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What would you say is your states most famous route? If you name an interstate, you have to name a non interstate too!

MA 128.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, the Mass Pike seems like a serious contender. I actually don't know which of the two is more famous (being a local means I don't know what the rest of the country thinks).

For Michigan I'll do it like this
State highway: M-22
US highway: US-10
Interstate highway: I-75

Out of the three I-75.

Quote from: Flint1979 on October 24, 2021, 11:13:43 AM
For Michigan I'll do it like this
State highway: M-22
US highway: US-10
Interstate highway: I-75

Out of the three I-75.

I this, so let me change the topic rules:

Name 1 of each type of highway that is either locally or nationally famous in your state!

To non-roadgeeks (99.9% of the population), it's either WI-35 because it's scenic or I-39/90 because for almost a decade it possessed the record for longest stretch of active construction barrels, at almost 50 miles.

To us on the forum it's I/US-41.

I-587. :spin:

For Indiana:

Interstate - Indiana Toll Road/I-80/I-90
US Highway - US 40/Old National Road is probably the most "famous" even though it's had minimal utility since I-70
State Highway - Probably IN 37 as it was the primary Indy-Bloomington route but now that's being supplanted by I-69

CA, AZ, NM, TX, OK, KS, MO, IL: US 66

Quote from: Rothman on October 24, 2021, 11:26:36 AM
I-587. :spin:

I couldn't even tell you where I-587 is without scouring a map.

Utah:

Interstate - no obvious winner here, so probably I-15
US Highway - probably US 163 if you asked a random person anywhere, but among only Utah residents US 89 probably beats it out just because it goes where the people are
State Routes - SR 12 for its very high scenic value, though a few others like 9 and 210 are also pretty well known for the same reason

Quote from: Rothman on October 24, 2021, 11:26:36 AM
I-587. :spin:

Probably NY 17 in terms of non-interstates.

Quote from: webny99 on October 24, 2021, 11:40:22 AM

Quote from: Rothman on October 24, 2021, 11:26:36 AM
I-587. :spin:

Probably NY 17 in terms of non-interstates.

Um, NY-9A?

Quote from: 1 on October 24, 2021, 11:12:15 AM
MA 128.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, the Mass Pike seems like a serious contender. I actually don't know which of the two is more famous (being a local means I don't know what the rest of the country thinks).

I think the Mass Pike is much more well-known. I only know about MA 128 because of this forum.

However, the Mass Pike is an interstate, so MA 128 could still be the non-interstate answer. MA 28 may also be in contention, given its somewhat famous traffic issues.

Quote from: webny99 on October 24, 2021, 11:44:10 AM

Quote from: 1 on October 24, 2021, 11:12:15 AM
MA 128.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, the Mass Pike seems like a serious contender. I actually don't know which of the two is more famous (being a local means I don't know what the rest of the country thinks).

I think the Mass Pike is much more well-known. I only know about MA 128 because of this forum.

However, the Mass Pike is an interstate, so MA 128 could still be the non-interstate answer. MA 28 may also be in contention, given its somewhat famous traffic issues.

For MA I would go with the Mass Pike, the Big Dig, and US-6 on Cape Cod.

Quote from: thspfc on October 24, 2021, 11:42:09 AM

Quote from: webny99 on October 24, 2021, 11:40:22 AM

Quote from: Rothman on October 24, 2021, 11:26:36 AM
I-587. :spin:

Probably NY 17 in terms of non-interstates.

Um, NY-9A?

Hmm, I could be wrong but I feel like NY 9A is not really famous unto itself in the same way as NY 17.

NY 9A doesn't really mean anything specific to me other than the fact that it's a road in the NYC area.

Going for nationally famous.

Colorado:
Interstate: I-70
U.S. Highway: US550 (Million Dollar Highway)
State Highway: CO5 (Mt. Evans Highway)

Chris

Hawaii:

Interstate: H-3
US route: n/a
State route: HI 360 (the most interesting part of the Hana Hwy)

Alaska:

Interstate: Almost nobody knows Alaska even has Interstates.
US route: n/a
State route: AK 11, from "Ice Road Truckers" rather than personal experience; otherwise, AK 3 (Parks Hwy). While the Alaska Highway (part of AK 2) is more famous overall, most of it is in Canada.

California:

State route: CA 1, not even close

North Carolina:

I-85, hits the 3 largest population centers (Triangle, Greensboro, Charlotte). Busy long-haul corridor with tons of commercial and industrial centers along the way. The expansion projects between charlotte and greensboro really brought the corridor to life. I still remember the old bridge over the Yadkin river. it was narrow and sketchy, with an awkward left exit just north of it.

NC 12, legendary coastal route along the OBX. Anyone who's been out there knows how unique NC 12 is.

US highway is a tricky one. I say its between US 70 and US 74. Both route traverse the entire state west to east and go through many different types of terrain and towns. US 64 does as well, but it seems to be less well-known outside of the Raleigh-OBX segment.


now for infamous its obvious:

I-95

Quote from: 1 on October 24, 2021, 11:12:15 AM
MA 128.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, the Mass Pike seems like a serious contender. I actually don't know which of the two is more famous (being a local means I don't know what the rest of the country thinks).

This might make you sad, but prior to joining this site, I had never heard of MA128.

Chris

Quote from: jayhawkco on October 24, 2021, 12:42:42 PM

Quote from: 1 on October 24, 2021, 11:12:15 AM
MA 128.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, the Mass Pike seems like a serious contender. I actually don't know which of the two is more famous (being a local means I don't know what the rest of the country thinks).

This might make you sad, but prior to joining this site, I had never heard of MA128.

Chris

It's used figuratively in the same way that "inside the Beltway" is for DC, although such a term is more common for DC than Boston.

NJ:
Nationally: NJ Turnpike/I-95
Locally: Garden State Parkway

DE:
Nationally: Delaware Turnpike/I-95
Locally: DE 1

I-95, US 50, MD 404

Quote from: Flint1979 on October 24, 2021, 11:13:43 AM
For Michigan ...

I think the most famous would be 8 Mile Road.

Quote from: jayhawkco on October 24, 2021, 12:17:48 PM
Going for nationally famous.

Colorado:
Interstate: I-70
U.S. Highway: US550 (Million Dollar Highway)
State Highway: CO5 (Mt. Evans Highway)

Chris

I disagree with you for the US Highway. I would say US34 along Trail Ridge Road through RMNP.

MN:

I-94
US 61/MN 61

I'm not sure about Arkansas, this is a bit difficult

The Arkansas Dragon immediately comes to mind (AR 74 and 123 between Sand Gap and Mount Judea to as far as Jasper)
Most of AR 7 (primarily through Hot Springs and north of Russellville to near Harrison)
AR 309 (Mount Magazine Scenic Byway)
The two US Route violations (412 and 425)
The uncompleted Interstate 57 (although only roadgeeks know about this to be honest lol)

Quote from: Flint1979 on October 24, 2021, 11:13:43 AM
State highway: M-22

I would argue Woodward Ave (M-1) is more famous, though M-22 is certainly in the ballpark.

Quote from: GaryV on October 24, 2021, 01:48:45 PM
I think the most famous would be 8 Mile Road.

Few would actually be able to name the state highway designation (M-102), but this probably wins.

Quote from: Flint1979 on October 24, 2021, 11:13:43 AM
US highway: US-10

I'd argue it's among the least famous. US-23, US-31, US-127, and US-131 are far more prominent routes in-state. US-2 and US-41 are nationally important routes that both originate in the U.P. Even US-27, a route decommissioned for 20 years in Michigan, would probably outrank US-10 on this list.

60 years ago, sure, US-10 was a major route that would qualify as famous. Today, I doubt anyone in Michigan besides roadgeeks would notice or care if it wore a M-badge instead of a US-highway shield.

For Ohio:

Interstate: I-80/90 (Ohio Turnpike). Excluded I-76 because it's pretty forgettable in the state, despite using a small portion of the turnpike.
US: US 40 (National Road). Still have some fame because of the National Road name despite getting replaced by I-70 for long-distance travel in the state.
State: OH 3, the original highway that connects the 3 "C" cities.

Kentucky's is probably US 23 because of "readin', 'ritin', and Route 23" or the Mountain Parkway because of the group Sundy Best's song of the same name.

If we're going by classification, for state route, I honestly don't know. For US routes, US 23 for the reason above. For interstates, I-71 because it was the site of the worst fatal bus crash in the country.

Quote from: epzik8 on October 24, 2021, 01:20:33 PM
I-95, US 50, MD 404

I was going to say I-70, because it also goes to Baltimore. :bigass:

For Illinois, ironically, it's been decommissioned: US-66.

Quote from: fillup420 on October 24, 2021, 12:35:11 PM
North Carolina:

US highway is a tricky one. I say its between US 70 and US 74. Both route traverse the entire state west to east and go through many different types of terrain and towns. US 64 does as well, but it seems to be less well-known outside of the Raleigh-OBX segment.

US-129 is the famous "Tail of the Dragon", known for motorcycle trekking through the Smokies.

Quote from: Brandon on October 24, 2021, 09:12:23 PM
For Illinois, ironically, it's been decommissioned: US-66.

Same for Missouri, and most other states the route ran through.

Quote from: SkyPesos on October 24, 2021, 11:32:39 AM
CA, AZ, NM, TX, OK, KS, MO, IL: US 66

From among the national recognition, I would tend to agree US-66. All 175 miles of it. More because it is a part of  US-66 not because of any real Texas relevance.

In Texas, the Old San Antonio Trail (or road) or more recently called by its original Spanish name: El Camino Real de los Tejas.  A route from Natchitoches La to Mexico City via Nacogdoches, San Antonio  and crossing into Mexico near Eagle Pass.

Another might be the Chisolm (cattle) Trail which followed a wide path generally following US-81 from San Antonio to the Oklahoma line and on to Wichita KS.

Then there is always the Bankhead Highway that tracked US-67 and US-80 through Texas on its path from Washington DC to San Diego.

And last but not least the Old Spanish Trail that was made up of US-90 and US-80.

PA:

Interstate 76, because it's the vast majority of the PA Turnpike mainline and it's the Schuylkill Expressway, not to mention its coincidental numbering, being a major route through Philly. Consideration also given to I-95.

US 1, because it's part of the Lincoln Highway's route through PA as well as for its importance along the East Coast. Strongly considered US 30 (the rest of the Lincoln Highway through PA and west) and US 40 (the National Road).

Had a tougher time with the state route, but possibilities are PA 61, specifically around Centralia, and PA 611 (Broad Street in Philly, formerly US 611).

If any one route in PA is the most famous, it's the PA Turnpike...the first long-distance road of its type in the US, known for its tunnels (historically) and its ever-rising tolls (presently). 

Quote from: fillup420 on October 24, 2021, 12:35:11 PM
North Carolina:

I-85, hits the 3 largest population centers (Triangle, Greensboro, Charlotte). Busy long-haul corridor with tons of commercial and industrial centers along the way. The expansion projects between charlotte and greensboro really brought the corridor to life. I still remember the old bridge over the Yadkin river. it was narrow and sketchy, with an awkward left exit just north of it.

NC 12, legendary coastal route along the OBX. Anyone who's been out there knows how unique NC 12 is.

US highway is a tricky one. I say its between US 70 and US 74. Both route traverse the entire state west to east and go through many different types of terrain and towns. US 64 does as well, but it seems to be less well-known outside of the Raleigh-OBX segment.


now for infamous its obvious:

I-95

Although not a regular route (commercial vehicles are banned), we also have the famed Blue Ridge Parkway.

Quote from: Crown Victoria on October 24, 2021, 11:34:02 PM
US 1, because it's part of the Lincoln Highway's route through PA as well as for its importance along the East Coast. Strongly considered US 30 (the rest of the Lincoln Highway through PA and west) and US 40 (the National Road).

How about US 22, the William Penn Highway?

Georgia:  I-285, US 41 (h/t Greg Allman), and GA 400.

Quote from: SkyPesos on October 25, 2021, 12:07:02 AM

Quote from: Crown Victoria on October 24, 2021, 11:34:02 PM
US 1, because it's part of the Lincoln Highway's route through PA as well as for its importance along the East Coast. Strongly considered US 30 (the rest of the Lincoln Highway through PA and west) and US 40 (the National Road).

How about US 22, the William Penn Highway?

Good suggestion, as it does carry the name of Pennsylvania's namesake and is a major cross-state route. However, US 1 is still probably the more famous route.

Quote from: Crown Victoria on October 25, 2021, 09:06:54 AM

Quote from: SkyPesos on October 25, 2021, 12:07:02 AM

Quote from: Crown Victoria on October 24, 2021, 11:34:02 PM
US 1, because it's part of the Lincoln Highway's route through PA as well as for its importance along the East Coast. Strongly considered US 30 (the rest of the Lincoln Highway through PA and west) and US 40 (the National Road).

How about US 22, the William Penn Highway?

Good suggestion, as it does carry the name of Pennsylvania's namesake and is a major cross-state route. However, US 1 is still probably the more famous route.

When I think of PA highways, the first one that comes to mind is I-76.

Quote from: Brandon on October 24, 2021, 09:12:23 PM
For Illinois, ironically, it's been decommissioned: US-66.

Of still around routes, just my opinion:

I-90, longest 2di.
US-30, part of historic Lincoln Highway. Or US-41 Lake Shore Dr.
IL-1 nearly the length of whole state. For Northern IL, IL-64/North Av or IL-21 Milwaukee Av.

Quote from: thspfc on October 25, 2021, 10:02:58 AM

Quote from: Crown Victoria on October 25, 2021, 09:06:54 AM

Quote from: SkyPesos on October 25, 2021, 12:07:02 AM

Quote from: Crown Victoria on October 24, 2021, 11:34:02 PM
US 1, because it's part of the Lincoln Highway's route through PA as well as for its importance along the East Coast. Strongly considered US 30 (the rest of the Lincoln Highway through PA and west) and US 40 (the National Road).

How about US 22, the William Penn Highway?

Good suggestion, as it does carry the name of Pennsylvania's namesake and is a major cross-state route. However, US 1 is still probably the more famous route.

When I think of PA highways, the first one that comes to mind is I-76.

Just the Pennsylvania Turnpike for me.  I'm pretty sure that term is more famous than its route numbers.

If Route 66 is not the answer for Texas, then I would think I-10 would be. Popularly known as the widest freeway in the world, plus it goes on for 880 miles. A lot of people seem to know that.

Quote from: CoreySamson on October 25, 2021, 11:21:05 AM
If Route 66 is not the answer for Texas, then I would think I-10 would be. Popularly known as the widest freeway in the world, plus it goes on for 880 miles. A lot of people seem to know that.

The first road I think of in Texas is I-35, as it connects DFW, Waco, Austin and San Antonio.

CA, OR and WA would have these:

I-5, US 101 and SR 99.

Quote from: Henry on October 25, 2021, 11:38:38 AM
CA, OR and WA would have these:

I-5, US 101 and SR 99.

I think CA 1 may beat out CA 99 for CA's state route.

Still deciding between US 66 and US 101 for US route. US 66 as a whole is more nationally known, but US 101 runs on the Golden Gate Bridge, which is a nationally known bridge.

With California either US Route 66 or California State Route 1 with US Route 101 somewhere in the background in third.  US 466 is indirectly famous for being the highway feature in the Grapes of Wrath and with the death of James Dean.  Amusingly Steinbeck calls Tehachapi US 66 and everyone calls the crash site of James Dean the current designation of CA 46.  Pertaining to US 99 and it's successor CA 99 it isn't really well known outside of West Coast circles.  I don't hear very many out of state folks clamoring to "see the Ridge Route"  as an example.

Quote from: Rothman on October 25, 2021, 11:17:08 AM

Quote from: thspfc on October 25, 2021, 10:02:58 AM

Quote from: Crown Victoria on October 25, 2021, 09:06:54 AM

Quote from: SkyPesos on October 25, 2021, 12:07:02 AM

Quote from: Crown Victoria on October 24, 2021, 11:34:02 PM
US 1, because it's part of the Lincoln Highway's route through PA as well as for its importance along the East Coast. Strongly considered US 30 (the rest of the Lincoln Highway through PA and west) and US 40 (the National Road).

How about US 22, the William Penn Highway?

Good suggestion, as it does carry the name of Pennsylvania's namesake and is a major cross-state route. However, US 1 is still probably the more famous route.

When I think of PA highways, the first one that comes to mind is I-76.

Just the Pennsylvania Turnpike for me.  I'm pretty sure that term is more famous than its route numbers.

Broken down into the Interstate-US Route-State Route categories, using the route numbers, I-76 and US 1 work for me. But yes I agree, the Pennsylvania Turnpike is our most famous, regardless of its number.

Over in New Jersey, the same goes for the New Jersey Turnpike, the Garden State Parkway, and the Pulaski Skyway. Numbering considerations aside, those are that state's most famous routes.

