Up until the early to mid-2000s, Mississippi didn't allow it. And now that I think about it, I can't recall seeing city limit signs in Arkansas and Illinois. I never knew what the big deal was regarding not letting cities post such signs. I'm sure each state has its reasons why.
That's weird, signing city/town lines is one of the few things ConnDOT is good for. I like how Massachusetts puts both the street name/route number and the town/city name on the overpasses.
I have to say, I like these, but only when they are a standard "City Name/CITY LIMIT" or similar. Overly ornamental, branded signs don't have a place on the Interstate system, IMO.
(https://www.aaroads.com/california/images091/ca-091_wb_exit_020_04.jpg)
Here's one on the sound barrier of CA 91:
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 14, 2010, 02:35:39 AM
I have to say, I like these, but only when they are a standard "City Name/CITY LIMIT" or similar. Overly ornamental, branded signs don't have a place on the Interstate system, IMO.
I'll agree there. The standard green sign that says "(insert city) Corp. Limits" is good enough. That's the ones MS cities use on the interstates.
On I-85 in south Fulton County, there are signs that read, "Union City City Limit." It's a bit redundant, because city is used in the name of the city. "Union City Corp. Limit" might be better. There was one sign that had an error in it, that read "Union City Limit."
Be well,
Bryant
I don't recall having seen any county line signs on I-78, I-287 or the New Jersey Turnpike in New Jersey.
Illinois? Really? Maybe Chicago - Richard M. Daley Mayor is exempt. :P
Quote from: Bryant5493 on June 14, 2010, 11:15:34 AM
On I-85 in south Fulton County, there are signs that read, "Union City City Limit." It's a bit redundant, because city is used in the name of the city. "Union City Corp. Limit" might be better. There was one sign that had an error in it, that read "Union City Limit."
Be well,
Bryant
The one on I-35 entering OKC reads "Oklahoma City City Limits." I'm pretty sure the Department of Redundancy Department is slipping, as had they been on the ball it would have read "City of Oklahoma City City Limits."
Quote from: jjakucyk on June 14, 2010, 12:14:56 PM
Illinois? Really? Maybe Chicago - Richard M. Daley Mayor is exempt. :P
I wasn't sure if Illinois had them or not. I should know know that, as many times as I've made the roady to Chicago in my life.
Quote from: hbelkins on June 14, 2010, 11:42:22 AM
I don't recall having seen any county line signs on I-78, I-287 or the New Jersey Turnpike in New Jersey.
I believe the Illinois Tollway Authority doesn't sign county lines, and neither does the Oklahoma Turnpike Authority.
Nor NYSTA. Do toll road authorities not like counties or something?
I think it's just a layer of abstraction that the toll authorities are attempting to enforce. Once you get on the toll road, you are on the toll road, and not directly interacting with any other geographic features (cities, counties, etc) until you get off the toll road.
It's almost the equivalent of not noting that you are flying over Suchandsuch county or state when you're on an airplane. Technically, you are in that jurisdiction, but abstractly you really aren't.
Illinois notes counties and I think the 88 tollway does or once did do the counites. I have no idea why city limits are not noted. Even Chicago isnt On the Eisenhower there is a sign that says city limits 1 mile but no city limit sign! I have no idea why
Quote from: 3467 on June 14, 2010, 04:04:59 PM
Illinois notes counties and I think the 88 tollway does or once did do the counites. I have no idea why city limits are not noted. Even Chicago isnt On the Eisenhower there is a sign that says city limits 1 mile but no city limit sign! I have no idea why
I just checked, and apparently, at least from a few places I checked on Street View, the Illinois Tollways now note county lines. IDOT-maintained roads always have, but I know the tollways did not for awhile.
Quote from: hbelkins on June 14, 2010, 11:42:22 AM
I don't recall having seen any county line signs on I-78, I-287 or the New Jersey Turnpike in New Jersey.
