Thought this have been a thread before, but nothing have come up in search results...
For Ohio:
- APL Signage. I'm really liking this partial APL (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4759428,-83.1190105,3a,73y,85.81h,98.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4QIeuZcfSbQEur8zQDp1jQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) style used in Michigan.
- FYA signals
- SPUI interchanges
- Dogbone interchanges
- DDI interchanges
- Side-mounted signals
- "Freeway Entrance" signs, accompanied with downward pointing arrows (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2236492,-84.58726,3a,25.7y,80.07h,88.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZA9JO_p4QEu7gL2tmcIFbg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) with route shields that the state already uses a bit.
- Enhanced mile markers on rural freeways and expressways
- Exit numbers on more non-interstate freeways and expressways
- Thermoplastic road markings.
- Signage on overpasses identifying the road on the overpass.
If backplates are used, make sure yellow reflective borders are used.
For South Carolina:
* Smooth pavement
* Mile markers every 2/10 of a mile on freeways
* Roadway lighting on freeways in the Columbia and York County areas (practically nonexistent)
* Bridge deck preservation by means of fog sealing, or reconstruction by means of concrete resurfacing/grouting (whatever NC is doing now in various places in the Charlotte area)
* Smooth pavement
For NY:
Mile-based exit numbers
Speed limits of 60 or 70
Exit numbers on non-interstate roads (they're prevalent downstate, but not common upstate, outside of future interstates and interstate extensions)
For CT:
Medians for busy surface arterials (parts of CT 10, CT 99, etc.)
Lane continuity
Super 2's and grade separations for primary routes that will never be freewayized
MN:
More flyover ramps
More control cities posted on 494/694
Quote from: vdeane on July 23, 2021, 05:02:28 PM
For NY:
Mile-based exit numbers
Speed limits of 60 or 70
Exit numbers on non-interstate roads (they're prevalent downstate, but not common upstate, outside of future interstates and interstate extensions)
Amen.
Texas:
- Enhanced mile markers to the half-mile or so on all freeways
- More FYAs
- Better "LANE ENDS" signage
- More and better acceleration lanes
Indiana:
More APL signs (the only usage that I know of is the I-65/74/465 exchanges south of Indianapolis)
Secondary control cities used between the major cities along the interstate (a practice in Illinois I'm personally fond of)
65 MPH speed limits along rural divided highways (and some two lane roads with passing lanes, similar to US 2 in Michigan)
Control cities on beltways
Conditional speed limits in work zones ("When Workers Present" )
ACTUAL "Keep Right Except to Pass" signage on every interstate/freeway (not just the Toll Road)
Rumble strips for roads with high speed limits approaching stop signs and traffic signals on a regular basis
More arrows painted on the road to warn drivers to get over when the lane ends
Acceleration lanes for traffic entering high speed roadways from at-grade intersections
Bolded segment edited in thanks to a response from 1. It conveys the message a lot better.
Quote from: nwi_navigator_1181 on July 23, 2021, 07:46:33 PM
ACTUAL "Keep Right Except To Pass" signage on every interstate/freeway (not just the Toll Road)
Fixed.
Quote from: 1 on July 23, 2021, 07:50:50 PM
Quote from: nwi_navigator_1181 on July 23, 2021, 07:46:33 PM
ACTUAL "Keep Right Except To Pass" signage on every interstate/freeway (not just the Toll Road)
Fixed.
Fair. I actually like that better.
SPUIs
Kansas:
- Jughandles
- Permanent Michigan Lefts (There were two temporary ones in a construction zone, however.)
- Routings for US Highways that actually aid in navigational purposes rather than reflecting desired numbers of miles for the state highway system
- State highways being allowed to exist entirely within city limits
- More instances of RIRO-only situations on US/state highways (Example: Why does US 24 need all these unprotected crossings here: https://goo.gl/maps/TswtoCmbaRkmzfXZ8 ?)
- Exit numbers on non-Interstate freeways
- Clearview *Ducks*
Quote from: nwi_navigator_1181 on July 23, 2021, 07:46:33 PM
Indiana:
More APL signs (the only usage that I know of is the I-65/74/465 exchanges south of Indianapolis)
There's a bunch more that popped up recently (I-65 in both directions between MP 129 and MP 130 as well as the I-65 SB exit 114), and more are planned on the NE side with I-465/69 interchange...
Virginia: More usage of 65 and 70 mph speed limits in urban areas. As far as rural speed limits, VDOT is quite good at posting state maximum permitted by law (70 mph) on all rural interstate highway segments. Urban areas... they tend to shy to 55 mph and maybe 60 mph more often than is reasonable despite nothing preventing them from going higher. Occasionally, you get a reasonably posted 65 mph urban speed limit (such as the recently increased from 60 mph I-64 segment in Newport News, I-95 immediately north of Richmond, etc.), but not often.
Ramp meters on I-4.
NC implement of 65 mph speed limits on 4-lane divided highways.
Signed county routes and consistent business routes, for one. Washington lags behind in this aspect.
For Texas:
More 3dis
Exit numbers on all freeways
more left exits (I like them; im weird I know)
more reliable multiplex signing
DPS offices to get my driver's license renewed
California:
#1 for me is route continuity (and emphasizing navigation even through non-state-maintained segments - so like Massachusetts) rather than signage reflecting who maintains the road.
#2 would be reducing usage of the Implied TO and instead actually identifying a road all the way towards the end. Great example of where this has been done nicely now is US 101 south of the Four-Level, which in the past was identified on the exits from 110 as "I-5 South Santa Ana/I-10 East San Bernardino" but now is "US 101 TO I-5/I-10/Route 60".
#3 is something that would never happen, but wishing some of the old US routes had been left alone the way East Coast states did when locating Interstates on parallel freeways. I totally understand why that didn't happen in California, but really US 99 should have remained as a one-state US route at least in retrospect.
