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Title: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: mrivera1 on February 04, 2009, 12:04:05 AM
The Express Lanes on busy freeways like I-15 through North San Diego County and CA-91 through Orange County have done quite a lot to relieve traffic in their respective areas.  However, where else do you all think they would be a perfect addition to the existing freeway system?  I think that many routes traveling through metro areas would benefit greatly from a separate FasTrak/carpool lane(s) that would allow thru traffic to flow through these areas.  Anyways, I'd appreciate to hear your responses.
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: FLRoads on February 04, 2009, 12:27:02 AM
The Orlando area was slated to have express lanes running down the median of Interstate 4.  Dubbed Express 400 (for the hidden state route number Interstate 4 shares), the four-lane express lanes would have ran from the Florida 435 (Kirkman Road exit 75) to Florida 434 (exit 94), allowing motorists to bypass the usual congestion Interstate 4 produces daily.  It would have essentially been a road within a road because the Express 400 would have had its own interchanges (granted only a couple slated) at junctions separate from Interstate 4 as well as a few slip ramps to get back onto the mainline Interstate 4.  But thanks to a politician, the plans were discontinued.  There is however, a similar proposal in place to rebuild Interstate 4 in the same area to accommodate more traffic by adding extra lanes, which will include slip ramps.  Construction on this though is still several years away.
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: Alex on February 04, 2009, 12:30:54 AM
Express Toll Interstate 95 (http://www.i-95expresstolllanes.com/) is currently being built between the merge with Interstate 895 in Baltimore and the Perry Hall area east of Maryland 43. Two two-lane carriageways are being added within an expanded median of the freeway.
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: FLRoads on February 04, 2009, 12:39:10 AM
One more area, also in Florida, that is in the development stages of adding express lanes is Interstate 75 between Fort Myers and Naples.  Currently Interstate 75 is six-laning about 25 miles of roadway from Florida 884 (Colonial Blvd exit 136) south to Collier County 846 (exit 111).  But according to analysis and LOC levels, this will not be enough.  Thus the need for adding the express lanes.  Click here (http://www.swfea.net/Express_Toll_Lanes/index.html) for more details.
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: John on February 04, 2009, 10:05:04 AM
Northern California could definitely use them along freeways like 880 and 680 which are a mess every day.
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: DrZoidberg on February 04, 2009, 10:16:46 AM
I believe that Texas is using them on their reconstruction of I-10 in west Houston.
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: Alex on February 04, 2009, 11:21:26 AM
Quote from: DrZoidberg on February 04, 2009, 10:16:46 AM
I believe that Texas is using them on their reconstruction of I-10 in west Houston.

They are, and they are signed with the TXMUTCD approved signage (bleh): http://www.interstate-guide.com/ishields/images/i-010_tx_04.jpg (http://www.interstate-guide.com/ishields/images/i-010_tx_04.jpg)
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: exit322 on February 04, 2009, 11:29:21 AM
Wow, that is ugly.  Why such a small sign on that size a BGS?
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: Bryant5493 on February 04, 2009, 01:41:13 PM
^^ Yeah, I concur.


Be well,

Bryant
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: Gridlock on February 04, 2009, 02:41:16 PM
The I-10 Katy Freeway express lanes are complete, along with the freeway widening.  The traffic patterns are currently being evaluated before final setup/pricing of toll/HOT lanes is implemented.  Counting feeder roads, road is 18-22 lanes wide for 12 mile stretch between Hwy 6 and I-610.  Quite an upgrade from the old 6 lane + reversible HOV configuration.

http://www.houstonfreeways.com/i10_photo_report.html (http://www.houstonfreeways.com/i10_photo_report.html)
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: Chris on February 04, 2009, 02:44:05 PM
Well, Houston is growing like crazy, adding 100,000 people per year in the city.
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: Gridlock on February 04, 2009, 02:46:46 PM
I always thought the free I-5 reversible express lanes in Seattle was a cool idea, but I'm not aware of a similar dedicated free reversible roadway setup anywhere else. 

