Rank your state's border crossings by importance.
My opinion for Wisconsin's top 10:
1. I-41/94 at the IL border
2. I-39/90 at the IL border
3. I-94/US-12 at the MN border
4. I-90 at the MN border
5. US-61/151 at the IA border
6. I-535/US-53 at the MN border
7. US-41 at the MI border
8. US-12 at the IL border
9. US-14/61 at the MN border
10. US-2 at the MI border (in Ironwood)
California subjectively:
1. I-15 at the Nevada State Line
2. I-5 at the Oregon State Line
3. I-10/US 95 at the Arizona State Line
4. I-80 at the Nevada State Line
5. I-40 at the Arizona State Line
6. I-8 at the Arizona State Line
7. US 50 at the Nevada State Line
8. US 395 for passenger cars south of Reno but probably now CA 167 for freight.
9. US 95 at the Nevada State Line
10. US 199 at the Oregon State Line
11. CA 88 at the Nevada State Line
12. US 395 north of Reno.
13. US 101 from the Oregon State Line
14. CA 62 from the Arizona State Line
15. CA 28 from the Nevada State Line
MN, where I struggle to rank beyond #1.
1. I-94 at the WI border
2. MN 36/WIS 64
3. I-94 at the ND border
4. I-90 at the WI border
5. I-35 at the IA border
6. I-535 and US 2 WI crossings
For Indiana:
1. I-80/94 at IL
2. I-65 at KY
3. I-94 at MI
4. I-80/90 at OH
5. I-70 at OH
6. I-70 at IL
7. I-74 at OH
8. I-64 at KY
9. US 41 at KY
10. I-69 at MI
11. I-90 at IL
12. I-74 at IL
13. I-64 at IL
14. US 30 at OH
15. US 31 at MI
Quote from: cabiness42 on April 25, 2021, 04:34:17 PM
For Indiana:
1. I-80/94 at IL
2. I-65 at KY
3. I-94 at MI
4. I-80/90 at OH
5. I-70 at OH
6. I-70 at IL
7. I-74 at OH
8. I-64 at KY
9. US 41 at KY
10. I-69 at MI
11. I-90 at IL
12. I-74 at IL
13. I-64 at IL
14. US 30 at OH
15. US 31 at MI
No love for US 24 at OH on the Toledo/Fort Wayne route?
IN 10/IL 114 gets some traffic as an alternate to 80/94 for I-65 traffic, to jump over to I-57
I'm going to try (just interstates):
I-84 MA/CT
I-95 MA/NH
I-93 MA/NH
I-95 MA/RI
I-90 MA/NY
I-91 MA/CT
I-195 MA/RI
I-295 MA/RI
I-395 MA/CT
I-91 MA/VT
What about least important? Here are some non-OHV examples for California:
- Nipton Road on the Nevada State Line
- Needles Highway on the Nevada State Line
- K Street in the Arizona State Line
- CA 299 on the Nevada State Line
- Stateline Road on the Nevada State Line
- Daylight Pass Road on the Nevada State Line
- CA 266 on the Nevada State Line
- Anges Wilson Road on the Arizona State Line
- River Road (this is fun finding this one) on the Arizona State Line
- CA 182 on the Nevada State Line
- Red Rock Road on the Nevada State Line
- Surprise Valley Road on the Nevada State Line
- Barrel Springs Road on the Nevada State Line
- County Road 1 on the Oregon State Line
- All the roads leading to Goose Lake State Park in Oregon
- Anything entering Oregon from CA 161
- Hilt Road over the Oregon State Line
- Grayback Road to the Oregon State Line
I guess now that I think about it US 6, CA 139 and US 97 would all be a step down from the original 15 in terms of importance I posted above.
Ohio (2019 AADT for each crossing in parenthesis)
Interstate crossings and 4 lane divided US routes included. Most others are below 10k AADT.
I-71/I-75 KY (153k)
I-471 KY (107k)
I-275 KY (81k)
I-75 MI (58k)
US 23 MI (48k)
I-74 IN (45k)
I-470 WV (40k)
I-70 IN (36k)
US 22 WV (32,035)
I-275 IN (31,849)
I-80 PA (30k)
I-76 PA (26k)
I-90 PA (23,894)
I-70 WV (23,790)
US 35 WV (20,899)
I-80/90 IN (20,779)
I-77 WV (20,757)
US 52 WV (20,207)
US 30 IN (15,306)
US 24 IN (14,822)
US 50 WV (13k)
I'm actually surprised that I-80/90 at IN border ended up this low on the list, barely above I-77 WV as the second least used of the 14 interstate crossings. Thought it would be at least above the I-70 IN crossing.
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Ohio (2019 AADT for each crossing in parenthesis)
Interstate crossings and 4 lane divided US routes included. Most others are below 10k AADT.
I-71/I-75 KY (153k)
I-471 KY (107k)
I-275 KY (81k)
I-75 MI (58k)
US 23 MI (48k)
I-74 IN (45k)
I-470 WV (40k)
I-70 IN (36k)
US 22 WV (32,035)
I-275 IN (31,849)
I-80 PA (30k)
I-76 PA (26k)
I-90 PA (23,894)
I-70 WV (23,790)
I-80/90 IN (20,779)
I-77 WV (20,757)
US 35 WV (21k)
US 52 WV (20k)
US 24 IN (15k)
US 30 IN (15k)
US 50 WV (13k)
I'm actually surprised that I-80/90 at IN border ended up this low on the list, barely above I-77 WV as the second least used of the 14 interstate crossings. Thought it would be at least above the I-70 IN crossing.