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 24, 2021, 03:15:12 AM
NC implement of 65 mph speed limits on 4-lane divided highways.
Has North Carolina used 65 mph speed limits on non-limited-access highways in the past? I'm not sure. But I do agree it would be nice to see more widespread.
Illinois:
* 4 and 5 level stack interchanges
* Continuous mile makers for the length of a route, though the current ones that reset at the county lines are better than nothing
* Interchange sequence/"Exit Menu" signs (example from Wisconsin (https://goo.gl/maps/mxZRqyCGBZZNW82Y7)
* Greater use of exit numbering on non-interstate freeways
* 75 mph rural speed limits on interstates
* 60 or 65 mph speed limits on rural two lane roads. Particularly 65 since that was used prior to everything getting messed up in the 1970's, but 60 would be better than nothing.
* Overhead lane usage signs on arterials example from Wisconsin (https://goo.gl/maps/mxZRqyCGBZZNW82Y7)
* Yield controlled right turns
* Use of 'fixed' travel time signs (example from Indiana (https://goo.gl/maps/DqpyjUn1C1b2VCKr8))
I'll add for Virginia: if we're making full on changes: 75 mph speed limits on rural limited access highways, 65 mph on non-limited-access highways.
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 24, 2021, 11:58:07 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 24, 2021, 03:15:12 AM
NC implement of 65 mph speed limits on 4-lane divided highways.
Has North Carolina used 65 mph speed limits on non-limited-access highways in the past? I'm not sure. But I do agree it would be nice to see more widespread.
Don't think so.
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 24, 2021, 12:19:13 PM
I'll add for Virginia: if we're making full on changes: 75 mph speed limits on rural limited access highways, 65 mph on non-limited-access highways.
Would be great for North Carolina too. People speed like crazy
80-85 MPH speed limits on rural Interstates and more frequent 65 MPH two lanes (California).
Quote from: nwi_navigator_1181 on July 23, 2021, 07:46:33 PM
Indiana:
More APL signs (the only usage that I know of is the I-65/74/465 exchanges south of Indianapolis)
Secondary control cities used between the major cities along the interstate (a practice in Illinois I'm personally fond of)
65 MPH speed limits along rural divided highways (and some two lane roads with passing lanes, similar to US 2 in Michigan)
Control cities on beltways
Conditional speed limits in work zones ("When Workers Present" )
ACTUAL "Keep Right Except to Pass" signage on every interstate/freeway (not just the Toll Road)
Rumble strips for roads with high speed limits approaching stop signs and traffic signals on a regular basis
More arrows painted on the road to warn drivers to get over when the lane ends
Acceleration lanes for traffic entering high speed roadways from at-grade intersections
Bolded segment edited in thanks to a response from 1. It conveys the message a lot better.
I'll add one more: 70 mph on four-lane roads with not a lot of driveways access or traffic lights
Quote from: SkyPesos on July 23, 2021, 04:16:38 PM
Thought this have been a thread before, but nothing have come up in search results...
For Ohio:
- APL Signage. I'm really liking this partial APL (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4759428,-83.1190105,3a,73y,85.81h,98.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4QIeuZcfSbQEur8zQDp1jQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) style used in Michigan.
- FYA signals
- SPUI interchanges
- Dogbone interchanges
- DDI interchanges
- Side-mounted signals
- "Freeway Entrance" signs, accompanied with downward pointing arrows (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2236492,-84.58726,3a,25.7y,80.07h,88.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZA9JO_p4QEu7gL2tmcIFbg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) with route shields that the state already uses a bit.
- Enhanced mile markers on rural freeways and expressways
- Exit numbers on more non-interstate freeways and expressways
Some more:
- 75 mph on rural freeways. A lot of other countries post 120 km/h on freeways in similar terrain and environment as Ohio, so 75 mph would match that.
- 60 mph on some rural 2-lanes.
- "Next 3 exits" sign in freeway medians, like what I see used in St Louis.
CA: Green mileposts/paddles on at least Interstate facilities. Would be nice on CA 99, CA 58, CA 60 and other routes that have substantial freeway mileage and/or serve as interregional connectors.
Quote from: sparker on July 24, 2021, 06:45:23 PM
CA: Green mileposts/paddles on at least Interstate facilities. Would be nice on CA 99, CA 58, CA 60 and other routes that have substantial freeway mileage and/or serve as interregional connectors.
Are you referring to the stacked digits whole mile ones, or enhanced mile markers commonly subdivided at 0.5, 0.2 or 0.1 intervals?
Quote from: SkyPesos on July 24, 2021, 07:43:26 PM
Quote from: sparker on July 24, 2021, 06:45:23 PM
CA: Green mileposts/paddles on at least Interstate facilities. Would be nice on CA 99, CA 58, CA 60 and other routes that have substantial freeway mileage and/or serve as interregional connectors.
Are you referring to the stacked digits whole mile ones, or enhanced mile markers commonly subdivided at 0.5, 0.2 or 0.1 intervals?
For the most part, stacked full-mile indicators would do, particularly in rural areas like I-5 in the Valley. The enhanced mile markers (here locally applied to CA 17 in Santa Clara County) might supplement those in areas where there are problematic features (such as the steep gradients on CA 58 west of Tehachapi -- the ones that could use both a climbing lane EB and truck escape ramps WB) so as to enhance the ability of first responders to pinpoint an incident or stalled vehicle. I could definitely see at least 0.2 mile indicators on I-80 from Colfax all the way over to Truckee!
Right turn arrows.
Man, I've been looking at a lot of Illinois GSV lately, and I sure do miss right turn arrows.
