98369,-122.0416546,3a,75y,173.03h,96.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snLArWxZxu7gL2Isn5NK77A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
I figured the last known button copy had to have been installed in either the late 1990's to early 2000's.
Quote from: bing101 on March 22, 2021, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: jdbx on March 22, 2021, 12:33:40 PM
CA-242 is kind of a button-copy museum. It was widened and had much of the signage replaced in the late 90's, and nearly every BGS is still button copy to this day.
There is still a greenout over the old CA-24 shield from when the freeway was renumbered around 1987:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9853606,-122.0409733,3a,75y,18.77h,77.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOVspqlEZIa3QXWqYOlZxIg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9853606,-122.0409733,3a,75y,18.77h,77.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOVspqlEZIa3QXWqYOlZxIg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
There is also a kind of unusual pull-through sign southbound where, instead of being signed as CA-242, it is "TO CA-24". This sign was installed in the late 90's and I can only assume it is a relic of the previous numbering.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.98369,-122.0416546,3a,75y,173.03h,96.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snLArWxZxu7gL2Isn5NK77A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.98369,-122.0416546,3a,75y,173.03h,96.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snLArWxZxu7gL2Isn5NK77A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
I figured the last known button copy had to have been installed in either the late 1990's to early 2000's.
All of the button copy attached to the Sierra Freeway segment of CA 168 is 1999 or later.
Quote from: bing101 on March 21, 2021, 07:52:30 PM
Isn't parts of CA-210 the last remaining areas to have button copy due to the fact that it was one of the last locations to install button copy signs in the late 1990's-early 2000's timeframe when the transitions to the current signs retro reflective BGS was made.
Some of it, but most of it has been replaced anyway.
There is still quite a bit of button copy left on CA-85, especially the segment between Stevens Creek Blvd in Cupertino and Almaden Expwy in south San Jose.
This segment of 85 uses the reddish-brown art-deco-esque box beam sign bridges which has since been removed from Caltrans' standard plans. I suspect that because of this removal, many of these signs escaped the SB1 sign replacement project (coupled with the fact that these signs are relatively new compared to others in the S.F. Bay Area).
Most, if not all of the signs south of Almaden Expwy were replaced in recent years because Caltrans used their standard trusses for this segment of 85.
There are still a couple of old porcelain button copy signs left on the original section of 85 between US 101 and I-280 mostly around the CA-82/El Camino Real interchange, the Homestead Road exit and on the ramp from southbound 85 to I-280. Newer button copy signs are still present on the ramp from northbound 85 to I-280. This exit was rebuilt as part of the CA-85 extension south of Stevens Creek Blvd and uses the same reddish-brown art-deco sign bridges.
Quote from: myosh_tino on March 24, 2021, 04:06:10 PM
There is still quite a bit of button copy left on CA-85, especially the segment between Stevens Creek Blvd in Cupertino and Almaden Expwy in south San Jose.
This segment of 85 uses the reddish-brown art-deco-esque box beam sign bridges which has since been removed from Caltrans' standard plans. I suspect that because of this removal, many of these signs escaped the SB1 sign replacement project (coupled with the fact that these signs are relatively new compared to others in the S.F. Bay Area).
Most, if not all of the signs south of Almaden Expwy were replaced in recent years because Caltrans used their standard trusses for this segment of 85.
There are still a couple of old porcelain button copy signs left on the original section of 85 between US 101 and I-280 mostly around the CA-82/El Camino Real interchange, the Homestead Road exit and on the ramp from southbound 85 to I-280. Newer button copy signs are still present on the ramp from northbound 85 to I-280. This exit was rebuilt as part of the CA-85 extension south of Stevens Creek Blvd and uses the same reddish-brown art-deco sign bridges.
Agreed. When the sign replacement project came to San Diego, nearly all button copy was removed and replaced during the course of 2020. The primary exception was the box truss sign bridge (I'm sure there's a better term for them). Several of these sign bridges that date to the early 1970s remain on Interstate 805 complete with the original porcelain enamel signs. I think that's because a separate contract will come later to replace not just the sign but also the sign bridges.
Here is an example of this type of sign bridge that I believe is obsolete and is planned for complete replacement based on the signs not being replaced last year.
https://www.aaroads.com/guides/i-805-north-san-diego-ca/ ... Exit 17 for Interstate 8
https://www.aaroads.com/ca/805/thb/i-805_nb_exit_017_05.jpg
99 in the Central Valley used to have a lot, but I haven't driven it in a long time....mostly because I'm a glutton for punishment and take the 5 on trips to and from Oregon to OC
Quote from: OCGuy81 on March 25, 2021, 12:26:14 PM
99 in the Central Valley used to have a lot, but I haven't driven it in a long time....mostly because I'm a glutton for punishment and take the 5 on trips to and from Oregon to OC
Most of it is gone now since D6 was huge on signage replacement projects when they got access to SB1 funding.