Lots of trucks jump off at OH 15 and OH 49 and take US 20 into Indiana. But I don't think its enough to make a huge difference.
Also suspect US 24 takes some to the traffic from 80/90.
I'm not going to make a list of border crossings for MO right now, but the Poplar Street Bridge (I-55, I-64/US 40, and formerly I-70) is at the top of the list for the state.
I'll try my state (CT)
1. I-95 NY
2. I-84 MA
3. I-84 NY
4. I-91 MA
5. CT 15/HRP NY
6. Both I-684 NY crossings (odds are if cross one, you'll cross the other)
7. I-95 RI
8. US 6/202 NY
9. US 6 RI (though most traffic uses SR 695 before/after)
10. CT/MA 159 (seasonal for Six Flags)
11. I-395 MA
12. CT/RI 78 (seasonal for beach traffic)
13. Bridgeport/Port Jeff ferry
14. US 1 NY
15. CT/RI 101 (most direct from Hartford to Providence)
16. US 5 MA (if I-91 is backed up)
17. US 7 MA (back-way to Albany)
18. NY 120A (King St straddling the border between Rye Brook & Greenwich)
19. CT/MA 8 (another back-way to Albany)
20. CT/NY 35 (to avoid the 84/684 mess in Brewster)
21. US 1 CT/RI (more for local traffic)
22. Any of the various crossings in the Stamford/Greenwich area (eg CT/NY 123, CT/NY 137)
23. CT/MA 75 (especially during the Big E)
24. US 202 & CT/MA 10
25: US 44 NY
26: US 44 RI
27: CT/MA 12 (as an alternate to I-395)
28. CT/MA 131 (a shortcut from Putnam to Sturbridge)
29. Joe's Hill Rd/CR 54 NY (a secret backway from Danbury to NY 22)
30. CT/RI 14
The next 10 (in no particular order):
CT/RI 165
CT/RI 138
CT/MA 32
CT/MA 187
CT/MA 41
CT/MA 169 (scenic)
CT/MA 83
CT/MA 192
CT/MA 220
New London/Orient ferry
Here are Michigan's border crossings (2019):
State borders
I-75 OH: 55,667
US-23 OH: 52,492
I-94 IN: 45,616
US-41 WI: 26,839
I-69 IN: 25,445
US-31 IN: 20,925
M-51 IN: 14,409
M-66 IN: 10,778
M-62 IN: 10,286
US-24 OH: 9,928
US-131 IN: 8,565
US-12 IN: 8,147
US-141 WI (Niagara): 7,030
US-2/141 WI (Iron Mountain): 6,683
M-125 OH: 6,304
BUS US-2 WI: 5,435 (it jumps up dramatically from 1,859 just east of the crossing)
M-95 WI: 5,154
M-103 IN: 5,012
US-2 WI (Ironwood): 5,005
M-239 IN: 4,919
M-217 IN: 4,568
Memorial Hwy OH (former US-223 still maintained as an unsigned state trunkline): 3,311
US-2/141 WI (Crystal Falls): 2,803
M-52 OH: 2,627
US-127 OH: 2,336
M-99 OH: 2,236
US-45 WI: 2,138
US-8 WI: 1,661
M-156 OH: 1,491
M-189 WI: 1,081
M-49 OH: 1,051
M-64 WI: 552
M-73 WI: 408
The Canadian crossings don't have accurate AADT numbers, but here are their rankings in importance:
1. Ambassador Bridge
2. Blue Water Bridge
3. Detroit-Windsor Tunnel
4. International Bridge (Sault Ste. Marie)
The Howe Bridge will jump to #1 when it opens.
Bonus:
Major non-trunkline crossings (over 5,000 AADT)
Lewis Rd (Monroe County -> OH): 13,632
Gumwood Rd (Cass County -> IN): 6,021
Jackman Rd (Monroe County -> OH): 5,910
Cassopolis Rd/Old M-205 (Cass County -> IN): 5,542
Ironwood Rd (Cass County -> IN): 5,138
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I-75 OH: 55,667
US-23 OH: 52,492
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I-75 MI (58k)
US 23 MI (48k)
Interesting that our AADT numbers are off by a couple thousand for both routes. We both used 2019 data, and I'm assuming you also used the AADT point between the first/last exit in the state and the border.
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I-75 OH: 55,667
US-23 OH: 52,492
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I-75 MI (58k)
US 23 MI (48k)
Interesting that our AADT numbers are off by a couple thousand for both routes. We both used 2019 data, and I'm assuming you also used the AADT point between the first/last exit in the state and the border.
I did use 2019 data from just north of the state line.