I wish NY would adopt better/more creative signal placements like NJ. Also mast arms weren't common until recently, and they mostly look ugly. I prefer the smaller truss arms over the huge monotubes.
Kentucky:
END signs.
Higher speed limits.
2+1 corridors
Unique state highway route markers
State-named interstate route markers
Square markers for three- and four-digit routes
Georgia
Should use these features which are common in NC:
*Superstreet intersections for divided highways (This is something GA has started to do)
*Exit numbering for non-Interstate freeways uses the mileage from state border (Currently they are either non-numbered, sequential numbered, or numbered based on a GA SR mileage which resets at each county line)
Should also use these features:
*Proper warning for traffic lights on high-speed roads. GDOT used to do this, by having beacons mounted with a traffic signal warning sign that turn on when the light being approached is red or there may be congestion bc it just turned green, while turn off if the traffic is free-flowing on a green light. The current practice is simply for the beacon to flash at all times (requiring the driver to judge for themselves if the light is going to stay green or change to red).
*Mile markers on all state routes that count *state* mileage, and prioritize US routes (the current mile markers only count miles by county/they reset at county lines, and they prioritize the GA SR even if there is a US route).
California:
SPUI
Parclo B4
Exit numbers on all interchanges
Thermoplastic lines
Thermoplastic line based rumble strips across the lane
Yield signs instead of stop signs
Signed county roads
Massachusetts:
Stack Interchanges
SPUIs
DDIs
Michigan Lefts
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 24, 2021, 02:15:25 AM
Virginia: More usage of 65 and 70 mph speed limits in urban areas. As far as rural speed limits, VDOT is quite good at posting state maximum permitted by law (70 mph) on all rural interstate highway segments. Urban areas... they tend to shy to 55 mph and maybe 60 mph more often than is reasonable despite nothing preventing them from going higher. Occasionally, you get a reasonably posted 65 mph urban speed limit (such as the recently increased from 60 mph I-64 segment in Newport News, I-95 immediately north of Richmond, etc.), but not often.
I'd like the General Assembly to amend the statute to give VDOT more discretion as to speed limits on non-Interstate-grade roads. Under the law as it's now written, the maximum allowable speed limit in Virginia on any road, or segment of road, with at-grade access is 55 mph unless the same statute contains a specific exception (all of which allow only for 60 mph). I'd like to see the statute allow, but not require, up to the statewide maximum (currently 70 mph) regardless of the type of road. In other words, let the traffic engineers handle it.
I'd like to see North Carolina post more signs that set off tolbs17.
:bigass:
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 28, 2021, 07:42:54 AM
I'd like the General Assembly to amend the statute to give VDOT more discretion as to speed limits on non-Interstate-grade roads. Under the law as it's now written, the maximum allowable speed limit in Virginia on any road, or segment of road, with at-grade access is 55 mph unless the same statute contains a specific exception (all of which allow only for 60 mph). I'd like to see the statute allow, but not require, up to the statewide maximum (currently 70 mph) regardless of the type of road. In other words, let the traffic engineers handle it.
I agree 100%. An outdated statute determining that 55 mph or 60 mph is the maximum safe speed on any roadway not built to limited access standards is purely artificial. The vast majority of divided highways in the state can easily handle at least 65 mph and even up to 70 mph on some of the more modern designed ones. Even a number of two lane roadways, depending on design, could be at least 60 or 65 mph.
The speed limits should be set by engineers, not a statue. I'd even argue let the interstate speeds exclusively bump to 75 mph with everything else 70 mph, but obviously neither of these will ever happen in the name of "safety" . It's ridiculous and any basic logic of reality conflicts it.
But it's important to note, all interstates in urban areas can legally be posted to 70 mph, but VDOT shy's away from this far too often, so it makes me question how willing they would be on the arterial system. A speed limit of 65 mph should at least be widespread on rural segments of four lane divided highway, in the sense 60 mph is used now.
Texas permits the speed limit of 75 mph to be posted anywhere, and engineers have no problem sharing that common rural interstate speed limit with thousands of miles of two lane roadway and four lane divided highway that can safely handle it. There's no discrimination. Only 80 mph and 85 mph are restricted to limited access roads and certain ones, but I'd consider those more "special exceptions" . That said, I believe Texas should expand the 80 mph limit to all rural interstate highways, and keep all other roads at 75 mph.
Lots of good California ones, but I'd add: allowing for signing state routes on roads that are not actually state-maintained. And I suppose the other way around too, not requiring state route signage on all state-maintained roads.
Quote from: sparker on July 25, 2021, 04:03:17 AM
Quote from: SkyPesos on July 24, 2021, 07:43:26 PM
Quote from: sparker on July 24, 2021, 06:45:23 PM
CA: Green mileposts/paddles on at least Interstate facilities. Would be nice on CA 99, CA 58, CA 60 and other routes that have substantial freeway mileage and/or serve as interregional connectors.
Are you referring to the stacked digits whole mile ones, or enhanced mile markers commonly subdivided at 0.5, 0.2 or 0.1 intervals?
For the most part, stacked full-mile indicators would do, particularly in rural areas like I-5 in the Valley. The enhanced mile markers (here locally applied to CA 17 in Santa Clara County) might supplement those in areas where there are problematic features (such as the steep gradients on CA 58 west of Tehachapi -- the ones that could use both a climbing lane EB and truck escape ramps WB) so as to enhance the ability of first responders to pinpoint an incident or stalled vehicle. I could definitely see at least 0.2 mile indicators on I-80 from Colfax all the way over to Truckee!
Any photos/examples of those CA 17 enhanced MMs? I did a search on GSV, and didn't find any.
