When it comes to control cities, the vast majority of them are either within the state or in an adjacent state; however, on occasion you'll find one that's in a non-neighboring state. For me, the example that comes to mind most readily is the signage in Maryland for New York on I-95 northbound past Baltimore. (It seems as though MDOT thought that Philadelphia didn't exist, or something like that...)
Further down I-95, in Petersburg, VA at the junction with I-85, you have the somewhat famous signs for Miami and Atlanta (not sure if they're still there or not).
Throughout the country, what other examples are there of control cities in another state - one that's not adjacent to the state in which the sign is located?
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 01, 2021, 08:49:31 AM
When it comes to control cities, the vast majority of them are either within the state or in an adjacent state; however, on occasion you'll find one that's in a non-neighboring state. For me, the example that comes to mind most readily is the signage in Maryland for New York on I-95 northbound past Baltimore. (It seems as though MDOT thought that Philadelphia didn't exist, or something like that...)
Further down I-95, in Petersburg, VA at the junction with I-85, you have the somewhat famous signs for Miami and Atlanta (not sure if they're still there or not).
Throughout the country, what other examples are there of control cities in another state - one that's not adjacent to the state in which the sign is located?
The signs you reference in Petersburg have been replaced, although as of my most recent trip through the area there was still one LGS just south of I-85 that listed Miami. September 2021 Street View image shows it was still there as of that time (bad sun glare mars image, but I think you can read the sign). (https://goo.gl/maps/FhdUoYv15mmMPFmk6)
There is also a sign listing "New York City" on northbound I-95 in Fairfax County (https://goo.gl/maps/x5JW31SSMKf2paRQ7).
Edited to add: There are also the famous signs listing "New York City" in the general vicinity of Youngstown, Ohio (here's one; there are others (https://goo.gl/maps/c6eA1gkJR6VujM9v6)).
Pennsylvania features both New York and Baltimore as a control cities on I-95, even though one needs to drive thru NJ and DE first, respectively.
That said, does it meet the merit of this thread, since both NY and MD border PA...just not along the route the control cities reference?
St Louis on I-70 WB in Indiana, and I-64 WB in Indiana and Kentucky.
On the flipside, MoDOT doesn't mention Indianapolis at all, so that's out, but Louisville on I-64 EB in IL makes it.
Boston in southern Maine. (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3116939,-70.6144309,3a,75y,209.33h,77.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slDvH0LYmX2c6JJ3ZONFSkw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 01, 2021, 09:25:37 AM
That said, does it meet the merit of this thread, since both NY and MD border PA...just not along the route the control cities reference?
On a similar note, since OH & PA do directly border north of where the Ohio River swings east for Pittsburgh:
Washington PA at the beginning of I-470 in OH (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0691416,-80.8499975,3a,75y,99.31h,83.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMkcYHEb3jnucyi0dG91RRw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=), with I-470 (and I-70 beyond) briefly passing thru WV first.
Illinois using Memphis (I-57, I-255), Nashville (I-24), and Tulsa (I-255)
I think Toledo still exists on a sign for I-80 at the I-57 interchange
Michigan uses Duluth on US-41 at the northern end of US-141:
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.5840272,-88.4706907,3a,75y,341.74h,85.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slzlU_wSPUyYOhuEDh7_QmQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Note that both control cities on that sign are NOT on US-141!
Edit: MI and MN technically touch in the waters of Lake Superior - does that invalidate this example?
There is a single sign at the split of I-64 E and I-77 S on the WV Turnpike that states "Richmond use 64 / Charlotte use 77" although it isn't really a traditional control city sign and the local (and grossly unhelpful, thus the auxiliary signage) control cities of Lewisburg and Bluefield are used for the rest of the time.
Quote from: ilpt4u on December 01, 2021, 10:17:00 AM
Illinois using Memphis (I-57, I-255), Nashville (I-24), and Tulsa (I-255)
I think Toledo still exists on a sign for I-80 at the I-57 interchange
I can't remember since it's been so long ago but isn't Rolla a control city west of St. Louis? If so I'm wondering why Illinois wouldn't use it too.
Quote from: SkyPesos on December 01, 2021, 09:40:55 AM
St Louis on I-70 WB in Indiana, and I-64 WB in Indiana and Kentucky.
On the flipside, MoDOT doesn't mention Indianapolis at all, so that's out, but Louisville on I-64 EB in IL makes it.
