I'm looking for highways with state designated names instead of numbers. I don't mean specialty designations, such as the one-off Texas "Beltway" or something like a "NASA Road" followed by a number, but a name with no number.
TxDOT maintains the Old San Antonio Road, which is the official designation. It's "State Highway Old San Antonio Road" or SH OSR. It has no number. The highway signs show "OSR." Its founding minute order mentions Senate Bill 570, which directed the Highway Department to provide for the preservation and identification of the Old San Antonio Road. In 1942 it was officially designated as a state highway with that name.
How many of these are out there? For that matter, how many state highways are designated with letters only?
NY's parkways
Wade Ave in Raleigh, NC, which serves as an interstate-grade connector between I-40 West and I-440 North, and vice versa.
I don't believe the I-564 Intermodal Connector in Norfolk, VA (which was finally finished back in January despite initially opening to port traffic all the way back in 2017 and starting construction nearly a decade ago - for a 2 mile urban freeway) has an official numerical designation either.
Well, there's the Oklahoma turnpike system. The Indian Nation Turnpike, Kilpatrick Turnpike, Kickapoo Turnpike, H.E. Bailey Turnpike Norman Spur and Cimarron Turnpike Stillwater Spur all carry no numbers. Oklahoma also has a number of unnumbered free state highways, which are often shown on internal ODOT maps like the Control Section Map with the number "00", but are never referred to publicly as such. Examples include the Duncan Bypass, Poteau Bypass, and Lincoln Boulevard in Oklahoma City.
Quote from: wxfree on June 15, 2021, 12:58:24 AM
For that matter, how many state highways are designated with letters only?
Guessing you haven't spent much time in Missouri, huh?
Ontario has the QEW which is part of the 400-series routes.
I'm not asking about unnumbered highways that have a name in common usage or a city street name, but about highways with official designations with names and no numbers. I wasn't thinking of turnpikes, but if they're state highways designated with a name and no number, they would count. ODOT does seem to consider OTA turnpikes to be state highways. From what I can find, it appears that the New York parkways count. I'm more interested in more obscure examples, and particularly anomalies, named highways in states that don't have a system of them.
As for lettered highways, I should have worded the question more clearly. I'm interested in how many states have a lettering system, and how many anomalies there are (lettered highways in states that don't have a lettering system).
Quote from: SkyPesos on June 15, 2021, 01:02:27 AM
NY's parkways
NY's parkways have numbers -- NYSDOT's, anyway.
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 15, 2021, 01:03:40 AM
Wade Ave in Raleigh, NC, which serves as an interstate-grade connector between I-40 West and I-440 North, and vice versa.
I don't believe the I-564 Intermodal Connector in Norfolk, VA (which was finally finished back in January despite initially opening to port traffic all the way back in 2017 and starting construction nearly a decade ago - for a 2 mile urban freeway) has an official numerical designation either.
Wade Ave is SR 1728.
AFAIK there has yet to be any kind of route number assigned to the Intermodal Connector in Norfolk, though 30 years ago it was proposed as VA 510.
Alaska has very few highways with route numbers (not counting unposted five- or six-digit internal inventory numbers). Among the more significant unnumbered highways are the Walter Hickel parkway in Anchorage (which includes the freeway parts of Minnesota Ave. and O'Malley Rd.); the mostly-freeway Johansen Expressway in Fairbanks; paved two-lane Chena Hot Springs Rd. in Fairbanks; McCarthy Rd. and Nabesna Rd. (state-maintained mostly-unpaved two-lane roads into Wrangell-St. Elias National Park and Reserve); the three unpaved highways (total about 300 miles) going west, east, and north out of Nome; and the extensive mostly-unpaved highway network on Kodiak island.
Illinois used to have the Elgin-O'Hare Expressway, but it since has been given the IL-390 designation
The old "Shield" marker, before 390:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.billburmaster.com%2Frmsandw%2Fillinois%2Fimages%2Feoeshield.jpg&hash=9ed964193fed6d3c9b842ea9c7b2afe7af98be5e)
Crediting billburmaster.com's page on IL-390 for the shield: http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/illinois/state/il390.html
Then there is Truck Bypass in Chester, IL - and is shielded as such:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.billburmaster.com%2Frmsandw%2Fillinois%2Fimages%2Ftruckbyguild.jpg&hash=547fb651ddef583bf66fb92bc3fecdd65cda49e7)
Crediting billburmaster.com's page on Chester Truck Bypass: http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/illinois/misc/chestertruck.html
Quote from: wxfree on June 15, 2021, 03:12:35 AM
I'm not asking about unnumbered highways that have a name in common usage or a city street name, but about highways with official designations with names and no numbers. I wasn't thinking of turnpikes, but if they're state highways designated with a name and no number, they would count. ODOT does seem to consider OTA turnpikes to be state highways. From what I can find, it appears that the New York parkways count. I'm more interested in more obscure examples, and particularly anomalies, named highways in states that don't have a system of them.