For Maryland:
- I-95/495 at DC line (Wilson Bridge)
- I-95 at DE line
- I-495 at VA line (American Legion Bridge)
- I-68 at WV line
- I-70 at PA line
- I-81 at PA line
- I-83 at PA line
- I-81 at WV line
- I-295 at DC line
- US 301 at VA line
- US 50 at DC line
- MD 295 at DC line
- US 1 at PA line
- US 13 at VA line
- US 40 at DE line
- US 1 at DC line
- US 13 at DE line
- MD 404 at DE line
- US 15 at PA line
- US 219 at PA line
- US 301 at DE line
- US 340 at VA line
- US 29 at DC line
- US 40 at PA line
- US 220 at WV line
- US 11 at PA line
- US 113 at DE line
- US 15 at VA line
- US 222 at PA line
- US 522 at PA line
Honorable mentions:US 522 at WV line
MD 355 at DC line
US 11 at WV line
MD 97 at PA line
US 50 at WV line
US 50 at VA line
MD 4 at DC line
US 219 at WV line
MD 165 at PA line
MD 272 at PA line
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Nevada:
1. I-15 from California (47,000)
2. US 50 from California (27,400) (this includes a lot of pedestrian traffic too though)
3. I-80 from California (36,500)
4. I-15 from Arizona (24,000) (welcome, Utah)
5. I-11/US 93 from Arizona (20,500)
6. CA 28/NV 28 from California (12,900)
7. AZ 95/NV 163 from Arizona (30,500) (this number is fluffy because of a lot of local traffic in Laughlin/Bullhead City)
8. I-80 from Utah (5,850)
9. US 93 from Idaho (4,150)
10. US 95 from Oregon (Idaho) (2,750)
Edit: Being a Nevadan I tend to think of the "importance of border crossings" as "how much money visitors bring across the border at each crossing", so I ranked them intuitively that way. I did go back and add representative 2019 AADT, and for the most part there's a correspondence.
Quote from: ftballfan on April 25, 2021, 09:11:18 PM
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I-75 OH: 55,667
US-23 OH: 52,492
Quote from: SkyPesos on April 25, 2021, 05:40:02 PM
I-75 MI (58k)
US 23 MI (48k)
Interesting that our AADT numbers are off by a couple thousand for both routes. We both used 2019 data, and I'm assuming you also used the AADT point between the first/last exit in the state and the border.
I did use 2019 data from just north of the state line.
Probably just a difference in which day OH and MI did their counts.
Quote from: webny99 on April 25, 2021, 09:58:48 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on April 25, 2021, 09:11:18 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on April 25, 2021, 09:03:02 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on April 25, 2021, 08:57:11 PM
I-75 OH: 55,667
US-23 OH: 52,492
Quote from: SkyPesos on April 25, 2021, 05:40:02 PM
I-75 MI (58k)
US 23 MI (48k)
Interesting that our AADT numbers are off by a couple thousand for both routes. We both used 2019 data, and I'm assuming you also used the AADT point between the first/last exit in the state and the border.
I did use 2019 data from just north of the state line.
Probably just a difference in which day OH and MI did their counts.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that AADT is counted with the total number of vehicles that crossed over the AADT sensor (or whatever it uses) in a year, then divide that number by 365, hence the word "average". If that's the case, theoretically, there shouldn't be that big of a difference between AADT counts of that same road in two states.
Going to use AADT numbers for this since I feel like all our interstate border crossings are about the same importance level. This is every state-maintained road that crosses the Utah state line:
I-15 at AZ line: 25000
I-80 at WY line: 16000
I-15 at ID line: 12000
I-84 at ID line: 9800
US 91 at ID line: 8500
I-70 at CO line: 7700
I-80 at NV line: 7600
US 89A at AZ line: 5200
US 89 at AZ line: 4800
SR 59 at AZ line: 4400
US 40 at CO line: 3200
US 491 at CO line: 3100
US 89 at ID line: 2800
SR 58/BL-80 at NV line: 2600
US 163 at AZ line: 2500
SR 162 at CO line: 2000
US 191 at AZ line: 1900
SR 43 at WY line (east): 1700
SR 200 at ID line: 1400
SR 23 at ID line: 1300
SR 16 at WY line: 1300
US 191 at WY line: 1200
SR 43 at WY line (west): 1200
SR 30 at WY line: 780
SR 56 at NV line: 590
US 6/50 at NV line: 420
SR 46 at CO line: 420
SR 30 at NV line: 400
SR 150 at WY line: 350
SR 42 at ID line: 260
SR 21 at NV line: 170
FA 1364 at CO line (not state maintained in Utah, but connects to SH 318): 70
I was initially surprised to see US 91 higher than two Interstate crossings, but it does make sense as Logan is the closest good-size city for Franklin County and a good chunk of southeast Idaho.
EDIT: bolding the ones I've crossed myself because why not.
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I-75 OH: 55,667
US-23 OH: 52,492
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I-75 MI (58k)
US 23 MI (48k)
Interesting that our AADT numbers are off by a couple thousand for both routes. We both used 2019 data, and I'm assuming you also used the AADT point between the first/last exit in the state and the border.
I did use 2019 data from just north of the state line.
Probably just a difference in which day OH and MI did their counts.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that AADT is counted with the total number of vehicles that crossed over the AADT sensor (or whatever it uses), then divide that number by 365, hence the word "average". If that's the case, theoretically, there shouldn't be that big of a difference between AADT counts of that same road in two states.
It depends if it's a short count or an ongoing count. This could vary by state. Here in New York, our data is mostly short counts (data is usually collected over a period of 3-5 weekdays, with equipment set up at the beginning of the count and taken down at the end) except for a few select locations which gather data year-round.