Doesn't count, as Missouri borders Kentucky (although there's no direct highway access, only a ferry), and Illinois borders Kentucky as well, although I-64 goes through Indiana between the two states.
Not technically a control city, but there's a sign on VA 127 eastbound after you turn onto it from US 522 in Virginia that lists mileage to Cumberland. This also technically doesn't count, since Virginia and Maryland border one another, but you have to go through West Virginia and take other routes to get to Cumberland.
I-10 in Tucson uses El Paso (correctly, imo) although once in New Mexico it's Lordsburg, Deming, and Las Cruces.
The Miami LGS past I-85 Petersburg VA was still there 3 weeks ago...
Jacksonville FL from Hardeeville SC - https://goo.gl/maps/pBTXShbiW4DBtCS4A
Roanoke VA from Hagerstown MD (have to pass through WV here) - https://goo.gl/maps/NstVLu8NMUQTFkFT8
Winchester VA from Hancock MD (have to pass through WV here) - https://goo.gl/maps/i47SiyhZoq4YbK5H8
Quote from: Mapmikey on December 01, 2021, 02:34:16 PM
Winchester VA from Hancock MD (have to pass through WV here) - https://goo.gl/maps/i47SiyhZoq4YbK5H8
It's a shame the PennDOT advance signage on I-70 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7380542,-78.1816487,3a,75y,201.6h,88.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sV0gj848L7YsFkQakYLt_Dw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m2!1e4!1e1?hl=en) omits Winchester - if it were listed, then it'd be Winchester VA from Warfordsburg PA passing thru both MD & WV!
Which reminds me of another example nearby in Breezewood (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9995291,-78.2381682,3a,75y,270.4h,88.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWHhYplkFP37O5otW8lz18Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m2!1e4!1e1?hl=en) - Washington DC, which of course requires passing thru MD first.
A point of clarification: even if two states do border otherwise, they are treated as non-neighboring for the purposes of this thread if the route in question passes through other states en route to the control city (as is the case with the signs for Louisville on I-64 in Illinois, because you would be going through Indiana).
^ In that case, St Louis on I-55 NB in TN, and Memphis on I-55 and 270 SB in MO would count too, as I-55 goes through AR in between.
Related to the thread with three different states represented on mileage signs: "Boise" on US 95 in downtown Winnemucca, NV (https://goo.gl/maps/FqEPr9eigSY7WiMi8). US 95 passes through about 120 miles of emptiness in Oregon on the way.
Quote from: jmacswimmer on December 01, 2021, 02:54:31 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on December 01, 2021, 02:34:16 PM
Winchester VA from Hancock MD (have to pass through WV here) - https://goo.gl/maps/i47SiyhZoq4YbK5H8
It's a shame the PennDOT advance signage on I-70 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7380542,-78.1816487,3a,75y,201.6h,88.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sV0gj848L7YsFkQakYLt_Dw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m2!1e4!1e1?hl=en) omits Winchester - if it were listed, then it'd be Winchester VA from Warfordsburg PA passing thru both MD & WV!
Which reminds me of another example nearby in Breezewood (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9995291,-78.2381682,3a,75y,270.4h,88.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWHhYplkFP37O5otW8lz18Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m2!1e4!1e1?hl=en) - Washington DC, which of course requires passing thru MD first.
I find it peculiar how they have "D.C." incorrectly spaced out as "D. C." on that sign.
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 01, 2021, 03:38:04 PM
I find it peculiar how they have "D.C." incorrectly spaced out as "D. C." on that sign.
Seen sign long time ago and couldn't remember if just said 'Washington'. Should say 'DC', as the Postal Service and shipping companies use.
Quote from: GaryV on December 01, 2021, 10:22:40 AM
Michigan uses Duluth on US-41 at the northern end of US-141:
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.5840272,-88.4706907,3a,75y,341.74h,85.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slzlU_wSPUyYOhuEDh7_QmQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Note that both control cities on that sign are NOT on US-141!
Those control cities are for M-28, which swaps between US 41 and US 141 here.
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 01, 2021, 03:02:15 PM
A point of clarification: even if two states do border otherwise, they are treated as non-neighboring for the purposes of this thread if the route in question passes through other states en route to the control city (as is the case with the signs for Louisville on I-64 in Illinois, because you would be going through Indiana).
Birmingham for the exit from I-75 SB to I-24 (the sign lists both Chattanooga and Birmingham). Similarly, Chattanooga along I-59 in AL north of Gadsden.