H.B., generally, the toll roads in New Jersey do not take part in signing town boundaries. Most interstates and other highways sign the boundaries between towns. However, only on non-Interstate roads will you find signs at county lines, and those are the ornamental kind generally.
Quote from: huskeroadgeek on June 14, 2010, 01:55:41 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on June 14, 2010, 11:42:22 AM
I don't recall having seen any county line signs on I-78, I-287 or the New Jersey Turnpike in New Jersey.
I believe the Illinois Tollway Authority doesn't sign county lines, and neither does the Oklahoma Turnpike Authority.
The Natchez Trace doesn't have county or city limits signs either.
The general procedure for Nevada is to use a "Next XX Exits" sign on freeways to denote the number of interchanges that are located within the corporate limits of the city. The sign is not always located at the actual municipal boundary, but is usually pretty close to it.
On non-freeways, a sign stating the city or town name and elevation is generally located at the city limits (or at the small-urban area limit, in the case of unincorporated towns). These are small guide signs in standard colors, for which NDOT has a standard design in it's state sign supplement. The design is similar to the "Los Angeles County Line" sign pictured above, with the elevation taking the place of the "County Line" text.
NDOT always signs the county lines on all roadway types, with the same style used on the "Los Angeles County Line" sign.
I like the ones that say "CITY/CITY LIMIT/POP. XXXX" I've never gotten why elevation is a big deal.....
BigMatt
Quote from: algorerhythms on June 14, 2010, 12:42:12 PM
Quote from: Bryant5493 on June 14, 2010, 11:15:34 AM
On I-85 in south Fulton County, there are signs that read, "Union City City Limit." It's a bit redundant, because city is used in the name of the city. "Union City Corp. Limit" might be better. There was one sign that had an error in it, that read "Union City Limit."
Be well,
Bryant
The one on I-35 entering OKC reads "Oklahoma City City Limits." I'm pretty sure the Department of Redundancy Department is slipping, as had they been on the ball it would have read "City of Oklahoma City City Limits."
Indeed (lol).
Be well,
Bryant
This is an example of city limit signs I like.
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BigMatt
If I recall, Ohio signs these things quite religiously with signs announcing counties, townships and cities and it gets interesting in cities such as Columbus where you can pass several corporation limit signs along the same highway. Indiana only signs the name of the city at corporation limits along non-interstate routes, only county lines get signed along the interstates.
Quote from: BigMatt on June 14, 2010, 09:21:05 PM
This is an example of city limit signs I like.
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BigMatt
On I-45 in Texas, every few miles there was a sign "X City Limit." (the signs on the freeway did not specify the population, but the ones on the frontage roads usually did.) My boredom with the terrain in Texas was somewhat reduced by the amusement with seeing so many "cities" without seeing anything that resembled a city. There were lots of sad-looking cattle, though.
Quote from: BigMatt on June 14, 2010, 08:32:13 PM
I like the ones that say "CITY/CITY LIMIT/POP. XXXX" I've never gotten why elevation is a big deal.....
BigMatt
It's a bigger deal in more mountainous states, especially in states with cities at very high altitudes like Colorado.
Quote from: algorerhythms on June 14, 2010, 11:30:10 PM
Quote from: BigMatt on June 14, 2010, 09:21:05 PM
This is an example of city limit signs I like.
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BigMatt
On I-45 in Texas, every few miles there was a sign "X City Limit." (the signs on the freeway did not specify the population, but the ones on the frontage roads usually did.) My boredom with the terrain in Texas was somewhat reduced by the amusement with seeing so many "cities" without seeing anything that resembled a city. There were lots of sad-looking cattle, though.
On U.S. 27, north of Downtown Chattanooga, there was a Chattanooga city limit sign every so often, I guess to let folks know that they are still in the City of Chattanooga.
