What segment of what freeways out there are in crappy condition? I mean issues such as pavement chunks and potholes. Other deficiencies could have honorable mention. Looking to see which one is really in despair.
The state of Michigan.
I'll nominate I-25 on the New Mexico side of Raton Pass and I-80 in Wyoming between Rock Springs and Rawlins.
Chris
I keep hearing horror stories about I-65 between Nashville and the Kentucky state line.
Interstate 5 through all of Portland.
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 08, 2021, 03:51:46 PM
The state of Michigan.
I second that.
When I lived in Colorado it was I-270. Worst than a Michigan road.
US 70 east of Las Cruces.
I-5 in Seattle. Lots of old panels, expansion joints that occasionally pop up and need emergency repairs, hollow columns that will break in an earthquake...
Around here US-10 between Midland and Bay City is in bad condition in a few spots.
I-69 through Flint is in poor shape and some stretches between Lansing and Flint that haven't been repaved yet.
I-75 is in pretty good shape for the most part, some of the bad spots are getting worked on currently.
It just depends on what part of each freeway you are on, some of it is great and some of it is very bad.
California, I-25 at Raton Pass and Massachusetts.
It's probably not as bad as some of these, but I was a little surprised at how much KDOT has let free I-35 go, since in times past their maintenance has been second to none.
I-95 in South Carolina definitely had some rough areas when I drove through a few months ago. North Carolina and Georgia sides were notably in much better condition.
Quote from: Bruce on June 08, 2021, 05:45:12 PM
I-5 in Seattle. Lots of old panels, expansion joints that occasionally pop up and need emergency repairs, hollow columns that will break in an earthquake...
I-5 in South Tacoma is also quite awful. Original pavement from when it opened in 1959, if I recall correctly. At least there aren't any seismic hazards.
Honestly, most of WA is pretty good, although I may still rank parts of Snoqualmie Pass (I-90) as worse than any urban freeway. Not WSDOT's fault of course. Damn freeze-thaw conditions.
Quote from: hbelkins on June 08, 2021, 04:38:48 PM
I keep hearing horror stories about I-65 between Nashville and the Kentucky state line.
I don't know about north of Nashville, but I-65 between the Alabama line and Nashville had a rather large amount of potholes when I drove it in March. Same with I-24 between Nashville and Chattanooga.
penna turnpike. pick any segment. this is actually worse due to the extravagant tolls you pay to drive the thing.
Quote from: hbelkins on June 08, 2021, 04:38:48 PM
I keep hearing horror stories about I-65 between Nashville and the Kentucky state line.
I was last down that way 4 years ago and northbound at least wasn't bad but 4 years is a long time.
For a while I would have said I-55 in Louisiana but it has since been repaved. I feel like I-10 through New Orleans has poor sections. Also I-20 through Jackson MS.
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I-40 across the Mississippi River.
Taking "crappiest" literally, this (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Shitterton,+Bere+Regis,+Wareham,+UK/@50.7570303,-2.2347377,15.98z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4873acbba35b9fa5:0x45e025b1c06e8c21!8m2!3d50.7546319!4d-2.2277296) segment of A35 in the United Kingdom appears to be freeway.
MD 295 within the city of Baltimore. It's maintained by the Baltimore Department of Transportation. Many of the BGS are very old, and on one approaching the MD 648 exit, the MD 648 shield is barely recognizable. It also needed to be paved when I traveled it southbound in 2016. Once you get into Baltimore County, the State Highway Administration takes much better care of it. BDoT is also responsible for I-83 within the city limits, and it has similarly aging signs.
US-20 around Rockford has a lot of pavement issues. These issues extend west as well, including out to the two-lane section. Within the last couple years though, a portion around Freeport was resurfaced and is in great shape. Otherwise, the corridor is a mess.
I also would like to give an oh-so-special shoutout to the section of Palatine Rd/Willow Rd between Milwaukee Ave and the Tri-State. The fact that IDOT resurfaced Palatine from Milwaukee Ave all the way west past IL-53, but couldn't be bothered to properly fix this small section just boggles my mind.
MN 62, still, especially east of Valley View Road. The I-35W rebuild excepted, it's still narrow, crumbling, twisty, substandard driving.
For now, most of I-75 between the Ohio River and northern I-275 junction is crappy.
Quote from: bassoon1986 on June 08, 2021, 08:08:24 PM
For a while I would have said I-55 in Louisiana but it has since been repaved. I feel like I-10 through New Orleans has poor sections. Also I-20 through Jackson MS.
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This is what I was just thinking. I had to go to Kentwood Louisiana for a funeral this past weekend and was amazed at how much better IH 55 looked than it did when I lived in Baton Rouge/ New Orleans.
and yes, IH 10 has some rough patches in NOLA. IH 12 was also impressive between IH 10 and IH 55. They seem to be widening it essentially the whole way. And the same thing seemed to be going on with IH 10 between Winnie and Lake Charles.
Quote from: ctkatz on June 08, 2021, 07:01:47 PM
penna turnpike. pick any segment. this is actually worse due to the extravagant tolls you pay to drive the thing.
The high tolls notwithstanding, the PA Turnpike is actually not all that bad. The PTC does a halfway decent job maintaining the roadways and the reconstructed segments are in great condition.
Over on the PennDOT side of things...there are segments of I-78 that are absolutely awful, with the part between the Berks/Lehigh line and the US 22 split being the worst.
NY 17, Tioga County, NY.
A few years ago Big Rig Steve drove westbound on I-20 through Shreveport, LA, resulting in most of the stuff in the cab of his truck being well shaken and stirred.
Back in the mid-1990s, I was roadtripping in the Denver, CO area and was struck by how bad the freeways were due to rutting wear from studded tires. Worst was I-270 where the rutting was so deep that the concrete was breaking through in some stretches.
Mike
I can recall the section of I-70 between Saint Louis and Kansas City to be like driving down a washboard road. It was awful.
For Chicago, it was the Eisenhower Expressway. Going through some of the roughest West Side neighborhoods, it looked the part as well. Thankfully, the Circle Interchange reconstruction project is a start.
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I-40 across the Mississippi River.
okay you win
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Quote from: ctkatz on June 08, 2021, 07:01:47 PM
penna turnpike. pick any segment. this is actually worse due to the extravagant tolls you pay to drive the thing.