Quote from: SkyPesos on July 28, 2021, 03:19:30 PM
Quote from: sparker on July 25, 2021, 04:03:17 AM
Quote from: SkyPesos on July 24, 2021, 07:43:26 PM
Quote from: sparker on July 24, 2021, 06:45:23 PM
CA: Green mileposts/paddles on at least Interstate facilities. Would be nice on CA 99, CA 58, CA 60 and other routes that have substantial freeway mileage and/or serve as interregional connectors.
Are you referring to the stacked digits whole mile ones, or enhanced mile markers commonly subdivided at 0.5, 0.2 or 0.1 intervals?
For the most part, stacked full-mile indicators would do, particularly in rural areas like I-5 in the Valley. The enhanced mile markers (here locally applied to CA 17 in Santa Clara County) might supplement those in areas where there are problematic features (such as the steep gradients on CA 58 west of Tehachapi -- the ones that could use both a climbing lane EB and truck escape ramps WB) so as to enhance the ability of first responders to pinpoint an incident or stalled vehicle. I could definitely see at least 0.2 mile indicators on I-80 from Colfax all the way over to Truckee!
Any photos/examples of those CA 17 enhanced MMs? I did a search on GSV, and didn't find any.
Here you go:
Quote from: myosh_tino on November 07, 2020, 03:29:00 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.markyville.com%2Faaroads%2Fca17-milemarker.jpg&hash=1f2a347ac765d28605b75b3cd5b3008e0a50d62f)
Quote from: sparker on July 25, 2021, 04:03:17 AM
The enhanced mile markers (here locally applied to CA 17 in Santa Clara County) might supplement those in areas where there are problematic features (such as the steep gradients on CA 58 west of Tehachapi -- the ones that could use both a climbing lane EB and truck escape ramps WB) so as to enhance the ability of first responders to pinpoint an incident or stalled vehicle.
Indeed.
For example:
Quote from: ceqanet.opr.ca.gov
SCH Number – 2020060038
Public Agency – California Department of Transportation, District 4 (DOT)
Document Title – Install Intermediate Enhanced Reference Location Signs
Posted – 6/3/2020
Caltrans plans to stencil intermediate enhanced reference location (IERL) markings and install IERL signs in the MazArthur Maze freeway interchange. The purpose is to reduce the time it takes for emergency first responders to arrive at accident locations in the MacArthur Maze by having special signs throughout the interchanges. The need is that victims and witnesses of roadway emergencies are often unable to correctly identify their exact location.
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 24, 2021, 12:15:25 PM
Illinois:
* 4 and 5 level stack interchanges
* Continuous mile makers for the length of a route, though the current ones that reset at the county lines are better than nothing
* Interchange sequence/"Exit Menu" signs (example from Wisconsin (https://goo.gl/maps/mxZRqyCGBZZNW82Y7)
* Greater use of exit numbering on non-interstate freeways
* 75 mph rural speed limits on interstates
* 60 or 65 mph speed limits on rural two lane roads. Particularly 65 since that was used prior to everything getting messed up in the 1970's, but 60 would be better than nothing.
* Overhead lane usage signs on arterials example from Wisconsin (https://goo.gl/maps/mxZRqyCGBZZNW82Y7)
* Yield controlled right turns
* Use of 'fixed' travel time signs (example from Indiana (https://goo.gl/maps/DqpyjUn1C1b2VCKr8))
Some more to add for Illinois.
- IDOT: MUTCD-standard enhanced mile markers specifically on all urban/suburban Interstates and other routes like US-41 in Lake County
- IDOT, specifically District 1: More FYA signals
- IDOT, specifically District 1: Proper exit gore signage (seriously, they need to stop it with this cheap, ugly, poor-placed garbage (https://goo.gl/maps/zmNQJqNyZLM6betC8))
- More medians to control left turns on major arterials
- More innovative interchange/intersection designs: more DDIs, roundabouts, SPUIs, Michigan lefts, etc., and while I'm at it, less cloverleafs
- IDOT and ISTHA: More complete access interchanges (thinking mostly of the Edens and the Tri-State)
- ISTHA: More interchanges in general (with cashless tolling becoming a thing, there are a couple roads I'd like to see ramps added in Lake County)
- Cook County: More usage of pentagon shields in the outskirts of the county
Quote from: citrus on July 28, 2021, 03:13:18 PM
Lots of good California ones, but I'd add: allowing for signing state routes on roads that are not actually state-maintained. And I suppose the other way around too, not requiring state route signage on all state-maintained roads.
For the latter, isn't that already the case (and not in a good way?)
I know Route 18 was scantly signed ca. 2014 between Route 138 in Palmdale and US 395 - and that's a major regional connector!
Route 128 barely has signs between Winters and Monticello too (I've biked and driven this segment).
When I did my Old US 40 roadtrip a few days ago from SF to Sacramento, it was striking how Historic US 40 in Fairfield and Vacaville are legit better signed than the entirety of some state routes elsewhere in California!
I'll add a few more for California, all of which pertain to freeways. I feel like aside from the route signage continuity problems that others have noted, CalTrans does a pretty good job with most non-freeway routes:
- External exit tabs
- Continuous lighting on urban freeways
- Signing of which route is crossing over/under freeway (such as Arizona does https://goo.gl/maps/LUAtJfDE1fHctMbG8 (https://goo.gl/maps/LUAtJfDE1fHctMbG8))
Pennsylvania:
More Jersey style expressways instead of light after light
Mile markers on state highways and US Routes
Numbered exits on non-interstate freeways
Shoulders on two lane roads
Bring back rural waysides
Better pavement and design
Get rid of NO MERGE AREA design
Affordable Tolls (PTC, but PennDOT/Legislative fault)
PennDOT has done better recently, there's just so much catching up to do
SM-T290
Arizona:
- Enhanced Mile Markers
- 3dis
- Control Cities for Urban Freeways
- APL signage (there are only a very limited amount of APL signage)
- Travel Times for roads under construction (for some reason, Arizona eliminates travel times for roads under construction and then takes a long time to restore them after the construction is finished)
- Parclos
Also, for Massachusetts, access management like they have in Virginia. It makes the roads safer and cuts down on the number of billboards, strip malls, and car dealerships that you're driving past.