Obviously, there's going to be some variation with short counts, say if Ohio collected their data in April and Michigan collected theirs in June. But even if one state uses ongoing counts, you'd need both to do so for the numbers to be exact, and even then, the exact time frame could skew it a bit. I'm honestly surprised the numbers are as close as they are. I wouldn't have batted an eyelash at an even larger difference.
Idahoooo
1. I-90 Washington
2. I-84 Oregon
3. I-15 Utah
4. I-84 Utah
5. US 91 Utah
6. US 95 Oregon
7. US 12 Washington
8. Idaho 8 Washington
9. Idaho 33 Wyoming
10. US 30 Oregon
Quote from: epzik8 on April 25, 2021, 09:19:09 PM
For Maryland:
3. I-68 at WV line
This seems a very high ranking for this crossing relative to other much more heavily traveled ones.
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5. I-70 at PA line
30. US 522 at PA line
I-70 and US 522 are multiplexed at the state line. These are the same crossing.
I'll try to do Illinois' just based on personal perception. Most of these are probably just crapshoots in no particular order.
1. I-80/I-94 with Indiana
2. I-94 with Wisconsin
3. I-270 with Missouri
4. I-39/I-90 with Wisconsin
5. I-70 with Indiana
6. I-90 with Indiana
7. I-74 with Indiana
8. I-80 with Iowa
9. US-20 with Iowa
10. I-64 with Kentucky
In the style of US89, here's Colorado by AADT:
1. I-25 Wyoming (23,000)
2. I-25 New Mexico (13,000)
3. I-70 Kansas (11,000)
4. I-76 Nebraska (9,900)
5. US550 New Mexico (9,100)
6. I-70 Utah (8,500)
7. US287 Wyoming (4,200)
8. US491 New Mexico (3,700)
9. US85 Wyoming (3,500)
10. US287/385 Oklahoma (3,100)
11. US491 Utah (2,800)
12. CO140 New Mexico (2,100)
13. US40 Utah (2,000)
14. US160 New Mexico (1,800)
15. US50/400 Kansas (1,500)
16a. US285 New Mexico (1,400)
16b. CO13 Wyoming (1,400)
18a. US84 New Mexico (1,200)
18b. US34 Nebraska (1,200)
18c. CO113 Nebraska (1,200)
21. CO127 Wyoming (950)
22. CO41 Utah (870)
23. CO159 New Mexico (840)
24. US40 Kansas (800)
25. CO71 Nebraska (790)
26. US6 Nebraska (710)
27. US138 Nebraska (660)
28. CO23 Nebraska (520)
29. CO11 Nebraska (500)
30. CO17 New Mexico (480)
31. CO125 Wyoming (460)
32. US385 Nebraska (430)
33. CO96 Kansas (410)
34. US36 Kansas (360)[/b]
35. CO172 New Mexico (330)
36. CO90 Utah (290)
37. US160 Kansas (220)
38. CO116 Kansas (120)
39. CO318 Utah (110)
40. CO389 New Mexico (100)
Bonus - Not a State Maintained Highway in Colorado, But State Maintained in Bordering State:
WYO430/Moffat CR10N (280)
WYO10/Larimer CR103 (233)
WYO214/Weld CR79 (199)
K-15/Baca CR-M (115)
The only ones I think I'd re-order would be having I-70 Kansas and I-76 Nebraska higher than I-25 New Mexico. I think, by importance, the truck traffic on those routes brings it a little higher than the NM traffic which has some local Raton-Trinidad stuff going on.
I was a little bit surprised to see US550 New Mexico higher than US287 Wyoming as well as having CO140 the highest of the state routes.
Chris
Noob question: how do I find the AADT count on roads?
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2021, 10:39:50 AM
Noob question: how do I find the AADT count on roads?
More or less a lot of Googling "XXX State AADT" and looking for Excel files, .pdfs, or downloadable searches on their GIS. If you have a particular state, I can direct you towards the data that I've used.
Chris
Quote from: jayhawkco on April 26, 2021, 10:49:22 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2021, 10:39:50 AM
Noob question: how do I find the AADT count on roads?
More or less a lot of Googling "XXX State AADT" and looking for Excel files, .pdfs, or downloadable searches on their GIS. If you have a particular state, I can direct you towards the data that I've used.
Chris
Massachusetts?
I can make an attempt at Oregon, without the data in front of me.
I-5 at Washington
I-205 at Washington (these are probably tied)
I-5 at California
I-84 at Idaho
I-82 at Washington
US-101 at Washington
US-97 at Washington
US-97 at California
US-101 at California
US-95 at Idaho
US-199 at California
US-395 at California
US-95 at Nevada
WA-433 at Washington (connects the Kelso-Longview area to Oregon....I *think* it's still WA-433 entering Oregon)
US-730 at Washington
ORr-35 at Washington
Bridge of the Gods connecting OR-WA
OR-11 at Washington
OR-140 at Nevada
OR-3 at Washington
Think that covers most of them, if not all.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2021, 10:51:55 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on April 26, 2021, 10:49:22 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2021, 10:39:50 AM
Noob question: how do I find the AADT count on roads?
More or less a lot of Googling "XXX State AADT" and looking for Excel files, .pdfs, or downloadable searches on their GIS. If you have a particular state, I can direct you towards the data that I've used.