No-brainer for CT: The Merritt Parkway.  Except that most people think it's the entirety of CT 15 from the NY border to Meriden and forget the Wilbur Cross moniker in New Haven County.  As for national roads, definitely I-95

Vermont's is Route 100, of course.  RI is probably a tie between I-95 and RI 138. 

Quote from: US20IL64 on October 25, 2021, 10:57:55 AM

Quote from: Brandon on October 24, 2021, 09:12:23 PM
For Illinois, ironically, it's been decommissioned: US-66.

Of still around routes, just my opinion:

I-90, longest 2di.
US-30, part of historic Lincoln Highway. Or US-41 Lake Shore Dr.
IL-1 nearly the length of whole state. For Northern IL, IL-64/North Av or IL-21 Milwaukee Av.

Much of the IL 1 route between Chicago and Danville is also part of the old Dixie Highway

Quote from: SkyPesos on October 25, 2021, 11:42:43 AM

Quote from: Henry on October 25, 2021, 11:38:38 AM
CA, OR and WA would have these:

I-5, US 101 and SR 99.

I think CA 1 may beat out CA 99 for CA's state route.

Still deciding between US 66 and US 101 for US route. US 66 as a whole is more nationally known, but US 101 runs on the Golden Gate Bridge, which is a nationally known bridge.

I would agree.  People have heard of the PCH all across the country.  No one has heard of CA99 except people that have driven in California.

US101 exists; US66 does not.  That seems to be a major deciding factor. :)

Chris

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 25, 2021, 11:45:09 AM
With California either US Route 66 or California State Route 1 with US Route 101 somewhere in the background in third.  US 466 is indirectly famous for being the highway feature in the Grapes of Wrath and with the death of James Dean.  Amusingly Steinbeck calls Tehachapi US 66 and everyone calls the crash site of James Dean the current designation of CA 46.  Pertaining to US 99 and it's successor CA 99 it isn't really well known outside of West Coast circles.  I don't hear very many out of state folks clamoring to "see the Ridge Route"  as an example.

It's US-101. By comparison, no others deserve a mention.

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 25, 2021, 11:45:09 AM
With California either US Route 66 or California State Route 1 with US Route 101 somewhere in the background in third.  US 466 is indirectly famous for being the highway feature in the Grapes of Wrath and with the death of James Dean.  Amusingly Steinbeck calls Tehachapi US 66 and everyone calls the crash site of James Dean the current designation of CA 46.  Pertaining to US 99 and it's successor CA 99 it isn't really well known outside of West Coast circles.  I don't hear very many out of state folks clamoring to "see the Ridge Route"  as an example.

With California I-5, I-10 or I-80 Would have to be in the mix as most famous route along with CA-1 and US-101.

Quote from: thspfc on October 25, 2021, 12:22:17 PM

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 25, 2021, 11:45:09 AM
With California either US Route 66 or California State Route 1 with US Route 101 somewhere in the background in third.  US 466 is indirectly famous for being the highway feature in the Grapes of Wrath and with the death of James Dean.  Amusingly Steinbeck calls Tehachapi US 66 and everyone calls the crash site of James Dean the current designation of CA 46.  Pertaining to US 99 and it's successor CA 99 it isn't really well known outside of West Coast circles.  I don't hear very many out of state folks clamoring to "see the Ridge Route"  as an example.

It's US-101. By comparison, no others deserve a mention.

Nah.  CA-1.

Or...just the Golden Gate Bridge.

^^^

US 66 is a huge deal with the regular folks.  I would probably say that the US 66 people are much larger of an overall crowd than those who have interest in CA 1.  CA 1 has a lot of outdoorsy type followers given there are a ton of hiking trails along it. 

Quote from: bing101 on October 25, 2021, 12:49:04 PM

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 25, 2021, 11:45:09 AM
With California either US Route 66 or California State Route 1 with US Route 101 somewhere in the background in third.  US 466 is indirectly famous for being the highway feature in the Grapes of Wrath and with the death of James Dean.  Amusingly Steinbeck calls Tehachapi US 66 and everyone calls the crash site of James Dean the current designation of CA 46.  Pertaining to US 99 and it's successor CA 99 it isn't really well known outside of West Coast circles.  I don't hear very many out of state folks clamoring to "see the Ridge Route"  as an example.

With California I-5, I-10 or I-80 Would have to be in the mix as most famous route along with CA-1 and US-101.

No Interstate in California is "famous"  to the regular folks crowd. 

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 25, 2021, 12:57:23 PM
^^^

US 66 is a huge deal with the regular folks.  I would probably say that the US 66 people are much larger of an overall crowd than those who have interest in CA 1.  CA 1 has a lot of outdoorsy type followers given there are a ton of hiking trails along it. 

Quote from: bing101 on October 25, 2021, 12:49:04 PM

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 25, 2021, 11:45:09 AM
With California either US Route 66 or California State Route 1 with US Route 101 somewhere in the background in third.  US 466 is indirectly famous for being the highway feature in the Grapes of Wrath and with the death of James Dean.  Amusingly Steinbeck calls Tehachapi US 66 and everyone calls the crash site of James Dean the current designation of CA 46.  Pertaining to US 99 and it's successor CA 99 it isn't really well known outside of West Coast circles.  I don't hear very many out of state folks clamoring to "see the Ridge Route"  as an example.

With California I-5, I-10 or I-80 Would have to be in the mix as most famous route along with CA-1 and US-101.

No Interstate in California is "famous"  to the regular folks crowd.

5?

Have I missed it, or has no one chimed in with A1A for Florida yet?

Quote from: hbelkins on October 25, 2021, 01:14:30 PM
Have I missed it, or has no one chimed in with A1A for Florida yet?

With Disney, I'd wonder if it would be I-4.

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Quote from: hbelkins on October 25, 2021, 01:14:30 PM
Have I missed it, or has no one chimed in with A1A for Florida yet?

With Disney, I'd wonder if it would be I-4.

I would probably say US 1 on the Overseas Highway is by far the most famous in the state followed by A1A.  A lot of out of state folk know about the Tamiami Trail through the Everglades and the Sunshine Skyway Bridge.  I would probably rank I-4 in a tie with the Turnpike after those four examples.

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Quote from: hbelkins on October 25, 2021, 01:14:30 PM
Have I missed it, or has no one chimed in with A1A for Florida yet?

With Disney, I'd wonder if it would be I-4.

I would probably say US 1 on the Overseas Highway is by far the most famous in the state followed by A1A.  A lot of out of state folk know about the Tamiami Trail through the Everglades and the Sunshine Skyway Bridge.  I would probably rank I-4 in a tie with the Turnpike after those four examples.

US 1's a good one.

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Quote from: hbelkins on October 25, 2021, 01:14:30 PM
Have I missed it, or has no one chimed in with A1A for Florida yet?

With Disney, I'd wonder if it would be I-4.

I would probably say US 1 on the Overseas Highway is by far the most famous in the state followed by A1A.  A lot of out of state folk know about the Tamiami Trail through the Everglades and the Sunshine Skyway Bridge.  I would probably rank I-4 in a tie with the Turnpike after those four examples.

US 1's a good one.

I disagree and say A1A is more famous than US1.  Most people know absolutely nothing about roads in their own state much less others'.  But, thanks to Vanilla Ice, people know A1A, Beachfront Avenue.  Has to be the winner.

Chris

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Quote from: hbelkins on October 25, 2021, 01:14:30 PM
Have I missed it, or has no one chimed in with A1A for Florida yet?

With Disney, I'd wonder if it would be I-4.

I would probably say US 1 on the Overseas Highway is by far the most famous in the state followed by A1A.  A lot of out of state folk know about the Tamiami Trail through the Everglades and the Sunshine Skyway Bridge.  I would probably rank I-4 in a tie with the Turnpike after those four examples.

US 1's a good one.

I disagree and say A1A is more famous than US1.  Most people know absolutely nothing about roads in their own state much less others'.  But, thanks to Vanilla Ice, people know A1A, Beachfront Avenue.  Has to be the winner.

Chris

Put it this way, most people can't even name a notable location on any segment of A1A (including Key West).  Most people would probably instantly associate Key West with the Overseas Highway though.  At minimum I think there needs to be someone more weighty than the go who sung the Ninja Turtles Rap (go ninja, go ninja, go) to sway what I saw in person living in Florida. 

I guess we're defining fame differently.  I guess I look at it from the perspective of a non road geek.  I doubt most people even know what the Florida Keys look like, much less that there's a big highway that connects them all.  I think they know Key West is in Florida, but almost no one could tell you what road gets you there. 

People do know the worst karaokied song of all time.

YMMV.

Chris

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Quote from: hbelkins on October 25, 2021, 01:14:30 PM
Have I missed it, or has no one chimed in with A1A for Florida yet?

With Disney, I'd wonder if it would be I-4.

I would probably say US 1 on the Overseas Highway is by far the most famous in the state followed by A1A.  A lot of out of state folk know about the Tamiami Trail through the Everglades and the Sunshine Skyway Bridge.  I would probably rank I-4 in a tie with the Turnpike after those four examples.

US 1's a good one.

I disagree and say A1A is more famous than US1.  Most people know absolutely nothing about roads in their own state much less others'.  But, thanks to Vanilla Ice, people know A1A, Beachfront Avenue.  Has to be the winner.

Chris

More people know A1A from the Jimmy Buffett album than some reference to a one-hit rap star.

Isn't the "Begin US 1 / Mile 0" sign one of the most well known and photographed road signs out there?

For locals, MA 128

For outsiders, probably the Big Dig

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 25, 2021, 03:39:40 PM
For locals, MA 128

For outsiders, probably the Big Dig

The Big Dig is interesting to me because it's one of the very few instances of New England states actually paying attention to the quality of their roads in the 21st century.

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Isn't the "Begin US 1 / Mile 0" sign one of the most well known and photographed road signs out there?

Yes, if not the most popular. 

I'd argue in California, once you exclude the decommissioned US 66 the most famous route is the Golden Gate Bridge over Rodeo Drive or Sunset Blvd, all of which the average person around the world is more likely to know than CA 1 (which crosses the Golden Gate Bridge). A route doesn't need a number as the Pennsylvania Turnpike, Oversea Highway, and Lake Pontchartrain Causeway demonstrate.

I'd also argue the most famous route in several East Coast states is the Appalachian Trail, though in NC it might be the Blue Ridge Parkway. The Elroy-Sparta Trail may be the most famous route in Wisconsin as it's the world's first rail-to-trail bike trail. You're all being far too road geek and car-centric on defining "Famous Route."

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I guess we're defining fame differently.  I guess I look at it from the perspective of a non road geek.  I doubt most people even know what the Florida Keys look like, much less that there's a big highway that connects them all.  I think they know Key West is in Florida, but almost no one could tell you what road gets you there. 

People do know the worst karaokied song of all time.

YMMV.

Chris

My mileage definitely varies here. The Keys are a popular one night trip from Miami/vacation destination in themselves. US-1 up and down the Keys is known by a good chunk of non-roadgeeks.

But I think Florida's most famous (and infamous) highway has to be the Turnpike. "Floridians are crazy drivers" is a well-known cultural stereotype, and the first road that is brought up is usually the Turnpike.

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With California either US Route 66 or California State Route 1 with US Route 101 somewhere in the background in third.  US 466 is indirectly famous for being the highway feature in the Grapes of Wrath and with the death of James Dean.  Amusingly Steinbeck calls Tehachapi US 66 and everyone calls the crash site of James Dean the current designation of CA 46.  Pertaining to US 99 and it's successor CA 99 it isn't really well known outside of West Coast circles.  I don't hear very many out of state folks clamoring to "see the Ridge Route"  as an example.

It's US-101. By comparison, no others deserve a mention.

Nah.  CA-1.

Or...just the Golden Gate Bridge.

Which is also US-101, though most don't know that.

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With California either US Route 66 or California State Route 1 with US Route 101 somewhere in the background in third.  US 466 is indirectly famous for being the highway feature in the Grapes of Wrath and with the death of James Dean.  Amusingly Steinbeck calls Tehachapi US 66 and everyone calls the crash site of James Dean the current designation of CA 46.  Pertaining to US 99 and it's successor CA 99 it isn't really well known outside of West Coast circles.  I don't hear very many out of state folks clamoring to "see the Ridge Route"  as an example.

It's US-101. By comparison, no others deserve a mention.

Nah.  CA-1.

Or...just the Golden Gate Bridge.

Which is also US-101, though most don't know that.

Some people on here use some document to say it isn't (CA legislation defining the routes?).  :D

^^^

Ha, beat me to it.

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With California either US Route 66 or California State Route 1 with US Route 101 somewhere in the background in third.  US 466 is indirectly famous for being the highway feature in the Grapes of Wrath and with the death of James Dean.  Amusingly Steinbeck calls Tehachapi US 66 and everyone calls the crash site of James Dean the current designation of CA 46.  Pertaining to US 99 and it's successor CA 99 it isn't really well known outside of West Coast circles.  I don't hear very many out of state folks clamoring to "see the Ridge Route"  as an example.

It's US-101. By comparison, no others deserve a mention.

Nah.  CA-1.

Or...just the Golden Gate Bridge.

Which is also US-101, though most don't know that.

Interesting to note; the Golden Gate Bridge actually is a California Legislative route definition gap for CA 1:

https://www.cahighways.org/ROUTE001.html

Same as US 101:

https://www.cahighways.org/ROUTE101.html

That said, I believe the AASHTO definition of US 101 has it clearly aligned over the Golden Gate Bridge.  I believe the actual documents are in the AASHTO Database.

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North Carolina:

I-85, hits the 3 largest population centers (Triangle, Greensboro, Charlotte). Busy long-haul corridor with tons of commercial and industrial centers along the way. The expansion projects between charlotte and greensboro really brought the corridor to life. I still remember the old bridge over the Yadkin river. it was narrow and sketchy, with an awkward left exit just north of it.

NC 12, legendary coastal route along the OBX. Anyone who's been out there knows how unique NC 12 is.

US highway is a tricky one. I say its between US 70 and US 74. Both route traverse the entire state west to east and go through many different types of terrain and towns. US 64 does as well, but it seems to be less well-known outside of the Raleigh-OBX segment.


now for infamous its obvious:

I-95

Although not a regular route (commercial vehicles are banned), we also have the famed Blue Ridge Parkway.

How did I forget about the Parkway??

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Ha, beat me to it.

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With California either US Route 66 or California State Route 1 with US Route 101 somewhere in the background in third.  US 466 is indirectly famous for being the highway feature in the Grapes of Wrath and with the death of James Dean.  Amusingly Steinbeck calls Tehachapi US 66 and everyone calls the crash site of James Dean the current designation of CA 46.  Pertaining to US 99 and it's successor CA 99 it isn't really well known outside of West Coast circles.  I don't hear very many out of state folks clamoring to "see the Ridge Route"  as an example.

It's US-101. By comparison, no others deserve a mention.

Nah.  CA-1.

Or...just the Golden Gate Bridge.

Which is also US-101, though most don't know that.

Interesting to note; the Golden Gate Bridge actually is a California Legislative route definition gap for CA 1:

https://www.cahighways.org/ROUTE001.html

Same as US 101:

https://www.cahighways.org/ROUTE101.html

That said, I believe the AASHTO definition of US 101 has it clearly aligned over the Golden Gate Bridge.  I believe the actual documents are in the AASHTO Database.

Seems like Caltrans is just being obnoxious.

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Have I missed it, or has no one chimed in with A1A for Florida yet?

With Disney, I'd wonder if it would be I-4.

I would probably say US 1 on the Overseas Highway is by far the most famous in the state followed by A1A.  A lot of out of state folk know about the Tamiami Trail through the Everglades and the Sunshine Skyway Bridge.  I would probably rank I-4 in a tie with the Turnpike after those four examples.

US 1's a good one.

I disagree and say A1A is more famous than US1.  Most people know absolutely nothing about roads in their own state much less others'.  But, thanks to Vanilla Ice, people know A1A, Beachfront Avenue.  Has to be the winner.

Chris

More people know A1A from the Jimmy Buffett album than some reference to a one-hit rap star.

I'd say your age is showing :)  Far more people alive right now know who sings "Ice, Ice Baby" than know who sings "Cheeseburger in Paradise".

Chris

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Ha, beat me to it.

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With California either US Route 66 or California State Route 1 with US Route 101 somewhere in the background in third.  US 466 is indirectly famous for being the highway feature in the Grapes of Wrath and with the death of James Dean.  Amusingly Steinbeck calls Tehachapi US 66 and everyone calls the crash site of James Dean the current designation of CA 46.  Pertaining to US 99 and it's successor CA 99 it isn't really well known outside of West Coast circles.  I don't hear very many out of state folks clamoring to "see the Ridge Route"  as an example.

It's US-101. By comparison, no others deserve a mention.

Nah.  CA-1.

Or...just the Golden Gate Bridge.

Which is also US-101, though most don't know that.

Interesting to note; the Golden Gate Bridge actually is a California Legislative route definition gap for CA 1:

https://www.cahighways.org/ROUTE001.html

Same as US 101:

https://www.cahighways.org/ROUTE101.html

That said, I believe the AASHTO definition of US 101 has it clearly aligned over the Golden Gate Bridge.  I believe the actual documents are in the AASHTO Database.