These are actual control cities and not novelty destination listings like some of the other provided examples
Mobile, AL appears to be a control on I-10 in parts of eastern Louisiana:
https://goo.gl/maps/qxjyLJM1bY9i6A8S7
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 01, 2021, 03:02:15 PM
A point of clarification: even if two states do border otherwise, they are treated as non-neighboring for the purposes of this thread if the route in question passes through other states en route to the control city (as is the case with the signs for Louisville on I-64 in Illinois, because you would be going through Indiana).
In that case, then any instance of Las Vegas in Utah. That's a lot of I-15 south of SLC and the westernmost parts of I-70, as you're going through Arizona on I-15 to get there.
The reverse also qualifies, with Salt Lake City as the northbound control from Vegas.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on December 01, 2021, 04:57:13 PM
Quote from: GaryV on December 01, 2021, 10:22:40 AM
Michigan uses Duluth on US-41 at the northern end of US-141:
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.5840272,-88.4706907,3a,75y,341.74h,85.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slzlU_wSPUyYOhuEDh7_QmQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Note that both control cities on that sign are NOT on US-141!
Those control cities are for M-28, which swaps between US 41 and US 141 here.
And if you want to get really persnickety, Michigan technically borders Minnesota through Lake Superior, but obviously there's no road connection.
Edit: I checked a random point on I-95 in Rhode Island expecting to see New York as a control city, but nope... Westerly? Who knows where Westerly is? Clear example of in-state bias...
Along the "water borders" line, surprised no one has mentioned Chicago being signed in Michigan and Detroit
Of course, Illinois and Michigan share a water border out on Lake Michigan
Quote from: US20IL64 on December 01, 2021, 04:06:48 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 01, 2021, 03:38:04 PM
I find it peculiar how they have "D.C." incorrectly spaced out as "D. C." on that sign.
Seen sign long time ago and couldn't remember if just said 'Washington'. Should say 'DC', as the Postal Service and shipping companies use.
What I find equally interesting is how the PTC has handled the "DC" compared to PennDOT...previous signs also spaced out the letters while omitting periods (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9866082,-78.3029533,3a,37.5y,132.01h,90.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s57zW8hq08oVI2e7Y8t4s2Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en), but after sign replacements that removed DC from the main signage (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9865853,-78.3029758,3a,37.5y,128.26h,90.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s70rs_NKemGbB7pRFRk83bg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en), this auxiliary sign now does it per the Postal Service (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9827331,-78.2841646,3a,37.5y,107.1h,88.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5HsqO9KBF69hFMhb0drkiw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en).
Quote from: US 89 on December 01, 2021, 07:38:36 PM
Mobile, AL appears to be a control on I-10 in parts of eastern Louisiana:
https://goo.gl/maps/qxjyLJM1bY9i6A8S7
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 01, 2021, 03:02:15 PM
A point of clarification: even if two states do border otherwise, they are treated as non-neighboring for the purposes of this thread if the route in question passes through other states en route to the control city (as is the case with the signs for Louisville on I-64 in Illinois, because you would be going through Indiana).
In that case, then any instance of Las Vegas in Utah. That's a lot of I-15 south of SLC and the westernmost parts of I-70, as you're going through Arizona on I-15 to get there.
The reverse also qualifies, with Salt Lake City as the northbound control from Vegas.
Ugh, that's ole Miss. La uses Bay St. Louis as LaDOTD loves using regional cities, not long distance except in Shreveport where they do use Dallas over Marshall, TX.
Quote from: SkyPesos on December 01, 2021, 09:40:55 AM
On the flipside, MoDOT doesn't mention Indianapolis at all, so that's out, but Louisville on I-64 EB in IL makes it.
Not entirely correct regarding Indianapolis (https://goo.gl/maps/ygkA8EpS4GQK8NKW7) not showing up in Missour.i (https://goo.gl/maps/bJLxbbXqQYsGWeBz6) I don't think it ever shows up on the mainline until in Illinois though.
EDIT: There's also at least one use of Des Moines in Indiana (https://goo.gl/maps/M1gJ4NapwaU4QV9e9)
EDIT2Quote from: ilpt4uI think Toledo still exists on a sign for I-80 at the I-57 interchange
Unless there's a new sign using Toledo, I'm not finding it Streetview. I do see one use of Des Moines at that interchange.
