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Title: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: kernals12 on April 13, 2021, 07:39:23 AM
Since 1974, most of the beltway surrounding Boston has been designated as either I-95 or I-93. But we still refer to it using that famous 3 digit number it was bestowed when it was first opened in 1951: 128. We even refer to the part east of Canton that officially lost the 128 designation in 1997 as 128. That designation was immortalized in the 80s by Governor Michael Dukakis who advertised it as "America's Technology Highway", a rival to Silicon Valley. Are there any other interstates that are more commonly referred to by their state route number?
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 13, 2021, 07:42:42 AM
I-238 which was and effectively still is CA 238.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: oscar on April 13, 2021, 07:52:11 AM
Interstate H-201 is sometimes referred to by its former state route number Hawaii 78, though more often by its name Moanalua Freeway, since Hawaiians prefer route names to route numbers.

This goes double for the unsigned Interstates of Alaska, another state that doesn't pay much attention to route numbers of any kind.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: kernals12 on April 13, 2021, 08:03:47 AM
128 is also unique among freeways of its type in that hardly anyone refers to it by its name: Yankee Division Highway.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: SkyPesos on April 13, 2021, 08:53:51 AM
Since all interstates in Ohio are internally logged as state route numbers and I hear a lot of people calling them just by the number (without the 'I-' in front of it), I guess all of them :)

For interstate highways that are better known by the US route number, US 40 (I-64) in St Louis comes to mind.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: webny99 on April 13, 2021, 09:18:05 AM
In NY: 390, 590, and 690  :-P
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: kenarmy on April 13, 2021, 10:21:44 AM
Although MS 15 no longer overlaps with I-110, I know people that still call it that.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 13, 2021, 10:42:43 AM
Not a state route, but hidden I-595 as US 50.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: jmacswimmer on April 13, 2021, 11:14:02 AM
I wonder if anyone ever refers to I-370 as MD 200 following the completion of the ICC.

(I personally think it would make more sense to have one uniform number, whether 200 or 370, instead of the current change at the Shady Grove Metro interchange, but that's neither here nor there.)
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: 1995hoo on April 13, 2021, 11:27:38 AM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on April 13, 2021, 11:14:02 AM
I wonder if anyone ever refers to I-370 as MD 200 following the completion of the ICC.

(I personally think it would make more sense to have one uniform number, whether 200 or 370, instead of the current change at the Shady Grove Metro interchange, but that's neither here nor there.)

I can't say as I've ever heard many people refer to MD-200 at all. Everyone I've ever heard referring to it calls it "the ICC" (or, if clarification is needed, "the Intercounty Connector").
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: roadman65 on April 13, 2021, 11:55:51 AM
In NJ when I lived there called I-80 and ai-287 as Route 80 or Route 287.   That is why NJ is one that don't like duplicate route numbers despite designations like Florida or Texas does.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: hbelkins on April 13, 2021, 03:01:34 PM
KY 841 for I-265.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: Scott5114 on April 13, 2021, 03:16:30 PM
I think there's some technicality which makes the Creek Turnpike an unnumbered Interstate, which would mean it is better known by what's actually signed, SH-364 (although I think everyone still calls it the Creek Turnpike). bugo would know better than me.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: Konza on April 13, 2021, 04:32:33 PM
I-290 in the northwest Chicago suburbs where it is multiplexed with Illinois 53.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: GaryV on April 13, 2021, 04:33:58 PM
Even before the number was hidden, I'm sure US-131* was more popular than I-296.

* I know, it's not a "State" number.  But it's the same concept.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: bzakharin on April 13, 2021, 09:39:42 PM
I-76 is known as the 42 freeway in New Jersey even though NJ 42 never extended that far north
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: Ricw24 on April 15, 2021, 07:31:45 PM
I-69/US 59 in Houston is an example.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: sprjus4 on April 15, 2021, 07:45:34 PM
While US-64 outside of Raleigh was recently designated as I-87 a few years ago, it's still commonly referred to as either US-64 / I-87 or solely US-64.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 15, 2021, 08:19:28 PM
I've heard people incorrectly refer to I-88 as "I-5" as the route used to be IL-5.

IL-53 and I-290 is a perfect example in Chicagoland, as previously mentioned.

I-794 and WI-794, does that count?
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: skluth on April 15, 2021, 08:29:37 PM
It's a US number, but US 40 became I-64 a couple decades ago and almost nobody local refers to it as I-64. It wouldn't be half as annoying if the older locals also didn't pronounce it "Highway Farty." Yes, they also pronounce the similarly-numbered interstate "farty-far." The local accent also puts an "r" in wash to make it "warsh." Two local speech habits I'm glad I never acquired in 30 years living there.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: bing101 on April 16, 2021, 01:08:50 AM
CA-110 and CA-210 are well referenced but that's due to half of their route also having an interstate designation. This is how "The 210 freeway" , "The 110" in LA has no highway designation in its name.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: Bickendan on April 16, 2021, 01:17:29 AM
Possibly the only one in Oregon would be I-105 because of OR 126's overlap and extension into Sprinfield.
But I suspect local vernacular would be 105 for Eugene, 126 for Springfield.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: SkyPesos on April 16, 2021, 01:30:59 AM
Quote from: skluth on April 15, 2021, 08:29:37 PM
It's a US number, but US 40 became I-64 a couple decades ago and almost nobody local refers to it as I-64. It wouldn't be half as annoying if the older locals also didn't pronounce it "Highway Farty." Yes, they also pronounce the similarly-numbered interstate "farty-far." The local accent also puts an "r" in wash to make it "warsh." Two local speech habits I'm glad I never acquired in 30 years living there.
I heard someone calling a highway in St Louis "˜I-40' once, and didn't know if it was an error for US 40 or I-44 without context, but it was for US 40. I call it both ways, but been seeing myself say "˜I-64' more than "˜US 40' or "˜40/61' on the multiplexed section lately.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: Henry on April 16, 2021, 08:04:09 PM
Quote from: oscar on April 13, 2021, 07:52:11 AM
This goes double for the unsigned Interstates of Alaska, another state that doesn't pay much attention to route numbers of any kind.
And even though it's a territory, the same goes for Puerto Rico.