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on March 14, 2021, 07:36:00 PM
Looking at photos on Flickr, it seems lots of button copy is gone in CA. I-710
I drove part of I-710 today, north of CA 91. Here are two examples of older signs:
1. One with a CA-42 shield, maybe twenty years or so after the route was relinquished (per Wikipedia). The interchange sequence signs do not have the CA 42 shield.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51079813478_b738791183_z.jpg)
2. Approaching the interchange with I-210
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51080604982_17ea541612_z.jpg)
Yes, the I-210/I-605 interchange does have a lot of old glue-on button copy (not the fully formed letters). It also has an END I-605, which is nice.
Marina freeway CA-90 has button copy on the entire route.
Quote from: jdbx on March 22, 2021, 12:33:40 PM
CA-242 is kind of a button-copy museum. It was widened and had much of the signage replaced in the late 90's, and nearly every BGS is still button copy to this day.
There is still a greenout over the old CA-24 shield from when the freeway was renumbered around 1987:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9853606,-122.0409733,3a,75y,18.77h,77.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOVspqlEZIa3QXWqYOlZxIg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
There is also a kind of unusual pull-through sign southbound where, instead of being signed as CA-242, it is "TO CA-24". This sign was installed in the late 90's and I can only assume it is a relic of the previous numbering.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.98369,-122.0416546,3a,75y,173.03h,96.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snLArWxZxu7gL2Isn5NK77A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Why was that section of 24 renumbered to 242? In my mind, having one consistent corridor from Oakland to Concord with one number would be easier than having to remember 24-680-242. I know CA doesn't like multiplexing routes, but the multiplex here isn't that long.
Quote from: mrsman on April 02, 2021, 07:48:19 AM
Quote from: jdbx on March 22, 2021, 12:33:40 PM
CA-242 is kind of a button-copy museum. It was widened and had much of the signage replaced in the late 90's, and nearly every BGS is still button copy to this day.
There is still a greenout over the old CA-24 shield from when the freeway was renumbered around 1987:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9853606,-122.0409733,3a,75y,18.77h,77.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOVspqlEZIa3QXWqYOlZxIg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
There is also a kind of unusual pull-through sign southbound where, instead of being signed as CA-242, it is "TO CA-24". This sign was installed in the late 90's and I can only assume it is a relic of the previous numbering.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.98369,-122.0416546,3a,75y,173.03h,96.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snLArWxZxu7gL2Isn5NK77A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Why was that section of 24 renumbered to 242? In my mind, having one consistent corridor from Oakland to Concord with one number would be easier than having to remember 24-680-242. I know CA doesn't like multiplexing routes, but the multiplex here isn't that long.
24 has a planned reroute east of I-680 which was never built. You can see it on this 1964 DOH map, it would have ended at 4 near Antioch:
http://www.davidrumsey.com/ll/thumbnailView.html?startUrl=%2F%2Fwww.davidrumsey.com%2Fluna%2Fservlet%2Fas%2Fsearch%3Fos%3D0%26lc%3DRUMSEY~8~1%26q%3DCALTRANs%201964%26sort%3DPub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No%26bs%3D10#?c=0&m=0&s=0&cv=0&r=0&xywh=1625%2C7379%2C965%2C1581
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 02, 2021, 09:38:46 AM
Quote from: mrsman on April 02, 2021, 07:48:19 AM
Quote from: jdbx on March 22, 2021, 12:33:40 PM
CA-242 is kind of a button-copy museum. It was widened and had much of the signage replaced in the late 90's, and nearly every BGS is still button copy to this day.
There is still a greenout over the old CA-24 shield from when the freeway was renumbered around 1987:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9853606,-122.0409733,3a,75y,18.77h,77.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOVspqlEZIa3QXWqYOlZxIg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
There is also a kind of unusual pull-through sign southbound where, instead of being signed as CA-242, it is "TO CA-24". This sign was installed in the late 90's and I can only assume it is a relic of the previous numbering.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.98369,-122.0416546,3a,75y,173.03h,96.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snLArWxZxu7gL2Isn5NK77A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Why was that section of 24 renumbered to 242? In my mind, having one consistent corridor from Oakland to Concord with one number would be easier than having to remember 24-680-242. I know CA doesn't like multiplexing routes, but the multiplex here isn't that long.