The high tolls notwithstanding, the PA Turnpike is actually not all that bad. The PTC does a halfway decent job maintaining the roadways and the reconstructed segments are in great condition.
Over on the PennDOT side of things...there are segments of I-78 that are absolutely awful, with the part between the Berks/Lehigh line and the US 22 split being the worst.
Just about every freeway in SE PA excluding the PA Turnpike sections.
The US 202 freeway in the Great Valley area, because it was recently widened, isn't too bad. And I haven't been on PA 309 in a while. And I-95 in Delaware County is being rehabbed. Otherwise...
I-480 in San Francisco. So crappy they tore it down.
SH-130 south of Austin, around Lockhart. The road is so "hilly" (buckling of pavement) combined with the 85 mph speed limit, in the right (wrong) vehicle you could literally fly off the thing!
I-40 between Needles and Kingman
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on June 09, 2021, 07:08:28 AM
I can recall the section of I-70 between Saint Louis and Kansas City to be like driving down a washboard road. It was awful.
Some sections aren't bad. I swear others haven't been resurfaced since it was first built in the 70's.
I-55 IL from I-80 to Weber Road. Chunks of that were ricocheted off truck tires ahead of me and punctured my front bumper twice. Looks like I have bullet holes
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 08, 2021, 06:15:44 PM
I-95 in South Carolina definitely had some rough areas when I drove through a few months ago. North Carolina and Georgia sides were notably in much better condition.
Heh, we just drove the full length of I-95 northbound through South Carolina on Monday and Tuesday and my wife noted the same thing as to several issues: (1) Very abrasive and noisy pavement; (2) Surprising number of small potholes; (3) The right lane has a lot of poorly-done concrete repair panels that themselves are cracked; (4) A fair amount of dips in the pavement, particularly in the right lane (probably due in no small part to heavy truck traffic concentrated in the right lane).
To me the biggest thing of note was the abrasive and noisy pavement. It wears on you when you've already been driving for most of the day. I did note, however, that there seemed to be less road spray in the rain than there is on the smoother pavement in the other states.
(Edited because I realized I had the days wrong–we stopped for the night near Florence–and to add the comment about the rain.)
Here's the worst one I use:
https://goo.gl/maps/8BW7VQ4rrHgHarc66
https://goo.gl/maps/iKDbcTLQY1EA47x88
https://goo.gl/maps/QTKNions1cjwu2mt5
So glad my toll money is going to good use! :rolleyes:
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Here's the worst one I use:
https://goo.gl/maps/8BW7VQ4rrHgHarc66
https://goo.gl/maps/iKDbcTLQY1EA47x88
https://goo.gl/maps/QTKNions1cjwu2mt5
So glad my toll money is going to good use! :rolleyes:
None of those are freeways.
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Quote from: kphoger on June 10, 2021, 11:10:57 AM
Here's the worst one I use:
https://goo.gl/maps/8BW7VQ4rrHgHarc66
https://goo.gl/maps/iKDbcTLQY1EA47x88
https://goo.gl/maps/QTKNions1cjwu2mt5
So glad my toll money is going to good use! :rolleyes:
None of those are freeways.
All three of those are examples from the same freeway.
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Here's the worst one I use:
https://goo.gl/maps/8BW7VQ4rrHgHarc66
https://goo.gl/maps/iKDbcTLQY1EA47x88
https://goo.gl/maps/QTKNions1cjwu2mt5
So glad my toll money is going to good use! :rolleyes:
None of those are freeways.
All three of those are examples from the same freeway.
I looked at it. That has to be the first dirt freeway I have ever seen.
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Here's the worst one I use:
https://goo.gl/maps/8BW7VQ4rrHgHarc66
https://goo.gl/maps/iKDbcTLQY1EA47x88
https://goo.gl/maps/QTKNions1cjwu2mt5
So glad my toll money is going to good use! :rolleyes:
None of those are freeways.
All three of those are examples from the same freeway.
I looked at it. That has to be the first dirt freeway I have ever seen.
What are you talking about? Those links go to an asphalt divided toll road.
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Here's the worst one I use:
https://goo.gl/maps/8BW7VQ4rrHgHarc66
https://goo.gl/maps/iKDbcTLQY1EA47x88
https://goo.gl/maps/QTKNions1cjwu2mt5
So glad my toll money is going to good use! :rolleyes:
None of those are freeways.
All three of those are examples from the same freeway.
I looked at it. That has to be the first dirt freeway I have ever seen.
What are you talking about? Those links go to an asphalt divided toll road.
Well not dirt, but certainly not like anything I've seen in America.
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Here's the worst one I use:
https://goo.gl/maps/8BW7VQ4rrHgHarc66
https://goo.gl/maps/iKDbcTLQY1EA47x88
https://goo.gl/maps/QTKNions1cjwu2mt5
So glad my toll money is going to good use! :rolleyes:
None of those are freeways.
All three of those are examples from the same freeway.
I looked at it. That has to be the first dirt freeway I have ever seen.
What are you talking about? Those links go to an asphalt divided toll road.
Well not dirt, but certainly not like anything I've seen in America.
Yeah. It's a freeway in crappy condition–one that I use every so often.
FWIW, the highway I linked to is frequently the butt of editorials for its poor condition. Reporters are fond of pointing out that the free road is generally in better condition than the parallel toll road.
From a December article about that highway:
Quote from: Periódico La Voz – Aumentan 4% la Tarifa de Autopista – 22-DEC-2021 (translated by Google)
With this undeserved increase, the cost for each kilometer traveled is 2 pesos 07 cents, for a "highway" that has been managed for more than 20 years by "Supercarreteras del Norte", a company that is not capable of providing a service online billing or customer service, and to top it all off the counter billing is constantly interrupted by "system crashes".
The road also has asphalt in poor condition, which has caused countless accidents this year, in addition to not having signage, lighting or emergency telephones as provided by other highways that are up to 50% cheaper.
[...]
The 4% increase was also made effective for excess axles, trucks with up to 4, 6.7 and 9 axles, which seems like a new abuse, taking into account the bad state of the road.
("Countless accidents" due to the asphalt being in poor condition? I
seriously doubt that.)
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Here's the worst one I use:
https://goo.gl/maps/8BW7VQ4rrHgHarc66
https://goo.gl/maps/iKDbcTLQY1EA47x88
https://goo.gl/maps/QTKNions1cjwu2mt5
So glad my toll money is going to good use! :rolleyes:
None of those are freeways.