I think an elevated 3 lane tolled reversible express lane was recently completed down the median of a highway in Tampa, FL.
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: Voyager on February 04, 2009, 07:37:23 PM
I think reversible lanes are a great idea. They've kept the 6 total lanes of the Golden Gate Bridge moving fast even during the worst commute hours, and they are a brilliant idea in themselves. Don't any other places in CA use those kinds of reversible lanes?
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: John on February 04, 2009, 08:29:16 PM
Yeah, there are other bridges out there with the same changeable lane config, but reversable lanes are pretty rare.
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: FreewayDan on February 10, 2009, 03:07:59 PM
Quote from: Gridlock on February 04, 2009, 02:41:16 PM
The I-10 Katy Freeway express lanes are complete, along with the freeway widening.  The traffic patterns are currently being evaluated before final setup/pricing of toll/HOT lanes is implemented.  Counting feeder roads, road is 18-22 lanes wide for 12 mile stretch between Hwy 6 and I-610.  Quite an upgrade from the old 6 lane + reversible HOV configuration.

http://www.houstonfreeways.com/i10_photo_report.html (http://www.houstonfreeways.com/i10_photo_report.html)

US 290/Northwest Freeway (a.k.a. Ronald Reagan Memorial Highway) is planned to have express toll lanes parallel to Hempstead Road: http://my290.com/index.htm (http://my290.com/index.htm)

SR 288/South Freeway (a.k.a. Nolan Ryan Expressway) also has plans to add express lanes in the wide median: http://houstonstrategies.blogspot.com/2007/02/big-plans-for-288-but-it-could-be.html (http://houstonstrategies.blogspot.com/2007/02/big-plans-for-288-but-it-could-be.html)
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: Voyager on February 10, 2009, 03:10:47 PM
I would love to see express lanes on I-80 between SF and the Sierra foothills.
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: njroadhorse on February 14, 2009, 01:09:14 PM
While on the subject, Jersey needs some express lanes on our highways.
However, that will probably never happen :pan:  :-D :eyebrow:
Why did they ever abandon the HOV lanes on 80?  :-/
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: TheStranger on February 14, 2009, 08:03:01 PM
Quote from: voyager on February 04, 2009, 07:37:23 PM
I think reversible lanes are a great idea. They've kept the 6 total lanes of the Golden Gate Bridge moving fast even during the worst commute hours, and they are a brilliant idea in themselves. Don't any other places in CA use those kinds of reversible lanes?

Route 75 along the Coronado Bridge?
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: Voyager on February 14, 2009, 08:03:51 PM
I thought the Coronado Bridge had a jersey barrier.
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: Voyager on February 16, 2009, 01:30:53 AM
The new Bay Bridge should have had them too, I think.
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: roadfro on February 17, 2009, 08:23:30 PM
There's a proposal to do a similar express/tolling setup with I-15 in Las Vegas along the Strip resort corridor.  It is being explored as a public/private partnership, which would be a first for NDOT.

State law needs to change for this to happen, though.  Currently, toll roads are forbidden in Nevada.
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: akotchi on October 19, 2009, 05:57:37 PM
The HOV lanes on I-80 and I-287 were both abandoned in the late 1990's, IIRC.
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: njroadhorse on October 19, 2009, 07:53:34 PM
Quote from: akotchi on October 19, 2009, 05:57:37 PM
The HOV lanes on I-80 and I-287 were both abandoned in the late 1990's, IIRC.
Yup, cuz nobody used them.  :pan:
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: Riverside Frwy on October 29, 2009, 10:18:08 PM
If Express lanes were put in on Interstate 405 from LAX, through the sepulveda Pass and ending at US 101 would be perfect.Do have any idea how much Los Angeles would make on having Interstate 405 tolled?They would clean up......
Title: Re: I-15/CA-91 Express Lanes: A great idea, but where else would they be welcome?
Post by: myosh_tino on October 30, 2009, 02:18:55 AM
Quote from: John on February 04, 2009, 10:05:04 AM
Northern California could definitely use them along freeways like 880 and 680 which are a mess every day.
An HOT (high occupancy toll) lane is under construction on southbound I-680 between CA-84 and CA-237 (basically the Sunol Grade section of I-680).  The HOT lane is actually a conversion of the existing HOV lane.  There are plans for a northbound HOT lane but there is no funding for it.

Also on the drawing board in Santa Clara County is the possible conversion of the HOV lanes on CA-85, CA-87 and U.S. 101 to HOT lanes.  I also believe the new HOV lanes on I-580 in Livermore is also supposed to become HOT lanes.