24 has a planned reroute east of I-680 which was never built. You can see it on this 1964 DOH map, it would have ended at 4 near Antioch:
http://www.davidrumsey.com/ll/thumbnailView.html?startUrl=%2F%2Fwww.davidrumsey.com%2Fluna%2Fservlet%2Fas%2Fsearch%3Fos%3D0%26lc%3DRUMSEY~8~1%26q%3DCALTRANs%201964%26sort%3DPub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No%26bs%3D10#?c=0&m=0&s=0&cv=0&r=0&xywh=1625%2C7379%2C965%2C1581
To add on to that:
242 was essentially a paper designation from 1964-1990 or so (similar to 164 along 19 in Pasadena, or 51 for Business 80 in Sacramento), with 24 concurrent with 680 (some evidence of this concurrency can be seen in BGS greenout near the 680/24 junction) and then running up 242 to 4.
I suspect part of the reason for the truncation of 24 back to Walnut Creek is for ease of identifying the two separate freeways in traffic reports, with 242 being considered a short north-south connector.
Quote from: TheStranger on April 02, 2021, 11:14:35 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 02, 2021, 09:38:46 AM
Quote from: mrsman on April 02, 2021, 07:48:19 AM
Quote from: jdbx on March 22, 2021, 12:33:40 PM
CA-242 is kind of a button-copy museum. It was widened and had much of the signage replaced in the late 90's, and nearly every BGS is still button copy to this day.
There is still a greenout over the old CA-24 shield from when the freeway was renumbered around 1987:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9853606,-122.0409733,3a,75y,18.77h,77.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOVspqlEZIa3QXWqYOlZxIg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
There is also a kind of unusual pull-through sign southbound where, instead of being signed as CA-242, it is "TO CA-24". This sign was installed in the late 90's and I can only assume it is a relic of the previous numbering.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.98369,-122.0416546,3a,75y,173.03h,96.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snLArWxZxu7gL2Isn5NK77A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Why was that section of 24 renumbered to 242? In my mind, having one consistent corridor from Oakland to Concord with one number would be easier than having to remember 24-680-242. I know CA doesn't like multiplexing routes, but the multiplex here isn't that long.
24 has a planned reroute east of I-680 which was never built. You can see it on this 1964 DOH map, it would have ended at 4 near Antioch:
http://www.davidrumsey.com/ll/thumbnailView.html?startUrl=%2F%2Fwww.davidrumsey.com%2Fluna%2Fservlet%2Fas%2Fsearch%3Fos%3D0%26lc%3DRUMSEY~8~1%26q%3DCALTRANs%201964%26sort%3DPub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No%26bs%3D10#?c=0&m=0&s=0&cv=0&r=0&xywh=1625%2C7379%2C965%2C1581
To add on to that:
242 was essentially a paper designation from 1964-1990 or so (similar to 164 along 19 in Pasadena, or 51 for Business 80 in Sacramento), with 24 concurrent with 680 (some evidence of this concurrency can be seen in BGS greenout near the 680/24 junction) and then running up 242 to 4.
I suspect part of the reason for the truncation of 24 back to Walnut Creek is for ease of identifying the two separate freeways in traffic reports, with 242 being considered a short north-south connector.
There is still a surviving sign from the multiplex days in Pleasant Hill on Contra Costa Blvd near Boyd Road that never got the greenout treatment:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9440155,-122.0606065,3a,75y,206.68h,92.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWbhyk8XPnatfKwdp90QvtA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Several signs in the area also sport the greenout, all of which are at least 30-35 years old:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9332831,-122.0569202,3a,75y,267.43h,83.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWajdsGnkQftuHRsKiulZVg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9262908,-122.0612698,3a,75y,102.15h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s22knwtyChih3CLlAL3SEiQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Another important bit in the route chronology in Concord:
The existing 242 right of way was built in the 1950s as Route 24, the maps of that era show it under construction ca. 1953-1955. This was part of the much longer 24 routing from near Reno to Berkeley from the 1930s.
24 itself fit in with the original 1934 grid near Route 32 and 36, in the portion that has since become Route 70 (and for a time was Alternate US 40).
Past Concord, 24 ran concurrent with 4, then went up 160 to Sacramento, former 16 to Woodland, 113 to Tudor, 99 to Yuba City, 20 across the Feather River, and then finally 70 (including a now submerged routing near Oroville Dam). After El Centro Boulevard was constructed in the 1950s, 24 in Sacramento instead followed 99 (later the I-5 corridor) and 70 to US 99E in Olivehurst near Marysville., before continuing north and then east along today's 70.