All three of those are examples from the same freeway.
I looked at it. That has to be the first dirt freeway I have ever seen.
What are you talking about? Those links go to an asphalt divided toll road.
Well not dirt, but certainly not like anything I've seen in America.
Roads in Mexico aren't the same as in the United States :-o
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Here's the worst one I use:
https://goo.gl/maps/8BW7VQ4rrHgHarc66
https://goo.gl/maps/iKDbcTLQY1EA47x88
https://goo.gl/maps/QTKNions1cjwu2mt5
So glad my toll money is going to good use! :rolleyes:
I don't think there's any way to beat this. Unless there's
actually a dirt freeway somewhere!
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Quote from: kphoger on June 10, 2021, 11:10:57 AM
Here's the worst one I use:
https://goo.gl/maps/8BW7VQ4rrHgHarc66
https://goo.gl/maps/iKDbcTLQY1EA47x88
https://goo.gl/maps/QTKNions1cjwu2mt5
So glad my toll money is going to good use! :rolleyes:
I don't think there's any way to beat this. Unless there's actually a dirt freeway somewhere!
(https://thedailycure.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/dirt-road-3.jpg)
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Quote from: kphoger on June 10, 2021, 11:10:57 AM
Here's the worst one I use:
https://goo.gl/maps/8BW7VQ4rrHgHarc66
https://goo.gl/maps/iKDbcTLQY1EA47x88
https://goo.gl/maps/QTKNions1cjwu2mt5
So glad my toll money is going to good use! :rolleyes:
None of those are freeways.
All three of those are examples from the same freeway.
I looked at it. That has to be the first dirt freeway I have ever seen.
What are you talking about? Those links go to an asphalt divided toll road.
Well not dirt, but certainly not like anything I've seen in America.
Roads in Mexico aren't the same as in the United States :-o
There are plenty of excellent freeways in Mexico. Here are some I've personally had the pleasure to drive on:
https://goo.gl/maps/999243meojZJRZPt7
https://goo.gl/maps/GrgtaAznGZMhk8JC7
https://goo.gl/maps/oTJPZkVvtY8GT9Rv9
https://goo.gl/maps/9t1gfTQzJUDgyAbV7
https://goo.gl/maps/vwVTrRqVz5Ngr5zS8
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Here's the worst one I use:
https://goo.gl/maps/8BW7VQ4rrHgHarc66
https://goo.gl/maps/iKDbcTLQY1EA47x88
https://goo.gl/maps/QTKNions1cjwu2mt5
So glad my toll money is going to good use! :rolleyes:
None of those are freeways.
All three of those are examples from the same freeway.
I looked at it. That has to be the first dirt freeway I have ever seen.
What are you talking about? Those links go to an asphalt divided toll road.
Well not dirt, but certainly not like anything I've seen in America.
Roads in Mexico aren't the same as in the United States :-o
There are plenty of excellent freeways in Mexico. Here are some I've personally had the pleasure to drive on:
https://goo.gl/maps/999243meojZJRZPt7
https://goo.gl/maps/GrgtaAznGZMhk8JC7
https://goo.gl/maps/oTJPZkVvtY8GT9Rv9
https://goo.gl/maps/9t1gfTQzJUDgyAbV7
https://goo.gl/maps/vwVTrRqVz5Ngr5zS8
The 3rd and 4th one of those seem magnificent.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 10, 2021, 01:38:52 PM
The 3rd and 4th one of those seem magnificent.
The 3rd one was constructed in about 2009 or so. I first drove it in 2010.
The 4th one was constructed a year or two later. I think I first drove it in 2012.
While many freeways in Mexico are in excellent condition, by and large they are all toll roads.
Free roads generally have cross traffic, and conditions vary wildly. For example, here are three I'm very familiar with:
excellent (https://goo.gl/maps/mcHGJTd6B7vWXU9s7),
typical (https://goo.gl/maps/hUNGsJXtkjGc1pzE6),
some creative driving required (https://goo.gl/maps/tt4DRBPjZ3NhQku1A)
I-840 was starting to look really bad in Williamson County, however, they are repaving. The road was built with disjoints and potholes were popping up.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 08, 2021, 06:11:04 PM
California, I-25 at Raton Pass and Massachusetts.
Parts of US-101 Bayshore Freeway in San Francisco was repaved recently.
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Here's the worst one I use:
https://goo.gl/maps/8BW7VQ4rrHgHarc66
https://goo.gl/maps/iKDbcTLQY1EA47x88
https://goo.gl/maps/QTKNions1cjwu2mt5
So glad my toll money is going to good use! :rolleyes:
None of those are freeways.
All three of those are examples from the same freeway.
I looked at it. That has to be the first dirt freeway I have ever seen.
What are you talking about? Those links go to an asphalt divided toll road.
Well not dirt, but certainly not like anything I've seen in America.
Roads in Mexico aren't the same as in the United States :-o
There are plenty of excellent freeways in Mexico. Here are some I've personally had the pleasure to drive on:
https://goo.gl/maps/999243meojZJRZPt7
https://goo.gl/maps/GrgtaAznGZMhk8JC7
https://goo.gl/maps/oTJPZkVvtY8GT9Rv9
https://goo.gl/maps/9t1gfTQzJUDgyAbV7
https://goo.gl/maps/vwVTrRqVz5Ngr5zS8
The 3rd and 4th one of those seem magnificent.
Have you been on 40D? That looks like an amazing road! It has so many bridges and tunnels. I stopped counting at 100 tunnels, and didn't even emattempt to count bridges. Anyway, only one is interesting, that being the Baluarte Bridge, at 1,280 ft high! That is 325 feet higher than the royal gorge bridge!
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Here's the worst one I use:
https://goo.gl/maps/8BW7VQ4rrHgHarc66
https://goo.gl/maps/iKDbcTLQY1EA47x88
https://goo.gl/maps/QTKNions1cjwu2mt5
So glad my toll money is going to good use! :rolleyes:
None of those are freeways.
All three of those are examples from the same freeway.
I looked at it. That has to be the first dirt freeway I have ever seen.
What are you talking about? Those links go to an asphalt divided toll road.
Well not dirt, but certainly not like anything I've seen in America.