Seems like Caltrans is just being obnoxious.

Caltrans isn't the agency really that decides Legislative Route descriptions that is largely the California Transportation Commission coupled with the State Legislature.  All the legislative route description entails is what segment of roadway the State maintains.  Since the State doesn't maintain the Golden Gate Bridge it doesn't appear in their legislative route descriptions.  That doesn't mean that a highway can't be signed over the Golden Gate Bridge (CA 1 isn't) or that another body like AASHTO can't recognize it as part of US 101.  So effectively the Golden Gate Bridge is US 101 but not CA 1 largely by semantics. 

Funny, I don't even think the fact that CA 1 has actual segment gaps is all that well known.  With A1A it seems like it is more universally known that it exists as multiple segments and not a continuous highway.  Most legislative gaps in CA 1 aren't even carried by multiplexed field signage on US 101.

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Have I missed it, or has no one chimed in with A1A for Florida yet?

With Disney, I'd wonder if it would be I-4.

I would probably say US 1 on the Overseas Highway is by far the most famous in the state followed by A1A.  A lot of out of state folk know about the Tamiami Trail through the Everglades and the Sunshine Skyway Bridge.  I would probably rank I-4 in a tie with the Turnpike after those four examples.

US 1's a good one.

I disagree and say A1A is more famous than US1.  Most people know absolutely nothing about roads in their own state much less others'.  But, thanks to Vanilla Ice, people know A1A, Beachfront Avenue.  Has to be the winner.

Chris

More people know A1A from the Jimmy Buffett album than some reference to a one-hit rap star.

I'd say your age is showing :)  Far more people alive right now know who sings "Ice, Ice Baby" than know who sings "Cheeseburger in Paradise".

Chris

Even among people in their late 30s/early 40s I would probably say Jimmy Buffet is equally known as Vanilla Ice.  I mainly remember Vanilla Ice due the fact he ripped off Queen for the background beat of Ice, Ice Baby.

Just from Stand-Up comics' [etc] jokes  :colorful: about LA freeways, I'd say I-405,  "the 405", is more famous nationally. Known for its traffic backups, than I-5.

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Have I missed it, or has no one chimed in with A1A for Florida yet?

With Disney, I'd wonder if it would be I-4.

I would probably say US 1 on the Overseas Highway is by far the most famous in the state followed by A1A.  A lot of out of state folk know about the Tamiami Trail through the Everglades and the Sunshine Skyway Bridge.  I would probably rank I-4 in a tie with the Turnpike after those four examples.

US 1's a good one.

I disagree and say A1A is more famous than US1.  Most people know absolutely nothing about roads in their own state much less others'.  But, thanks to Vanilla Ice, people know A1A, Beachfront Avenue.  Has to be the winner.

Chris

More people know A1A from the Jimmy Buffett album than some reference to a one-hit rap star.

I'd say your age is showing :)  Far more people alive right now know who sings "Ice, Ice Baby" than know who sings "Cheeseburger in Paradise".

Chris

Even among people in their late 30s/early 40s I would probably say Jimmy Buffet is equally known as Vanilla Ice.  I mainly remember Vanilla Ice due the fact he ripped off Queen for the background beat of Ice, Ice Baby.

You're my age.  Can you sing the lyric from Jimmy Buffet that has A1A in it?

Chris

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I-587. :spin:

Probably NY 17 in terms of non-interstates.

Um, NY-9A?

Hmm, I could be wrong but I feel like NY 9A is not really famous unto itself in the same way as NY 17.

NY 9A doesn't really mean anything specific to me other than the fact that it's a road in the NYC area.

I honestly didn't think there were that many roads in New York State that are truly famous. Infamous, yes (the Cross Bronx Expressway), but not truly famous.


How does NY 22 stack up?

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Have I missed it, or has no one chimed in with A1A for Florida yet?

With Disney, I'd wonder if it would be I-4.

I would probably say US 1 on the Overseas Highway is by far the most famous in the state followed by A1A.  A lot of out of state folk know about the Tamiami Trail through the Everglades and the Sunshine Skyway Bridge.  I would probably rank I-4 in a tie with the Turnpike after those four examples.

US 1's a good one.

I disagree and say A1A is more famous than US1.  Most people know absolutely nothing about roads in their own state much less others'.  But, thanks to Vanilla Ice, people know A1A, Beachfront Avenue.  Has to be the winner.

Chris

More people know A1A from the Jimmy Buffett album than some reference to a one-hit rap star.

I'd say your age is showing :)  Far more people alive right now know who sings "Ice, Ice Baby" than know who sings "Cheeseburger in Paradise".

Chris

Even among people in their late 30s/early 40s I would probably say Jimmy Buffet is equally known as Vanilla Ice.  I mainly remember Vanilla Ice due the fact he ripped off Queen for the background beat of Ice, Ice Baby.

You're my age.  Can you sing the lyric from Jimmy Buffet that has A1A in it?

Chris

No, but I can sign just as many Jimmy Buffet lyrics as I can for Vanilla Ice.  Neither was really my style of music.  Vanilla Ice is more along the lines of a one hit wonder than Jimmy Buffet.

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Just from Stand-Up comics' [etc] jokes  :colorful: about LA freeways, I'd say I-405,  "the 405", is more famous nationally. Known for its traffic backups, than I-5.

The irony being there isn't anything particularly special about I-405 and it's traffic jams.  The traffic jams are common on almost all the Los Angeles Area freeways.  But I would note that the traffic backups probably are worse out east (the Dan Ryan Expressway comes to mind).

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 25, 2021, 05:17:46 PM
No, but I can sign just as many Jimmy Buffet lyrics as I can for Vanilla Ice.  Neither was really my style of music.  Vanilla Ice is more along the lines of a one hit wonder than Jimmy Buffet.

Not disagreeing with that at all.  Vanilla Ice sucks.  Just saying that a ton of people can sing the lyric "A1A, Beachfront Avenue" and not nearly as many people (including me who had Jimmy Buffet's Greatest Hits" CD) know a line about A1A.  Hence, it's famous.

Chris

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No, but I can sign just as many Jimmy Buffet lyrics as I can for Vanilla Ice.  Neither was really my style of music.  Vanilla Ice is more along the lines of a one hit wonder than Jimmy Buffet.

Not disagreeing with that at all.  Vanilla Ice sucks.  Just saying that a ton of people can sing the lyric "A1A, Beachfront Avenue" and not nearly as many people (including me who had Jimmy Buffet's Greatest Hits" CD) know a line about A1A.  Hence, it's famous.

Chris

The amusing thing is that I completely forgot about the guy until my Mom started watching some sort of show where he was remodeling houses in Miami.  Why my Mom knew who Vanilla Ice was kind of puzzling considering she we wouldn't even let me watch MTV in era he was popular.

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Ha, beat me to it.

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With California either US Route 66 or California State Route 1 with US Route 101 somewhere in the background in third.  US 466 is indirectly famous for being the highway feature in the Grapes of Wrath and with the death of James Dean.  Amusingly Steinbeck calls Tehachapi US 66 and everyone calls the crash site of James Dean the current designation of CA 46.  Pertaining to US 99 and it's successor CA 99 it isn't really well known outside of West Coast circles.  I don't hear very many out of state folks clamoring to "see the Ridge Route"  as an example.

It's US-101. By comparison, no others deserve a mention.

Nah.  CA-1.

Or...just the Golden Gate Bridge.

Which is also US-101, though most don't know that.

Interesting to note; the Golden Gate Bridge actually is a California Legislative route definition gap for CA 1:

https://www.cahighways.org/ROUTE001.html

Same as US 101:

https://www.cahighways.org/ROUTE101.html

That said, I believe the AASHTO definition of US 101 has it clearly aligned over the Golden Gate Bridge.  I believe the actual documents are in the AASHTO Database.

Seems like Caltrans is just being obnoxious.

Caltrans isn't the agency really that decides Legislative Route descriptions that is largely the California Transportation Commission coupled with the State Legislature.  All the legislative route description entails is what segment of roadway the State maintains.  Since the State doesn't maintain the Golden Gate Bridge it doesn't appear in their legislative route descriptions.  That doesn't mean that a highway can't be signed over the Golden Gate Bridge (CA 1 isn't) or that another body like AASHTO can't recognize it as part of US 101.  So effectively the Golden Gate Bridge is US 101 but not CA 1 largely by semantics. 

Funny, I don't even think the fact that CA 1 has actual segment gaps is all that well known.  With A1A it seems like it is more universally known that it exists as multiple segments and not a continuous highway.  Most legislative gaps in CA 1 aren't even carried by multiplexed field signage on US 101.

I think the only real indication of 101/1 overlaps are 1's exit numbers.

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With California either US Route 66 or California State Route 1 with US Route 101 somewhere in the background in third.  US 466 is indirectly famous for being the highway feature in the Grapes of Wrath and with the death of James Dean.  Amusingly Steinbeck calls Tehachapi US 66 and everyone calls the crash site of James Dean the current designation of CA 46.  Pertaining to US 99 and it's successor CA 99 it isn't really well known outside of West Coast circles.  I don't hear very many out of state folks clamoring to "see the Ridge Route"  as an example.

It's US-101. By comparison, no others deserve a mention.

Nah.  CA-1.

Or...just the Golden Gate Bridge.

Which is also US-101, though most don't know that.

Interesting to note; the Golden Gate Bridge actually is a California Legislative route definition gap for CA 1:

https://www.cahighways.org/ROUTE001.html

Same as US 101:

https://www.cahighways.org/ROUTE101.html

That said, I believe the AASHTO definition of US 101 has it clearly aligned over the Golden Gate Bridge.  I believe the actual documents are in the AASHTO Database.

Seems like Caltrans is just being obnoxious.

Caltrans isn't the agency really that decides Legislative Route descriptions that is largely the California Transportation Commission coupled with the State Legislature.  All the legislative route description entails is what segment of roadway the State maintains.  Since the State doesn't maintain the Golden Gate Bridge it doesn't appear in their legislative route descriptions.  That doesn't mean that a highway can't be signed over the Golden Gate Bridge (CA 1 isn't) or that another body like AASHTO can't recognize it as part of US 101.  So effectively the Golden Gate Bridge is US 101 but not CA 1 largely by semantics. 

Funny, I don't even think the fact that CA 1 has actual segment gaps is all that well known.  With A1A it seems like it is more universally known that it exists as multiple segments and not a continuous highway.  Most legislative gaps in CA 1 aren't even carried by multiplexed field signage on US 101.

I think the only real indication of 101/1 overlaps are 1's exit numbers.

Some of the multiplexes are actually signed.  Example; there is assemblies like this north of the Robin Williams Tunnel:

https://flic.kr/p/T5cAZS

Ontario: Probably Highway 401.

Non-freeway, it's tough, but for roadgeeks it's probably former Highway 2, currently multitudes of County Road 2.

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Ontario: Probably Highway 401.

Non-freeway, it's tough, but for roadgeeks it's probably former Highway 2, currently multitudes of County Road 2.

What about parts of the TCH? ON 17 along Lakes Superior and Huron comes to mind, as part of popular Great Lakes tourist routes.

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Ontario: Probably Highway 401.

Non-freeway, it's tough, but for roadgeeks it's probably former Highway 2, currently multitudes of County Road 2.

What about parts of the TCH? ON 17 along Lakes Superior and Huron comes to mind, as part of popular Great Lakes tourist routes.

Given that most of Ontario's population resides down south, I doubt that many people actually drove on Hwy 17 so far away. My parents have been to a lot of places in Canada but they never drove West because it's such a long drive to see relatively nothing compared to going east. (and if they wanted to go to Vancouver/Calgary/Edmonton they'd fly)

Georgia: US 41 (thanks, Allman Brothers)

New Jersey: US 9 (thanks, Bruce Springsteen)

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New Jersey: US 9 (thanks, Bruce Springsteen)

My first thought about NJ is the NJ Turnpike.

Regarding the California debate upthread, one could bolster the 101 argument in that Ventura Highway/Boulevard have been immortalized in song for decades, at least since the '60s if not before then.

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Vermont's is Route 100, of course.  RI is probably a tie between I-95 and RI 138. 

Living here, I can make a stronger argument for "Route 7".  It's the ORIGINAL route to follow along the Greens (Route 100 is not an original route...it came noticeably later), plus you also get the Taconics too.

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With California either US Route 66 or California State Route 1 with US Route 101 somewhere in the background in third.  US 466 is indirectly famous for being the highway feature in the Grapes of Wrath and with the death of James Dean.  Amusingly Steinbeck calls Tehachapi US 66 and everyone calls the crash site of James Dean the current designation of CA 46.  Pertaining to US 99 and it's successor CA 99 it isn't really well known outside of West Coast circles.  I don't hear very many out of state folks clamoring to "see the Ridge Route"  as an example.

It's US-101. By comparison, no others deserve a mention.

Nah.  CA-1.

Or...just the Golden Gate Bridge.

I'd go with CA-1, easily. I-405 has recognition as the symbol of L.A. traffic, but the CA-1 miner's spade shield is ubiquitous in tourist gift shops and on imagery representing the California coast.

It was mentioned upthread that CA-1 exists in discontinuous segments - what would be the most famous segment of CA-1 outside of California? The PCH segment (Malibu, Santa Monica/Venice, Orange County beaches) or the Big Sur segment (oceanside cliffs, coastal forests, rockslides)?

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With California either US Route 66 or California State Route 1 with US Route 101 somewhere in the background in third.  US 466 is indirectly famous for being the highway feature in the Grapes of Wrath and with the death of James Dean.  Amusingly Steinbeck calls Tehachapi US 66 and everyone calls the crash site of James Dean the current designation of CA 46.  Pertaining to US 99 and it's successor CA 99 it isn't really well known outside of West Coast circles.  I don't hear very many out of state folks clamoring to "see the Ridge Route"  as an example.

It's US-101. By comparison, no others deserve a mention.

Nah.  CA-1.

Or...just the Golden Gate Bridge.

I'd go with CA-1, easily. I-405 has recognition as the symbol of L.A. traffic, but the CA-1 miner's spade shield is ubiquitous in tourist gift shops and on imagery representing the California coast.

It was mentioned upthread that CA-1 exists in discontinuous segments - what would be the most famous segment of CA-1 outside of California? The PCH segment (Malibu, Santa Monica/Venice, Orange County beaches) or the Big Sur segment (oceanside cliffs, coastal forests, rockslides)?

Big Sur for sure.

Chris

I'd argue the PCH segment.  Used far more often in popular culture and movies.

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With California either US Route 66 or California State Route 1 with US Route 101 somewhere in the background in third.  US 466 is indirectly famous for being the highway feature in the Grapes of Wrath and with the death of James Dean.  Amusingly Steinbeck calls Tehachapi US 66 and everyone calls the crash site of James Dean the current designation of CA 46.  Pertaining to US 99 and it's successor CA 99 it isn't really well known outside of West Coast circles.  I don't hear very many out of state folks clamoring to "see the Ridge Route"  as an example.

It's US-101. By comparison, no others deserve a mention.

Nah.  CA-1.

Or...just the Golden Gate Bridge.

I'd go with CA-1, easily. I-405 has recognition as the symbol of L.A. traffic, but the CA-1 miner's spade shield is ubiquitous in tourist gift shops and on imagery representing the California coast.

It was mentioned upthread that CA-1 exists in discontinuous segments - what would be the most famous segment of CA-1 outside of California? The PCH segment (Malibu, Santa Monica/Venice, Orange County beaches) or the Big Sur segment (oceanside cliffs, coastal forests, rockslides)?

Big Sur for sure.

Chris

San Luis Obispo-San Francisco by way of Big Sur by a mile.

So it seems like the conscious for California are the following based on the discussion here:

I: I-5 or 405? Also, 280 was trademarked for the Apple Maps icon for a while, not sure if that means anything.
US: US 66
SR: CA 1

Quote from: SkyPesos on October 26, 2021, 02:22:18 PM
So it seems like the conscious for California are the following based on the discussion here:

I: I-5 or 405? Also, 280 was trademarked for the Apple Maps icon for a while, not sure if that means anything.
US: US 66
SR: CA 1

Again.  US66 doesn't exist anymore, so while I agree it's well-known, I'd still vote US101.  Otherwise US66 is also the most well known US route in every other state it went through.

Chris

Quote from: jayhawkco on October 26, 2021, 02:29:38 PM

Quote from: SkyPesos on October 26, 2021, 02:22:18 PM
So it seems like the conscious for California are the following based on the discussion here:

I: I-5 or 405? Also, 280 was trademarked for the Apple Maps icon for a while, not sure if that means anything.
US: US 66
SR: CA 1

Again.  US66 doesn't exist anymore, so while I agree it's well-known, I'd still vote US101.  Otherwise US66 is also the most well known US route in every other state it went through.