Most cogent to this thread: Essentially the Walnut Creek-Concord corridor was some form of concurrency (24/21, then 24/680) from about the late 1930s to 1990.
Quote from: jdbx on April 02, 2021, 01:47:47 PM
Quote from: TheStranger on April 02, 2021, 11:14:35 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 02, 2021, 09:38:46 AM
Quote from: mrsman on April 02, 2021, 07:48:19 AM
Quote from: jdbx on March 22, 2021, 12:33:40 PM
CA-242 is kind of a button-copy museum. It was widened and had much of the signage replaced in the late 90's, and nearly every BGS is still button copy to this day.
There is still a greenout over the old CA-24 shield from when the freeway was renumbered around 1987:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9853606,-122.0409733,3a,75y,18.77h,77.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOVspqlEZIa3QXWqYOlZxIg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
There is also a kind of unusual pull-through sign southbound where, instead of being signed as CA-242, it is "TO CA-24". This sign was installed in the late 90's and I can only assume it is a relic of the previous numbering.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.98369,-122.0416546,3a,75y,173.03h,96.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snLArWxZxu7gL2Isn5NK77A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Why was that section of 24 renumbered to 242? In my mind, having one consistent corridor from Oakland to Concord with one number would be easier than having to remember 24-680-242. I know CA doesn't like multiplexing routes, but the multiplex here isn't that long.
24 has a planned reroute east of I-680 which was never built. You can see it on this 1964 DOH map, it would have ended at 4 near Antioch:
http://www.davidrumsey.com/ll/thumbnailView.html?startUrl=%2F%2Fwww.davidrumsey.com%2Fluna%2Fservlet%2Fas%2Fsearch%3Fos%3D0%26lc%3DRUMSEY~8~1%26q%3DCALTRANs%201964%26sort%3DPub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No%26bs%3D10#?c=0&m=0&s=0&cv=0&r=0&xywh=1625%2C7379%2C965%2C1581
To add on to that:
242 was essentially a paper designation from 1964-1990 or so (similar to 164 along 19 in Pasadena, or 51 for Business 80 in Sacramento), with 24 concurrent with 680 (some evidence of this concurrency can be seen in BGS greenout near the 680/24 junction) and then running up 242 to 4.
I suspect part of the reason for the truncation of 24 back to Walnut Creek is for ease of identifying the two separate freeways in traffic reports, with 242 being considered a short north-south connector.
There is still a surviving sign from the multiplex days in Pleasant Hill on Contra Costa Blvd near Boyd Road that never got the greenout treatment:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9440155,-122.0606065,3a,75y,206.68h,92.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWbhyk8XPnatfKwdp90QvtA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Several signs in the area also sport the greenout, all of which are at least 30-35 years old:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9332831,-122.0569202,3a,75y,267.43h,83.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWajdsGnkQftuHRsKiulZVg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9262908,-122.0612698,3a,75y,102.15h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s22knwtyChih3CLlAL3SEiQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
While the multiplex was only in the Walnut Creek area, I would contend that any mention of a control of Oakland that exists on 680 (which there seems to be signs of such on the highway or on streets that approach the highway south of the Benicia Bridge), 242, and CA-4 (which seems to have signage for Oakland as far as Antioch) in some way denotes the existence of the 242-680-24 as a single corridor (and thus hints to the historic signage of 24).
And that is a good thing, the 242 road is still the road to Oakland, even though it is basically confined to the Concord city limits. Control cities are to be used to help the motoring public and letting them know how to get to the major cities is helpful, even if the individual roads no longer get them there directly because of a renumbering. One can follow the controls and be guided along 242-680-24 to eventually reach the 980/580/24 interchange with guidance to Downtown Oakland, SF, or Hayward.
On a similar note, I-210 used to end at the Kellogg interchange (I-10/57/71) just west of Pomona. From that interchange the control signage was I-210 west to Pasadena. Of course with the CA-210 extension to the east, this part of I-210 is now a northern extension of CA-57. AFAIK, this northern stretch of CA-57 has no control city. I would argue that it would be helpful to re-include Pasadena as a control here on NB CA-57 from all approaches (except I-10 EB as it would be backtracking), especially as there is no good freeway connector to get to Pasadena further west. [I-605 exists, but it points to the northeast, not northwest so it would not be efficient.] Despite the renumbering, the road will still get you to Pasadena.