Quote from: kernals12 on July 29, 2021, 06:38:54 AM
Also, for Massachusetts, access management like they have in Virginia. It makes the roads safer and cuts down on the number of billboards, strip malls, and car dealerships that you're driving past.
I'll second this for PA
See US 11/15 In Camp Hill and Hummels Wharf/Shamokin Dam, or any business highway near Philadelphia
SM-T290
Quote from: sbeaver44 on July 29, 2021, 08:04:25 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on July 29, 2021, 06:38:54 AM
Also, for Massachusetts, access management like they have in Virginia. It makes the roads safer and cuts down on the number of billboards, strip malls, and car dealerships that you're driving past.
I'll second this for PA
See US 11/15 In Camp Hill and Hummels Wharf/Shamokin Dam, or any business highway near Philadelphia
SM-T290
See MA 9.
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 28, 2021, 10:25:27 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 28, 2021, 07:42:54 AM
I'd like the General Assembly to amend the statute to give VDOT more discretion as to speed limits on non-Interstate-grade roads. Under the law as it's now written, the maximum allowable speed limit in Virginia on any road, or segment of road, with at-grade access is 55 mph unless the same statute contains a specific exception (all of which allow only for 60 mph). I'd like to see the statute allow, but not require, up to the statewide maximum (currently 70 mph) regardless of the type of road. In other words, let the traffic engineers handle it.
Texas permits the speed limit of 75 mph to be posted anywhere, and engineers have no problem sharing that common rural interstate speed limit with thousands of miles of two lane roadway and four lane divided highway that can safely handle it. There's no discrimination. Only 80 mph and 85 mph are restricted to limited access roads and certain ones, but I'd consider those more "special exceptions" . That said, I believe Texas should expand the 80 mph limit to all rural interstate highways, and keep all other roads at 75 mph.
I know in North Carolina, they did plan to raise the speed limit on freeways to 75 mph but that plan is dead it seems like. Unless they are trying to wait for the western states to raise it first... Many freeways can easily handle it (except for busy highways like I-485 and I-540) But elsewhere, I can definitely see it happening.
https://myfox8.com/news/nc-senate-approves-75-mph-speed-limit/
New York:
* Speed limits over 55 MPH
* Grade-separated interchanges on surface roads
* Business and alternate routes
* Signed county route numbers in the counties that don't have them
Utah:
Four laned rural corridors where traffic warrants it (cough US 6)
Speed limits higher than 65 on non-Interstates
More full system interchanges, not the half-assed things that get built (looking at you, Bangerter at 15 and 201)
Signed county routes in the vast majority of counties which lack them
Far post mounted traffic signals
Horizontal traffic signals
Rumble strips when roads approach stop signs
Control cities on beltways
Quote from: skluth on July 23, 2021, 07:56:53 PM
SPUIs
I would say this too. There are a lot of places in Indiana that could benefit from them.
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 24, 2021, 12:28:33 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 24, 2021, 11:58:07 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 24, 2021, 03:15:12 AM
NC implement of 65 mph speed limits on 4-lane divided highways.
Has North Carolina used 65 mph speed limits on non-limited-access highways in the past? I'm not sure. But I do agree it would be nice to see more widespread.
Don't think so.
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 24, 2021, 12:19:13 PM
I'll add for Virginia: if we're making full on changes: 75 mph speed limits on rural limited access highways, 65 mph on non-limited-access highways.
Would be great for North Carolina too. People speed like crazy
I have only seen a few instances of 60 posted on 4 lane divided routes. Its usually kept to 55. There are also more than a few 2 lane state/US highways that could easily handle 65+. US 64 between western Statesville and Taylorsville could have a 70 limit no problem; its a 2 lane road built to freeway standards. I definitely don't find myself cruising at 90 on that stretch
^ Agreed. And further east, there's a larger number of 60 mph divided routes, though a lot of 55 mph where it could still easily be much higher.
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 24, 2021, 12:15:25 PM
Illinois:
* 4 and 5 level stack interchanges
* Continuous mile makers for the length of a route, though the current ones that reset at the county lines are better than nothing
* Interchange sequence/"Exit Menu" signs (example from Wisconsin (https://goo.gl/maps/mxZRqyCGBZZNW82Y7)
* Greater use of exit numbering on non-interstate freeways
* 75 mph rural speed limits on interstates
* 60 or 65 mph speed limits on rural two lane roads. Particularly 65 since that was used prior to everything getting messed up in the 1970's, but 60 would be better than nothing.
* Overhead lane usage signs on arterials example from Wisconsin (https://goo.gl/maps/mxZRqyCGBZZNW82Y7)
* Yield controlled right turns
* Use of 'fixed' travel time signs (example from Indiana (https://goo.gl/maps/DqpyjUn1C1b2VCKr8))
definitely the "Fixed" travel time signs. Not on message boards. Especially in metro areas.
Also, the sequence of exits sign as well.
Good calls.
Ramp meters are an interesting one. Not used much in NY, but not sure I want them either.
Also for NY...
-Better mile markers on state routes
-County and town line signs on the Thruway
-Town line signs on all interstates
-2 mile advance signs for rural exits (this is becoming more common in I-81 and needs to become NYSTA standard)
Other than Wisconsin, what other states use a sign like this? While this sign is in Illinois, this is a sometimes used WisDOT practice with a city with multiple exits.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4697664,-88.9949755,3a,29.8y,25.42h,90.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbfkqg0w0jtLJqVTMWA7WSQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Personally, I prefer this practice instead of this sign just saying "Beloit Next 3 Exits".