Chris

I-280 probably isn't much on the "fame factor"  like I-405 is.  US 101 and to a smaller extent US 99 ought to be on the list. 

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Quote from: jayhawkco on October 26, 2021, 02:29:38 PM

Quote from: SkyPesos on October 26, 2021, 02:22:18 PM
So it seems like the conscious for California are the following based on the discussion here:

I: I-5 or 405? Also, 280 was trademarked for the Apple Maps icon for a while, not sure if that means anything.
US: US 66
SR: CA 1

Again.  US66 doesn't exist anymore, so while I agree it's well-known, I'd still vote US101.  Otherwise US66 is also the most well known US route in every other state it went through.

Chris

I-280 probably isn't much on the "fame factor"  like I-405 is.  US 101 and to a smaller extent US 99 ought to be on the list.

I-280 is local but does not mean anything outside of San Francisco.
I-405 yes, CA-110 and I-110 as the next famous 3di in the USA yes.
I-495 New York and I-495 Beltway in Washington DC has to be the other famous 3di's. 

Nevada:

The OP asked for numbered highways, which disqualifies Las Vegas Boulevard, "The Strip", but that's the answer.

After that:
State route:  SR 375, the Extraterrestrial Highway
US route:  US 50, the Loneliest Road in America
Interstate:  Many miles of meh here.  I-15 is more infamous than famous for its end-of-weekend southbound backups out of Las Vegas.  It will show up more often on aerial shots of Allegiant Stadium so I guess that makes it the winner.

Quote from: gonealookin on October 26, 2021, 09:51:06 PM
Nevada:

The OP asked for numbered highways, which disqualifies Las Vegas Boulevard, "The Strip", but that's the answer.

Didn't Las Vegas Blvd used to be US 91, before the number was decommissioned?

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Nevada:

The OP asked for numbered highways, which disqualifies Las Vegas Boulevard, "The Strip", but that's the answer.

Didn't Las Vegas Blvd used to be US 91, before the number was decommissioned?

And US 466 if you want to get specific.  Part of it is still NV 604.

Québec's most well-known road varies by region, though it's generally QC-132 or A-20.

We could do named streets too, which would lead to some interesting choices. I'll start off with an easy one

New York: Either Broadway or 5th Ave, both in Manhattan.

For New Jersey, the Turnpike is too easy as the Interstate.

For US Highway, I'd say US 30 because the White Horse Pike is a pretty notable road thanks to shows like "Boardwalk Empire" , the Admiral Wilson Blvd was a prominent project during NJ's Good Roads Movement, and the Airport Circle was the first modern highway circle in the US.

For state Highway, NJ24 - not because people know the route itself, but because of the famed Triborough Road intersection.

Quote from: froggie on October 26, 2021, 10:35:49 AM
Regarding the California debate upthread, one could bolster the 101 argument in that Ventura Highway/Boulevard have been immortalized in song for decades, at least since the '60s if not before then.

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on October 25, 2021, 12:00:39 PM
Vermont's is Route 100, of course.  RI is probably a tie between I-95 and RI 138. 

Living here, I can make a stronger argument for "Route 7".  It's the ORIGINAL route to follow along the Greens (Route 100 is not an original route...it came noticeably later), plus you also get the Taconics too.

Nah.  Having lived in the Northeast, VT 100 is known pretty well as the scenic route in VT.

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Nevada:

The OP asked for numbered highways, which disqualifies Las Vegas Boulevard, "The Strip", but that's the answer.

Didn't Las Vegas Blvd used to be US 91, before the number was decommissioned?

And US 466 if you want to get specific.  Part of it is still NV 604.

It was only 466 south of downtown though. The whole thing was US 91.

At any rate, unlike some historic highways, I don't think there's a whole lot of knowledge among the general public about old US 91 in Nevada.

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If Route 66 is not the answer for Texas, then I would think I-10 would be. Popularly known as the widest freeway in the world, plus it goes on for 880 miles. A lot of people seem to know that.

The first road I think of in Texas is I-35, as it connects DFW, Waco, Austin and San Antonio.

Yeah, I would think it would be a close tie for IH 10 and IH 35 for Interstate here in Texas: 35 for San Antonio, Austin, DFW, for being one of the only places where an interstate splits into suffixed routes, and for its infamous congestion.  IH 10 for its length and for the stretch from San Antonio to El Paso.

For US Highways, yes, the old US 66, but in modern times probably US 59 due to most of it being converted into IH 69

For State Highways: probably 6 or 16 because of their length and how many major cities they connect.

Quote from: achilles765 on October 27, 2021, 12:09:19 AM
For US Highways, yes, the old US 66, but in modern times probably US 59 due to most of it being converted into IH 69

I highly doubt that much of the general public outside of the US 59 corridor knows about US 59 being converted into I-69.

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Nevada:

The OP asked for numbered highways, which disqualifies Las Vegas Boulevard, "The Strip", but that's the answer.

Didn't Las Vegas Blvd used to be US 91, before the number was decommissioned?

And US 466 if you want to get specific.  Part of it is still NV 604.

It was only 466 south of downtown though. The whole thing was US 91.

At any rate, unlike some historic highways, I don't think there's a whole lot of knowledge among the general public about old US 91 in Nevada.

Which I've found odd.  When I did a series of US 91 blogs for the Mojave Desert I got the impression that few if anyone gave the corridor a serious historic look.

Gotta be Pennsylvania Avenue in DC

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Regarding the California debate upthread, one could bolster the 101 argument in that Ventura Highway/Boulevard have been immortalized in song for decades, at least since the '60s if not before then.

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on October 25, 2021, 12:00:39 PM
Vermont's is Route 100, of course.  RI is probably a tie between I-95 and RI 138. 

Living here, I can make a stronger argument for "Route 7".  It's the ORIGINAL route to follow along the Greens (Route 100 is not an original route...it came noticeably later), plus you also get the Taconics too.

Nah.  Having lived in the Northeast, VT 100 is known pretty well as the scenic route in VT.

More scenic, sure.  But the OP was talking about famous...not necessarily scenic.

Interesting question.  Decided to try to name a route that would be famous to either a road-geek or non road-geek, local or distant.

For the state where I currently live (Maryland), I'm thinking I-495 - "The Beltway" (apologies to I-695), a metaphor for the actual happenings in Washington DC.
(Thought about I-70, famous for serving Baltimore  :bigass: )

For the two states where I used to live, I think a named route versus a numbered route is an appropriate answer.

Pennsylvania - The Pennsylvania Turnpike - the granddaddy of limited-access expressways.

Florida - The Overseas Highway - a unique road you won't find anywhere else.  If I had to choose a number I would go with A1A, with its unique number, also is the title of one of my favorite Jimmy Buffett albums.
(I also had no clue there was a Vanilla Ice "song" about A1A.  Nor do I care.)

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Regarding the California debate upthread, one could bolster the 101 argument in that Ventura Highway/Boulevard have been immortalized in song for decades, at least since the '60s if not before then.

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on October 25, 2021, 12:00:39 PM
Vermont's is Route 100, of course.  RI is probably a tie between I-95 and RI 138. 

Living here, I can make a stronger argument for "Route 7".  It's the ORIGINAL route to follow along the Greens (Route 100 is not an original route...it came noticeably later), plus you also get the Taconics too.

Nah.  Having lived in the Northeast, VT 100 is known pretty well as the scenic route in VT.

More scenic, sure.  But the OP was talking about famous...not necessarily scenic.

As was I.

Quote from: SkyPesos on October 26, 2021, 10:52:20 PM
We could do named streets too, which would lead to some interesting choices. I'll start off with an easy one

New York: Either Broadway or 5th Ave, both in Manhattan.

Chicago: Lake Shore Dr, State St, Michigan Av,  :cool:

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Quote from: SkyPesos on October 26, 2021, 10:52:20 PM
We could do named streets too, which would lead to some interesting choices. I'll start off with an easy one

New York: Either Broadway or 5th Ave, both in Manhattan.

Chicago: Lake Shore Dr, State St, Michigan Av,  :cool:

California: Hollywood Blvd or Sunset Blvd (LA), or Lombard St (SF)

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We could do named streets too, which would lead to some interesting choices. I'll start off with an easy one

New York: Either Broadway or 5th Ave, both in Manhattan.

Chicago: Lake Shore Dr, State St, Michigan Av,  :cool:

California: Hollywood Blvd or Sunset Blvd (LA), or Lombard St (SF)

Mulholland Drive, Figueroa Street, Cannery Row, 17 Mile Drive, Great Highway, Market Street and Colorado Boulevard come to mind. 

Quote from: jayhawkco on October 24, 2021, 12:17:48 PM
Going for nationally famous.

Colorado:
Interstate: I-70
U.S. Highway: US550 (Million Dollar Highway)
State Highway: CO5 (Mt. Evans Highway)

Chris

was going for the same thing (dagnabbit you always beat me to these!) but subbing us 34 (trail ridge) for us 550, tho the argument could be made that 34 doesn't exist in rocky mountain natl park.

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Quote from: jayhawkco on October 24, 2021, 12:17:48 PM
Going for nationally famous.

Colorado:
Interstate: I-70
U.S. Highway: US550 (Million Dollar Highway)
State Highway: CO5 (Mt. Evans Highway)

Chris

was going for the same thing (dagnabbit you always beat me to these!) but subbing us 34 (trail ridge) for us 550, tho the argument could be made that 34 doesn't exist in rocky mountain natl park.

Yeah, I think US34 is definitely a competitor.  And also probably more highly traveled than the Million Dollar Highway.  That said, I like US550 better, so it wins. :)

Chris

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Quote from: jayhawkco on October 24, 2021, 12:17:48 PM
Going for nationally famous.

Colorado:
Interstate: I-70
U.S. Highway: US550 (Million Dollar Highway)
State Highway: CO5 (Mt. Evans Highway)

Chris

was going for the same thing (dagnabbit you always beat me to these!) but subbing us 34 (trail ridge) for us 550, tho the argument could be made that 34 doesn't exist in rocky mountain natl park.

Yeah, I think US34 is definitely a competitor.  And also probably more highly traveled than the Million Dollar Highway.  That said, I like US550 better, so it wins. :)

Chris

Does US-6 deserve a mention as well?

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Quote from: jayhawkco on October 24, 2021, 12:17:48 PM
Going for nationally famous.

Colorado:
Interstate: I-70
U.S. Highway: US550 (Million Dollar Highway)
State Highway: CO5 (Mt. Evans Highway)

Chris

was going for the same thing (dagnabbit you always beat me to these!) but subbing us 34 (trail ridge) for us 550, tho the argument could be made that 34 doesn't exist in rocky mountain natl park.

Yeah, I think US34 is definitely a competitor.  And also probably more highly traveled than the Million Dollar Highway.  That said, I like US550 better, so it wins. :)

Chris

Does US-6 deserve a mention as well?

US6 is only really "important" on the 6th Avenue Freeway in the Denver metro.  Otherwise it either is poorly signed as a parallel route to I-70/I-76 or in BFE Colorado.  Loveland Pass is the only other "interesting" part of the highway, but I don't know that Loveland Pass is particularly famous outside of Colorado.

Chris

Toronto: Yonge Street, second place Bloor Street

I suspect for Iowa, it's Lincoln Highway even though much of it nowadays is just county roads. As for roads people actually travel on, it's probably I-80.

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We could do named streets too, which would lead to some interesting choices. I'll start off with an easy one

New York: Either Broadway or 5th Ave, both in Manhattan.

Chicago: Lake Shore Dr, State St, Michigan Av,  :cool:

California: Hollywood Blvd or Sunset Blvd (LA), or Lombard St (SF)

Mulholland Drive, Figueroa Street, Cannery Row, 17 Mile Drive, Great Highway, Market Street and Colorado Boulevard come to mind.

And Melrose Place   :popcorn:

[I know it's just short spur of Melrose Av, TV show make it like it's Sunset Bl]

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Hawaii:

Interstate: H-3
US route: n/a
State route: HI 360 (the most interesting part of the Hana Hwy)

Alaska:

Interstate: Almost nobody knows Alaska even has Interstates.
US route: n/a
State route: AK 11, from "Ice Road Truckers" rather than personal experience; otherwise, AK 3 (Parks Hwy). While the Alaska Highway (part of AK 2) is more famous overall, most of it is in Canada.

California:

State route: CA 1, not even close

I'll add I-5 and US-101.

Here's a question: Which counties in California are neither on I-5 nor have a one-road access to I-5?

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Quote from: oscar on October 24, 2021, 12:32:36 PM
Hawaii:

Interstate: H-3
US route: n/a
State route: HI 360 (the most interesting part of the Hana Hwy)

Alaska:

Interstate: Almost nobody knows Alaska even has Interstates.
US route: n/a
State route: AK 11, from "Ice Road Truckers" rather than personal experience; otherwise, AK 3 (Parks Hwy). While the Alaska Highway (part of AK 2) is more famous overall, most of it is in Canada.

California:

State route: CA 1, not even close

I'll add I-5 and US-101.

Here's a question: Which counties in California are neither on I-5 nor have a one-road access to I-5?

Sierra County comes to mind. 

I'm going to change my answer for state highway in Michigan from M-22 to M-1. M-22 is just a scenic highway not really famous but the signs have been stolen a lot so it is somewhat famous but M-1 is Woodward Avenue and the main street of SE Michigan. It's pretty famous.

Quote from: Flint1979 on October 29, 2021, 03:04:01 PM
I'm going to change my answer for state highway in Michigan from M-22 to M-1. M-22 is just a scenic highway not really famous but the signs have been stolen a lot so it is somewhat famous but M-1 is Woodward Avenue and the main street of SE Michigan. It's pretty famous.

M-102 over Eight Mile Road is up there in terms of popular conscious.  Aside from being the name of a bad movie there is really no reason why M-102/Eight Mile is notable.

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I'm going to change my answer for state highway in Michigan from M-22 to M-1. M-22 is just a scenic highway not really famous but the signs have been stolen a lot so it is somewhat famous but M-1 is Woodward Avenue and the main street of SE Michigan. It's pretty famous.

M-102 over Eight Mile Road is up there in terms of popular conscious.  Aside from being the name of a bad movie there is really no reason why M-102/Eight Mile is notable.

Glad that I'm not the only person who doesn't like that movie. The entire thing is just people talking fast and fighting for no reason.

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Quote from: Flint1979 on October 29, 2021, 03:04:01 PM
I'm going to change my answer for state highway in Michigan from M-22 to M-1. M-22 is just a scenic highway not really famous but the signs have been stolen a lot so it is somewhat famous but M-1 is Woodward Avenue and the main street of SE Michigan. It's pretty famous.

M-102 over Eight Mile Road is up there in terms of popular conscious.  Aside from being the name of a bad movie there is really no reason why M-102/Eight Mile is notable.

Glad that I'm not the only person who doesn't like that movie. The entire thing is just people talking fast and fighting for no reason.

My wife was so disappointed when I took her to the Big Boy at Eight Mile and I-275.  That completely shattered her perception of that movie.

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Quote from: Flint1979 on October 29, 2021, 03:04:01 PM
I'm going to change my answer for state highway in Michigan from M-22 to M-1. M-22 is just a scenic highway not really famous but the signs have been stolen a lot so it is somewhat famous but M-1 is Woodward Avenue and the main street of SE Michigan. It's pretty famous.

M-102 over Eight Mile Road is up there in terms of popular conscious.  Aside from being the name of a bad movie there is really no reason why M-102/Eight Mile is notable.

No one really knows it as M-102 though.

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Quote from: Flint1979 on October 29, 2021, 03:04:01 PM
I'm going to change my answer for state highway in Michigan from M-22 to M-1. M-22 is just a scenic highway not really famous but the signs have been stolen a lot so it is somewhat famous but M-1 is Woodward Avenue and the main street of SE Michigan. It's pretty famous.

M-102 over Eight Mile Road is up there in terms of popular conscious.  Aside from being the name of a bad movie there is really no reason why M-102/Eight Mile is notable.

Glad that I'm not the only person who doesn't like that movie. The entire thing is just people talking fast and fighting for no reason.

I agree. I thought it was stupid.

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I'm going to change my answer for state highway in Michigan from M-22 to M-1. M-22 is just a scenic highway not really famous but the signs have been stolen a lot so it is somewhat famous but M-1 is Woodward Avenue and the main street of SE Michigan. It's pretty famous.

M-102 over Eight Mile Road is up there in terms of popular conscious.  Aside from being the name of a bad movie there is really no reason why M-102/Eight Mile is notable.

Glad that I'm not the only person who doesn't like that movie. The entire thing is just people talking fast and fighting for no reason.

I agree. I thought it was stupid.

Conversely people know Woodward Avenue but often don't know much of it is M-1. 

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Quote from: jayhawkco on October 24, 2021, 12:17:48 PM
Going for nationally famous.

Colorado:
Interstate: I-70
U.S. Highway: US550 (Million Dollar Highway)
State Highway: CO5 (Mt. Evans Highway)

Chris

was going for the same thing (dagnabbit you always beat me to these!) but subbing us 34 (trail ridge) for us 550, tho the argument could be made that 34 doesn't exist in rocky mountain natl park.