Chris
Massachusetts?
https://mhd.public.ms2soft.com/tcds/tsearch.asp?loc=Mhd&mod=
Then do an advanced search for route type and you should be able to download the data.
Chris
Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 26, 2021, 10:52:12 AM
I can make an attempt at Oregon, without the data in front of me.
I-5 at Washington
I-205 at Washington (these are probably tied)
I-5 at California
I-84 at Idaho
I-82 at Washington
US-101 at Washington
US-97 at Washington
US-97 at California
US-101 at California
US-95 at Idaho
US-199 at California
US-395 at California
US-95 at Nevada
WA-433 at Washington (connects the Kelso-Longview area to Oregon....I *think* it's still WA-433 entering Oregon)
US-730 at Washington
ORr-35 at Washington
Bridge of the Gods connecting OR-WA
OR-11 at Washington
OR-140 at Nevada
OR-3 at Washington
Think that covers most of them, if not all.
If you want to be exhaustive, looks like you're missing:
OR52 Idaho
US95Bus Idaho
OR332 Washington
OR39 California
OR205 Nevada
Otherwise not bad for off the top of your head.
Chris
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2021, 10:39:50 AM
Noob question: how do I find the AADT count on roads?
Come on, you're not a noob. :D
Every state has their own site. I'd usually start by googling "[state name] traffic data" and their site should come up within the first few results.
Quote from: jayhawkco on April 26, 2021, 10:49:22 AM
More or less a lot of Googling "XXX State AADT" and looking for Excel files, .pdfs, or downloadable searches on their GIS. If you have a particular state, I can direct you towards the data that I've used.
I don't know that I've ever downloaded anything, save for maybe a few .pdf's of some NY state routes in my area. You can usually find whatever you're looking for on the state's traffic data viewer or equivalent without downloading anything.
Quote from: webny99 on April 26, 2021, 11:04:00 AM
I don't know that I've ever downloaded anything, save for maybe a few .pdf's of some NY state routes in my area. You can usually find whatever you're looking for on the state's traffic data viewer or equivalent without downloading anything.
When you're trying to find the extremes in the state's AADTs (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=28578.0), it's way easier to get an Excel file to sort and filter. If you're looking for the AADT of a certain segment, sure, the maps work just fine.
Chris
Quote from: jayhawkco on April 26, 2021, 11:02:28 AM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 26, 2021, 10:52:12 AM
I can make an attempt at Oregon, without the data in front of me.
I-5 at Washington
I-205 at Washington (these are probably tied)
I-5 at California
I-84 at Idaho
I-82 at Washington
US-101 at Washington
US-97 at Washington
US-97 at California
US-101 at California
US-95 at Idaho
US-199 at California
US-395 at California
US-95 at Nevada
WA-433 at Washington (connects the Kelso-Longview area to Oregon....I *think* it's still WA-433 entering Oregon)
US-730 at Washington
ORr-35 at Washington
Bridge of the Gods connecting OR-WA
OR-11 at Washington
OR-140 at Nevada
OR-3 at Washington
Think that covers most of them, if not all.
If you want to be exhaustive, looks like you're missing:
OR52 Idaho
US95Bus Idaho
OR332 Washington
OR39 California
OR205 Nevada
Otherwise not bad for off the top of your head.
Chris
Thanks! I'd probably put the remainder of those towards the bottom. It's pretty interesting that Oregon has 2 instances of a 205 (Interstate and OR) that cross state lines.
Quote from: thspfc on April 25, 2021, 03:19:22 PM
Rank your state's border crossings by importance.
My opinion for Wisconsin's top 10:
1. I-41/94 at the IL border
2. I-39/90 at the IL border
3. I-94/US-12 at the MN border
4. I-90 at the MN border
5. US-61/151 at the IA border
6. I-535/US-53 at the MN border
7. US-41 at the MI border
8. US-12 at the IL border
9. US-14/61 at the MN border
10. US-2 at the MI border (in Ironwood)
You like boring crossings. Here are mine.
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hawk_Bridge
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Channel_Bridge_(Winona)
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Highway_243_(Minnesota%E2%80%93Wisconsin)
4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_State_Highway_23
5. https://www.travelwisconsin.com/tours/cassville-car-ferry-203486
Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 26, 2021, 11:16:23 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on April 26, 2021, 11:02:28 AM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 26, 2021, 10:52:12 AM
I can make an attempt at Oregon, without the data in front of me.
I-5 at Washington
I-205 at Washington (these are probably tied)
I-5 at California
I-84 at Idaho
I-82 at Washington
US-101 at Washington
US-97 at Washington
US-97 at California
US-101 at California
US-95 at Idaho
US-199 at California
US-395 at California
US-95 at Nevada
WA-433 at Washington (connects the Kelso-Longview area to Oregon....I *think* it's still WA-433 entering Oregon)
US-730 at Washington
ORr-35 at Washington
Bridge of the Gods connecting OR-WA
OR-11 at Washington
OR-140 at Nevada
OR-3 at Washington
Think that covers most of them, if not all.
If you want to be exhaustive, looks like you're missing:
OR52 Idaho
US95Bus Idaho
OR332 Washington
OR39 California
OR205 Nevada
Otherwise not bad for off the top of your head.
Chris
Thanks! I'd probably put the remainder of those towards the bottom. It's pretty interesting that Oregon has 2 instances of a 205 (Interstate and OR) that cross state lines.