Quote from: hobsini2 on October 10, 2021, 05:24:58 PM
Other than Wisconsin, what other states use a sign like this? While this sign is in Illinois, this is a sometimes used WisDOT practice with a city with multiple exits.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4697664,-88.9949755,3a,29.8y,25.42h,90.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbfkqg0w0jtLJqVTMWA7WSQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Personally, I prefer this practice instead of this sign just saying "Beloit Next 3 Exits".
I know there's some in Missouri. I-70 WB have a sign for "St Charles Exits" with the next 3 exits (229, 228 and 227) listed just east of the eastern Missouri River crossing.
EDIT: Seems like it's gone after the Convention Center exit opened, but this is what it used to look like: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7609209,-90.4728443,3a,22.8y,272.51h,99.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0BcUrAsxf83A7x5xqwTYWQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: hobsini2 on October 10, 2021, 05:24:58 PM
Other than Wisconsin, what other states use a sign like this? While this sign is in Illinois, this is a sometimes used WisDOT practice with a city with multiple exits.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4697664,-88.9949755,3a,29.8y,25.42h,90.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbfkqg0w0jtLJqVTMWA7WSQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Personally, I prefer this practice instead of this sign just saying "Beloit Next 3 Exits".
It's in the MUTCD, so theoretically any state could use it. Oklahoma has used it to sign exits that serve OU facilities (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1483145,-97.4721663,3a,15y,350.78h,91.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s11SfgsK_e2UUkdlPMmQY_g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).
It's not terrible, but I prefer the Kansas method of doing the "City, Next 3 exits" and then supplementing that with next-three-exit menu signs in the median.
Quote from: webny99 on October 10, 2021, 10:29:09 AM
Ramp meters are an interesting one. Not used much in NY, but not sure I want them either.
They're not used much upstate, but the area around NYC has a few. They're on I-495, the Northern State Parkway, I-87/I-287, and I-287 (to clarify, they're on both the Cross-Westchester and the Thruway mainline where the overlap is); possibly elsewhere too.
In all states I wish superstreets and Michigan Lefts were used more, in conjunction with traffic signal progression. Superstreets are ideal because they separate the road into different signals for each direction, which means each direction's traffic signals can be timed like a one-way street instead of having to try to fit a two-way progression where it may not work.
In Georgia I wish the state would properly sign the entrances to freeways per the MUTCD. For example, there is guidance for overhead signage if a multi-lane road approaches freeway on-ramps, but Georgia often uses ground-mounted signs only (which, on a multi-lane road, a vehicle in the right lane may block the view from vehicles using the left lane).
Quote from: hobsini2 on October 10, 2021, 05:24:58 PM
Other than Wisconsin, what other states use a sign like this? While this sign is in Illinois, this is a sometimes used WisDOT practice with a city with multiple exits.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4697664,-88.9949755,3a,29.8y,25.42h,90.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbfkqg0w0jtLJqVTMWA7WSQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Minnesota has a few sets of these. St. Cloud, Owatonna, Albert Lea if I recall correctly. Smaller cities with multiple exits generally just get the "(city) NEXT _ EXITS" sign.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on October 11, 2021, 01:37:47 AM
Quote from: hobsini2 on October 10, 2021, 05:24:58 PM
Other than Wisconsin, what other states use a sign like this? While this sign is in Illinois, this is a sometimes used WisDOT practice with a city with multiple exits.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4697664,-88.9949755,3a,29.8y,25.42h,90.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbfkqg0w0jtLJqVTMWA7WSQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Minnesota has a few sets of these. St. Cloud, Owatonna, Albert Lea if I recall correctly. Smaller cities with multiple exits generally just get the "(city) NEXT _ EXITS" sign.
IIRC, Mankato and North Mankato each get one of those on US 169. Fairmont and Worthington also get one on I-90. OTOH, it would be tough to make one for Austin, which has 8 exits.
As for Iowa, two rather obvious things to do would be to pave the shoulders of freeways and expressways and have right turn lanes at intersections where right turns are frequent.
Louisiana:
* Signage that doesn't trigger OCD.
* Using display boards to display travel times instead of witticisms.
* FREEWAY ENTRANCE signs.
* Texas-style frontage roads in urban areas.
* Business interstates instead of legacy US routes.
* Ability to use TxTag on the Causeway and other few tolls roads that we have.
* Pavement that lasts.
Quote from: jbnv on October 11, 2021, 01:46:02 PM
Louisiana:
* FREEWAY ENTRANCE signs.
* Business interstates instead of legacy US routes.
Is there any specific reason why these 2 are really needed? We seem to do fine without FREEWAY ENTRANCE signs as well as business interstates. We are getting rid of them cause they cause confusion to drivers.
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 11, 2021, 03:14:48 PM
We are getting rid of them cause they cause confusion to drivers.
Meanwhile in NY we're in the process of adding one...
Runaway truck ramps. Illinois isn't flat, after all.
Quote from: vdeane on October 11, 2021, 09:02:37 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 11, 2021, 03:14:48 PM
We are getting rid of them cause they cause confusion to drivers.
Meanwhile in NY we're in the process of adding one...
Yes, I've noticed that. FREEWAY ENTRANCE signs have been appearing everywhere, seemingly out of nowhere.
Quote from: webny99 on October 11, 2021, 11:09:17 PM
Quote from: vdeane on October 11, 2021, 09:02:37 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 11, 2021, 03:14:48 PM
We are getting rid of them cause they cause confusion to drivers.
Meanwhile in NY we're in the process of adding one...
Yes, I've noticed that. FREEWAY ENTRANCE signs have been appearing everywhere, seemingly out of nowhere.
I'm more into freeway ends compared to entrance signs.