Yeah, I think US34 is definitely a competitor.  And also probably more highly traveled than the Million Dollar Highway.  That said, I like US550 better, so it wins. :)

Chris

Does US-6 deserve a mention as well?

US6 is only really "important" on the 6th Avenue Freeway in the Denver metro.  Otherwise it either is poorly signed as a parallel route to I-70/I-76 or in BFE Colorado.  Loveland Pass is the only other "interesting" part of the highway, but I don't know that Loveland Pass is particularly famous outside of Colorado.

Chris

I think the next town north of nunn is BFE, actually.  :bigass:

rockport. last time i was through there, an abandoned bar and a broken soda machine.

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I'm going to change my answer for state highway in Michigan from M-22 to M-1. M-22 is just a scenic highway not really famous but the signs have been stolen a lot so it is somewhat famous but M-1 is Woodward Avenue and the main street of SE Michigan. It's pretty famous.

M-102 over Eight Mile Road is up there in terms of popular conscious.  Aside from being the name of a bad movie there is really no reason why M-102/Eight Mile is notable.

Glad that I'm not the only person who doesn't like that movie. The entire thing is just people talking fast and fighting for no reason.

I agree. I thought it was stupid.

Conversely people know Woodward Avenue but often don't know much of it is M-1.

I think more people know that Woodward is M-1 than people that know Eight Mile is M-102. I even forget at times that Eight Mile is a state highway. How many people know Eight Mile as Base Line Road though?

Florida Turnpike, once called Floridas' Main St.
IMO it's a tough decision as to which is the most famous interstate 75 or 95.
I 95 stays close to the Atlantic Ocean beaches, servicing all the beach towns. It brings in all the east coast traffic to FL. People on the east coast would probably choose I 95 for the most famous hwy.
OTOH I 75 brings the people from the Great Lake states & midwest as well as KY & TN.
FL in state mileage for I 75 is 471 miles, for I 95 382 miles per 2017 Rand McNally Motor Carriers Road Atlas.
I declare the most famous interstate contest in FL a tie.

I choose US 1 as the most famous Federal hwy.
And FL A1A as the state hwy.

Quote from: allniter89 on October 30, 2021, 02:07:57 PM
IMO it's a tough decision as to which is the most famous interstate 75 or 95.
I 95 stays close to the Atlantic Ocean beaches, servicing all the beach towns. It brings in all the east coast traffic to FL. People on the east coast would probably choose I 95 for the most famous hwy.
OTOH I 75 brings the people from the Great Lake states & midwest as well as KY & TN.
FL in state mileage for I 75 is 471 miles, for I 95 382 miles per 2017 Rand McNally Motor Carriers Road Atlas.
I declare the most famous interstate contest in FL a tie.

How about I-4? Much shorter than the other two, but it passes by Disney World.

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Quote from: allniter89 on October 30, 2021, 02:07:57 PM
IMO it's a tough decision as to which is the most famous interstate 75 or 95.
I 95 stays close to the Atlantic Ocean beaches, servicing all the beach towns. It brings in all the east coast traffic to FL. People on the east coast would probably choose I 95 for the most famous hwy.
OTOH I 75 brings the people from the Great Lake states & midwest as well as KY & TN.
FL in state mileage for I 75 is 471 miles, for I 95 382 miles per 2017 Rand McNally Motor Carriers Road Atlas.
I declare the most famous interstate contest in FL a tie.

How about I-4? Much shorter than the other two, but it passes by Disney World.

Most people fly into Orlando for Disney, and locals would come from various directions. It's a busy route, but not a famous route.

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Quote from: oscar on October 24, 2021, 12:32:36 PM
Hawaii:

Interstate: H-3
US route: n/a
State route: HI 360 (the most interesting part of the Hana Hwy)

Alaska:

Interstate: Almost nobody knows Alaska even has Interstates.
US route: n/a
State route: AK 11, from "Ice Road Truckers" rather than personal experience; otherwise, AK 3 (Parks Hwy). While the Alaska Highway (part of AK 2) is more famous overall, most of it is in Canada.

California:

State route: CA 1, not even close

I'll add I-5 and US-101.

Here's a question: Which counties in California are neither on I-5 nor have a one-road access to I-5?

Sierra County comes to mind.

I-80 (which intersects I-5 at approximately a right angle) nips Sierra county. You may be right that most of Sierra county can't get to I-5 via a single road, but you certaintly can get to Sierra county by driving on just one road from I-5.

I don't know how one measures fame, but here's my take on Michigan:  I-75, US-2, M-1.

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Hawaii:

Interstate: H-3
US route: n/a
State route: HI 360 (the most interesting part of the Hana Hwy)

Alaska:

Interstate: Almost nobody knows Alaska even has Interstates.
US route: n/a
State route: AK 11, from "Ice Road Truckers" rather than personal experience; otherwise, AK 3 (Parks Hwy). While the Alaska Highway (part of AK 2) is more famous overall, most of it is in Canada.

California:

State route: CA 1, not even close

I'll add I-5 and US-101.

Here's a question: Which counties in California are neither on I-5 nor have a one-road access to I-5?

Sierra County comes to mind.

I-80 (which intersects I-5 at approximately a right angle) nips Sierra county. You may be right that most of Sierra county can't get to I-5 via a single road, but you certaintly can get to Sierra county by driving on just one road from I-5.

Yes that's true, I should've known that given I just took photos of I-80 in Sierra County.

Arkansas' isn't an Interstate, and isn't even completely within the state.  It's the Talimena National Scenic Byway (AR-88/OK-1).  It's especially gorgeous this time of year, but unless you like sharing the road with lots of cars and motorcycles, I'd drive it on a weekday, although it'll still be fairly busy.  You'll pull over so much to take pictures that you won't care about the other users of the road anyway.

There are numerous state scenic byways that cross the state, particularly in the NW half, but of those, probably the most well known is The Pig Trail (AR-23 from I-40 to AR-16).

Interstates are rarely interesting to me unless they have some scenic value, like I-70 in Glenwood Canyon or I-90 in the panhandle of ID/west MT.

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For Illinois, ironically, it’s been decommissioned: US-66.

Of still around routes, just my opinion:

I-90, longest 2di.
US-30, part of historic Lincoln Highway. Or US-41 Lake Shore Dr.
IL-1 nearly the length of whole state. For Northern IL, IL-64/North Av or IL-21 Milwaukee Av.

Much of the IL 1 route between Chicago and Danville is also part of the old Dixie Highway

Dixie highway went that far west? Always thought that it was roughly former US 25 in the Midwest, hence all the road names called "Dixie Hwy", "Dixie Ave", "Dixie Road", etc paralleling I-75.

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Quote from: Brandon on October 24, 2021, 09:12:23 PM
For Illinois, ironically, it's been decommissioned: US-66.

Of still around routes, just my opinion:

I-90, longest 2di.
US-30, part of historic Lincoln Highway. Or US-41 Lake Shore Dr.
IL-1 nearly the length of whole state. For Northern IL, IL-64/North Av or IL-21 Milwaukee Av.

Much of the IL 1 route between Chicago and Danville is also part of the old Dixie Highway

Dixie highway went that far west? Always thought that it was roughly former US 25 in the Midwest, hence all the road names called "Dixie Hwy", "Dixie Ave", "Dixie Road", etc paralleling I-75.

There are Western [Chicago] and Eastern [Detroit/Canada] routes, along with a network of roads, not just one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Highway
http://georgiahistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/dixie_hwy.pdf

Quote from: J3ebrules on October 26, 2021, 11:00:19 PM
For New Jersey, the Turnpike is too easy as the Interstate.

For US Highway, I'd say US 30 because the White Horse Pike is a pretty notable road thanks to shows like "Boardwalk Empire" , the Admiral Wilson Blvd was a prominent project during NJ's Good Roads Movement, and the Airport Circle was the first modern highway circle in the US.

I'm surprised US 40 isn't a runner-up due to the fact that it was part of the National Road, leads to Atlantic City (I know, US 30 does too), crosses Delaware Memorial Bridge (Overlapped by I-295, of course) which plenty of non-road-geeks are afraid of, and is where the New Jersey Turnpike begins.

For NY I genuinely think its either I-278 or I-87 (Deegan, NYS Thruway and Northway).

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We could do named streets too, which would lead to some interesting choices. I'll start off with an easy one

New York: Either Broadway or 5th Ave, both in Manhattan.

Chicago: Lake Shore Dr, State St, Michigan Av,  :cool:

California: Hollywood Blvd or Sunset Blvd (LA), or Lombard St (SF)

Hollywood Blvd is possibly the most famous street in the country; we're talking Champs-Elysees and Abbey Road levels of notoriety here.

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We could do named streets too, which would lead to some interesting choices. I'll start off with an easy one

New York: Either Broadway or 5th Ave, both in Manhattan.

Chicago: Lake Shore Dr, State St, Michigan Av,  :cool:

California: Hollywood Blvd or Sunset Blvd (LA), or Lombard St (SF)

Hollywood Blvd is possibly the most famous street in the country; we're talking Champs-Elysees and Abbey Road levels of notoriety here.

Pfft.  They say the neon lights are bright on...

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Quote from: J3ebrules on October 26, 2021, 11:00:19 PM
For New Jersey, the Turnpike is too easy as the Interstate.

For US Highway, I'd say US 30 because the White Horse Pike is a pretty notable road thanks to shows like "Boardwalk Empire" , the Admiral Wilson Blvd was a prominent project during NJ's Good Roads Movement, and the Airport Circle was the first modern highway circle in the US.

I'm surprised US 40 isn't a runner-up due to the fact that it was part of the National Road, leads to Atlantic City (I know, US 30 does too), crosses Delaware Memorial Bridge (Overlapped by I-295, of course) which plenty of non-road-geeks are afraid of, and is where the New Jersey Turnpike begins.

I think a stronger argument could be made for US 9, which traverses both North and South Jersey and was popularized by one Bruce Springsteen.

Quote from: TheDon102 on November 07, 2021, 01:01:00 PM
For NY I genuinely think its either I-278 or I-87 (Deegan, NYS Thruway and Northway).

Hard to beat "Broadway" for fame and popularity, part of which is US 9...though I think they call the US 9 part north of the Cross Bronx something else now.

MN's most famous street is likely Hennepin Avenue in Minneapolis, with Lyndale Avenue and Lake Street right behind it.

Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on November 08, 2021, 03:26:29 PM
MN's most famous street is likely Hennepin Avenue in Minneapolis, with Lyndale Avenue and Lake Street right behind it.

Nah.  Hennepin above all.

Probably G1A or A19A.

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Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on November 08, 2021, 03:26:29 PM
MN's most famous street is likely Hennepin Avenue in Minneapolis, with Lyndale Avenue and Lake Street right behind it.

Nah.  Hennepin above all.

...is that not what I said?

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Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on November 08, 2021, 03:26:29 PM
MN's most famous street is likely Hennepin Avenue in Minneapolis, with Lyndale Avenue and Lake Street right behind it.

Nah.  Hennepin above all.

...is that not what I said?

Lyndale and Lake are nowhere near Hennepin.

Thought I'd just put out what I would personally consider the most famous route in each state.  That way you can all tell me how wrong I am. :)

A preface saying that since US66 doesn't exist anymore, I'm not using that for any states.  But, it would have qualified for a bunch of them. And I'm including surface streets if I think they're more recognizable than numbered routes to the populace at large.

AL - I-65 I guess.  Since it runs through (or right by) the four largest cities in the state.
AK - Alaska Highway.  Not that the part that is actually in Alaska is all that exciting, but people have heard of it.
AZ - Here's one where it would have been US66, then maybe US93 over the Hoover Dam.  Now?  I guess AZ89A through Sedona since that's a day trip for a lot of people.
AR - Can't think of anything more famous than I-40. 
CA - A real toss up between Hollywood Boulevard and Sunset Boulevard.  I think I'll go Hollywood. 
CO - I-70.  Almost everyone that comes here to visit heads up into the mountains on it.
CT - I-95.  One of my least favorite drives, but there's nothing that's going to jump to people's minds more.
DE - I-95. Same story.
DC - Pennsylvania Avenue.
FL - FLA1A.  Already got in this argument, but Vanilla Ice makes a state highway well known.
GA - I-75.  The spine of the state.
HI - Hana Highway.  Nothing on O'ahu is all that famous.
ID - ID55.  The main way to head into prettier parts from Boise.
IL - I-294.  Tri-State Tollway is pretty well known to people from at least, well, three states.
IN - I-80/90.  Indiana Toll Road is kinda similar to Illinois' example
IA - I-80.  No real reason why, but joins three metro areas.
KS - Kansas Turnpike.  Kansas' main street (in populated areas at least)
KY - Bluegrass Parkway.  Not the most important road in KY, but it is the Bluegrass State after all.
LA - Bourbon Street.  Easy.
ME - US1.  I-95 is the spine, but most people coming to Maine to visit are heading to the coast.
MD - I-495.  The beltway.
MA - I-90 barely edging out US6.  The Mass Pike being one of the most well known interstate segments.
MI - 8 Mile.  Eminem ekes out a win over I-75.
MN - US61.  Obviously an older demographic knows Bob Dylan well, but no other road is in the public consciousness as much.
MO - I-70.  Kansas City and St. Louis play baseball in the I-70 Series.
MS - Natchez Trace Parkway.  I dare say the only famous road in the state.
MT - Going to the Sun Road.  Glacier's main thoroughfare.
NE - I-80.  For better or worse, the most exposure people get to Nebraska is in its ugliest part.
NV - Las Vegas Strip.  Easy.
NH - I-93.  Hits a couple of major towns and gets to the Whites.
NJ - NJ Turnpike.  No question.
NM - US66 would have been the easy choice here, but I think it's probably its replacement, I-40.
NY - Broadway.  Everyone has heard of it.
NC - Blue Ridge Parkway.  Beats out NC12 on the OB.
ND - I-94.  Default pick.
OH - I think I have to go with Ohio Turnpike.  You'll sense a theme with the important interstate toll roads.
OK - Eh... I-40 I guess?  I-44 is more important, but more people are going to be traveling west through Oklahoma on I-40.
OR - US101.  Oregon coastline get a ton of tourist traffic.
PA - Pennsylvania Turnpike.  No other option.
RI - I-95.  The only way a lot of people (myself included) have ever visited RI.
SC - US17.  Hugs the coast and a lot of the tourist attractions.
SD - SD244.  The road in front of Mt. Rushmore.  The only thing most people know about SD is that Mt. Rushmore is there.
TN - Beale Street.  Nashville is the more popular town, but doesn't have one street that people know.
TX - 6th Street. I can't name a more important street in Dallas or Houston.
UT - US163.  Monument Valley made famous by Forrest Gump.
VT - Tough one.  I'll go I-89 just because US2 is multiplexed for so long, otherwise it might have gotten the nod because of Lake Champlain.
VA - I-495.  The Beltway beats out the Blue Ridge Parkway.
WA - Pike Street.  When people think Washington, they think Seattle.  When they think Seattle, they think of Pike's Place.
WV - I-64 I think.  It's close with the other interstates, but I think it's a more important route for the state's thru traffic.  I-70 if it were longer.
WI - Lombardi Avenue.  Packers rule Wisco.
WY - Grand Loop Road.  In Yellowstone, going by Old Faithful.

Chris

Quote from: jayhawkco on November 09, 2021, 10:52:47 AM
NC - I-40.  Runs the length of the state and no more well known routes (although NC12 should be)

Blue Ridge Pkwy? Especially that the famous Linn Cove Viaduct section of the road is in NC.

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Quote from: jayhawkco on November 09, 2021, 10:52:47 AM
NC - I-40.  Runs the length of the state and no more well known routes (although NC12 should be)

Blue Ridge Pkwy? Especially that the famous Linn Cove Viaduct section of the road is in NC.

Yeah, probably a better call.  Off the top of my brain, I was only remembering the Virginia part.

Chris

"IL - I-294.  Tri-State Tollway is pretty well known to people from at least, well, three states."

State St, Lake Shore Dr, Michigan Av, Lower Wacker Dr. and even the city Xways [Ike, JFK, Ryan] are more well known to average folks. IMHO.  :cool:   I-90/55 and US 20/30/41 for route #s

Quote from: US20IL64 on November 09, 2021, 11:54:27 AM
"IL - I-294.  Tri-State Tollway is pretty well known to people from at least, well, three states."

State St, Lake Shore Dr, Michigan Av, Lower Wacker Dr. and even the city Xways [Ike, JFK, Ryan] are more well known to average folks. IMHO.  :cool:   I-90/55 and US 20/30/41 for route #s

I toyed with the idea of Lakeshore and Michigan Ave., but I'll stick with I-294.  I even thought about Clark for a minute just because of Wrigley.

Chris

Quote from: SkyPesos on October 26, 2021, 10:52:20 PM
We could do named streets too, which would lead to some interesting choices. I'll start off with an easy one

New York: Either Broadway or 5th Ave, both in Manhattan.