EDIT3: Also at least one appearance of Chicago in Ohio (https://goo.gl/maps/1f5XoiT5gcsuK5iB9).
Quote from: Flint1979I can't remember since it's been so long ago but isn't Rolla a control city west of St. Louis? If so I'm wondering why Illinois wouldn't use it too.
Rolla does start showing up west of I-270, but it's more of a secondary control city. I thought there were a few more three line distance signs with Tulsa on I-44, but checking in Streetview I am seeing more appearances of Joplin as the bottom line than Tulsa.
Quote from: Molandfreak on December 01, 2021, 08:10:26 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on December 01, 2021, 04:57:13 PM
Quote from: GaryV on December 01, 2021, 10:22:40 AM
Michigan uses Duluth on US-41 at the northern end of US-141:
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.5840272,-88.4706907,3a,75y,341.74h,85.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slzlU_wSPUyYOhuEDh7_QmQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Note that both control cities on that sign are NOT on US-141!
Those control cities are for M-28, which swaps between US 41 and US 141 here.
And if you want to get really persnickety, Michigan technically borders Minnesota through Lake Superior, but obviously there's no road connection.
Edit: I checked a random point on I-95 in Rhode Island expecting to see New York as a control city, but nope... Westerly? Who knows where Westerly is? Clear example of in-state bias...
Oh, but there's plenty of them on I-95, including coming from I-195. There used to be one on RI 37 East using NYC as a control for I-295. It's since been replaced with TO I-95.
EDIT: There is one on the ramp (https://goo.gl/maps/Y7cCjNY1TtPJsQ928)
For the most part, Chicago is the control city for westbound I-94 west of Detroit. (The curious exception is that most non-system interchanges between Marshall and Ann Arbor use Marshall, Jackson, and Ann Arbor as control cities.)
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 01, 2021, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on December 01, 2021, 09:40:55 AM
On the flipside, MoDOT doesn't mention Indianapolis at all, so that's out, but Louisville on I-64 EB in IL makes it.
Not entirely correct regarding Indianapolis (https://goo.gl/maps/ygkA8EpS4GQK8NKW7) not showing up in Missour.i (https://goo.gl/maps/bJLxbbXqQYsGWeBz6) I don't think it ever shows up on the mainline until in Illinois though.
EDIT: There's also at least one use of Des Moines in Indiana (https://goo.gl/maps/M1gJ4NapwaU4QV9e9)
EDIT2
Quote from: ilpt4uI think Toledo still exists on a sign for I-80 at the I-57 interchange
Unless there's a new sign using Toledo, I'm not finding it Streetview. I do see one use of Des Moines at that interchange.
EDIT3: Also at least one appearance of Chicago in Ohio (https://goo.gl/maps/1f5XoiT5gcsuK5iB9).
Quote from: Flint1979I can't remember since it's been so long ago but isn't Rolla a control city west of St. Louis? If so I'm wondering why Illinois wouldn't use it too.
Rolla does start showing up west of I-270, but it's more of a secondary control city. I thought there were a few more three line distance signs with Tulsa on I-44, but checking in Streetview I am seeing more appearances of Joplin as the bottom line than Tulsa.
https://goo.gl/maps/3bpsRWFaNXnsC1BB8
No I57 uses States like ISTA. They used to have Toledo and Des Moines in the eighties I know.
US-50 east in Sacramento has Ocean City, MD but this is one of a rare case in California where they have a control city that is not in a neighboring state.
Also the second example in a Wikipedia picture I-40 east in Barstow, CA shows the Wilmington, NC control city.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Start_of_Interstate_40.jpg)
I-35 in Kansas uses Des Moines as a control city once you are in the Kansas City metro area.
Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 01, 2021, 11:09:05 PM
For the most part, Chicago is the control city for westbound I-94 west of Detroit. (The curious exception is that most non-system interchanges between Marshall and Ann Arbor use Marshall, Jackson, and Ann Arbor as control cities.)
Illinois has a border with Michigan although you can't use a road to get between the two they do actually border each other.
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 01, 2021, 08:49:31 AM
Further down I-95, in Petersburg, VA at the junction with I-85, you have the somewhat famous signs for Miami and Atlanta (not sure if they're still there or not).
As of July 2015, per Street View, the signs mentioning Miami and Atlanta had been taken down and replaced with Clearview signs which only mention Rocky Mount and Durham, North Carolina.