Be well,
Bryant
Quote from: 3467 on June 14, 2010, 04:04:59 PM
Illinois notes counties and I think the 88 tollway does or once did do the counites. I have no idea why city limits are not noted. Even Chicago isnt On the Eisenhower there is a sign that says city limits 1 mile but no city limit sign! I have no idea why
The only city limit sign in Illinois I know of is on the Chicago Skyway (for the obvious reasons).
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They used to have a different "Welcome to Chicago" sign that had the skyline on it. It was used in the opening of the 80s TV show "Perfect Strangers".
Quote from: huskeroadgeek on June 15, 2010, 02:39:25 PM
They used to have a different "Welcome to Chicago" sign that had the skyline on it. It was used in the opening of the 80s TV show "Perfect Strangers".
There used to be a "Welcome to Chicago" sign like that on I-190 when coming out of O'Hare. However, such signs were not used in the 1980s along the expressways at the Chicago city limits.
Quote from: Brandon on June 15, 2010, 05:18:50 PM
Quote from: huskeroadgeek on June 15, 2010, 02:39:25 PM
They used to have a different "Welcome to Chicago" sign that had the skyline on it. It was used in the opening of the 80s TV show "Perfect Strangers".
There used to be a "Welcome to Chicago" sign like that on I-190 when coming out of O'Hare. However, such signs were not used in the 1980s along the expressways at the Chicago city limits.
That must be where it was filmed at then. I'd always wondered where that sign was at because I had never seen one myself at any of the expressway entrances to the city.
One city limit oddity I saw was when driving along I-59 through Pearl River, LA. The sign says "Entering Pearl River, LA Corporate Limit" or something to that effect. Usually, I seldom see the state name or abbreviation on a city limit sign, but being the first Louisiana exit on I-59, I could let that slide. Another oddity is seeing the same sign, except it said "Leaving Pearl River..." That's even more rare to me, especially on an interstate.
Ohio & Indiana have one thing in common when it comes to signing COunty Lines:
On the non-freeway routes, both states list both the county you are entering AND the county you are leaving on the same sign:
Enter
Portage County
Leave
Summit County
The real question is which state "stole" the idea from the other??? ;-)
Quote from: thenetwork on June 16, 2010, 12:49:19 AM
Ohio & Indiana have one thing in common when it comes to signing COunty Lines:
On the non-freeway routes, both states list both the county you are entering AND the county you are leaving on the same sign:
Enter
Portage County
Leave
Summit County
The real question is which state "stole" the idea from the other??? ;-)
Virginia does that as well (Enter County / Leave County). And since cities are separate from counties, there are also Enter County / Leave City signs. Occasionally, Enter City / Leave County signs have been installed in lieu of XX City Limits.
That's right. I live a block away from "Enter City of Alexandria, Leave Fairfax County." It's the only sign on US 1 telling you you're in Alexandria.
Quote from: cu2010 on June 14, 2010, 02:06:04 PM
Nor NYSTA. Do toll road authorities not like counties or something?
The Maine Turnpike signs its counties:
Example ONLY:
Entering
Kittery
------------
York County
Alabama does something similar: Leaving Lee County, Enter Chambers County, or something to that affect.
Be well,
Bryant
PennDOT seems pretty good about posting various borders. Most of the time they just use the standard blue-on-white rectangles that appear on other state roads (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=Pittsburgh&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Pittsburgh,+Allegheny,+Pennsylvania&ll=40.427267,-79.89128&spn=0.004876,0.01545&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.427323,-79.891186&panoid=Lo8PZ-BqOz2VEVgWt_w6Ow&cbp=12,239.19,,0,-1.56), though counties sometimes get a bigger green/white sign.
One difference I noticed is I-70 & I-79 in Washington & Greene counties. They use bigger versions of the blue-on-white (Example with both a green/white county sign and larger blue/white township sign beneath) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Lone+Pine,+PA&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=41.411029,93.076172&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Lone+Pine,+Washington,+Pennsylvania&ll=40.002832,-80.188694&spn=0.039251,0.090895&z=14&layer=c&cbll=40.00272,-80.188749&panoid=62SbEUtZLlhXTRKNurr2SQ&cbp=12,198.27,,0,1.86). Personally, I think they should use the bigger blue-on-white for all interstates / limited-access highways in the state, but I think that's a district thing.