Roads in Mexico aren't the same as in the United States :-o
There are plenty of excellent freeways in Mexico. Here are some I've personally had the pleasure to drive on:
https://goo.gl/maps/999243meojZJRZPt7
https://goo.gl/maps/GrgtaAznGZMhk8JC7
https://goo.gl/maps/oTJPZkVvtY8GT9Rv9
https://goo.gl/maps/9t1gfTQzJUDgyAbV7
https://goo.gl/maps/vwVTrRqVz5Ngr5zS8
The 3rd and 4th one of those seem magnificent.
Have you been on 40D? That looks like an amazing road! It has so many bridges and tunnels. I stopped counting at 100 tunnels, and didn't even emattempt to count bridges. Anyway, only one is interesting, that being the Baluarte Bridge, at 1,280 ft high! That is 325 feet higher than the royal gorge bridge!
I've never been to Mexico, but now I would like to go some day.
Anybody on US-23 between mile markers 5 & 15 in Michigan is taking their life in their hands. 3 serious accidents yesterday alone.
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Anybody on US-23 between mile markers 5 & 15 in Michigan is taking their life in their hands. 3 serious accidents yesterday alone.
Eesh. I am headed up that way soon.
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on June 16, 2021, 01:34:05 PM
Anybody on US-23 between mile markers 5 & 15 in Michigan is taking their life in their hands. 3 serious accidents yesterday alone.
Was through there on Saturday. Sure is messed up. They're supposed to be working on that stretch soon.
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Here's the worst one I use:
https://goo.gl/maps/8BW7VQ4rrHgHarc66
https://goo.gl/maps/iKDbcTLQY1EA47x88
https://goo.gl/maps/QTKNions1cjwu2mt5
So glad my toll money is going to good use! :rolleyes:
None of those are freeways.
All three of those are examples from the same freeway.
I looked at it. That has to be the first dirt freeway I have ever seen.
What are you talking about? Those links go to an asphalt divided toll road.
Well not dirt, but certainly not like anything I've seen in America.
Roads in Mexico aren't the same as in the United States :-o
There are plenty of excellent freeways in Mexico. Here are some I've personally had the pleasure to drive on:
https://goo.gl/maps/999243meojZJRZPt7
https://goo.gl/maps/GrgtaAznGZMhk8JC7
https://goo.gl/maps/oTJPZkVvtY8GT9Rv9
https://goo.gl/maps/9t1gfTQzJUDgyAbV7
https://goo.gl/maps/vwVTrRqVz5Ngr5zS8
The 3rd and 4th one of those seem magnificent.
Have you been on 40D? That looks like an amazing road! It has so many bridges and tunnels. I stopped counting at 100 tunnels, and didn't even emattempt to count bridges. Anyway, only one is interesting, that being the Baluarte Bridge, at 1,280 ft high! That is 325 feet higher than the royal gorge bridge!
You weren't asking
me, were you? Because the third and fourth ones I linked to
are 40D. Just not the part of it you're referring to. I've never driven the stretch from Durango to Sinaloa, but member |US 41| has.
US-23 south of Ann Arbor especially. Not only does US-23 need an extra lane in each direction and in places maybe two extra lanes but the pavement quality is crap. When is MDOT ever going to address the problem that is US-23 between Flint and the Ohio line? Seriously it's like they don't even know the highway exists it's so neglected. US-23 is more of a pain the ass than I-75 is.
I-29. Need I say more? https://www.google.ca/maps/@41.2751066,-95.8788654,3a,75y,257.87h,76.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWF4ztLxp9Wea08vwLbWmAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
I-69 south of I-94 to the MI state line was pretty bad as well.
I did not really enjoy driving on Highbury Avenue in London, ON. Compared to other freeways, it's relatively not pleasant.
I recently saw a driving video traveling along some freeway or parkway in the NYC Metro area. Not sure of which one it was, but the median had no jersey barrier -- just some 1960's era guardrail that looked like every inch of it was either dented or chewed up over it's lifespan.
The roadway didn't look so hot, either.
Welcome to New York City!
Quote from: LilianaUwU on June 17, 2021, 03:23:55 PM
I-29. Need I say more? https://www.google.ca/maps/@41.2751066,-95.8788654,3a,75y,257.87h,76.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWF4ztLxp9Wea08vwLbWmAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Wrong link (https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/journalstar.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/8/a9/8a903d97-a240-502f-8db9-e9c58b4959f6/5c9d6e8cf046a.image.jpg)
Quote from: kphoger on June 18, 2021, 01:44:16 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on June 17, 2021, 03:23:55 PM
I-29. Need I say more? https://www.google.ca/maps/@41.2751066,-95.8788654,3a,75y,257.87h,76.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWF4ztLxp9Wea08vwLbWmAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Wrong link (https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/journalstar.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/8/a9/8a903d97-a240-502f-8db9-e9c58b4959f6/5c9d6e8cf046a.image.jpg)
I need some context, please. I need to know why it looks like there was an earthquake in the Midwest.
Quote from: kphoger on June 18, 2021, 01:44:16 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on June 17, 2021, 03:23:55 PM
I-29. Need I say more? https://www.google.ca/maps/@41.2751066,-95.8788654,3a,75y,257.87h,76.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWF4ztLxp9Wea08vwLbWmAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Wrong link (https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/journalstar.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/8/a9/8a903d97-a240-502f-8db9-e9c58b4959f6/5c9d6e8cf046a.image.jpg)
Oh god. Was this on the same Council Bluffs segment?
Quote from: MCRoads on June 18, 2021, 07:04:38 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 18, 2021, 01:44:16 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on June 17, 2021, 03:23:55 PM
I-29. Need I say more? https://www.google.ca/maps/@41.2751066,-95.8788654,3a,75y,257.87h,76.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWF4ztLxp9Wea08vwLbWmAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Wrong link (https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/journalstar.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/8/a9/8a903d97-a240-502f-8db9-e9c58b4959f6/5c9d6e8cf046a.image.jpg)
I need some context, please. I need to know why it looks like there was an earthquake in the Midwest.
Quote from: LilianaUwU on June 18, 2021, 07:35:14 PM
Oh god. Was this on the same Council Bluffs segment?
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=24709.0
Quote from: MCRoads on June 18, 2021, 07:04:38 PM
I need to know why it looks like there was an earthquake in the Midwest.
