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Title: Beelines
Post by: bugo on May 31, 2010, 10:34:06 PM
"Beeline" is a cool word.  Kinda like "ruin" and "viaduct."  A segment of US 75 in Oklahoma is called the "Okmulgee Beeline" because it was a more direct route from Tulsa to Okmulgee than the original route of US 75, which is now Alt US 75.  I seem to remember a highway in Florida being called a beeline.  Are there any other roads in the US or abroad called beelines?
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: Ian on May 31, 2010, 10:54:49 PM
Florida's Beeline Expressway is the only one I know of, but now its called the Beachline.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: bugo on May 31, 2010, 10:56:43 PM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on May 31, 2010, 10:54:49 PM
Florida's Beeline Expressway is the only one I know of, but now its called the Beachline.

Beachline?  That's fucking stupid.  What is a "beachline" anyway?  Typical idiotic renaming of a highway (Kentucky: I'm looking at YOU) that already had a perfectly serviceable name.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: Alex on May 31, 2010, 11:06:44 PM
Florida still has the State Road 710 Bee Line Highway leading southeast from the Lake Okeechobee area to the coast.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: Mr_Northside on June 01, 2010, 12:19:24 PM
I'd figure a "Beachline" would be similar to a shoreline.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: florida on June 01, 2010, 04:51:41 PM
Quote from: bugo on May 31, 2010, 10:56:43 PM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on May 31, 2010, 10:54:49 PM
Florida's Beeline Expressway is the only one I know of, but now its called the Beachline.

Beachline?  That's fucking stupid.  What is a "beachline" anyway?  Typical idiotic renaming of a highway (Kentucky: I'm looking at YOU) that already had a perfectly serviceable name.

I agree. It was renamed to "bring tourism" to "Orlando's Beach" (aka Cocoa Beach).
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on June 01, 2010, 05:24:30 PM
Quote from: Mr_Northside on June 01, 2010, 12:19:24 PM
I'd figure a "Beachline" would be similar to a shoreline.

Or tan line(s) <ducks>
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: FLRoads on June 01, 2010, 06:05:14 PM
Quote from: florida on June 01, 2010, 04:51:41 PM
Quote from: bugo on May 31, 2010, 10:56:43 PM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on May 31, 2010, 10:54:49 PM
Florida's Beeline Expressway is the only one I know of, but now its called the Beachline.

Beachline?  That's fucking stupid.  What is a "beachline" anyway?  Typical idiotic renaming of a highway (Kentucky: I'm looking at YOU) that already had a perfectly serviceable name.

I agree. It was renamed to "bring tourism" to "Orlando's Beach" (aka Cocoa Beach).

And most locals still refer to it as the "Beeline". Hell, I remember listening to traffic reports like a year or so after the "renaming" and even they were still calling it the "Beeline" when they didn't refer to it as "the 528"
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: Ian on June 01, 2010, 10:00:51 PM
I honestly think the Beeline was a better name for Toll FL 528 in my opinion, since it was basically a straight (somewhat) bee line from Orlando to the beaches. The Beachline would sound better if it were running along the beach itself.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: deathtopumpkins on June 01, 2010, 11:08:04 PM
I'm not exactly sure why, but according to Google Maps AZ-87 is labeled as the "Beeline Hwy" north of its junction with Loop 202 heading out of Phoenix. Signage for the exit on 202 refer to it as Country Club Dr., the name the road is labeled as south of the freeway.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: corco on June 01, 2010, 11:12:21 PM
According to the official Arizona map, it gets the name "Beeline Hwy" as soon as it leaves Mesa and keeps the designation all the way to Payson. There's a Beeline Cafe at the northern terminus in Payson. I'm not quite sure why that name came into existence- that would be interesting to know.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: bugo on June 01, 2010, 11:14:37 PM
So we have 3 beelines so far.  Does that make it the rarest road designation in the country? 
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: TheStranger on June 01, 2010, 11:18:42 PM
Not sure if "Calle" is used beyond "Calle Real" in the Santa Barbara area...

"Camino" as in "El Camino Real" IS used elsewhere (speciifcally, Camino Capistrano).
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: agentsteel53 on June 01, 2010, 11:22:34 PM
Quote from: TheStranger on June 01, 2010, 11:18:42 PM
Not sure if "Calle" is used beyond "Calle Real" in the Santa Barbara area...