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 11, 2021, 11:28:03 PM
Quote from: webny99 on October 11, 2021, 11:09:17 PM
Quote from: vdeane on October 11, 2021, 09:02:37 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 11, 2021, 03:14:48 PM
We are getting rid of them cause they cause confusion to drivers.
Meanwhile in NY we're in the process of adding one...
Yes, I've noticed that. FREEWAY ENTRANCE signs have been appearing everywhere, seemingly out of nowhere.
I'm more into freeway ends compared to entrance signs.
So a sign like this (replacing the Chinese highway marker with a Interstate/US/state one of course)?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/China_road_sign_%E8%B7%AF_54b.jpg)
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 11, 2021, 03:14:48 PM
Quote from: jbnv on October 11, 2021, 01:46:02 PM
Louisiana:
* Business interstates instead of legacy US routes.
Is there any specific reason why these 2 are really needed? We seem to do fine without FREEWAY ENTRANCE signs as well as business interstates. We are getting rid of them cause they cause confusion to drivers.
Which part does "We are getting rid of them cause they cause confusion to drivers" apply to?
Specifically re business interstates: All of Louisiana's 2DIs run parallel to an older US highway. In some cases, only a few miles separates the interstate and the old highway. I don't see any need to keep some of those highways signed as US highways since they aren't the primary highways any more.
Specifically:
* US 51 in LaPlace: The southernmost few miles of this highway connect the southern terminus at US 61 to I-55. Then US 51 is multiplexed onto I-55 for ~25 miles before splitting and going into Hammond. The *only* reason US 51 still exists south of Hammond is for those last few miles in LaPlace. That's pretty much what a business interstate is for in the first place.
* Other examples of legacy US routes effectively replaced by interstates (within Louisiana): US 11; US 190 east of Baton Rouge; US 90 from Lake Charles to Lafayette; US 90 through New Orleans; US 51 from Hammond to Amite. Most or all of these already serve as alternate routes for their respective interstates, so why not put up a green shield to indicate that?
P.S.: Louisiana has several cases of legacy US business routes that serve little if any purpose a short distance from the parent highway. Some examples: 51 in Hammond; 90 in Lake Charles; 90 in Lafayette; 90 in metro New Orleans (with the Westbank Expressway signed as the business route!?!); 190 in Slidell; 165 in Monroe. Now obviously these could and probably should be deleted without converting them to business interstates. The point of including them here is that if you want to talk about confusion, then I see more of that in these legacy routes than in Business Interstate labels.
Quote from: jbnv on October 12, 2021, 01:05:35 AM
90 in metro New Orleans (with the Westbank Expressway signed as the business route!?!);
I was confused about that the first time looking at it. Primary route on an arterial and a freeway as a business route? That is pretty much the complete opposite of what a Business route is supposed to be. Either change the banner to "Bypass", or switch the 90 and 90 Business designations.
Quote from: SkyPesos on October 12, 2021, 01:36:21 AM
Quote from: jbnv on October 12, 2021, 01:05:35 AM
90 in metro New Orleans (with the Westbank Expressway signed as the business route!?!);
I was confused about that the first time looking at it. Primary route on an arterial and a freeway as a business route? That is pretty much the complete opposite of what a Business route is supposed to be. Either change the banner to "Bypass", or switch the 90 and 90 Business designations.
One of these years it will become part of I-49. Currently the limited-access part of the expressway has a secret I-910 designation but that won't help the several miles of the route that are currently not limited-access (short of a Wyoming I-180 sort of exemption or trick).
Quote from: webny99 on October 11, 2021, 11:09:17 PM
Quote from: vdeane on October 11, 2021, 09:02:37 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 11, 2021, 03:14:48 PM
We are getting rid of them cause they cause confusion to drivers.
Meanwhile in NY we're in the process of adding one...
Yes, I've noticed that. FREEWAY ENTRANCE signs have been appearing everywhere, seemingly out of nowhere.
I'm pretty sure that comment was with respect to business interstates. My comment was with respect to Business I-81 in Syracuse. North Carolina has removed at least one, which interestingly enough, was a former alignment of I-85 and/or I-40. Just like I-81 (without the viaduct removal), only the two states are going in opposite directions.
Quote from: vdeane on October 12, 2021, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: webny99 on October 11, 2021, 11:09:17 PM
Quote from: vdeane on October 11, 2021, 09:02:37 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 11, 2021, 03:14:48 PM
We are getting rid of them cause they cause confusion to drivers.
Meanwhile in NY we're in the process of adding one...
Yes, I've noticed that. FREEWAY ENTRANCE signs have been appearing everywhere, seemingly out of nowhere.
I'm pretty sure that comment was with respect to business interstates. My comment was with respect to Business I-81 in Syracuse. North Carolina has removed at least one, which interestingly enough, was a former alignment of I-85 and/or I-40. Just like I-81 (without the viaduct removal), only the two states are going in opposite directions.
Sorry, I thought you meant "one" as in a standard freeway entrance sign at all interchanges, which does seem to be happening as well.
Quote from: hobsini2 on October 10, 2021, 05:24:58 PM
Other than Wisconsin, what other states use a sign like this? While this sign is in Illinois, this is a sometimes used WisDOT practice with a city with multiple exits.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4697664,-88.9949755,3a,29.8y,25.42h,90.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbfkqg0w0jtLJqVTMWA7WSQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Personally, I prefer this practice instead of this sign just saying "Beloit Next 3 Exits".
So they omitted the I-43 to go with the exit of WI 81
Quote from: Big John on October 12, 2021, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on October 10, 2021, 05:24:58 PM
Other than Wisconsin, what other states use a sign like this? While this sign is in Illinois, this is a sometimes used WisDOT practice with a city with multiple exits.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4697664,-88.9949755,3a,29.8y,25.42h,90.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbfkqg0w0jtLJqVTMWA7WSQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Personally, I prefer this practice instead of this sign just saying "Beloit Next 3 Exits".