As for lettered highways, I should have worded the question more clearly. I'm interested in how many states have a lettering system, and how many anomalies there are (lettered highways in states that don't have a lettering system).
Indianapolis has two freeway segments that have only names and no numbers: Sam Jones Expressway and Shadeland Ave. Carmel has one in Keystone Parkway. They are city maintained and not state, which is why they don't have numbers. Shadeland and Keystone have non-freeway segments that are just city streets so they may not qualify by the OP criteria, but Sam Jones Expressway is a separate entity.
Raymond Wieczorek Dr in Manchester NH
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Wieczorek_Drive
Even the mile markers confirm no route number, https://goo.gl/maps/uZ4Sx5NuYbBB3CLE7
One text file I created for a Python program I created has this list:
Airport Access Road (Orlando)
Airport Connector (Dayton)
Airport Connector (Providence)
All-American Freeway (NC)
Atlantic City Expressway
Audubon Parkway (KY)
Belt Parkway/Southern State Parkway (NY)
Berkshire Connector, unnumbered segment (NY)
Bluegrass Parkway (KY)
Bronx River Parkway
Central Scranton Expressway
Chickasaw Turnpike (OK)
Chisholm Trail Parkway (TX)
Creek Turnpike (OK)
Cross County Parkway (NY)
Cross Island Parkway (NY)
Cumberland Parkway (KY)
Dallas North Tollway/Dallas North Parkway
Delta Highway (OR)
E Sky Harbor Boulevard (AZ)
Epcot Center Drive
Everett Turnpike, unnumbered segment (NH)
Falmouth Spur (ME)
FDR Drive/Harlem River Drive (NY)
Florida's Turnpike
Fort Bend Parkway (TX)
Garden State Parkway
George Washington Memorial Parkway (VA)
Gilcrease Expressway/Osage Expressway (OK)
Grand Central Parkway (NY)
Hardy Toll Road (TX)
Homestead Extension (FL)
Hutchinson River Parkway (CT)
Indian Nation Turnpike (OK)
Joseph Bryan Boulevard (NC)
Keystone Parkway (IN)
Kilpatrick Turnpike (OK)
Maine Turnpike Approach
Martin Luther King Jr. Parkway (Jacksonville, FL)
Meadowbrook Parkway (NY)
Milford Parkway (CT)
Monroe Expressway (NC)
Mountain Parkway (KY)
Muskogee Turnpike (OK)
Natcher Parkway (KY)
New Jersey Turnpike, unnumbered segment
Norman Spur Turnpike (OK)
North Spokane Corridor
Northern State Parkway (NY)
Northwest Parkway (CO)
Palisades Interstate Parkway (NJ/NY)
Peña Boulevard (CO)
President George Bush Turnpike (TX)
Purchase Parkway (KY)
Robert Moses Causeway/Sagtikos Parkway (NY)
Ronald Reagan Parkway (GA)
Sam Cooper Boulevard (TN)
Sam Jones Expressway (IN)
Sam Rayburn Tollway (DFW)
San Bernardino Freeway
Saw Mill River Parkway (NY)
Scarborough Connector (ME)
Selmon Expressway (Tampa, FL)
South Eisenhower Parkway (TX)
Sprain Brook Parkway (NY)
Stillwater Connection (OK)
Suitland Parkway (DC)
Summerlin Parkway (NV)
Taconic State Parkway (NY)
Wade Avenue (NC)
Wantagh Parkway (NY)
West Seattle Bridge
Western Kentucky Parkway
Westpark Tollway (Houston, TX)
West Wendover Avenue (NC)
World Drive (Disney World)
Wurzbach Parkway (San Antonio, TX)
Due to the way the program works, this list does not include spurs that don't connect to another freeway or a US route, such as the Lowell Connector in Massachusetts.
^
As mentioned for the NY Parkways above, KY Parkways have hidden number designations too.
And there's an unnumbered section of the Reagan Hwy in Cincinnati between I-275 and US 27/OH 126.