205 itself doesn't actually cross the state line- it ends many miles north in the middle of nowhere.
Quote from: corco on April 26, 2021, 12:17:23 PM
205 itself doesn't actually cross the state line- it ends many miles north in the middle of nowhere.
My bad. Just went quickly by Google Maps. I am far from an expert on southeastern Oregon. :)
Chris
Quote from: jayhawkco on April 26, 2021, 12:52:06 PM
Quote from: corco on April 26, 2021, 12:17:23 PM
205 itself doesn't actually cross the state line- it ends many miles north in the middle of nowhere.
My bad. Just went quickly by Google Maps. I am far from an expert on southeastern Oregon. :)
Chris
No worries, you did provide me with an idea for a new topic I posted here soon after. :)
For Georgia:
- I-75 @ TN, 98.2k
- I-95 @ FL, 70.1k
- I-24 @ TN(E), 67.2k
- US 80 @ AL, 66.8k
- I-20 @ SC, 59.6k
- I-95 @ SC, 59.0k
- I-24 @ TN(W), 51.2k
- I-85 @ SC, 48.0k
- I-75 @ FL, 44.9k
- I-85 @ AL, 39.4k
- I-20 @ AL, 34.5k
- US 280 @ AL, 30.6k
- 13th St., Columbus, 25.0k
- 13th St., Augusta, 24.2k
- US 27 @ TN, 23.7k
- GA 28(S) @ SC(S), 21.6k
- US 1/25/78/278 @ SC, 20.2k
- US 17 @ SC, 18.4k
- I-520 @ SC, 17.3k
- I-59 @ AL, 14.3k
- US 29 @ AL, 14.0k
- US 319 @ FL, 12.1k
- US 23/441 @ NC, 10.7k
- US 41/76 @ TN, 10.2k
All of the others are under 10,000 AADT.
I'm not sure about using volume data to rank the crossings. It makes sense to a certain extent, but then you have cases like NY 303 at the NJ line being almost twice as busy as I-86 at the PA line. Yet no one would argue that NY 303 is the more important crossing.
Quote from: ftballfan on April 25, 2021, 08:57:11 PM
The Canadian crossings don't have accurate AADT numbers, but here are their rankings in importance:
1. Ambassador Bridge
2. Blue Water Bridge
3. Detroit-Windsor Tunnel
4. International Bridge (Sault Ste. Marie)
The Howe Bridge will jump to #1 when it opens.
And likely, the Ambassador will drop to #3.
Quote from: webny99 on April 26, 2021, 01:06:22 PM
I'm not sure about using volume data to rank the crossings. It makes sense to a certain extent, but then you have cases like NY 303 at the NJ line being almost twice as busy as I-86 at the PA line. Yet no one would argue that NY 303 is the more important crossing.
I think it's a good basis from which to start thinking about importance. As I posted for mine in Colorado, there are some I'd move around (interstates specifically) for importance, but I guess what makes it important if it's not the amount of people that use it? I can see bridges without any others around being one obvious "exception", i.e. I-155 MO/TN.
Chris
This one was challenging! :bigass:
Alaska.
AK-2/YT-1 at the Alaska/YT border
AK-5 (Top of the World Hwy)/YT-9 at the Alaska/YT border.
Am I missing any?
Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 26, 2021, 01:34:38 PM
This one was challenging! :bigass:
Alaska.
AK-2/YT-1 at the Alaska/YT border
AK-5 (Top of the World Hwy)/YT-9 at the Alaska/YT border.
Am I missing any?
Yep.
AK-7 Haines Highway
AK-98 Klondike Highway
Loosely BC37A Stewart-Cassiar Highway
And technically the Top of the World Highway is not numbered on the AK side. AK-5 goes up to Eagle.
Chris
Quote from: webny99 on April 26, 2021, 01:06:22 PM
I'm not sure about using volume data to rank the crossings. It makes sense to a certain extent, but then you have cases like NY 303 at the NJ line being almost twice as busy as I-86 at the PA line. Yet no one would argue that NY 303 is the more important crossing.
The numbers I got for Ohio are mostly reasonable, so I went with it. Most used crossings at major metro areas like Cincinnati and Toledo. Most interstates are above 4 lane US routes. The only one that's puzzling to me is US 22's 32k AADT at the WV border. US 22 is a freeway at that point, but Steubenville isn't that large of a city, and the 4 lane section dead ends at Cadiz on the Ohio side, though continues all the way as a 4 lane to I-376 on the east. The AADT number would've made more sense to me if it connected to I-70 at Cambridge as a freeway, as that would make a neat Columbus-Pittsburgh freeway corridor, except it doesn't.
2019 AADT of US 22 from Cambridge to WV BorderEast of I-77 junction - 5.8k
Concurrency with OH 800 - 2.8k
West of US 250 junctions - 3k
Concurrency with US 250 - 8.5k
East of US 250 junctions - 8.7k
Concurrency with OH 151 - 10.5k
East of OH 151 eastern junction - 11.4k
East of OH 152 junction - 10k
West of OH 43 junction - 10.2k
East of OH 43 junction - 15.8k
West of John Scott Hwy junction - 18k
Between John Scott Hwy and OH 7 - 29k
Concurrency with OH 7 - 33.8k
WV Border - 32k
Actually, a lot of the local roads numbers near Steubenville seem high too, even with 2020 numbers. Especially the 20k on OH 43. Most of the busiest arterials in Cincinnati and Columbus don't even reach that high.
