I'm trying to re-create this, but I'm not sure what font they use to make these type of guidesigns.
https://ibb.co/QjdqVwp
Quote from: bacon on June 27, 2021, 05:26:29 PM
I'm trying to re-create this, but I'm not sure what font they use to make these type of guidesigns.
https://ibb.co/QjdqVwp
Clearview.
Old Georgia sign - FHWA Series D.
Some have said that Georgia's old font is closer to Series C. It wouldn't exactly match the official FHWA font anyway, because Georgia's font was designed in the 80s or 90s (possibly by a third party), and FHWA fonts had only uppercase letters until 2000 (except for series E-modified which had always had lowercase letters).
Dangit. No serifs...
Quote from: bacon on June 27, 2021, 05:26:29 PM
I'm trying to re-create this, but I'm not sure what font they use to make these type of guidesigns.
https://ibb.co/QjdqVwp
It's Georgia's mixed-case take on Series D. It's not C, it's not Clearview, it's the old version of Series D.
(https://jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/series_d.png)
Quote from: bacon on June 27, 2021, 05:26:29 PM
I'm trying to re-create this, but I'm not sure what font they use to make these type of guidesigns.
https://ibb.co/QjdqVwp
Quote from: Rothman on June 27, 2021, 05:46:18 PM
Clearview.
Made that same mistake when GDOT first switched over. A lot of people do.
The GDOT font predates Clearview by more than a decade, so I'm really not sure why so many people thought that it was Clearview when they first saw it.
Quote from: ran4sh on July 01, 2021, 12:35:47 AM
The GDOT font predates Clearview by more than a decade, so I'm really not sure why so many people thought that it was Clearview when they first saw it.
The less-font-obsessed just saw a thinner font, which usually indicates Clearview.
Quote from: Rothman on July 02, 2021, 07:21:42 PM
Quote from: ran4sh on July 01, 2021, 12:35:47 AM
The GDOT font predates Clearview by more than a decade, so I'm really not sure why so many people thought that it was Clearview when they first saw it.
The less-font-obsessed just saw a thinner font, which usually indicates Clearview.
(https://i.imgur.com/Jd4jW9J.png)
Quote from: Rothman on July 02, 2021, 07:21:42 PMThe less-font-obsessed just saw a thinner font, which usually indicates Clearview.
I think it's more a case of the deductive chain going like this: "This thing is not Highway Gothic. Clearview is the alternative to Highway Gothic that I hear about. Ergo, this must be Clearview."
It is a lot easier now to tell that the skinny font used in Georgia is not Clearview than it was fifteen years ago. StreetView didn't exist at the time. And although Georgia DOT was one of the pioneers in putting highway construction plan archives online, their signing plans were only very rarely pattern-accurate, so it was hard to tell just from plans that a different typeface was in use, let alone what it was.
That font is horrible looking though...
Quote from: J N Winkler on July 27, 2021, 02:10:28 PM
Quote from: Rothman on July 02, 2021, 07:21:42 PMThe less-font-obsessed just saw a thinner font, which usually indicates Clearview.
I think it's more a case of the deductive chain going like this: "This thing is not Highway Gothic. Clearview is the alternative to Highway Gothic that I hear about. Ergo, this must be Clearview."
It is a lot easier now to tell that the skinny font used in Georgia is not Clearview than it was fifteen years ago. StreetView didn't exist at the time. And although Georgia DOT was one of the pioneers in putting highway construction plan archives online, their signing plans were only very rarely pattern-accurate, so it was hard to tell just from plans that a different typeface was in use, let alone what it was.
Well, no. I saw a thinner font and thought it was Clearview.
Pretty strange and presumptuous of you to think otherwise...
Quote from: Rothman on July 27, 2021, 07:08:35 PMWell, no. I saw a thinner font and thought it was Clearview.
Pretty strange and presumptuous of you to think otherwise...
I wasn't talking about you specifically, but rather the people fifteen or more years ago who thought the thinner mixed-case typeface Georgia was using on signs had to be Clearview. As Ran4sh notes in the post you were replying to, this goes back quite a while--I remember MTR discussions on this topic in the early noughties, when sign images in general (whether photos or pattern-accurate sign panel detail sheets) were a lot less plentiful than they are now.
This is a rare example of a pattern-accurate GDOT sign sketch from the mid-noughties (the TIFF file from which this is extracted has a May 2007 timestamp):
(https://i.imgur.com/moxMOxb.png)
This sign sketch comes from the signing plans (sealed May 30, 2003) for TxDOT CCSJ 0167-01-083, a US 54 project in the El Paso district that was the first TxDOT advertised with pattern-accurate Clearview sign details (projects going back to late summer 2002 had had Series E Modified with the note "Use Expressway Clearview"):
(https://i.imgur.com/P1ezH29.png)
Finding these took a lot more digging back in the old days--for example, I first heard about the GDOT plan archive in 2007 from someone else who had visited their offices in person asking about signing plans.