Quote from: SkyPesos on June 15, 2021, 08:53:50 AM
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As mentioned for the NY Parkways above, KY Parkways have hidden number designations too.
And there's an unnumbered section of the Reagan Hwy in Cincinnati between I-275 and US 27/OH 126.
So does most of the George Washington Memorial Parkway–the portion in Virginia is unsigned VA-90005.
A number of these in Vermont. A few near me include St. Johnsbury State Highway, Fairlee State Highway, and Montpelier State Highway. Despite what wikipedia shows, these do not have route numbers.
Quote from: 1 on June 15, 2021, 08:52:55 AM
One text file I created for a Python program I created has this list:
A lot of those have numbers, though most are unsigned. Off the top of my head:
-Atlantic City Expressway is NJ 446
-Creek Turnpike is SH 364
-Florida’s Turnpike is SR 91
-GSP is NJ 444
-Muskogee Turnpike is SH 351
-NJ Turnpike “unnumbered” segment is NJ 700
-Summerlin Parkway is SR 613 (this may even be signed now?)
-Wurzbach Parkway is PA 1604, which is signed
Also, a lot of that list is city-maintained. I feel like what OP is looking for here is state-maintained roads that for whatever reason don’t have numbers assigned to them at all.
Quote from: US 89 on June 15, 2021, 10:06:05 AM
-Summerlin Parkway is SR 613 (this may even be signed now?)
Still unsigned, when I was in Vegas last summer.
Quote from: cabiness42 on June 15, 2021, 07:55:26 AM
Quote from: wxfree on June 15, 2021, 03:12:35 AM
I'm not asking about unnumbered highways that have a name in common usage or a city street name, but about highways with official designations with names and no numbers. I wasn't thinking of turnpikes, but if they're state highways designated with a name and no number, they would count. ODOT does seem to consider OTA turnpikes to be state highways. From what I can find, it appears that the New York parkways count. I'm more interested in more obscure examples, and particularly anomalies, named highways in states that don't have a system of them.
As for lettered highways, I should have worded the question more clearly. I'm interested in how many states have a lettering system, and how many anomalies there are (lettered highways in states that don't have a lettering system).
Indianapolis has two freeway segments that have only names and no numbers: Sam Jones Expressway and Shadeland Ave. Carmel has one in Keystone Parkway. They are city maintained and not state, which is why they don't have numbers. Shadeland and Keystone have non-freeway segments that are just city streets so they may not qualify by the OP criteria, but Sam Jones Expressway is a separate entity.
Sam Jones is an Indianapolis roadway so it certainly wouldn't qualify as a state highway. Also it does has non-freeway portions at the far eastern end of the roadway and at the exit with I-465, so it is properly an expressway. Also, unlike Shadeland and Keystone which were state highways at one point in their histories Sam Jones never was, only called by its old name Airport Expressway.
Quote from: SectorZ on June 15, 2021, 08:29:43 AM
Raymond Wieczorek Dr in Manchester NH
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Wieczorek_Drive
Even the mile markers confirm no route number, https://goo.gl/maps/uZ4Sx5NuYbBB3CLE7
For that matter there's also the Circumferential Highway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumferential_Highway_(Nashua)) in Nashua - although interestingly it is currently mileposted as a series of Everett Turnpike ramps rather than its own road.
Quote from: 1 on June 15, 2021, 08:52:55 AM
One text file I created for a Python program I created has this list:
Delta Hwy never qualified. It's now OR 132 (and reassurance shield signed!), and before it was a Lane County freeway. IIRC, OSM had it ID'ed as Lane County 1750.
Had it been ODOT to begin with, it still wouldn't have qualified as it would have had an ORH number (presumably ORH 132?) like Beltline Rd did (ORH 69, now OR 569).
Milford Parkway in CT was briefly just a named, then SR 996 and now SR 796.
Riverfront Parkway in Hartford, CT, was 1.01 miles of unnumbered state highway leading from SR 598 to the Bulkeley Bridge. It became part of US 5A, and now I-91.
These are the two that I know from old highway logs, definitely with their own entry and mileage, but no number, not even "secret". Even the Merritt Parkway was designated SR 999 in 1938 before it became part of CT 15.
Storrow Drive/Soldiers Field Rd in Boston
OSR in Texas.
Quote from: roadman65 on June 17, 2021, 01:35:29 AM
OSR in Texas.
That was literally the only specific example mentioned in the first post of this thread.