If you look at 3:28 and 3:37 of Asphalt Planets video of CA-210 this is where Caltrans last known Button Copy's were attached on BGS Gantries around the early 2000's time frame
https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-210ed_ca.html (https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-210ed_ca.html)
https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-210wa_ca.html (https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-210wa_ca.html)
https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-210ec_ca.html (https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-210ec_ca.html)
https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-210wb_ca.html (https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-210wb_ca.html)
Here is a gallery of the CA-210 where it was notable for being one of the places with the last installed button copy sign on the BGS and also one of the the first to have a retro reflective BGS Signs on California freeways in the early 2000's
Here's an interchange sequence sign from northbound I-405 near Van Nuys. 4/9/21; traffic stopped due to emergency pothole repair.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51107245797_4bc5bef2a2_z.jpg)
Quote from: bing101 on April 04, 2021, 08:28:43 PM
If you look at 3:28 and 3:37 of Asphalt Planets video of CA-210 this is where Caltrans last known Button Copy's were attached on BGS Gantries around the early 2000's time frame
https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-210ed_ca.html (https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-210ed_ca.html)
https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-210wa_ca.html (https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-210wa_ca.html)
https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-210ec_ca.html (https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-210ec_ca.html)
https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-210wb_ca.html (https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-210wb_ca.html)
Here is a gallery of the CA-210 where it was notable for being one of the places with the last installed button copy sign on the BGS and also one of the the first to have a retro reflective BGS Signs on California freeways in the early 2000's
Near as I could tell, the first conversions of button copy signs to reflective signs happened a year or two before the exit numbering system was implemented (in 2002). So I believe the modern batch of reflective signs first came around 1999 or 2000.
The first places I saw them installed in large quantities from that early timeframe included a section of SR 99 near downtown Fresno, US 101 near downtown San Francisco, and the installation of replacement pull-through Martin Luther King, Jr. Freeway signs along SR 94 through San Diego into Lemon Grove. This generation of signage was notable since there weren't exit numbers yet were reflective.
Along the last freeways I saw with pre-2000 button copy guide signs included SR 210 near the I-15 interchange, SR 15 through City Heights in San Diego, and SR 125 between SR 54 and SR 94. Many of these signs have since been replaced with reflective guide signs due to subsequent sign replacement projects.
As noted earlier, most button copy signs in San Diego have been replaced, and in recent travels through the Los Angeles area, many more have been replaced there too ... but many examples of button copy still remain at least for now.
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Quote from: SkyPesos on March 14, 2021, 08:07:53 PM
Is this thread for CA only or are we expanding it to all states?
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6539.0
We had a thread of button copy in the general highway talk.
Quote from: bing101 on April 15, 2021, 10:36:39 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 14, 2021, 08:07:53 PM
Is this thread for CA only or are we expanding it to all states?
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6539.0
We had a thread of button copy in the general highway talk.
It's in Pacific SW so let's see that NV and HI button copy!
Quote from: Alps on April 16, 2021, 01:27:13 AM
It's in Pacific SW so let's see that NV and HI button copy!
Alas, to my knowledge, there's only one button copy sign left in the entire state of Nevada. It's the sign in the median of Las Vegas Blvd near Circus Circus which northbound points straight ahead to Downtown and southbound formerly showed outlined US 91 & US 466 shields (long since scraped off).
Quote from: roadfro on April 17, 2021, 03:46:49 AM
Quote from: Alps on April 16, 2021, 01:27:13 AM
It's in Pacific SW so let's see that NV and HI button copy!
Alas, to my knowledge, there's only one button copy sign left in the entire state of Nevada. It's the sign in the median of Las Vegas Blvd near Circus Circus which northbound points straight ahead to Downtown and southbound formerly showed outlined US 91 & US 466 shields (long since scraped off).
I was curious enough to look for this on GSV. Enjoy!
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1393719,-115.1602553,3a,37.5y,174.83h,105.15t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sCXmIrWskB8p8oKycMKm0-g!2e0!5s20200301T000000!7i16384!8i8192
Quote from: mrsman on April 19, 2021, 10:45:18 AM
Quote from: roadfro on April 17, 2021, 03:46:49 AM
Quote from: Alps on April 16, 2021, 01:27:13 AM
It's in Pacific SW so let's see that NV and HI button copy!
Alas, to my knowledge, there's only one button copy sign left in the entire state of Nevada. It's the sign in the median of Las Vegas Blvd near Circus Circus which northbound points straight ahead to Downtown and southbound formerly showed outlined US 91 & US 466 shields (long since scraped off).
I was curious enough to look for this on GSV. Enjoy!
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1393719,-115.1602553,3a,37.5y,174.83h,105.15t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sCXmIrWskB8p8oKycMKm0-g!2e0!5s20200301T000000!7i16384!8i8192
Apologies, I should have posted a link... especially because I had to search quickly for the exact location before I posted.