You are aware, right, that we've been having earthquakes here lately?
Quote from: kphoger on March 15, 2021, 02:48:26 PM
Recent activity here in Wichita, KS
03/14/2021 @ 06:29 – magnitude 3.4
03/14/2021 @ 06:31 – magnitude 3.5
03/14/2021 @ 07:02 – magnitude 3.0
03/14/2021 @ 08:30 – magnitude 2.4
03/14/2021 @ 18:08 – magnitude 3.9
03/14/2021 @ 22:01 – magnitude 1.8
03/15/2021 @ 08:52 – magnitude 3.1
03/15/2021 @ 08:59 – magnitude 3.2
My dad's bathroom light bulb broke from the second one while he was on the toilet Sunday morning, and some friends of ours now have a buckled front porch with boards that won't fit back into place.
All the tremors have been located 5 km underground, and all within a half-mile of Charles and David Koch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_family)'s property. So, as I figure it, Charles Koch must be digging a hole to the center of the earth. It's the only explanation.
Quote from: kphoger on June 18, 2021, 08:02:53 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on June 18, 2021, 07:04:38 PM
I need to know why it looks like there was an earthquake in the Midwest.
You are aware, right, that we've been having earthquakes here lately?
Quote from: kphoger on March 15, 2021, 02:48:26 PM
Recent activity here in Wichita, KS
03/14/2021 @ 06:29 – magnitude 3.4
03/14/2021 @ 06:31 – magnitude 3.5
03/14/2021 @ 07:02 – magnitude 3.0
03/14/2021 @ 08:30 – magnitude 2.4
03/14/2021 @ 18:08 – magnitude 3.9
03/14/2021 @ 22:01 – magnitude 1.8
03/15/2021 @ 08:52 – magnitude 3.1
03/15/2021 @ 08:59 – magnitude 3.2
My dad's bathroom light bulb broke from the second one while he was on the toilet Sunday morning, and some friends of ours now have a buckled front porch with boards that won't fit back into place.
All the tremors have been located 5 km underground, and all within a half-mile of Charles and David Koch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_family)'s property. So, as I figure it, Charles Koch must be digging a hole to the center of the earth. It's the only explanation.
Yes, I know, I lived in Oklahoma and that was a problem, but to have that much damage, it would have to be a big one. I'm not sure what magnitude an earthquake has to be to cause liquefaction, but that is the only way I can see this happening. The most damage an earthquake did in Oklahoma was knocking things off shelves and tables.
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on June 16, 2021, 01:34:05 PM
Anybody on US-23 between mile markers 5 & 15 in Michigan is taking their life in their hands. 3 serious accidents yesterday alone.
I hit a deer at MM 12 about 7 months ago. The deer was just standing in the left lane in the northbound direction it was pitch black out and I didn't see it until the last split second before I clocked it. I ended up totaling my car and got a ride to Dundee but man what a stupid place for a deer to be standing. When I went back to the Summerfield exit to the junk yard next to the highway to get the stuff out of my car a few days later I realized how close to the highway the trees are in that area.
Quote from: Flint1979 on June 20, 2021, 12:56:51 PM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on June 16, 2021, 01:34:05 PM
Anybody on US-23 between mile markers 5 & 15 in Michigan is taking their life in their hands. 3 serious accidents yesterday alone.
I hit a deer at MM 12 about 7 months ago. The deer was just standing in the left lane in the northbound direction it was pitch black out and I didn't see it until the last split second before I clocked it. I ended up totaling my car and got a ride to Dundee but man what a stupid place for a deer to be standing. When I went back to the Summerfield exit to the junk yard next to the highway to get the stuff out of my car a few days later I realized how close to the highway the trees are in that area.
Did you tell MDOT to move the deer crossing?
:hmmm:
Mike
Quote from: mgk920 on June 20, 2021, 02:09:06 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on June 20, 2021, 12:56:51 PM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on June 16, 2021, 01:34:05 PM
Anybody on US-23 between mile markers 5 & 15 in Michigan is taking their life in their hands. 3 serious accidents yesterday alone.
I hit a deer at MM 12 about 7 months ago. The deer was just standing in the left lane in the northbound direction it was pitch black out and I didn't see it until the last split second before I clocked it. I ended up totaling my car and got a ride to Dundee but man what a stupid place for a deer to be standing. When I went back to the Summerfield exit to the junk yard next to the highway to get the stuff out of my car a few days later I realized how close to the highway the trees are in that area.
Did you tell MDOT to move the deer crossing?
:hmmm:
Mike
LOL nah but I cracked a joke with the wrecker driver since this happened two days after the election I said well maybe he didn't like the results of the election and he figures he has nothing left to live for.
It sucked waiting there for the Monroe County sheriff's deputy to show up though.
Even though I lost a car out of it (the car I have now is three times better than that car) that's the least of my worries with US-23. The pavement quality is in poor condition in many stretches and it's only four lanes when it should be at least six.
I hate that highway.
LA-3132 the Inner Loop Expressway (Terry Bradshaw Passway) around the south side of Shreveport.
It actually used to be worse, but it still is the worst I can think of!
Quote from: bwana39 on June 20, 2021, 06:41:45 PM
LA-3132 the Inner Loop Expressway (Terry Bradshaw Passway) around the south side of Shreveport.
It actually used to be worse, but it still is the worst I can think of!
It's worse than I-20 through town?
*YIKES!!*
:-o
Mike
My list (some of these have been posted upthread, generally for good reason):
MD-295 (in Baltimore City);
I-83 (also in Baltimore City);
I-270 (MD-121 to I-70 - pre-Interstate design and it shows);
DC-295;
I-495 at the American Legion Bridge over the Potomac River (needs replacement);
I-95 (Delaware Turnpike) - for being supposedly a toll road, a lot of it is in remarkably bad shape, especially between DE-896 and DE-1;
I-278 (BQE) in New York City;
I-95 (Cross Bronx) in New York City;
I-70 in Pennsylvania (Washington to New Stanton (but parts are being fixed-up) and Breezewood to Maryland border);
I-83 in Pennsylvania (in addition to I-83 in Baltimore City);
I-78 in Pennsylvania (I-81 to Exit 75 near Easton, where the sign marking the beginning of DRJTBC maintenance is located);
I-76 (Sure-Kill Expressway section);
I-90 in Erie County, Pennsylvania (the road is in much better shape in Ohio and New York);
I-70 between Odessa, Missouri and Wentzville, Missouri (needs total reconstruction); and
I-95 (former Richmond-Petersburg Turnpike, pre-Interstate design - but I-295 is a good alternative).