Quote from: US 89 on June 17, 2021, 01:38:03 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 17, 2021, 01:35:29 AM
OSR in Texas.
That was literally the only specific example mentioned in the first post of this thread.
Well I can't read all posts. Besides I have seen worse things posted. Heck I get copied in a thread too.
Quote from: roadman65 on June 17, 2021, 01:42:53 AM
Quote from: US 89 on June 17, 2021, 01:38:03 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 17, 2021, 01:35:29 AM
OSR in Texas.
That was literally the only specific example mentioned in the first post of this thread.
Well I can't read all posts. Besides I have seen worse things posted. Heck I get copied in a thread too.
True, but it was in the OP. But either way, doesn't matter - we all do it sometimes.
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 17, 2021, 05:59:02 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 17, 2021, 01:42:53 AM
Quote from: US 89 on June 17, 2021, 01:38:03 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 17, 2021, 01:35:29 AM
OSR in Texas.
That was literally the only specific example mentioned in the first post of this thread.
Well I can't read all posts. Besides I have seen worse things posted. Heck I get copied in a thread too.
True, but it was in the OP. But either way, doesn't matter - we all do it sometimes.
Nah. Not everyone.
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 17, 2021, 05:59:02 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 17, 2021, 01:42:53 AM
Quote from: US 89 on June 17, 2021, 01:38:03 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 17, 2021, 01:35:29 AM
OSR in Texas.
That was literally the only specific example mentioned in the first post of this thread.
Well I can't read all posts. Besides I have seen worse things posted. Heck I get copied in a thread too.
True, but it was in the OP. But either way, doesn't matter - we all do it sometimes.
Yes we do. And yes the OP should be read at least and I did a boo boo there. I admit it.
Pro tip: Don't just read the OP. Also do a search feature within the thread for what you want to post. That way, even if OSR had been mentioned 27 posts in, your search would immediately find it.
Quote from: kphoger on June 17, 2021, 01:14:38 PM
Pro tip: Don't just read the OP. Also do a search feature within the thread for what you want to post. That way, even if OSR had been mentioned 27 posts in, your search would immediately find it.
It doesn't always work. There are two things that need to be searched: the abbreviation and the full name. While both are mentioned here, that's not always the case.
Then there's searching for US 50 getting results for US 501, people misspelling words, images with no text, etc.
Quote from: 1 on June 17, 2021, 01:29:55 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 17, 2021, 01:14:38 PM
Pro tip: Don't just read the OP. Also do a search feature within the thread for what you want to post. That way, even if OSR had been mentioned 27 posts in, your search would immediately find it.
It doesn't always work. There are two things that need to be searched: the abbreviation and the full name. While both are mentioned here, that's not always the case.
Then there's searching for US 50 getting results for US 501, people misspelling words, images with no text, etc.
...all of which implies you know what you're talking about, which means you already use the search feature enough to understand its limitations. If only everyone else even
tried!
New York
Saw Mill Parkway
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on June 17, 2021, 03:47:50 PM
New York
Saw Mill Parkway
That's an iffy one, as it's unsigned NY 987D.
Who maintains the LL Tisdale Parkway in Tulsa? It's signposted.
There's also the Colonial Parkway connecting Jamestown-Williamsburg-Yorktown in VA, though Wikipedia says it has an official designation of State Route 90003. I don't remember seeing a number when I lived in Tidewater several years back.
Quote from: Rothman on June 17, 2021, 06:53:35 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 17, 2021, 05:59:02 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 17, 2021, 01:42:53 AM
Quote from: US 89 on June 17, 2021, 01:38:03 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 17, 2021, 01:35:29 AM
OSR in Texas.
That was literally the only specific example mentioned in the first post of this thread.
Well I can't read all posts. Besides I have seen worse things posted. Heck I get copied in a thread too.
True, but it was in the OP. But either way, doesn't matter - we all do it sometimes.
Nah. Not everyone.
Things happen with everyone. Grow up.
Michigan has the Capitol Loop. MDOT assigned it Connector 496 as an internal number.
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 18, 2021, 12:59:14 AM
Quote from: Rothman on June 17, 2021, 06:53:35 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on June 17, 2021, 05:59:02 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 17, 2021, 01:42:53 AM
Quote from: US 89 on June 17, 2021, 01:38:03 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 17, 2021, 01:35:29 AM
OSR in Texas.
That was literally the only specific example mentioned in the first post of this thread.
Well I can't read all posts. Besides I have seen worse things posted. Heck I get copied in a thread too.