(https://i.imgur.com/Xzx9lZE.png?1)
I think I'll take a stab at neighboring Washington. Again, no data in front of me, but I'll stick to the larger thoroughfares.
I think the biggest would be I-5 at the Canadian border, as it's the artery of the west coast, and connects two huge metro areas, Seattle and Vancouver, BC.
Next up, I'm not sure of. Would it be I-90 from Idaho because of the length of I-90 and cities served along the way? Or would it be I-5 entering from Oregon? I'll tie these at 2nd.
- I-82 entering from Oregon
- US-97, both ends at the BC and Oregon lines
- US-12 at Idaho
-US-101 at Oregon
-US-2 at Idaho
-US-395 at the BC line
Here's some wild cards. Would we include ferry routes? If so, the one from Victoria-Port Angeles, and from Vancouver to Seattle would certainly land high on the list.
Again, not a all inclusive list, I just tried to get the big ones.
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 26, 2021, 12:12:05 PM
Quote from: thspfc on April 25, 2021, 03:19:22 PM
Rank your state's border crossings by importance.
My opinion for Wisconsin's top 10:
1. I-41/94 at the IL border
2. I-39/90 at the IL border
3. I-94/US-12 at the MN border
4. I-90 at the MN border
5. US-61/151 at the IA border
6. I-535/US-53 at the MN border
7. US-41 at the MI border
8. US-12 at the IL border
9. US-14/61 at the MN border
10. US-2 at the MI border (in Ironwood)
You like boring crossings. Here are mine.
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hawk_Bridge
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Channel_Bridge_(Winona)
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Highway_243_(Minnesota%E2%80%93Wisconsin)
4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_State_Highway_23
5. https://www.travelwisconsin.com/tours/cassville-car-ferry-203486
OP did specify the most
important border crossings, not the most interesting. That would have to be separate thread.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2021, 10:39:50 AM
Noob question: how do I find the AADT count on roads?
This thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=25691.msg2444515#msg2444515) may help you find them for most states.
Here is a humble stab at New York:
1. I-95/US 1 (George Washington Bridge) at NJ line
2. NY 495 (Lincoln Tunnel) at NJ line
3. I-78 (Holland Tunnel) at NJ line
4. NY 440 (Outerbridge Crossing) at NJ line
5. I-95 at CT line
6. I-278 (Goethals Bridge) at NJ line
7. I-84 at CT line
8. I-287 at NJ line
9. Garden State Pkwy at NJ line
10. Hutchinson River Pkwy (CT 15) at CT line
11. Palisades Pkwy at NJ line
--- (all routes below this line have <50k AADT) ---
12. I-84 at PA line
13. I-90 at MA line
14. I-81 at PA line
15. I-90 at PA line
16. I-99/US 15 at PA line
17. NY 440 (Bayonne Bridge) at NJ line
18. US 1 at CT line
19. US 220 at PA line
20. US 219 at PA line
--- (all routes below this line have <10k AADT) ---
21. I-86 at PA line
22. Bennington Bypass (VT 279) at VT line
23. US 4 at VT line
24. US 20 at MA line
25. NY 94 at NJ line
26. NY 26 at PA line
27. US 62 at PA line
28. US 2 at VT line
Unless I missed some, everything else is either <5k or within 20 miles of a crossing already listed.
International crossings:
1. Peace Bridge (QEW)
2. Lewiston Bridge (I-190/ON 405)
3. Champlain (I-87/QC 15)
4. Thousand Islands Bridge (I-81/ON 137)
5. Rainbow Bridge (NY 384/ON 420)
6. Rooseveltown/Cornwall (NY 37/ON 138)
7. Ogdensburg (NY 812/ON 16)
8. Whirlpool Bridge (NEXUS only)
9-15. All others
Quote from: jayhawkco on April 26, 2021, 11:02:28 AM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 26, 2021, 10:52:12 AM
I can make an attempt at Oregon, without the data in front of me.
I-5 at Washington
I-205 at Washington (these are probably tied)
I-5 at California
I-84 at Idaho
I-82 at Washington
US-101 at Washington
US-97 at Washington
US-97 at California
US-101 at California
US-95 at Idaho
US-199 at California
US-395 at California
US-95 at Nevada
WA-433 at Washington (connects the Kelso-Longview area to Oregon....I *think* it's still WA-433 entering Oregon)
US-730 at Washington
ORr-35 at Washington
Bridge of the Gods connecting OR-WA
OR-11 at Washington
OR-140 at Nevada
OR-3 at Washington
Think that covers most of them, if not all.
If you want to be exhaustive, looks like you're missing:
OR52 Idaho
US95Bus Idaho
OR332 Washington
OR39 California
OR205 Nevada
Otherwise not bad for off the top of your head.
Chris
As Corco mentioned, OR 205 does not reach Nevada.
Bus US 95 -> Spur US 95
Missing:
OR 201 Idaho
OR 86 Idaho
OR 452 Idaho
OR 453 Idaho (technical)
OR 454 Idaho
Quote from: jayhawkco on April 26, 2021, 02:08:40 PM
Loosely BC37A Stewart-Cassiar Highway
You could make an argument for that being the most important crossing to Alaska, since it's the only access to Hyder, and Hyder residents share a lot of community resources with Stewart, BC (including school).