I was just in Michigan and I-69 south of Lansing is a disgrace. Ditto for I-96 between Lansing and Grand Rapids (or Gr Rapid per MDOT).
While it's not really a freeway (it's more of an expressway or a super 2), New Brunswick route 15 is awful in certain spots:
(https://i.imgur.com/NnI1YyJ.png)
(Street View (https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.2029234,-64.3043035,3a,90y,112.56h,81.43t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sZg5c8TB7_yHmSgJEe7H3Mw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DZg5c8TB7_yHmSgJEe7H3Mw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D64.78435%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en))
Quote from: VetteDriver16 on June 23, 2021, 11:45:12 AM
I was just in Michigan and I-69 south of Lansing is a disgrace. Ditto for I-96 between Lansing and Grand Rapids (or Gr Rapid per MDOT).
I thought Gd Rapids as guide signs on US 31 post that.
Quote from: mgk920 on June 21, 2021, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: bwana39 on June 20, 2021, 06:41:45 PM
LA-3132 the Inner Loop Expressway (Terry Bradshaw Passway) around the south side of Shreveport.
It actually used to be worse, but it still is the worst I can think of!
It's worse than I-20 through town?
*YIKES!!*
:-o
Mike
Here is an example. It is rough too. The concrete is all our of plane. Every one of the expansion joints you saw are separate plates and none of them are level to the next one.
https://goo.gl/maps/tTBqiVv7ifwBDZxr9
Quote from: bwana39 on June 23, 2021, 08:30:37 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on June 21, 2021, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: bwana39 on June 20, 2021, 06:41:45 PM
LA-3132 the Inner Loop Expressway (Terry Bradshaw Passway) around the south side of Shreveport.
It actually used to be worse, but it still is the worst I can think of!
It's worse than I-20 through town?
*YIKES!!*
:-o
Mike
Here is an example. It is rough too. The concrete is all our of plane. Every one of the expansion joints you sww are separate platews and none of them are level to the next one.
https://goo.gl/maps/tTBqiVv7ifwBDZxr9
Always fun at the merge from EB 3132 to SB I-49 where the concrete slabs are out of alignment parallel to the lanes of travel...
Before I-69 was recently reconstructed near Anderson INDOT put up "rough road" signs and a construction speed limit of 60 was up for months before any work was done. Thank goodness it's fixed now.
Michigan should put up a sign at the state line saying Rough Road Ahead Next 300 Miles. But in all honesty they are indeed fixing the roads in Michigan. I've noticed a lot of roads that were in bad shape before that have been repaved. Saginaw and Genesee Counties have improved.
I-20/59 in Birmingham just west of Arkadelphia Rd for about 2 miles was absolutely atrocious. Instead of rebuilding the road 15 years ago, ALDOT decided it would be better to just slap a layer of asphalt on top of the old concrete (I'm guessing that was there since the 70s) and call it a day. Well that pavement started getting deep groves wherever the concrete had gaps between the lanes and the whole road started buckling like the concrete below. A few months ago they finally started working on it and grinded all of the asphalt off. The sad part is the 40-50 year old surface now being used is far better and smoother than the much newer pavement previously above it :-D
Quote from: ukfan758 on June 29, 2021, 02:24:47 PM
I-20/59 in Birmingham just west of Arkadelphia Rd for about 2 miles was absolutely atrocious. Instead of rebuilding the road 15 years ago, ALDOT decided it would be better to just slap a layer of asphalt on top of the old concrete (I'm guessing that was there since the 70s) and call it a day. Well that pavement started getting deep groves wherever the concrete had gaps between the lanes and the whole road started buckling like the concrete below. A few months ago they finally started working on it and grinded all of the asphalt off. The sad part is the 40-50 year old surface now being used is far better and smoother than the much newer pavement previously above it :-D
Arkansas did the exact same thing on I-40 in the mid-90s. For a few months it was bliss, until the new asphalt cracked precisely over the old concrete joints and the ride was as bumpy as ever. It took the Mike Huckabee tax increase to save the day.
I-440 in Northern Raleigh.
The US 421 Freeway west of I-77 gets my vote. Like a parade of potholes. At least the last time I went, which was two years ago...
I haven't been on hardly any freeways in the last 18 months.
Honorable mention from my past: early 90s I-820 east, heading to I-35W North. There were... literal speed bumps(?) in the road. Like four sets of them, strips going across all lanes of traffic. My dad's car had one of those ashtrays you push to shut. It popped open. Eject button came off his tape player. Not a construction zone at the time.
They were gone a couple of weeks later, our next time through there.
Quote from: milbfan on July 25, 2021, 12:03:22 AM
The US 421 Freeway west of I-77 gets my vote. Like a parade of potholes. At least the last time I went, which was two years ago...
I haven't been on hardly any freeways in the last 18 months.
Honorable mention from my past: early 90s I-820 east, heading to I-35W North. There were... literal speed bumps(?) in the road. Like four sets of them, strips going across all lanes of traffic. My dad's car had one of those ashtrays you push to shut. It popped open. Eject button came off his tape player. Not a construction zone at the time.
They were gone a couple of weeks later, our next time through there.
I've driven US-421 from Winston-Salem to Boone before and don't remember it being awful but that was several years ago now so it might have gotten worse over the years.
The elevated sections of I-5 through Seattle are really showing their age. Sections of I-5 near Bellingham as well, due to the mountains. When I used to drive cross-country, there were sections of I-90 and I-94 through the Dakotas, that you literally could not drive in the right lane, and expect to keep your teeth with the buckling panels.
However, Michigan still takes the cake, mostly I-69 from Lansing to Port Huron, I-75 from 16 Mile to US 10, M-59 from Pontiac to I-94, and both I-275 and I-475. I know they have tried to fix a lot of problems, but most of them won't be fixed if they insist on using such shallow roadbeds and allowing those massive Michigan Only trucks to continue to operate.
Isn't this whole thread a moving target?
