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Title: False Arch Bridges
Post by: bugo on May 31, 2010, 04:47:39 PM
There's no bridge category so I'll post it here.  Has anyone ever heard of a false arch bridge?  There's one in Minot, ND.  The arches are not structural.  The bridge is a cantilevered deck open spandrel arch.  The arches above the substructure are ornamental only.  The bridge was built this way because the town wanted a Marsh rainbow arch bridge but didn't want to pay the Marsh company patent fees.  So they built it this way.  It's a very unique bridge.  Are there any other false arch bridges in the US and A?

Here's the link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/watuzi/sets/72157623035010748/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/watuzi/sets/72157623035010748/)
Title: Re: False Arch Bridges
Post by: vdeane on May 31, 2010, 06:52:17 PM
I suspect the arches on the Troop-Howell bridge in Rochester, NY are just for looks.  The modern bridge replaced a simple beam bridge that is otherwise identical to it.
Title: Re: False Arch Bridges
Post by: Duke87 on May 31, 2010, 08:42:14 PM
A few of the Merritt Parkway's famous bridges are like that. The underside is flat, the "arch" is just a shape formed by panels on the sides.
Title: Re: False Arch Bridges
Post by: bugo on June 08, 2015, 06:03:40 PM
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Title: Re: False Arch Bridges
Post by: cl94 on June 08, 2015, 08:16:53 PM
Since this thread was bumped...

Quote from: vdeane on May 31, 2010, 06:52:17 PM
I suspect the arches on the Troop-Howell bridge in Rochester, NY are just for looks.  The modern bridge replaced a simple beam bridge that is otherwise identical to it.

Beams are way too shallow for the arches to not be structural on that bridge.

Maybe this deserves its own topic, but what about false cable-stayed bridges? Franklin County (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.009892,-83.251712,3a,75y,253.3h,99.53t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1snn86DngmtjFfEO2pnW85hw!2e0), Ohio has two (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.005911,-83.023469,3a,21.2y,62.45h,89.24t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sJy21F6Yn65U60B6koSaByQ!2e0).
Title: Re: False Arch Bridges
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on June 11, 2015, 12:40:40 PM
Quote from: cl94 on June 08, 2015, 08:16:53 PM
Since this thread was bumped...

Quote from: vdeane on May 31, 2010, 06:52:17 PM
I suspect the arches on the Troop-Howell bridge in Rochester, NY are just for looks.  The modern bridge replaced a simple beam bridge that is otherwise identical to it.

Beams are way too shallow for the arches to not be structural on that bridge.

Maybe this deserves its own topic, but what about false cable-stayed bridges? Franklin County (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.009892,-83.251712,3a,75y,253.3h,99.53t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1snn86DngmtjFfEO2pnW85hw!2e0), Ohio has two (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.005911,-83.023469,3a,21.2y,62.45h,89.24t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sJy21F6Yn65U60B6koSaByQ!2e0).

Isn't these two overpasses in Cincinnati false cable-stayed bridges?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.099107,-84.509162,3a,75y,170.27h,92.89t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s5ps0FeDHzyf889QDL8UiMA!2e0
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.097429,-84.515474,3a,75y,14.87h,92.48t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sTx2hqMwpr4UIoGcWE_DiHg!2e0
Title: Re: False Arch Bridges
Post by: Duke87 on June 12, 2015, 01:00:48 AM
An example of the Merritt Parkway bridges I mentioned before:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.126956,-73.467542,3a,75y,36.61h,94.45t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sHMaounlKSnzfCIpUKtNg0Q!2e0

It's made to look like an arch when viewed while approaching, but the curved form is just non-structural concrete plates. One of them on this bridge was missing for several years.