What about Wall Street?

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Quote from: SkyPesos on October 26, 2021, 10:52:20 PM
We could do named streets too, which would lead to some interesting choices. I'll start off with an easy one

New York: Either Broadway or 5th Ave, both in Manhattan.

What about Wall Street?

For sure up there.  But I still think Broadway is more famous.  It doesn't just apply to theatre, i.e. Broadway Joe.

Chris

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Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on November 08, 2021, 03:26:29 PM
MN's most famous street is likely Hennepin Avenue in Minneapolis, with Lyndale Avenue and Lake Street right behind it.

Nah.  Hennepin above all.

...is that not what I said?

Lyndale and Lake are nowhere near Hennepin.

...which has what to do with me saying Hennepin was the most famous, on which we agree, since I did not say either of those were equal to Hennepin?

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Hawaii:

Interstate: H-3
US route: n/a
State route: HI 360 (the most interesting part of the Hana Hwy)

Alaska:

Interstate: Almost nobody knows Alaska even has Interstates.
US route: n/a
State route: AK 11, from "Ice Road Truckers" rather than personal experience; otherwise, AK 3 (Parks Hwy). While the Alaska Highway (part of AK 2) is more famous overall, most of it is in Canada.

California:

State route: CA 1, not even close

I'll add I-5 and US-101.

Here's a question: Which counties in California are neither on I-5 nor have a one-road access to I-5?

Sierra County comes to mind.

I-80 (which intersects I-5 at approximately a right angle) nips Sierra county. You may be right that most of Sierra county can't get to I-5 via a single road, but you certaintly can get to Sierra county by driving on just one road from I-5.

I think Inyo County qualifies.

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Hawaii:

Interstate: H-3
US route: n/a
State route: HI 360 (the most interesting part of the Hana Hwy)

Alaska:

Interstate: Almost nobody knows Alaska even has Interstates.
US route: n/a
State route: AK 11, from "Ice Road Truckers" rather than personal experience; otherwise, AK 3 (Parks Hwy). While the Alaska Highway (part of AK 2) is more famous overall, most of it is in Canada.

California:

State route: CA 1, not even close

I'll add I-5 and US-101.

Here's a question: Which counties in California are neither on I-5 nor have a one-road access to I-5?

Sierra County comes to mind.

I-80 (which intersects I-5 at approximately a right angle) nips Sierra county. You may be right that most of Sierra county can't get to I-5 via a single road, but you certaintly can get to Sierra county by driving on just one road from I-5.

I think Inyo County qualifies.

CASR-14?

State Road A1A in Florida! It runs along the coast and serves as the backbone to major beachfront cities.  It is where the action and hotels are in Daytona Beach, Cocoa Beach, Fort Lauderdale, and Miami Beach.

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Quote from: oscar on October 24, 2021, 12:32:36 PM
Hawaii:

Interstate: H-3
US route: n/a
State route: HI 360 (the most interesting part of the Hana Hwy)

Alaska:

Interstate: Almost nobody knows Alaska even has Interstates.
US route: n/a
State route: AK 11, from "Ice Road Truckers" rather than personal experience; otherwise, AK 3 (Parks Hwy). While the Alaska Highway (part of AK 2) is more famous overall, most of it is in Canada.

California:

State route: CA 1, not even close

I'll add I-5 and US-101.

Here's a question: Which counties in California are neither on I-5 nor have a one-road access to I-5?

Sierra County comes to mind.

I-80 (which intersects I-5 at approximately a right angle) nips Sierra county. You may be right that most of Sierra county can't get to I-5 via a single road, but you certaintly can get to Sierra county by driving on just one road from I-5.

I think Inyo County qualifies.

CASR-14?

I started to think of San Mateo county and realized you have to take multiple freeways to go east but CA-1 and US 101 both go south and terminate to I-5.

What about San Benito county? Only county route J1 goes east... oh US-101

I think Inyo County is the only one that qualifies because CA-14 north terminates a few miles south of the county border

Otherwise I don't think there's any route in California that is near famous as CA-1, there are probably some routes that are as infamous though!

Quote from: jayhawkco on November 09, 2021, 10:52:47 AM
Thought I'd just put out what I would personally consider the most famous route in each state.  That way you can all tell me how wrong I am. :)

A preface saying that since US66 doesn't exist anymore, I'm not using that for any states.  But, it would have qualified for a bunch of them. And I'm including surface streets if I think they're more recognizable than numbered routes to the populace at large.

AL - I-65 I guess.  Since it runs through (or right by) the four largest cities in the state.
AK - Alaska Highway.  Not that the part that is actually in Alaska is all that exciting, but people have heard of it.
AZ - Here's one where it would have been US66, then maybe US93 over the Hoover Dam.  Now?  I guess AZ89A through Sedona since that's a day trip for a lot of people.
AR - Can't think of anything more famous than I-40. 
CA - A real toss up between Hollywood Boulevard and Sunset Boulevard.  I think I'll go Hollywood. 
CO - I-70.  Almost everyone that comes here to visit heads up into the mountains on it.
CT - I-95.  One of my least favorite drives, but there's nothing that's going to jump to people's minds more.
DE - I-95. Same story.
DC - Pennsylvania Avenue.
FL - FLA1A.  Already got in this argument, but Vanilla Ice makes a state highway well known.
GA - I-75.  The spine of the state.
HI - Hana Highway.  Nothing on O'ahu is all that famous.
ID - ID55.  The main way to head into prettier parts from Boise.
IL - I-294.  Tri-State Tollway is pretty well known to people from at least, well, three states.
IN - I-80/90.  Indiana Toll Road is kinda similar to Illinois' example
IA - I-80.  No real reason why, but joins three metro areas.
KS - Kansas Turnpike.  Kansas' main street (in populated areas at least)
KY - Bluegrass Parkway.  Not the most important road in KY, but it is the Bluegrass State after all.
LA - Bourbon Street.  Easy.
ME - US1.  I-95 is the spine, but most people coming to Maine to visit are heading to the coast.
MD - I-495.  The beltway.
MA - I-90 barely edging out US6.  The Mass Pike being one of the most well known interstate segments.
MI - 8 Mile.  Eminem ekes out a win over I-75.
MN - US61.  Obviously an older demographic knows Bob Dylan well, but no other road is in the public consciousness as much.
MO - I-70.  Kansas City and St. Louis play baseball in the I-70 Series.
MS - Natchez Trace Parkway.  I dare say the only famous road in the state.
MT - Going to the Sun Road.  Glacier's main thoroughfare.
NE - I-80.  For better or worse, the most exposure people get to Nebraska is in its ugliest part.
NV - Las Vegas Strip.  Easy.
NH - I-93.  Hits a couple of major towns and gets to the Whites.
NJ - NJ Turnpike.  No question.
NM - US66 would have been the easy choice here, but I think it's probably its replacement, I-40.
NY - Broadway.  Everyone has heard of it.
NC - Blue Ridge Parkway.  Beats out NC12 on the OB.
ND - I-94.  Default pick.
OH - I think I have to go with Ohio Turnpike.  You'll sense a theme with the important interstate toll roads.
OK - Eh... I-40 I guess?  I-44 is more important, but more people are going to be traveling west through Oklahoma on I-40.
OR - US101.  Oregon coastline get a ton of tourist traffic.
PA - Pennsylvania Turnpike.  No other option.
RI - I-95.  The only way a lot of people (myself included) have ever visited RI.
SC - US17.  Hugs the coast and a lot of the tourist attractions.
SD - SD244.  The road in front of Mt. Rushmore.  The only thing most people know about SD is that Mt. Rushmore is there.
TN - Beale Street.  Nashville is the more popular town, but doesn't have one street that people know.
TX - 6th Street. I can't name a more important street in Dallas or Houston.
UT - US163.  Monument Valley made famous by Forrest Gump.
VT - Tough one.  I'll go I-89 just because US2 is multiplexed for so long, otherwise it might have gotten the nod because of Lake Champlain.
VA - I-495.  The Beltway beats out the Blue Ridge Parkway.
WA - Pike Street.  When people think Washington, they think Seattle.  When they think Seattle, they think of Pike's Place.
WV - I-64 I think.  It's close with the other interstates, but I think it's a more important route for the state's thru traffic.  I-70 if it were longer.
WI - WI42, the gateway to Door County.
WY - Grand Loop Road.  In Yellowstone, going by Old Faithful.

Chris

Woodward is more famous than Eight Mile and it's really not even close.

Quote from: Flint1979 on November 11, 2021, 05:11:42 AM
Woodward is more famous than Eight Mile and it's really not even close.

I've never heard of Woodward.

Chris

Quote from: Flint1979 on November 11, 2021, 05:11:42 AM
Woodward is more famous than Eight Mile and it's really not even close.

Maybe to locals or road geeks. For everyone else, 8 Mile is exponentially more well-known than Woodward.

Quote from: jayhawkco on November 09, 2021, 10:52:47 AM
WI - WI42, the gateway to Door County.

??  Most people use WI-57 to get to Door County.

I would suggest Lombardi Avenue is the most famous street in Wisconsin.

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Woodward is more famous than Eight Mile and it's really not even close.

Maybe to locals or road geeks. For everyone else, 8 Mile is exponentially more well-known than Woodward.

Yeah, the movie solidified this.

Quote from: Rothman on November 11, 2021, 09:50:36 AM

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Quote from: Flint1979 on November 11, 2021, 05:11:42 AM
Woodward is more famous than Eight Mile and it's really not even close.

Maybe to locals or road geeks. For everyone else, 8 Mile is exponentially more well-known than Woodward.

Yeah, the movie solidified this.

One of my favorite things that I showed my wife in Detroit circa 2019 was how lame Eight Mile is.  I accomplished this by taking her to where my Dad worked just west of I-275 at Haggerty Road.  She wasn't impressed by the Big Boy Statue, Target and some of the most generic white collar office buildings ever seen as the back drop. 

The Woodward Dream Cruise probably alone makes Woodward Avenue worlds more notable than Eight Mile.

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Quote from: jayhawkco on November 09, 2021, 10:52:47 AM
WI - WI42, the gateway to Door County.

??  Most people use WI-57 to get to Door County.

I would suggest Lombardi Avenue is the most famous street in Wisconsin.

Yeah, that's fair.  I thought about that and then shied away from it for some reason.  I'll update.

Chris

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Quote from: Flint1979 on November 11, 2021, 05:11:42 AM
Woodward is more famous than Eight Mile and it's really not even close.

Maybe to locals or road geeks. For everyone else, 8 Mile is exponentially more well-known than Woodward.

Yeah, the movie solidified this.

One of my favorite things that I showed my wife in Detroit circa 2019 was how lame Eight Mile is.  I accomplished this by taking her to where my Dad worked just west of I-275 at Haggerty Road.  She wasn't impressed by the Big Boy Statue, Target and some of the most generic white collar office buildings ever seen as the back drop. 

The Woodward Dream Cruise probably alone makes Woodward Avenue worlds more notable than Eight Mile.

Never heard of the dream cruise. :D

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Quote from: Flint1979 on November 11, 2021, 05:11:42 AM
Woodward is more famous than Eight Mile and it's really not even close.

Maybe to locals or road geeks. For everyone else, 8 Mile is exponentially more well-known than Woodward.

Yeah, the movie solidified this.

One of my favorite things that I showed my wife in Detroit circa 2019 was how lame Eight Mile is.  I accomplished this by taking her to where my Dad worked just west of I-275 at Haggerty Road.  She wasn't impressed by the Big Boy Statue, Target and some of the most generic white collar office buildings ever seen as the back drop. 

The Woodward Dream Cruise probably alone makes Woodward Avenue worlds more notable than Eight Mile.

Never heard of the dream cruise. :D

Nor have I.

Chris

One of the largest car shows in the country:

http://www.woodwarddreamcruise.com/

Basically it ends up being a cruise down Woodward Avenue.  Usually the cruise officially ends at the city limit of Detroit (ironically Eight Mile) but usually often unofficial keeps going into downtown. 

I don't know, it might be because I'm from Detroit but it's hard for me to accept Eight Mile Road as being the most notable due to it being a bad movie reference.  Michigan Avenue (US 12) and Trumbull Street are generally up there also because of the cross roads being where Tiger's Stadium was located.  Telegraph Road gets some note due to the connection to the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa. 

"Lose Yourself" from the 8 Mile movie is this generation's Freebird. 

Chris

Quote from: jayhawkco on November 11, 2021, 10:51:41 AM
"Lose Yourself" from the 8 Mile movie is this generation's Freebird. 

Chris

Is it though?  I couldn't even name the cover song of the Eight Mile movie until you mentioned it.  I don't even know what Freebird off the top my head even is.

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"Lose Yourself" from the 8 Mile movie is this generation's Freebird. 

Chris

Is it though?  I couldn't even name the cover song of the Eight Mile movie until you mentioned it.  I don't even know what Freebird off the top my head even is.

Yeah.  "Lose Yourself" was and is huge.  Takes effort and having teenagers to break through our generational bubbles.

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"Lose Yourself" from the 8 Mile movie is this generation's Freebird. 

Chris

Far more famous than Freebird. "Weird Al" didn't parody Freebird.

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"Lose Yourself" from the 8 Mile movie is this generation's Freebird. 

Chris

Is it though?  I couldn't even name the cover song of the Eight Mile movie until you mentioned it.  I don't even know what Freebird off the top my head even is.

Yeah.  "Lose Yourself" was and is huge.  Takes effort and having teenagers to break through our generational bubbles.

I haven't heard the song in years much less anything else written by Marshall Mathers.  Maybe I was too old for his music to really click with me. 

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"Lose Yourself" from the 8 Mile movie is this generation's Freebird. 

Chris

Is it though?  I couldn't even name the cover song of the Eight Mile movie until you mentioned it.  I don't even know what Freebird off the top my head even is.

Yeah.  "Lose Yourself" was and is huge.  Takes effort and having teenagers to break through our generational bubbles.

I haven't heard the song in years much less anything else written by Marshall Mathers.  Maybe I was too old for his music to really click with me.

Heh.  Hence my reference to "generational bubbles."

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"Lose Yourself" from the 8 Mile movie is this generation's Freebird. 

Chris

Is it though?  I couldn't even name the cover song of the Eight Mile movie until you mentioned it.  I don't even know what Freebird off the top my head even is.

Yeah.  "Lose Yourself" was and is huge.  Takes effort and having teenagers to break through our generational bubbles.

I haven't heard the song in years much less anything else written by Marshall Mathers.  Maybe I was too old for his music to really click with me.

I'm your age.  His first album was probably my most listened music my junior year in high school.  For a song released in 1999, I would argue it's the most famous song from the 90's for teens nowadays. (My wife is a high school teacher, so I'm somewhat plugged in to Gen Z.)

Chris

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"Lose Yourself" from the 8 Mile movie is this generation's Freebird. 

Chris

I also vote "Eight Mile" over Woodward, since I doubt anyone I know has even heard of Woodward lol.

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"Lose Yourself" from the 8 Mile movie is this generation's Freebird. 

Chris

Is it though?  I couldn't even name the cover song of the Eight Mile movie until you mentioned it.  I don't even know what Freebird off the top my head even is.

Yeah.  "Lose Yourself" was and is huge.  Takes effort and having teenagers to break through our generational bubbles.

I haven't heard the song in years much less anything else written by Marshall Mathers.  Maybe I was too old for his music to really click with me.

Heh.  Hence my reference to "generational bubbles."

But are you guys not within the ball park of my age?  Considering the movie 8 Mile came out in November 2002 I would have been 20 years old when I saw it with my older brother.  I don't think either of us (both Detroit natives) came away thinking much other than it was neat to see our home city in a movie besides Robocop.  I certainly don't remember either of us running out to buy the last Marshall Mathers album (although my brother was big into the first 50 album).

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"Lose Yourself" from the 8 Mile movie is this generation's Freebird. 

Chris

Is it though?  I couldn't even name the cover song of the Eight Mile movie until you mentioned it.  I don't even know what Freebird off the top my head even is.

Yeah.  "Lose Yourself" was and is huge.  Takes effort and having teenagers to break through our generational bubbles.

I haven't heard the song in years much less anything else written by Marshall Mathers.  Maybe I was too old for his music to really click with me.

Heh.  Hence my reference to "generational bubbles."

But are you guys not within the ball park of my age?  Considering the movie 8 Mile came out in November 2002 I would have been 20 years old when I saw it with my older brother.  I don't think either of us (both Detroit natives) came away thinking much other than it was neat to see our home city in a movie besides Robocop.  I certainly don't remember either of us running out to buy the last Marshall Mathers album (although my brother was big into the first 50 album).

Obviously there's different experiences for everyone, but I certainly owned the first three Eminem albums.  Stan was pretty revolutionary at the time.  I listened to a lot of rap/hip hop at the time, but in the era of TRL, his music branched to pretty much every "group" in my high school.

Chris

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"Lose Yourself" from the 8 Mile movie is this generation's Freebird. 