Quote from: GaryV on April 13, 2021, 04:33:58 PM
Even before the number was hidden, I'm sure US-131* was more popular than I-296.

* I know, it's not a "State" number.  But it's the same concept.

The quintessential example of this is I-595 on the US 50 freeway east of DC. Then again, this has to be true of every freeway that has an unsigned Interstate designation.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: SkyPesos on April 16, 2021, 08:11:17 PM
Quote from: Henry on April 16, 2021, 08:04:09 PM
Quote from: oscar on April 13, 2021, 07:52:11 AM
This goes double for the unsigned Interstates of Alaska, another state that doesn't pay much attention to route numbers of any kind.
And even though it's a territory, the same goes for Puerto Rico.

Quote from: GaryV on April 13, 2021, 04:33:58 PM
Even before the number was hidden, I'm sure US-131* was more popular than I-296.

* I know, it's not a "State" number.  But it's the same concept.

The quintessential example of this is I-595 on the US 50 freeway east of DC. Then again, this has to be true of every freeway that has an unsigned Interstate designation.
I've seen official documents and maps call the short section of US 75 in downtown Dallas as I-345 even though it's unsigned, though not sure if people in Dallas generally call it I-345 over US 75.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: kphoger on April 16, 2021, 09:24:50 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on April 16, 2021, 08:11:17 PM
I've seen official documents and maps call the short section of US 75 in downtown Dallas as I-345 even though it's unsigned, though not sure if people in Dallas generally call it I-345 over US 75.

It's not signed as I-345, is it?  Why would locals call it by a number that doesn't show up on any signs?
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: Scott5114 on April 16, 2021, 09:32:01 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2021, 09:24:50 PM
Why would locals call it by a number that doesn't show up on any signs?

something something Boston, something 128
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: kphoger on April 16, 2021, 09:37:32 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 16, 2021, 09:32:01 PM

Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2021, 09:24:50 PM
Why would locals call it by a number that doesn't show up on any signs?

something something Boston, something 128

Yes, I knew the answer would have nothing to do with Dallas.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: Big John on April 16, 2021, 10:21:39 PM
I have had instances of Dallas locals refer US 75 as I-75 and they did not like me telling them that I-75 does not enter Texas.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: Scott5114 on April 16, 2021, 10:31:39 PM
Quote from: Big John on April 16, 2021, 10:21:39 PM
I have had instances of Dallas locals refer US 75 as I-75 and they did not like me telling them that I-75 does not enter Texas.

I'm not surprised. Dallas locals generally don't like you telling them that places other than Texas exist.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: SkyPesos on April 16, 2021, 11:04:44 PM
Quote from: Big John on April 16, 2021, 10:21:39 PM
I have had instances of Dallas locals refer US 75 as I-75 and they did not like me telling them that I-75 does not enter Texas.
I'll call Dallas 'Detroit' too then. Both cities start with the same letter, like how I-75 and US 75 have the same number  :)
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: jp the roadgeek on April 17, 2021, 06:46:12 PM
There are some in NJ who still call the portion of I-78 between the GSP and NJTP "Route 24"

And I'm sure there are many who still refer to the Northeast Extension as PA 9.

Not many left who refer to the portion of I-84 between East Hartford and Sturbridge as Route 15, but more people refer to the 5/15 overlap (especially north of where it leaves the Berlin Turnpike) as Route 15
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: kernals12 on April 17, 2021, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 16, 2021, 09:32:01 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2021, 09:24:50 PM
Why would locals call it by a number that doesn't show up on any signs?

something something Boston, something 128

Except it is signed 128.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: vdeane on April 17, 2021, 10:17:19 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 17, 2021, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 16, 2021, 09:32:01 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2021, 09:24:50 PM
Why would locals call it by a number that doesn't show up on any signs?

something something Boston, something 128

Except it is signed 128.
MassDOT may have some ground-level signage, but it's easy to miss and clearly less prominent than I-95.  It's obviously intended to appease the locals more than anything else, and I'm not sure if even MassDOT took it seriously prior to the mile-based exit number conversion.
Title: Re: Interstate Highways better known by their State Route Number?
Post by: kernals12 on April 18, 2021, 09:20:35 AM
Quote from: vdeane on April 17, 2021, 10:17:19 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 17, 2021, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 16, 2021, 09:32:01 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2021, 09:24:50 PM
Why would locals call it by a number that doesn't show up on any signs?

something something Boston, something 128

Except it is signed 128.
MassDOT may have some ground-level signage, but it's easy to miss and clearly less prominent than I-95.  It's obviously intended to appease the locals more than anything else, and I'm not sure if even MassDOT took it seriously prior to the mile-based exit number conversion.

It was fun over the summer when, for work, my colleague from Central Mass was told by the GPS to go on 128, and I had to explain to him that 128 and 95 are the same freeway.