I know there's a lot in California but I can't remember exactly where offhand.  It is, after all, Spanish for "street" - not very unusual a designation.

type in the word "calle" in Google Maps and it'll auto-complete at least 10 more possibilities.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: bugo on June 01, 2010, 11:46:35 PM
The "Okmulgee Beeline" name has somewhat fallen from use but it is still used.  There are some businesses along the road that are named Beeline Smoke Shop, Beeline Truck and Trailer, etc.  And Google Maps somewhat incorrectly has the road labeled as "Okmulgee Bee Line Expressway."  Everyone I know just calls it "Highway 75."
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: huskeroadgeek on June 02, 2010, 12:10:11 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on June 01, 2010, 11:18:42 PM
Not sure if "Calle" is used beyond "Calle Real" in the Santa Barbara area...

"Camino" as in "El Camino Real" IS used elsewhere (speciifcally, Camino Capistrano).
Along this same line, Nebraska City, Ne, has an odd designation for some of their streets. E-W streets in the southern half of town are designated as a numbered "corso". I have never seen a "corso" anywhere else. "Corso" is Italian for course, or street. Why they use this I don't know-there is not and never has been any significant grouping of Italian-Americans in the area.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: Scott5114 on June 02, 2010, 02:05:41 AM
One would be remiss for not mentioning the Kansas City area's "trafficways".

Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: TheStranger on June 02, 2010, 02:44:53 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 02, 2010, 02:05:41 AM
One would be remiss for not mentioning the Kansas City area's "trafficways".



Along the US 101 corridor in Southern California, there's a couple of streets flat out named "Traffic Way", though not quite the same appendage as the Kansas City usage.

Isn't "The Paseo" (former US 71 if I'm not mistaken) in KC another unique street name?

California has several examples of "Alameda" in street context (Route 82 in San Jose as "The Alameda" and the street "Alameda De Las Pulgas" in San Mateo County), and IIRC, a couple of "Esplande" streets somewhere.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: bugo on June 02, 2010, 03:18:09 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on June 02, 2010, 02:44:53 AM
Along the US 101 corridor in Southern California, there's a couple of streets flat out named "Traffic Way", though not quite the same appendage as the Kansas City usage.

There's a Heavy Traffic Way in downtown Tulsa.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: national highway 1 on June 02, 2010, 03:52:17 AM
Quote from: huskeroadgeek on June 02, 2010, 12:10:11 AM
Along this same line, Nebraska City, Ne, has an odd designation for some of their streets. E-W streets in the southern half of town are designated as a numbered "corso". I have never seen a "corso" anywhere else. "Corso" is Italian for course, or street. Why they use this I don't know-there is not and never has been any significant grouping of Italian-Americans in the area.

In Manly, Sydney, NSW Australia, there is a street called The Corso.

[Fixed mangled quotes. -S.]
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: realjd on June 02, 2010, 08:53:27 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on June 01, 2010, 11:18:42 PM
Not sure if "Calle" is used beyond "Calle Real" in the Santa Barbara area...

"Camino" as in "El Camino Real" IS used elsewhere (speciifcally, Camino Capistrano).

"Calle" is used informally in Miami. The Little Havana area is along SW 8th St, or "Calle Ocho".

"Calle" means street, "camino" means road or highway. Camino was historically used for long roads between areas (like El Camino Real, "The Royal Road") while calle was typically used for smaller roads within a city.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: deathtopumpkins on June 02, 2010, 08:34:46 PM
How's this for interesting?

"Boulevard" No name, just "Boulevard." (Richmond, VA)

"Road St." (abbreviated "Rd St" on signs - Elizabeth City, NC)
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: Ian on June 02, 2010, 09:45:08 PM
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on June 02, 2010, 08:34:46 PM
"Road St." (abbreviated "Rd St" on signs - Elizabeth City, NC)

There is the opposite, Street Rd. (PA 132) in Philadelphia's northern suburbs.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: Scott5114 on June 02, 2010, 10:00:09 PM
I can't remember how or why it was determined, but some GPS voice generators will read St. St. as "Saint Street" and "Dr. Dr." as "Doctor Drive".
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: agentsteel53 on June 02, 2010, 10:18:30 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 02, 2010, 10:00:09 PM
I can't remember how or why it was determined, but some GPS voice generators will read St. St. as "Saint Street" and "Dr. Dr." as "Doctor Drive".

it's all about word order.  The leading "Dr." is assumed to be "doctor" simply because of where it sits in the phrase to be read.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: Duke87 on June 02, 2010, 10:55:18 PM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on June 02, 2010, 09:45:08 PM
There is the opposite, Street Rd. (PA 132) in Philadelphia's northern suburbs.

PA 926 in Chester County, too.