Chris

Is it though?  I couldn't even name the cover song of the Eight Mile movie until you mentioned it.  I don't even know what Freebird off the top my head even is.

Yeah.  "Lose Yourself" was and is huge.  Takes effort and having teenagers to break through our generational bubbles.

I haven't heard the song in years much less anything else written by Marshall Mathers.  Maybe I was too old for his music to really click with me.

Heh.  Hence my reference to "generational bubbles."

But are you guys not within the ball park of my age?  Considering the movie 8 Mile came out in November 2002 I would have been 20 years old when I saw it with my older brother.  I don't think either of us (both Detroit natives) came away thinking much other than it was neat to see our home city in a movie besides Robocop.  I certainly don't remember either of us running out to buy the last Marshall Mathers album (although my brother was big into the first 50 album).

Obviously there's different experiences for everyone, but I certainly owned the first three Eminem albums.  Stan was pretty revolutionary at the time.  I listened to a lot of rap/hip hop at the time, but in the era of TRL, his music branched to pretty much every "group" in my high school.

Chris

Seems it.  Most people who find out I'm from Detroit will ask if I'm into rap/hip hop/Eminem music.  From what I gathered there is a perception of people who grew up in or around Detroit regarding music that doesn't really line up with reality.  I've actually found those music genres (also Eminem) to be far more relevant for people who grew up the west coast (hence the example of my wife). 

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Seems it.  Most people who find out I'm from Detroit will ask if I'm into rap/hip hop/Eminem music.  From what I gathered there is a perception of people who grew up in or around Detroit regarding music that doesn't really line up with reality.  I've actually found those music genres (also Eminem) to be far more relevant for people who grew up the west coast (hence the example of my wife).

Just for a data point, I was in high school in both Denver and Jacksonville, FL, and then went to college in Kansas, so three pretty different demographics and Em was huge in all three for my peer group.

Chris

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"Lose Yourself" from the 8 Mile movie is this generation's Freebird. 

Chris

Is it though?  I couldn't even name the cover song of the Eight Mile movie until you mentioned it.  I don't even know what Freebird off the top my head even is.

Yeah.  "Lose Yourself" was and is huge.  Takes effort and having teenagers to break through our generational bubbles.

I haven't heard the song in years much less anything else written by Marshall Mathers.  Maybe I was too old for his music to really click with me.

Heh.  Hence my reference to "generational bubbles."

But are you guys not within the ball park of my age?  Considering the movie 8 Mile came out in November 2002 I would have been 20 years old when I saw it with my older brother.  I don't think either of us (both Detroit natives) came away thinking much other than it was neat to see our home city in a movie besides Robocop.  I certainly don't remember either of us running out to buy the last Marshall Mathers album (although my brother was big into the first 50 album).

I'm also a Detroit native (and I think older than you), so I can understand your disconnect. The movie wasn't a big deal to me beyond recognizing a few of the filming locations, but to a certain demographic it really meant something. I don't think anyone know where or what 8 Mile was before Eminem made it famous. Growing up, I knew it as the eight-lane moat between the city and the suburbs, and it was otherwise unremarkable.

At least Detroit is now in good company; most native Angelenos don't get what the big deal is with Hollywood Boulevard either.

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Quote from: Flint1979 on November 11, 2021, 05:11:42 AM
Woodward is more famous than Eight Mile and it's really not even close.

Maybe to locals or road geeks. For everyone else, 8 Mile is exponentially more well-known than Woodward.

Yeah, the movie solidified this.

One of my favorite things that I showed my wife in Detroit circa 2019 was how lame Eight Mile is.  I accomplished this by taking her to where my Dad worked just west of I-275 at Haggerty Road.  She wasn't impressed by the Big Boy Statue, Target and some of the most generic white collar office buildings ever seen as the back drop. 

The Woodward Dream Cruise probably alone makes Woodward Avenue worlds more notable than Eight Mile.

It's the truth. Eight Mile is vastly overrated and there is nothing impressive about it. It's just a highway that rides the northern city limits of Detroit and separates the city from the suburbs simple as that. As a native Detroiter I don't even have to tell you about either street but that's how I feel about Eight Mile. Woodward is the main drag of SE Michigan, not even Gratiot or Grand River can compete with it.

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 11, 2021, 10:34:06 AM
One of the largest car shows in the country:

http://www.woodwarddreamcruise.com/

Basically it ends up being a cruise down Woodward Avenue.  Usually the cruise officially ends at the city limit of Detroit (ironically Eight Mile) but usually often unofficial keeps going into downtown. 

I don't know, it might be because I'm from Detroit but it's hard for me to accept Eight Mile Road as being the most notable due to it being a bad movie reference.  Michigan Avenue (US 12) and Trumbull Street are generally up there also because of the cross roads being where Tiger's Stadium was located.  Telegraph Road gets some note due to the connection to the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa.

I drove in that in August from Pontiac to downtown and it took me about four hours to get downtown but it was worth it.  Not only that but it's also the street that the flagship Hudson's store sat on, a massive 30 story department store.

If I was to rattle off streets in Detroit off the top of my head I'd probably go like this Woodward, Gratiot, Grand River, Jefferson, Michigan, Fort, Van Dyke, Greenfield, Livernois, Evergreen, Schaefer, Schoenherr, Telegraph, I honestly don't know when I'd really think of Eight Mile because I could keep going before I get to Eight Mile.

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"Lose Yourself" from the 8 Mile movie is this generation's Freebird. 

Chris

Is it though?  I couldn't even name the cover song of the Eight Mile movie until you mentioned it.  I don't even know what Freebird off the top my head even is.

Yeah.  "Lose Yourself" was and is huge.  Takes effort and having teenagers to break through our generational bubbles.

I haven't heard the song in years much less anything else written by Marshall Mathers.  Maybe I was too old for his music to really click with me.

Heh.  Hence my reference to "generational bubbles."

But are you guys not within the ball park of my age?  Considering the movie 8 Mile came out in November 2002 I would have been 20 years old when I saw it with my older brother.  I don't think either of us (both Detroit natives) came away thinking much other than it was neat to see our home city in a movie besides Robocop.  I certainly don't remember either of us running out to buy the last Marshall Mathers album (although my brother was big into the first 50 album).

I was 23 when it came out. I watched it once, in fact I don't even know if I finished watching it because I thought it was one of the stupidest movies I had ever seen. I watched it thinking it was going to show stuff in Detroit and thought it was cool at the time but after I started watching it the movie really made no sense to me and there is no trailer park in Warren, Michigan off Eight Mile so Marshall may have grown up off Eight Mile but I can't find no evidence of a trailer park ever being on the Warren side of Eight Mile. I mean Eight Mile anywhere between Dequindre and Hayes.

I liked Detroit Rock City better.

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"Lose Yourself" from the 8 Mile movie is this generation's Freebird. 

Chris

Is it though?  I couldn't even name the cover song of the Eight Mile movie until you mentioned it.  I don't even know what Freebird off the top my head even is.

Yeah.  "Lose Yourself" was and is huge.  Takes effort and having teenagers to break through our generational bubbles.

I haven't heard the song in years much less anything else written by Marshall Mathers.  Maybe I was too old for his music to really click with me.

Heh.  Hence my reference to "generational bubbles."

But are you guys not within the ball park of my age?  Considering the movie 8 Mile came out in November 2002 I would have been 20 years old when I saw it with my older brother.  I don't think either of us (both Detroit natives) came away thinking much other than it was neat to see our home city in a movie besides Robocop.  I certainly don't remember either of us running out to buy the last Marshall Mathers album (although my brother was big into the first 50 album).

I was 23 when it came out. I watched it once, in fact I don't even know if I finished watching it because I thought it was one of the stupidest movies I had ever seen. I watched it thinking it was going to show stuff in Detroit and thought it was cool at the time but after I started watching it the movie really made no sense to me and there is no trailer park in Warren, Michigan off Eight Mile so Marshall may have grown up off Eight Mile but I can't find no evidence of a trailer park ever being on the Warren side of Eight Mile. I mean Eight Mile anywhere between Dequindre and Hayes.

I liked Detroit Rock City better.

Both were kind average-to-bad movies if I was going to give a critique.  I guess with 8 Mile the story was supposed to be semi-autobiographical account of Marshall Mathers life?  The portrayal of Eight Mile Road is definitely way off of the actual arterial highway reality.  But when hasn't Hollywood taken artistic license to make things seem more than they actually are?

Just go search Google and put in, "What is the most famous street in Michigan?" Look what comes up.

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Just go search Google and put in, "What is the most famous street in Michigan?" Look what comes up.

While I have no reason to doubt this one, I have seen incorrect answers in the answer box. (They usually occur when the answer is numerical and it picks the wrong number from the text.)

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"Lose Yourself" from the 8 Mile movie is this generation's Freebird. 

Chris

Is it though?  I couldn't even name the cover song of the Eight Mile movie until you mentioned it.  I don't even know what Freebird off the top my head even is.

Yeah.  "Lose Yourself" was and is huge.  Takes effort and having teenagers to break through our generational bubbles.

I haven't heard the song in years much less anything else written by Marshall Mathers.  Maybe I was too old for his music to really click with me.

Heh.  Hence my reference to "generational bubbles."

But are you guys not within the ball park of my age?  Considering the movie 8 Mile came out in November 2002 I would have been 20 years old when I saw it with my older brother.  I don't think either of us (both Detroit natives) came away thinking much other than it was neat to see our home city in a movie besides Robocop.  I certainly don't remember either of us running out to buy the last Marshall Mathers album (although my brother was big into the first 50 album).

That's why I brought up having teenagers.  I'm older than you.  My kids were teenagers during the height of Mr. Mathers' career.  Without them, I would have shrugged it off, too, but the fact of the matter is that his movie 8 Mile and the attention it got put 8 Mile in the younger generation's psyches.

No matter what the anticlimactic experience is of the road itself, the fact of the matter is 8 Mile's now the most famous road in Detroit by far.

Maybe if they added EZPass ....

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Hawaii:

Interstate: H-3
US route: n/a
State route: HI 360 (the most interesting part of the Hana Hwy)

Alaska:

Interstate: Almost nobody knows Alaska even has Interstates.
US route: n/a
State route: AK 11, from "Ice Road Truckers" rather than personal experience; otherwise, AK 3 (Parks Hwy). While the Alaska Highway (part of AK 2) is more famous overall, most of it is in Canada.

California:

State route: CA 1, not even close

I'll add I-5 and US-101.

Here's a question: Which counties in California are neither on I-5 nor have a one-road access to I-5?

Sierra County comes to mind.

I-80 (which intersects I-5 at approximately a right angle) nips Sierra county. You may be right that most of Sierra county can't get to I-5 via a single road, but you certaintly can get to Sierra county by driving on just one road from I-5.

I think Inyo County qualifies.

CASR-14?

I started to think of San Mateo county and realized you have to take multiple freeways to go east but CA-1 and US 101 both go south and terminate to I-5.

What about San Benito county? Only county route J1 goes east... oh US-101

I think Inyo County is the only one that qualifies because CA-14 north terminates a few miles south of the county border

Otherwise I don't think there's any route in California that is near famous as CA-1, there are probably some routes that are as infamous though!

It looked to me on GoogleMaps that CASR-14 and US-395 are concurrently signed inside Inyo County. I haven't been there in a LOOOOOONG time, so I don't know the current situation on the ground.

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"Lose Yourself" from the 8 Mile movie is this generation's Freebird. 

Chris

Is it though?  I couldn't even name the cover song of the Eight Mile movie until you mentioned it.  I don't even know what Freebird off the top my head even is.

Yeah.  "Lose Yourself" was and is huge.  Takes effort and having teenagers to break through our generational bubbles.

I haven't heard the song in years much less anything else written by Marshall Mathers.  Maybe I was too old for his music to really click with me.

Heh.  Hence my reference to "generational bubbles."

But are you guys not within the ball park of my age?  Considering the movie 8 Mile came out in November 2002 I would have been 20 years old when I saw it with my older brother.  I don't think either of us (both Detroit natives) came away thinking much other than it was neat to see our home city in a movie besides Robocop.  I certainly don't remember either of us running out to buy the last Marshall Mathers album (although my brother was big into the first 50 album).

That's why I brought up having teenagers.  I'm older than you.  My kids were teenagers during the height of Mr. Mathers' career.  Without them, I would have shrugged it off, too, but the fact of the matter is that his movie 8 Mile and the attention it got put 8 Mile in the younger generation's psyches.

No matter what the anticlimactic experience is of the road itself, the fact of the matter is 8 Mile's now the most famous road in Detroit by far.

I guess I'll just have respectfully disagree and leave it at that.  I can't imagine that song or movie will have staying power as time rolls on to keep Eight Mile anywhere near on the same tier as Woodward.  There seems to be enough to dissenting opinions that suggest it isn't a straight forward lock towards either opinion (I say this after talking about it elsewhere and getting similar mixed opinions).

I never heard of Woodward until I actually went to Detroit. Eight Mile is of course in the title of a movie, and anyone who was a baseball fan before 2000 likely knows Michigan and Trumbull more than Woodward.

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"Lose Yourself" from the 8 Mile movie is this generation's Freebird. 

Chris

Is it though?  I couldn't even name the cover song of the Eight Mile movie until you mentioned it.  I don't even know what Freebird off the top my head even is.

Yeah.  "Lose Yourself" was and is huge.  Takes effort and having teenagers to break through our generational bubbles.

I haven't heard the song in years much less anything else written by Marshall Mathers.  Maybe I was too old for his music to really click with me.

Heh.  Hence my reference to "generational bubbles."

But are you guys not within the ball park of my age?  Considering the movie 8 Mile came out in November 2002 I would have been 20 years old when I saw it with my older brother.  I don't think either of us (both Detroit natives) came away thinking much other than it was neat to see our home city in a movie besides Robocop.  I certainly don't remember either of us running out to buy the last Marshall Mathers album (although my brother was big into the first 50 album).

That's why I brought up having teenagers.  I'm older than you.  My kids were teenagers during the height of Mr. Mathers' career.  Without them, I would have shrugged it off, too, but the fact of the matter is that his movie 8 Mile and the attention it got put 8 Mile in the younger generation's psyches.

No matter what the anticlimactic experience is of the road itself, the fact of the matter is 8 Mile's now the most famous road in Detroit by far.

I guess I'll just have respectfully disagree and leave it at that.  I can't imagine that song or movie will have staying power as time rolls on to keep Eight Mile anywhere near on the same tier as Woodward.  There seems to be enough to dissenting opinions that suggest it isn't a straight forward lock towards either opinion (I say this after talking about it elsewhere and getting similar mixed opinions).

Heh.  More comments saying Woodward is less popular than 8 Mile than the other way around in here, anyway.  But, okay.

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Thought I'd just put out what I would personally consider the most famous route in each state.  That way you can all tell me how wrong I am. :)

While I was reading this post, I was thinking it would be a neat idea to see what outsiders thought of the most famous routes outside their own state.

That would be a neat idea for a separate thread - what interstate, US, and state routes do you believe are the most famous - for every state you have NEVER visited. Would be interesting to see which roads really permeate pop/roadgeek culture.

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If Route 66 is not the answer for Texas, then I would think I-10 would be. Popularly known as the widest freeway in the world, plus it goes on for 880 miles. A lot of people seem to know that.

Personally I think the Old San Antonio Road or the Bankhead Highway.  The only accolade anyone outside Houston thinks of I-10 is indeed its length from Orange to Anthony.  The very reason you say "if it isn't US-66" is because we all know an interstate is just a couple of strips of concrete. It lacks the character (Soul?) of an old time highway.

For state highways, PA 61 just because of Centralia and an abandoned section (my closest state route :bigass:)

US Routes: 20, 30 or 6. Both 6 and 20 because they're the longest numbered highways of any kind in the country. 30 because of all the reasons stated before.


And I agree with the Turnpike as the most famous Interstate in the state.

Quote from: JayhawkCO on November 09, 2021, 12:03:01 PM

Quote from: US20IL64 on November 09, 2021, 11:54:27 AM
"IL - I-294.  Tri-State Tollway is pretty well known to people from at least, well, three states."

State St, Lake Shore Dr, Michigan Av, Lower Wacker Dr. and even the city Xways [Ike, JFK, Ryan] are more well known to average folks. IMHO.  :cool:   I-90/55 and US 20/30/41 for route #s

I toyed with the idea of Lakeshore and Michigan Ave., but I'll stick with I-294.  I even thought about Clark for a minute just because of Wrigley.

Chris

LSD is way more famous than the Tri-state. How many movies and TV shows and songs does 294 show up in? Non-road geeks who haven't been to Chicago almost certainly don't know the Tri-state, but plenty know LSD.

100% agree with you on 8 Mile tho. I'd never heard of Woodward before seeing this thread.

Quote from: jaehak on August 22, 2022, 12:54:03 PM

Quote from: JayhawkCO on November 09, 2021, 12:03:01 PM

Quote from: US20IL64 on November 09, 2021, 11:54:27 AM
"IL - I-294.  Tri-State Tollway is pretty well known to people from at least, well, three states."