Quote from: TEG24601 on July 25, 2021, 11:13:36 AM
The elevated sections of I-5 through Seattle are really showing their age. Sections of I-5 near Bellingham as well, due to the mountains. When I used to drive cross-country, there were sections of I-90 and I-94 through the Dakotas, that you literally could not drive in the right lane, and expect to keep your teeth with the buckling panels.
However, Michigan still takes the cake, mostly I-69 from Lansing to Port Huron, I-75 from 16 Mile to US 10, M-59 from Pontiac to I-94, and both I-275 and I-475. I know they have tried to fix a lot of problems, but most of them won't be fixed if they insist on using such shallow roadbeds and allowing those massive Michigan Only trucks to continue to operate.
I've driven on many of these stretches plus other areas of the state and the roads are being fixed. I-69 and I-75 are being rebuilt for the most part. Most of I-75 between US-10 and Big Beaver is fine as far as pavement quality goes.
US 264 going from Greenville to Washington is in terrible condition, I hope that stretch gets fixed and rumble strips are added.
At least in NE Illinois (Chicago Area), I-55 through Will County, especially near Joliet, potholes and always hoping my tires survive a lane change.
*Dishonorable mention, I-290 between Manheim and Central Ave in Cook County, just the whole thing needs to be rebuilt. The pavement condition isn't terrible, yet isn't great either. However, the 1950s design and original construction of the overpasses, etc, just is not holding up well, and this honestly can't handle the traffic. I personally just don't like this expressway, so I admit my bias may play a role in my mentioning this.
Indiana: I-70 east of Indy to Richmond... Seems like a never-ending cycle of road construction, especially with a lot of semis on that stretch!
Quote from: VetteDriver16 on June 23, 2021, 11:45:12 AM
I was just in Michigan and I-69 south of Lansing is a disgrace. Ditto for I-96 between Lansing and Grand Rapids (or Gr Rapid per MDOT).
I-96 between Lansing and Grand Rapids is probably in better condition than any other freeway segment in Michigan (note: better, not good). I-75 south of exit 125 (I-475) down to at least I-69 is absolutely horrible!
Quote from: Terry Shea on July 26, 2021, 03:18:14 AM
Quote from: VetteDriver16 on June 23, 2021, 11:45:12 AM
I was just in Michigan and I-69 south of Lansing is a disgrace. Ditto for I-96 between Lansing and Grand Rapids (or Gr Rapid per MDOT).
I-96 between Lansing and Grand Rapids is probably in better condition than any other freeway segment in Michigan (note: better, not good). I-75 south of exit 125 (I-475) down to at least I-69 is absolutely horrible!
I-75 north of exit 125 is in pretty good shape though. The stretch south of there hasn't been repaved in over 30 years. I-475 just got repaved on the north section that was formerly one of the worst stretches of Interstate anywhere. Through Oakland County where it's currently being repaved is in good shape and going through Auburn Hills up until Joslyn Road is in pretty good shape, north of Joslyn it gets pretty bad for awhile though. It's bad past I-69 on I-75 though it really doesn't get any better until you get to Oakland County.
Those roads haven't been repaved yet but I'm sure they will be. I-69 south of Lansing is being repaved around the Charlotte area I believe it's been about a month since I've driven I-69 there though.
I remember I-35 in Southern Minnesota was pretty bad, when I was last up there on a trip in 2013. My uncle even remembered it being pretty bad, as well, back in the 1990's.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on June 08, 2021, 09:17:24 PM
US-20 around Rockford has a lot of pavement issues. These issues extend west as well, including out to the two-lane section. Within the last couple years though, a portion around Freeport was resurfaced and is in great shape. Otherwise, the corridor is a mess.
I also would like to give an oh-so-special shoutout to the section of Palatine Rd/Willow Rd between Milwaukee Ave and the Tri-State. The fact that IDOT resurfaced Palatine from Milwaukee Ave all the way west past IL-53, but couldn't be bothered to properly fix this small section just boggles my mind.
It's getting resurfaced this year.
https://www.idotacts.com/acts/constructionUpdateReport.jsp;jsessionid=C6800F84777A751040BA954AB53FF62C
tells you everything you need to know.
Quote from: Henry on June 09, 2021, 11:41:07 AM
For Chicago, it was the Eisenhower Expressway. Going through some of the roughest West Side neighborhoods, it looked the part as well. Thankfully, the Circle Interchange reconstruction project is a start.
when's the last time you drove it? Pavement is smooth.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 25, 2021, 11:35:21 PM
At least in NE Illinois (Chicago Area), I-55 through Will County, especially near Joliet, potholes and always hoping my tires survive a lane change.
*Dishonorable mention, I-290 between Manheim and Central Ave in Cook County, just the whole thing needs to be rebuilt. The pavement condition isn't terrible, yet isn't great either. However, the 1950s design and original construction of the overpasses, etc, just is not holding up well, and this honestly can't handle the traffic. I personally just don't like this expressway, so I admit my bias may play a role in my mentioning this.
There are no potholes in that stretch, they have all been patched and it will be resurfaced this year.
Quote from: Crash_It on July 27, 2021, 05:58:13 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on June 08, 2021, 09:17:24 PM
US-20 around Rockford has a lot of pavement issues. These issues extend west as well, including out to the two-lane section. Within the last couple years though, a portion around Freeport was resurfaced and is in great shape. Otherwise, the corridor is a mess.
I also would like to give an oh-so-special shoutout to the section of Palatine Rd/Willow Rd between Milwaukee Ave and the Tri-State. The fact that IDOT resurfaced Palatine from Milwaukee Ave all the way west past IL-53, but couldn't be bothered to properly fix this small section just boggles my mind.
It's getting resurfaced this year.
https://www.idotacts.com/acts/constructionUpdateReport.jsp;jsessionid=C6800F84777A751040BA954AB53FF62C
tells you everything you need to know.
Wrong district linked.
But yeah 20 has been slowly deteriorating. You got from IL-2 to the Buis-20 split on the west side of Rockford, the eastbound right lane is terrible just before Winnebago, plus large sections of the single lane areas from about Woodbine to Eleroy and much of the Elizabeth section.
They are doing patches though, like I-39 to IL-2 is very nice now, Freeport was done a couple years ago, and a large part of the single lane from the IL-84 split to about Galena
Quote from: ET21 on July 27, 2021, 03:18:15 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on July 27, 2021, 05:58:13 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on June 08, 2021, 09:17:24 PM
US-20 around Rockford has a lot of pavement issues. These issues extend west as well, including out to the two-lane section. Within the last couple years though, a portion around Freeport was resurfaced and is in great shape. Otherwise, the corridor is a mess.