True, but it was in the OP. But either way, doesn't matter - we all do it sometimes.
Nah. Not everyone.
Things happen with everyone. Grow up.
Talking about some generic "blob" of things is moving the goalposts lightyears from the simple, minor phenomenon of ignoring the OP. In fact, I'd say a good number of respondents on here have never made that mistake -- I'd go as far as betting on the majority, actually.
Quote from: hbelkins on June 17, 2021, 04:27:27 PM
Who maintains the LL Tisdale Parkway in Tulsa? It's signposted.
I believe it’s the city of Tulsa, and I’m fairly sure they also maintain the portion of the Gilcrease that is not SH 11.
Yes, the LL Tisdale Parkway is owned by the city of Tulsa. And the Gilcrease Expressway west of US 75 is also a local road. The Gilcrease Turnpike, which is under construction, is going to be OK 344.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/2682/4185244881_b1236112b2_c.jpg)
Quote from: 1 on June 15, 2021, 08:52:55 AM
One text file I created for a Python program I created has this list:
San Bernardino Freeway
Wait isn't San Bernardino freeway I-10 in the San Gabriel Valley. But there is an unsigned CA-10 Between I-5 and US-101 in Downtown Los Angeles and there is an El Monte Busway that gets its own lanes that's parallel to the San Bernardino freeway.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2699991,-71.1963907,3a,42.7y,276.89h,90.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfHADxk63-dm40aLyQDdBew!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Great Plain Avenue in Needham
Quote from: Rothman on June 15, 2021, 06:46:01 AM
Quote from: SkyPesos on June 15, 2021, 01:02:27 AM
NY's parkways
NY's parkways have numbers -- NYSDOT's, anyway.
I think the Cross-Island Parkway is only NYCDOT but it still has a reference route (907A).
The LaSalle Expressway near Niagara Falls doesn't have a signed route number (but it's reference route 951A)
There are various NYSDOT roads that don't have posted route numbers but the names are probably decided by the town, not the state
Fulbright Expressway in Fayetteville, AR. Basically both of the ends of the old Fayetteville US-71 Bypass before the middle section became subsumed into what eventually became I-49 through Fayetteville. Also the reason for the janky U-turn of I-49 on the north end where the Fulbright Expressway forks off to dump onto 71B south of the mall and Joyce Blvd.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 27, 2021, 07:45:52 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2699991,-71.1963907,3a,42.7y,276.89h,90.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfHADxk63-dm40aLyQDdBew!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Great Plain Avenue in Needham
This isn't what the thread is mainly looking for (which would be named roads like the Lowell Connector or Storrow Drive). In this case, the state is responsible for maintenance of a short section of Great Plain Ave, with the end located shortly west (https://goo.gl/maps/rTbiMw9W7dxR6gid9) of the beginning that you linked to.
The same works the other way around in MA, where portions of numbered roads are maintained by local DPWs, such as a section of MA 122 in Northbridge, with the north end (https://goo.gl/maps/DDZpXQfoSHSeDF6C7) and the south end (https://goo.gl/maps/ymuuBCHaCydxYX647).
Quote from: Ben114 on June 28, 2021, 11:10:03 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 27, 2021, 07:45:52 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2699991,-71.1963907,3a,42.7y,276.89h,90.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfHADxk63-dm40aLyQDdBew!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Great Plain Avenue in Needham
This isn't what the thread is mainly looking for (which would be named roads like the Lowell Connector or Storrow Drive). In this case, the state is responsible for maintenance of a short section of Great Plain Ave, with the end located shortly west (https://goo.gl/maps/rTbiMw9W7dxR6gid9) of the beginning that you linked to.
The same works the other way around in MA, where portions of numbered roads are maintained by local DPWs, such as a section of MA 122 in Northbridge, with the north end (https://goo.gl/maps/DDZpXQfoSHSeDF6C7) and the south end (https://goo.gl/maps/ymuuBCHaCydxYX647).
Is the Plimoth Plantation Highway maintained by the state?
A short section of the Ronald Reagan Hwy (also called the Cross-County Highway) near Cincinnati is unnumbered. The rest of it is part of OH-126, but the westernmost leg is unnumbered. When it was originally built (starting in the 1950s) it was all unnumbered and was called the Cross-County Highway, but when it was completed in the 1990s, 126 was rerouted from its previous alignment to the current routing. That was about the same time when it was re-named the Ronald Reagan Highway. Most people (at least my age) still call it Cross County.