State St, Lake Shore Dr, Michigan Av, Lower Wacker Dr. and even the city Xways [Ike, JFK, Ryan] are more well known to average folks. IMHO.  :cool:   I-90/55 and US 20/30/41 for route #s

I toyed with the idea of Lakeshore and Michigan Ave., but I'll stick with I-294.  I even thought about Clark for a minute just because of Wrigley.

Chris

LSD is way more famous than the Tri-state. How many movies and TV shows and songs does 294 show up in? Non-road geeks who haven't been to Chicago almost certainly don't know the Tri-state, but plenty know LSD.

100% agree with you on 8 Mile tho. I'd never heard of Woodward before seeing this thread.

Yeah. I'm fine with Lakeshore. I'm 100% adamant about 8 Mile though.

If we're going by being a destination that is known outside the region, Washington's has to be the North Cascades Highway (SR 20). Plenty of guidebooks point specifically to it, and it's special enough to have guide signs that spell out its name (a rarity in WA).

Quote from: JayhawkCO on November 09, 2021, 10:52:47 AM
WA - Pike Street.  When people think Washington, they think Seattle.  When they think Seattle, they think of Pike's Place.

It's just Pike Place, no possessive. This is one of the Seattle shibboleths that can weed out transplants and tourists.

The only reason I had to see Pike Place is due to the insanity of the FISH video that used to be popular with Human Resource types.  Sadly the reality of Pike Place doesn't match up to the cheerful madness of FISH.



For Washington other alternates I would have picked would be WA 20 through Deception Pass and Hurricane Ridge Road.  The Viaduct and various bridges would be contenders also.

Quote from: jaehak on August 22, 2022, 12:54:03 PM

LSD is way more famous than the Tri-state. How many movies and TV shows and songs does 294 show up in? Non-road geeks who haven't been to Chicago almost certainly don't know the Tri-state, but plenty know LSD.

100% agree with you on 8 Mile tho. I'd never heard of Woodward before seeing this thread.

This right here ^ :clap:

No question that LSD is the most famous route in IL. As for MI, Woodward and 8 Mile are true of Detroit, but M-22 seems to be more famous to non-Detroiters.

Quote from: Bruce on August 23, 2022, 03:31:05 PM
If we're going by being a destination that is known outside the region, Washington's has to be the North Cascades Highway (SR 20). Plenty of guidebooks point specifically to it, and it's special enough to have guide signs that spell out its name (a rarity in WA).

Quote from: JayhawkCO on November 09, 2021, 10:52:47 AM
WA - Pike Street.  When people think Washington, they think Seattle.  When they think Seattle, they think of Pike's Place.

It's just Pike Place, no possessive. This is one of the Seattle shibboleths that can weed out transplants and tourists.

Yeah. I knew that. I used to live in Belltown but just went too quickly. I guarantee you that non-Pacific Northwesterners have barely heard of North Cascades National Park much less the road that goes through it.

Quote from: StogieGuy7 on August 23, 2022, 03:54:08 PM
No question that LSD is the most famous route in IL. As for MI, Woodward and 8 Mile are true of Detroit, but M-22 seems to be more famous to non-Detroiters.

Are you saying non-Detroit Michiganders? Or non-Detroiters overall? I think that's where some this thread is getting a little confused. I'm talking about, in the country, which route is known by non-locals of that area. Sure, more people in Denver have heard of Colfax than probably any non-Coloradoans have heard of any particular route here, but that doesn't make it famous. It just makes it local and important. Fame should transcend locality. A good amount of folks know you take I-70 to go to the mountains, so that's the most "famous" route.

I know it was discussed earlier in the thread, but 8 Mile became iconic with a certain generation in this country because of Eminem. I think there's no further argument (even though there will be :) ).

The Big Boy statue at 8 Mile and I-275 fortunately has always been there for me when I've needed to disappoint a family member regarding their perception of Metro Detroit.

Alabama: US-78 (Selma to Montgomery route)
Alaska: AK-2 (Alaska Highway)
Arizona: Historic US-66
Arkansas: AR-7
California: CA-1 (Pacific Coast Highway) or US-101
Colorado: US-34 (Trail Ridge Road)
Connecticut: I-95 or CT-169
Delaware: I-95 (Delaware Turnpike)
Florida: US-1 (Overseas Highway)
Georgia: I-75?
Hawaii: HI-36/360 (Hana Highway)
Idaho: US-12 or I-84
Illinois: Lake Shore Drive
Indiana: I-65?
Iowa: ?
Kansas: I-35
Kentucky: ?
Louisiana: I-10
Maine: Park Loop Road
Maryland: I-495
Massachusetts: I-90, I-93 or I-95
Michigan: M-185
Minnesota: I-94?
Mississippi: Natchez Trace Parkway
Missouri: Historic US-66
Montana: Going-to-the-sun Road
Nebraska: ?
Nevada: Las Vegas Strip
New Hampshire: I-93
New Jersey: Boardwalk in A.C. if that counts as a road, otherwise Park Place in A.C.
New Mexico: Historic US-66
New York: Broadway
North Carolina: Blue Ridge Parkway
North Dakota: Enchanted Highway
Ohio: I-75?
Oklahoma: Historic US-66
Oregon: US-101
Pennsylvania: I-76?
Rhode Island: Ocean Drive
South Carolina: ?
South Dakota: SD-14?
Tennessee: I-40?
Texas: I-10
Utah: UT-7 or US-89
Vermont: VT-100
Virginia: Blue Ridge Parkway
Washington: I-5
West Virginia: I-77?
Wisconsin: ?
Wyoming: Grand Loop Road

Did you mean UT 9?

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 23, 2022, 08:13:40 PM
Did you mean UT 9?

Yes, whoops.

Quote from: TheGrassGuy on August 23, 2022, 08:29:22 PM

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 23, 2022, 08:13:40 PM
Did you mean UT 9?

Yes, whoops.

I'd think Utah 12 is more famous than 9. 9 does have some number recognition among the general public but most people still think of it as just "the road to Zion". 12 is better known as a route itself.

Quote from: TheGrassGuy on August 23, 2022, 08:07:04 PM
Georgia: I-75?

Peachtree Street.

Alabama: better known for the Mobile Tunnel or Edmund Pettus Bridge than any specific route.

Interstate 65 - hits every major city metro in the state

US Route - I'll suggest 80 due to the Selma-to-Montgomery March

State Route - uh, nothing really registers with the public outside of the areas they serve. 59 goes to the Gulf Shores, 182 along that gulf coast, so that might be the winner. 176 should be better-known but I'm okay with its anonymity.

Quote from: US 89 on August 23, 2022, 09:02:38 PM

Quote from: TheGrassGuy on August 23, 2022, 08:29:22 PM

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 23, 2022, 08:13:40 PM
Did you mean UT 9?

Yes, whoops.

I'd think Utah 12 is more famous than 9. 9 does have some number recognition among the general public but most people still think of it as just "the road to Zion". 12 is better known as a route itself.

Quote from: TheGrassGuy on August 23, 2022, 08:07:04 PM
Georgia: I-75?

Peachtree Street.

I would agree UT 12 is more famous, especially nowadays given it has been promoted a lot in recent years.  UT 9 is still pretty up there with other stuff like US 163, the Moki Dugway and I-70 in the Swell.

For New Jersey, I agree with the Turnpike. It easily beats out even the GSP.

For Virginia, while I'm sure many people know about the Beltway and the Blue Ridge Pkwy, I'd argue that the most famous "road" is the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel.

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 23, 2022, 03:43:02 PM
The only reason I had to see Pike Place is due to the insanity of the FISH video that used to be popular with Human Resource types.  Sadly the reality of Pike Place doesn't match up to the cheerful madness of FISH.

For Washington other alternates I would have picked would be WA 20 through Deception Pass and Hurricane Ridge Road.  The Viaduct and various bridges would be contenders also.

Well, the fish throwing is still a thing done for tourists.

The rest of the market is real nice if you want to stumble upon a new shop every so often. I still can't say I've really explored every nook and cranny of the market even though I've been dozens of times.

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 23, 2022, 03:43:02 PM
The only reason I had to see Pike Place is due to the insanity of the FISH video that used to be popular with Human Resource types.  Sadly the reality of Pike Place doesn't match up to the cheerful madness of FISH.

I remember seeing that and thinking it was so stupid I looked it up after I got home. I found a video where some random person found one of the guys in the FISH video at work and asked him about whether his job was actually like that, and the guy basically said the producers took them being silly at work out of context and spun an entire web of HR nonsense around it that didn't actually have anything to do with the way they actually did business at Pike Place.

I've been to Pike Place a bunch of times and seen the fish throwing and chanting and whatnot.  They don't seem to sell that much fish, for all the showmanship.

^^^

It even wasn't much of a show.  They just lazily tossed fish around while shouting "fish"  a couple times.  I expected a manic disassembly of the fish possibly laced with a cocaine addiction.

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 24, 2022, 05:26:55 AM

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 23, 2022, 03:43:02 PM
The only reason I had to see Pike Place is due to the insanity of the FISH video that used to be popular with Human Resource types.  Sadly the reality of Pike Place doesn't match up to the cheerful madness of FISH.

I remember seeing that and thinking it was so stupid I looked it up after I got home. I found a video where some random person found one of the guys in the FISH video at work and asked him about whether his job was actually like that, and the guy basically said the producers took them being silly at work out of context and spun an entire web of HR nonsense around it that didn't actually have anything to do with the way they actually did business at Pike Place.

Apparently the FISH! (I forgot the exclamation point above) starter kit can be had for the low, low prices of only $800:

https://www.fishphilosophy.com/product/fish-starter-kit/

https://www.fishphilosophy.com/product/fish-starter-kit/

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 24, 2022, 07:47:03 AM
^^^

It even wasn't much of a show.  They just lazily tossed fish around while shouting "fish"  a couple times.  I expected a manic disassembly of the fish possibly laced with a cocaine addiction.

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 24, 2022, 05:26:55 AM

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 23, 2022, 03:43:02 PM
The only reason I had to see Pike Place is due to the insanity of the FISH video that used to be popular with Human Resource types.  Sadly the reality of Pike Place doesn't match up to the cheerful madness of FISH.

I remember seeing that and thinking it was so stupid I looked it up after I got home. I found a video where some random person found one of the guys in the FISH video at work and asked him about whether his job was actually like that, and the guy basically said the producers took them being silly at work out of context and spun an entire web of HR nonsense around it that didn't actually have anything to do with the way they actually did business at Pike Place.

Apparently the FISH! (I forgot the exclamation point above) starter kit can be had for the low, low prices of only $800:

https://www.fishphilosophy.com/product/fish-starter-kit/

https://www.fishphilosophy.com/product/fish-starter-kit/

I recall the point was to have fun at work, because even though nobody wants to be there, but we're all in it together...For the paycheck.

- Your mileage may vary whether you can have "fun" at work, or even permitted to.
- How much fun you're having might be linked to how little you're making. Better to do what you like.
- "Fun" sometimes gets dragged down by whomever the lowest common denominator is at your workplace.

Either that, or it was about bringing your own tuna at work, I haven't seen it in a while.

Quote from: formulanone on August 24, 2022, 09:28:38 AM

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 24, 2022, 07:47:03 AM
^^^

It even wasn't much of a show.  They just lazily tossed fish around while shouting "fish"  a couple times.  I expected a manic disassembly of the fish possibly laced with a cocaine addiction.

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 24, 2022, 05:26:55 AM

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 23, 2022, 03:43:02 PM
The only reason I had to see Pike Place is due to the insanity of the FISH video that used to be popular with Human Resource types.  Sadly the reality of Pike Place doesn't match up to the cheerful madness of FISH.

I remember seeing that and thinking it was so stupid I looked it up after I got home. I found a video where some random person found one of the guys in the FISH video at work and asked him about whether his job was actually like that, and the guy basically said the producers took them being silly at work out of context and spun an entire web of HR nonsense around it that didn't actually have anything to do with the way they actually did business at Pike Place.

Apparently the FISH! (I forgot the exclamation point above) starter kit can be had for the low, low prices of only $800:

https://www.fishphilosophy.com/product/fish-starter-kit/

https://www.fishphilosophy.com/product/fish-starter-kit/

I recall the point was to have fun at work, because even though nobody wants to be there, but we're all in it together...For the paycheck.

- Your mileage may vary whether you can have "fun" at work, or even permitted to.
- How much fun you're having might be linked to how little you're making. Better to do what you like.
- "Fun" sometimes gets dragged down by whomever the lowest common denominator is at your workplace.

Either that, or it was about bringing your own tuna at work, I haven't seen it in a while.

Is it still fun if your boss is telling you to do it?

Quote from: Rothman on August 24, 2022, 09:33:57 AM

Quote from: formulanone on August 24, 2022, 09:28:38 AM

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 24, 2022, 07:47:03 AM
^^^

It even wasn't much of a show.  They just lazily tossed fish around while shouting "fish"  a couple times.  I expected a manic disassembly of the fish possibly laced with a cocaine addiction.

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 24, 2022, 05:26:55 AM

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 23, 2022, 03:43:02 PM
The only reason I had to see Pike Place is due to the insanity of the FISH video that used to be popular with Human Resource types.  Sadly the reality of Pike Place doesn't match up to the cheerful madness of FISH.

I remember seeing that and thinking it was so stupid I looked it up after I got home. I found a video where some random person found one of the guys in the FISH video at work and asked him about whether his job was actually like that, and the guy basically said the producers took them being silly at work out of context and spun an entire web of HR nonsense around it that didn't actually have anything to do with the way they actually did business at Pike Place.

Apparently the FISH! (I forgot the exclamation point above) starter kit can be had for the low, low prices of only $800:

https://www.fishphilosophy.com/product/fish-starter-kit/

https://www.fishphilosophy.com/product/fish-starter-kit/

I recall the point was to have fun at work, because even though nobody wants to be there, but we're all in it together...For the paycheck.

- Your mileage may vary whether you can have "fun" at work, or even permitted to.
- How much fun you're having might be linked to how little you're making. Better to do what you like.
- "Fun" sometimes gets dragged down by whomever the lowest common denominator is at your workplace.

Either that, or it was about bringing your own tuna at work, I haven't seen it in a while.

Is it still fun if your boss is telling you to do it?

Yes, the name for that is "forced fun."  

The only other HR program I encountered that was more nutty than FISH! was the Sowing The Seeds Of Culture training at Sears.  Said training culminated with the four piece silent square which actually led to some workplace fights.  Basically the silent square had to be assembled using no verbal or non-verbal communication.  Apparently the end goal was supposed to teach you about teamwork.  Sears eventually issued a recall of training materials and destroyed most of them.  I found a Sowing The Seeds pin on eBay last year and have it on my office cork board.

I've found that the amount they try to astroturf a "company culture" into place is proportional to the number of managers trying to destroy the culture that the business naturally wants to have. The result ends up being very reminiscent of a homeowner battling weeds on their lawn–they want plants there but not those plants! It's also especially funny when HR lurches from one culture program to another trying desperately to find one that works, usually completely undermining all of the principles of the one they last tried.

I've observed really much of the same.  Usually HR and corporate types have a pie in the sky vision of what goes on at their operating units versus what reality actually is.  In what I do there is usually similar shock when I tell a corporate person that a policy or safety program isn't being followed to the letter in corporate policy. 

The difference between working in a corporate office and the field is vast.  Having worked in both my observation is most corporate office types have very little idea what goes on beyond at operating units aside from the polished turd version they see on announced visits.  Once something comes up that goes against the grain with corporate policy there is usually some sort blanket training that comes out. 

(BTW, I recall seeing fish in flight at Pike Place back in the 1990s. That was a thing.)

I think NH-112 is moderately famous, as the Kancamagus Highway.

US-101 in NoCal is called the Redwood Highway, which I had heard of long before I had even been to California because it has the tallest trees in the world.

The Grand Army of the Republic Highway is US-6. If you've lived around it in one state, you probably know it goes all the way across country.

US-50 in Nevada has the unofficial but famous name, "The Loneliest Road in the Country". (Which it's not.)

AK-11 is famous as the Dalton Highway.

Most of these aren't in "my state", but the fact that I've heard of them is a smidgen of evidence that they're famous.

Quote from: pderocco on August 25, 2022, 02:40:18 PM
(BTW, I recall seeing fish in flight at Pike Place back in the 1990s. That was a thing.)

Maybe the version I'm seeing is the post FISH! apathetic version of the Pike Place fish toss.

Another one for Massachusetts.

MA 2 Mohawk Trail

ARDOT has pushed to make US 61 a major highway through the link to history of musicians like Johnny Cash, but I think AR 7 is still the most popular highway because of its scenery. Still see a ton of Texas tags on that road.

Quote from: BlueOutback7 on August 25, 2022, 03:00:13 PM
Another one for Massachusetts.

MA 2 Mohawk Trail

Yep, that's also my favorite route!