As for "Esplanade", there's one of those in Pelham Manor, NY (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=New+York&ll=40.895219,-73.806281&spn=0.007769,0.01929&z=16). One down in The Bronx, too, according to the street signs - although officially it's Esplanade Avenue.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: hm insulators on June 03, 2010, 06:23:56 PM
Quote from: corco on June 01, 2010, 11:12:21 PM
According to the official Arizona map, it gets the name "Beeline Hwy" as soon as it leaves Mesa and keeps the designation all the way to Payson. There's a Beeline Cafe at the northern terminus in Payson. I'm not quite sure why that name came into existence- that would be interesting to know.

When Beeline Highway was built in the 1950s, it was called that because it dramatically shortened the time necessary to drive to Payson on the winding old Bush Highway (part of which I think was dirt!). In the last fifteen or twenty years, the two-lane Beeline Highway was widened and straightened so now it's a beautiful four-lane highway all the way from Mesa to Payson.

On another subject: for you "Esplanade" fans, Redondo Beach, California has one running right along the ocean.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: yanksfan6129 on June 03, 2010, 07:58:05 PM
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on June 02, 2010, 08:34:46 PM
How's this for interesting?

"Boulevard" No name, just "Boulevard." (Richmond, VA)

"Road St." (abbreviated "Rd St" on signs - Elizabeth City, NC)

Mountain Lakes, NJ (right outside of my own town) has "Boulevard"---it's a nice little road.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: mapman1071 on June 08, 2010, 11:41:30 PM
Phoenix Has A Lane Ave and W North Ln/E North Ln
also "Air Line"
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: 74/171FAN on June 09, 2010, 10:01:08 AM
Quote from: yanksfan6129 on June 03, 2010, 07:58:05 PM
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on June 02, 2010, 08:34:46 PM
How's this for interesting?

"Boulevard" No name, just "Boulevard." (Richmond, VA)

"Road St." (abbreviated "Rd St" on signs - Elizabeth City, NC)

Mountain Lakes, NJ (right outside of my own town) has "Boulevard"---it's a nice little road.
US 1/US 301 in Colonial Heights, VA is also just "Boulevard".
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: xcellntbuy on June 09, 2010, 10:05:30 AM
"Boulevard" is also a city street in Kingston, NY and "Water Street Road" is a rural road in Columbia County, NY.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: national highway 1 on June 10, 2010, 02:26:11 AM
There is this road in Richmond, NSW called The Driftway.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: yakra on June 10, 2010, 03:11:12 PM
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on June 02, 2010, 08:34:46 PM
How's this for interesting?

"Boulevard" No name, just "Boulevard." (Richmond, VA)

"Road St." (abbreviated "Rd St" on signs - Elizabeth City, NC)
Just plain "Parkway" (Bethel, ME)
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: yakra on June 10, 2010, 03:15:20 PM
Maine also has the Air Line Road (http://www.floodgap.com/roadgap/me/namers.html), Route 9 east of Bangor. The etymology here is that the Air Line is a fast & direct route -- a beeline -- between Bangor & Calais.
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: bugo on June 10, 2010, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: yakra on June 10, 2010, 03:15:20 PM
Maine also has the Air Line Road (http://www.floodgap.com/roadgap/me/namers.html), Route 9 east of Bangor. The etymology here is that the Air Line is a fast & direct route -- a beeline -- between Bangor & Calais.

Is that how Airline Highway (US 61) in Louisiana got its name?
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on June 11, 2010, 06:22:22 PM
Quote from: bugo on June 10, 2010, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: yakra on June 10, 2010, 03:15:20 PM
Maine also has the Air Line Road (http://www.floodgap.com/roadgap/me/namers.html), Route 9 east of Bangor. The etymology here is that the Air Line is a fast & direct route -- a beeline -- between Bangor & Calais.

Is that how Airline Highway (US 61) in Louisiana got its name?

Pretty much
Title: Re: Beelines
Post by: mightyace on June 11, 2010, 07:33:44 PM
Quote from: yakra on June 10, 2010, 03:15:20 PM
Maine also has the Air Line Road (http://www.floodgap.com/roadgap/me/namers.html), Route 9 east of Bangor. The etymology here is that the Air Line is a fast & direct route -- a beeline -- between Bangor & Calais.

Exactly.  It was also used in rail road parlance.  Part of the current CSX in the southeast along the Atlantic Coast was once the Seaboard Air Line Railroad.

Also, the track that is being bypassed in Chicago and may become a future highway is called the St. Charles Air Line.