Quote from: tmthyvs on September 21, 2021, 02:26:31 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on April 26, 2021, 02:08:40 PM
Loosely BC37A Stewart-Cassiar Highway
You could make an argument for that being the most important crossing to Alaska, since it's the only access to Hyder, and Hyder residents share a lot of community resources with Stewart, BC (including school).
I mean, there's only 87 people in Hyder. I'm pretty sure that the amount of goods that come on the Alaska Highway serve a few more people in the remaining part of the state.
Chris
Quote from: jayhawkco on September 21, 2021, 02:50:29 PM
Quote from: tmthyvs on September 21, 2021, 02:26:31 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on April 26, 2021, 02:08:40 PM
Loosely BC37A Stewart-Cassiar Highway
You could make an argument for that being the most important crossing to Alaska, since it's the only access to Hyder, and Hyder residents share a lot of community resources with Stewart, BC (including school).
I mean, there's only 87 people in Hyder. I'm pretty sure that the amount of goods that come on the Alaska Highway serve a few more people in the remaining part of the state.
Chris
Absolutely, and I would probably rate the Alaska highway higher, but it does show how subjective the notion of "importance" would be. Shut down the Hyder crossing and the town is cut off. Shut down the Alaska Highway crossing and goods can take a longer, more expensive route.
Also of note for Alaska, do you count the ferry system connections to Bellingham and/or Prince Rupert?
If we start doing that, then we have to do the same for Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Delaware, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Connecticut, and Maine too.
Chris
Quote from: cabiness42 on April 25, 2021, 04:34:17 PM
For Indiana:
I--80/I-94 | 178,392 | IL |
I-64 | 70,053 | KY |
I-65 | 56,812 | KY |
US 41S | 36,659 | KY |
I-70E | 33,928 | OH |
I-74E | 33,706 | OH |
I-94 | 33,048 | MI |
I-275 | 29,071 | KY |
US 30W | 28,196 | IL |
US 12W-US 20 W-US 41N | 25,754 | IL |
I-275 | 24,954 | OH |
I-70W | 23,593 | IL |
SR 265 (I-265) | 19,984 | KY |
I-90 | 18,886 | OH |
I-74W | 18,849 | IL |
US 31 | 18,580 | MI |
I-69 | 18,508 | MI |
I-90 | 17,913 | IL |
US 30 | 15,998 | OH |
I-64 | 14,745 | IL |
US 24 | 13,122 | OH |
SR 933 | 11,774 | MI |
US 50E | 11,503 | OH |
Quote from: mukade on September 21, 2021, 09:41:01 PM
I-64 70,053 KY
I-65 56,812 KY
Having lived down there for 11 years, that really doesn't sound right. I-65 seemingly always has more traffic than I-64.
West Virginia Top 20
1. I-81 Williamsport MD 68,683
2. I-81 Stephenson VA 53,250
3. I-470 Bellaire OH 42,676
4. I-77/US-52 North Gap VA 38,790
5. US-22 Steubenville OH 33,960
6. I-70 West Alexander PA 33,322
7. I-79 Mount Morris PA 33,271
8. I-64 Catlettsburg KY 30,416*
9. I-70 Bridgeport OH 30,006
10. US-22 Paris PA 27,884
11. US-340 Loudoun Heights VA 24,941
12. WV-106 Proctorville OH 19,951
13. I-77 Marietta OH 19,891
14. US-30 East Liverpool OH 17,758
15. US-250 Bridgeport OH 16,900
16. US-460 Bluefield VA 16,202
17. WV-527 Chesapeake OH 16,099
18. US-52 Chesapeake OH 15,926
19. US-35 Kanauga OH 15,434
20. VA-9 Keys Gap VA 15,151
Highest Unnumbered Routes
21. Newell Bridge East Liverpool OH 14,917
49. Stadium Drive Bluefield VA 6,023
Smallest Border Crossings**
104. Nolan Toll Bridge Hatfield KY -0- (Closed due to lack of maintenance)
103. Old Corona Road Bridge Corona MD 101
102. WV-108 Oakland MD*** 102
101. Old WV-59 Devils Hole VA 177
100. WV-69 Independence Township PA 250
* I-64 Kentucky Border AADT data is from 2016, other numbers posted are from 2017 (but some of the data is older).
** Complete listing includes all border river crossings, state primary routes (posted on either side), and a few special cases. There are plenty of other minor land crossings with very low AADT.
*** Easter Egg. Should actually be Preston County CR-108. Turns out that Preston County has CR numbers higher than 99. Other than the LSR numbers, never heard of any 3dCRs.
Quote from: cabiness42 on September 21, 2021, 10:01:45 PM
Quote from: mukade on September 21, 2021, 09:41:01 PM
I-64 70,053 KY
I-65 56,812 KY
Having lived down there for 11 years, that really doesn't sound right. I-65 seemingly always has more traffic than I-64.
Not sure, but that is the way I read it: https://indot.public.ms2soft.com/tcds/tsearch.asp?loc=Indot&mod (https://indot.public.ms2soft.com/tcds/tsearch.asp?loc=Indot&mod)