So they omitted the I-43 to go with the exit of WI 81
Probably because I-43 doesn't go into downtown Beloit and would take you away from the city rather than into it. I can see why I-43 wasn't posted on it in that context.
Quote from: hobsini2 on October 10, 2021, 05:24:58 PM
Other than Wisconsin, what other states use a sign like this? While this sign is in Illinois, this is a sometimes used WisDOT practice with a city with multiple exits.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4697664,-88.9949755,3a,29.8y,25.42h,90.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbfkqg0w0jtLJqVTMWA7WSQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Personally, I prefer this practice instead of this sign just saying "Beloit Next 3 Exits".
I have seen signs like that in West Virginia. In fact those signs are rare in Wisconsin they mostly jsut use something like Beloit next 3 exits. La Crosse I beleive is the only other place I have seen those in Wisconsin.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 11, 2021, 10:05:43 PM
Runaway truck ramps. Illinois isn't flat, after all.
There are a couple in Chester, IL
Quote from: nwi_navigator_1181 on July 23, 2021, 07:46:33 PM
Indiana:
More APL signs (the only usage that I know of is the I-65/74/465 exchanges south of Indianapolis)
There's also a few at the I-65 and I-865 interchange. Also, it seems like INDOT got into the partial APLs trend recently, as I found this one on I-65 NB on my way to Lafayette today:
(https://i.imgur.com/otNGe67.jpg)
On a serious note, Illinois needs more flyover ramps. Not just on the toll road interchanges.
In North (and South) Carolina:
Smaller, non-Interstate freeways similar to the US-378 freeway near Sumter, SC or US-221 Bypass near Marion, NC
Higher statewide maximum speed limits; I'm partial to 80 or 85 MPH for use on certain freeways and up to 75 MPH for any other road deemed safe by engineers.
Jersey style RIRO freeflowing expressways - part of Independence Boulevard in Charlotte is designed like this and they're planning to extend it
Superstreets for non-freeway 4 lane divided highways and certain other arterial roads, especially ones with state or US route numbers
Alternative intersections/interchanges - Jug handles, Michigan lefts, DDI, CFI, and roundabouts are seeing increased use, but are still uncommon
Interchanges on or between some arterial roads and non-freeway divided highways. Somewhat common, but not common enough IMO
Better advance junction signs telling what lane to be in ahead of time instead of directly at the corner of an intersection, preferably overhead if the intersection has a lot going on
Better BEGIN/END route signage
"Slower Traffic Keep Right" signs on all divided highways
Road surface painted route shields in each lane when approaching a junction - I can name one jughandle that does this, but no other major intersections including freeways; There are probably others that I haven't seen, but they are very uncommon
Planted freeway medians like on I-440 northwest of downtown Raleigh
Historic route trailblazer signs
Interstate spurs like I-585 in Spartanburg, SC just for fun
" * Interchange sequence/"Exit Menu" signs (example from Wisconsin " from Revive755 post.
These median exit listing signs are all over California, too.
Quote from: US20IL64 on October 13, 2021, 10:21:48 AM
" * Interchange sequence/"Exit Menu" signs (example from Wisconsin " from Revive755 post.
These median exit listing signs are all over California, too.
They're used in a lot of states. For another example, check the Missouri side of both the St Louis and Kansas City areas.
Quote from: SkyPesos on October 12, 2021, 09:38:57 PM
Also, it seems like INDOT got into the partial APLs trend recently, as I found this one on I-65 NB on my way to Lafayette today:
[image of partial APL]
Those are nonstandard, at least for now. The proposed new MUTCD includes a provision to allow partial APLs in some situations.
Pennsylvania
- Smooth roads that don't make you feel like you are driving in a bombed out post war Berlin any more than the rows of abandoned factories and stores already do
- Higher Speed Limits, posted at 80.
- Texas U Turns and TX style frontage roads
I would say that frontage roads and their associated u-turns should be used more in all states. It's the simple solution for how to build a road that is limited access/controlled access (the inner freeway) while still maintaining access to the adjacent properties (the frontage roads).
In Georgia there is about an 8 mile segment of I-85 in DeKalb County (Atlanta area north of the Downtown Connector) which has the Texas-style frontage roads and U-turns.
Quote from: ran4sh on October 13, 2021, 07:14:17 PM
I would say that frontage roads and their associated u-turns should be used more in all states. It's the simple solution for how to build a road that is limited access/controlled access (the inner freeway) while still maintaining access to the adjacent properties (the frontage roads).
In Georgia there is about an 8 mile segment of I-85 in DeKalb County (Atlanta area north of the Downtown Connector) which has the Texas-style frontage roads and U-turns.
Also the GA 141 (Peachtree Industrial Blvd) freeway in DeKalb and Gwinnett Counties.
Quote from: SkyPesos on October 13, 2021, 10:23:41 AM
Quote from: US20IL64 on October 13, 2021, 10:21:48 AM
" * Interchange sequence/"Exit Menu" signs (example from Wisconsin " from Revive755 post.
These median exit listing signs are all over California, too.
They're used in a lot of states. For another example, check the Missouri side of both the St Louis and Kansas City areas.
Yep, I know, but CA is most populous.
Time-of-day protected signals might be useful here, since well, protected lefts are really annoying overnight when there's large gaps in opposite traffic that one can easily make the turn
Stack interchanges
Quote from: andrepoiy on October 13, 2021, 10:49:03 PM
Time-of-day protected signals might be useful here, since well, protected lefts are really annoying overnight when there's large gaps in opposite traffic that one can easily make the turn
Those would be useful everywhere.