To my memory, I've only really noticed the PA Turnpike post county borders... but I wouldn't be completely surprised if people knew of exceptions to that.
Quote from: Bryant5493 on June 16, 2010, 12:17:48 PM
Alabama does something similar: Leaving Lee County, Enter Chambers County, or something to that affect.
Be well,
Bryant
Is this something they recently started? I don't ever remember seeing such signs. I'm going over to Alabama next month so maybe I'll see it.
^^
I think it was on northbound I-85, from Lee to Chambers, IIRC.
Be well,
Bryant
Quote from: Mr_Northside on June 16, 2010, 12:19:55 PM
PennDOT seems pretty good about posting various borders.
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To my memory, I've only really noticed the PA Turnpike post county borders... but I wouldn't be completely surprised if people knew of exceptions to that.
IIRC I-80 in PA consistently has the green/white county signs. However, other signs like borough, town and township are hit ad miss. i.e. In other words, in the middle of nowhere, you'll see a township sign but you won't see another for 50 miles. My home town of Bloomsburg used to have signs along I-80 in the short stretch it actually enters the town limits, but I don't recall whether they were still there in May or not.
Quote from: golden eagle on June 16, 2010, 12:21:08 PM
Quote from: Bryant5493 on June 16, 2010, 12:17:48 PM
Alabama does something similar: Leaving Lee County, Enter Chambers County, or something to that affect.
Be well,
Bryant
Is this something they recently started? I don't ever remember seeing such signs. I'm going over to Alabama next month so maybe I'll see it.
No, not really. There are signs like that on I-65 at the Chilton/Shelby County line. They have been there as long as I can remember.
Quote from: jdb1234 on June 16, 2010, 08:04:45 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on June 16, 2010, 12:21:08 PM
Quote from: Bryant5493 on June 16, 2010, 12:17:48 PM
Alabama does something similar: Leaving Lee County, Enter Chambers County, or something to that affect.
Be well,
Bryant
Is this something they recently started? I don't ever remember seeing such signs. I'm going over to Alabama next month so maybe I'll see it.
No, not really. There are signs like that on I-65 at the Chilton/Shelby County line. They have been there as long as I can remember.
Usually Alabama signs their county lines as follows:
Enter
County Name
County
The Chilton/Shelby County Line sign and the Lee/Chambers County Line sign are some of the few that I have seen in the state that are signed with both counties.
Quote from: topay on June 16, 2010, 07:32:10 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on June 16, 2010, 12:49:19 AM
Ohio & Indiana have one thing in common when it comes to signing COunty Lines:
On the non-freeway routes, both states list both the county you are entering AND the county you are leaving on the same sign:
Enter
Portage County
Leave
Summit County
The real question is which state "stole" the idea from the other??? ;-)
Virginia does that as well (Enter County / Leave County). And since cities are separate from counties, there are also Enter County / Leave City signs. Occasionally, Enter City / Leave County signs have been installed in lieu of XX City Limits.
Neither Ohio nor Indiana sign the Enter/Leave county sign on its interstates (sans Indiana Toll Road)
N.C. has a variation on the Enter/Leave non-interstate county sign...or should I say Welcome To/Leaving county sign which looks kind of like:
WELCOME TO
NASH CO LEAVING
WILSON CO
Indiana Toll Road: ENTER
LAPORTE
LEAVE
PORTER
...and somehow they leave out the county!
Quote from: codyg1985 on June 17, 2010, 07:44:23 AM
Quote from: jdb1234 on June 16, 2010, 08:04:45 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on June 16, 2010, 12:21:08 PM
Quote from: Bryant5493 on June 16, 2010, 12:17:48 PM
Alabama does something similar: Leaving Lee County, Enter Chambers County, or something to that affect.