I also would like to give an oh-so-special shoutout to the section of Palatine Rd/Willow Rd between Milwaukee Ave and the Tri-State. The fact that IDOT resurfaced Palatine from Milwaukee Ave all the way west past IL-53, but couldn't be bothered to properly fix this small section just boggles my mind.
It's getting resurfaced this year.
https://www.idotacts.com/acts/constructionUpdateReport.jsp;jsessionid=C6800F84777A751040BA954AB53FF62C
tells you everything you need to know.
Wrong district linked.
But yeah 20 has been slowly deteriorating. You got from IL-2 to the Buis-20 split on the west side of Rockford, the eastbound right lane is terrible just before Winnebago, plus large sections of the single lane areas from about Woodbine to Eleroy and much of the Elizabeth section.
They are doing patches though, like I-39 to IL-2 is very nice now, Freeport was done a couple years ago, and a large part of the single lane from the IL-84 split to about Galena
At the rate IDOT is going, by the time they're finished, the Freeport bypass will be in shambles! :-D
I'm teasing. At least they're making some improvements. The two-lane sections of 20 badly need proper shoulders.
Here in Houston there really is no competition for the freeway in the worst shape: it is definitely SH 225. Three lanes, old pavement, bumpy and hasn't been updated or anything in decades.
But, it doesn't head to any major destinations nor does it lead to any popular and developed suburbs. Every other freeway leads to somewhere in demand: IH 10 heads to the hugely developed and populated Spring Branch, Memorial City, and Katy, then on to San Antonio to the west; to the east its the route to Louisiana and the Deep South. IH 45 leads to Galveston and Nasa to the South, and to the north it passes through the heavily populated Spring and The Woodlands and then on to Dallas. IH 69/US 59 leads to Sugar Land, SW Houston, then Corpus Christi and the Valley to the south, and Kingwood, the airport, and northeast Texas.
Even the State and US Highways lead somewhere. 290 goes to Cypress and on to Austin. 288 serves the med center and the suburbs in Brazoria County; 249 is very useful for people in the Willowbrook, Tomball, and Magnolia areas. The three loops all serve business districts or suburbs, and even the tollways lead somewhere. but 225 is the route into the heavy industry. The towns out there are not among our most in demand. No one really wants to live in Pasadena, La Porte, or Deer Park. Or Baytown.
I-75 is not in crappy condition the entire way between Big Beaver and US-10. Between the northern and southern terminus of I-475 it's pretty beat up but north of exit 125 it's fine with the only stretch that's in bad shape is the stretch between the northern and southern terminus of I-675 as well. It's like anytime they have a 3di in the area they neglect the parent 2di for some reason.
With this said both I-475 and I-675 have been or are under construction now. I-75 in between the two ends of both highways though isn't in good shape.
Well a small section of US-20 around Rockford can be taken off the list by next year
The Illinois Department of Transportation announced that weather permitting, repairs on US Bypass 20 between Falconer and Simpson roads in Rockford will begin Monday, Aug. 2. A lane closure in each direction will be utilized throughout the project.
The repairs are the start of a two-year project to improve this 6.5-mile section of road. Work this year includes patching of the road and the exit and entrance ramps at Montague and Meridian roads. This work is expected to be completed by mid-October.
Work will continue in 2022 to remove the road surface and replace it with a smooth layer of asphalt. William Charles Construction Co. LLC of Rockford is the contractor of the project.
Quote from: Route66Fan on July 27, 2021, 04:44:51 AM
I remember I-35 in Southern Minnesota was pretty bad, when I was last up there on a trip in 2013. My uncle even remembered it being pretty bad, as well, back in the 1990's.
I think all of that has been rebuilt or repaved by now. I-90, though, still has some bad sections near Albert Lea.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 02, 2021, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: Route66Fan on July 27, 2021, 04:44:51 AM
I remember I-35 in Southern Minnesota was pretty bad, when I was last up there on a trip in 2013. My uncle even remembered it being pretty bad, as well, back in the 1990's.
I think all of that has been rebuilt or repaved by now. I-90, though, still has some bad sections near Albert Lea.
That's good.
SM-J737P
Quote from: ET21 on August 02, 2021, 09:57:50 AM
Well a small section of US-20 around Rockford can be taken off the list by next year
The Illinois Department of Transportation announced that weather permitting, repairs on US Bypass 20 between Falconer and Simpson roads in Rockford will begin Monday, Aug. 2. A lane closure in each direction will be utilized throughout the project.
The repairs are the start of a two-year project to improve this 6.5-mile section of road. Work this year includes patching of the road and the exit and entrance ramps at Montague and Meridian roads. This work is expected to be completed by mid-October.
Work will continue in 2022 to remove the road surface and replace it with a smooth layer of asphalt. William Charles Construction Co. LLC of Rockford is the contractor of the project.
That's good. Hopefully IDOT will have the funds to continue westward away from Rockford. Those first few miles are still rough.
Actually I take back what I said about the quality of the highway between the two ends of I-675. That is in good shape as well and the Zilwaukee Bridge isn't in bad shape either despite it's construction accident when it was being built
Quote from: JoePCool14 on August 03, 2021, 08:28:30 AM
Quote from: ET21 on August 02, 2021, 09:57:50 AM
Well a small section of US-20 around Rockford can be taken off the list by next year
The Illinois Department of Transportation announced that weather permitting, repairs on US Bypass 20 between Falconer and Simpson roads in Rockford will begin Monday, Aug. 2. A lane closure in each direction will be utilized throughout the project.
The repairs are the start of a two-year project to improve this 6.5-mile section of road. Work this year includes patching of the road and the exit and entrance ramps at Montague and Meridian roads. This work is expected to be completed by mid-October.
Work will continue in 2022 to remove the road surface and replace it with a smooth layer of asphalt. William Charles Construction Co. LLC of Rockford is the contractor of the project.
That's good. Hopefully IDOT will have the funds to continue westward away from Rockford. Those first few miles are still rough.
I just drove it. Does have some rough patches but nowhere near being the horrid condition that US12 around Lake Geneva is.