Be well,
Bryant
Is this something they recently started? I don't ever remember seeing such signs. I'm going over to Alabama next month so maybe I'll see it.
No, not really. There are signs like that on I-65 at the Chilton/Shelby County line. They have been there as long as I can remember.
Usually Alabama signs their county lines as follows:
Enter
County Name
County
The Chilton/Shelby County Line sign and the Lee/Chambers County Line sign are some of the few that I have seen in the state that are signed with both counties.
Mississippi began dropping the word "enter" from county signs a few years back, primarily on the interstates and U.S. 49. I still do see the word "enter" on a number of county signs, though.
Quote from: thenetwork on June 16, 2010, 12:49:19 AM
Ohio & Indiana have one thing in common when it comes to signing COunty Lines:
On the non-freeway routes, both states list both the county you are entering AND the county you are leaving on the same sign:
Enter
Portage County
Leave
Summit County
The real question is which state "stole" the idea from the other??? ;-)
I don't know, and I don't really care who stole from whom.
Anyway, this is the sign that you were talking about.
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Quote from: juscuz410 on June 19, 2010, 12:07:23 PM
Neither Ohio nor Indiana sign the Enter/Leave county sign on its interstates (sans Indiana Toll Road)
Case in point.
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Oftentimes, when entering incorporated areas, they would have the name of a area signed, either as part of the county sign or otherwise. This is true for non-freeways as well.
In California, county lines are marked like this...
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We don't use the word "Entering" nor do we sign the exiting county.
City Limit signs (which I do not have a drawing of) list the city name on the first line. The words "CITY LIMIT" on the second line and population and elevation are on the third line in rather small letters.
Quote from: myosh_tino on June 21, 2010, 07:02:22 PM
City Limit signs (which I do not have a drawing of) list the city name on the first line. The words "CITY LIMIT" on the second line and population and elevation are on the third line in rather small letters.
Here's an example:
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The one place I've seen a psuedo-"Exiting City" sign would be a second Dixon city limit sign as you leave town on each direction of I-80.
Curious, what font did you use on that Entering/Exiting sign. I've been wanting to make some of my own and I don't know exactly what font those signs are. As for Indiana, I've even seen a sign like that along the Cardinal Greenway on the Delaware/Henry County Line.
City Limit Ends - Riverdale, GA (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Riverdale+Road,+Riverdale,+GA&sll=33.576728,-84.39311&sspn=0.015947,0.0421&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Riverdale+Rd,+Riverdale,+Clayton,+Georgia&ll=33.581983,-84.430103&spn=0.015946,0.0421&z=15&layer=c&cbll=33.582071,-84.43009&panoid=_EIUeYbYNEiDZ2A8PC0XBg&cbp=12,218.35,,0,1.61)
Be well,
Bryant
Quote from: tdindy88 on June 21, 2010, 09:46:48 PM
Curious, what font did you use on that Entering/Exiting sign. I've been wanting to make some of my own and I don't know exactly what font those signs are.
That's Series C.
Michigan is good at signing the county lines on freeways. City limits are rarer, probably because the freeways tend to bypass the municipal boundaries except in metro areas. On non-freeways, township lines are signed with small square signs, and city limits get larger rectangular signs with an additional panel underneath for the high schools' state titles. Marquette had a sign for NMU's National Championships that now appears separately several yards inside the city.
One exception to township signing: Ishpeming Township. Westwood High School of the NICE School District won a girls' basketball title. Although the district encompasses 4 townships in western Marquette County, the sign is place stand alone inside the Ishpeming Township boundaries, separate from the standard smaller township sign.
Quote from: Bryant5493 on June 16, 2010, 01:40:51 PM
^^
I think it was on northbound I-85, from Lee to Chambers, IIRC.
Be well,
Bryant
Checked when I came back from Biloxi -- this isn't the case. My bad. ;-)
Be well,
Bryant