August 2014: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2253828,-77.3938041,3a,75y,141.81h,102.72t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sZFkNecMo76TMSHG4Yqg56g!2e0!5s20140801T000000!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2253828,-77.3938041,3a,75y,141.81h,102.72t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sZFkNecMo76TMSHG4Yqg56g!2e0!5s20140801T000000!7i13312!8i6656)
July 2015: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2253983,-77.3938147,3a,75y,141.81h,102.72t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spP9iZ5sPZJEVkEKMJw59dg!2e0!5s20150701T000000!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2253983,-77.3938147,3a,75y,141.81h,102.72t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spP9iZ5sPZJEVkEKMJw59dg!2e0!5s20150701T000000!7i13312!8i6656)
Quote from: epzik8 on December 02, 2021, 09:06:41 AM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 01, 2021, 08:49:31 AM
Further down I-95, in Petersburg, VA at the junction with I-85, you have the somewhat famous signs for Miami and Atlanta (not sure if they're still there or not).
As of July 2015, per Street View, the signs mentioning Miami and Atlanta had been taken down and replaced with Clearview signs which only mention Rocky Mount and Durham, North Carolina.
August 2014: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2253828,-77.3938041,3a,75y,141.81h,102.72t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sZFkNecMo76TMSHG4Yqg56g!2e0!5s20140801T000000!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2253828,-77.3938041,3a,75y,141.81h,102.72t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sZFkNecMo76TMSHG4Yqg56g!2e0!5s20140801T000000!7i13312!8i6656)
July 2015: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2253983,-77.3938147,3a,75y,141.81h,102.72t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spP9iZ5sPZJEVkEKMJw59dg!2e0!5s20150701T000000!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2253983,-77.3938147,3a,75y,141.81h,102.72t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spP9iZ5sPZJEVkEKMJw59dg!2e0!5s20150701T000000!7i13312!8i6656)
Miami is still there on at least one sign, on I-95 SB just past I-85, mentioned upthread.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/PvinUmf6zy7uGQiG7
Atlanta is also still mentioned in VA on 2 signs, one north of Richmond in Hanover County and one in Colonial Heights.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/RNbUzxKbrbvWUmpu6
https://maps.app.goo.gl/EfDYSSJJkJcGhCky8
Quote from: ztonyg on December 02, 2021, 08:07:09 AM
I-35 in Kansas uses Des Moines as a control city once you are in the Kansas City metro area.
There's also a sign for Des Moines along westbound I-90 at the interchange with I-80/94 in northwest Indiana:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51279881931_32c339382e.jpg)
I'm surprised that they didn't arrange the shields vertically on that sign like they normally do in Indiana.
Quote from: ran4sh on December 02, 2021, 08:27:24 PM
I'm surprised that they didn't arrange the shields vertically on that sign like they normally do in Indiana.
That is on the Toll Road, which is not InDOT-maintained
New York City in NE Ohio along I-80.
Memphis is used for I-57 south in the Chicago area.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6285195,-87.6931274,3a,75y,161.25h,94.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sz4jcQatc9fpm_haEwJXBfA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
IMO it should be Champaign / Urbana.
Quote from: roadman65 on December 01, 2021, 11:59:04 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/3bpsRWFaNXnsC1BB8
No I57 uses States like ISTA. They used to have Toledo and Des Moines in the eighties I know.
Wasn't clear enough in my post - was referring to use of Des Moines on I-80/ (https://goo.gl/maps/dssvH1Z1bKJR2Tob8)
EDIT: And since we can count control cities where the highway passes through a second state before entering a third state that otherwise borders the first state, Paducah, KY for the US 60 - US 62 - MO 77 exit on I-57 in Missouri (https://goo.gl/maps/kquq9fWgrZQ2SzVeA)
New York on I-95 in MD I can clearly say. Then I am sure Boston is used in ME on I-95, but do not know for sure, but being the 16 miles in NH has no cities of big size with Boston being so close to Southern ME, I would be sure some signs do use ole Boston.
The Maryland usage of New York for I-95 was in the OP
Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 03, 2021, 04:51:16 PM
Memphis is used for I-57 south in the Chicago area.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6285195,-87.6931274,3a,75y,161.25h,94.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sz4jcQatc9fpm_haEwJXBfA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
IMO it should be Champaign / Urbana.
I think that Memphis is the control city to let people know that it's an alternate route to I-55 but Champaign would probably work. I'd probably skip Urbana though as Champaign is twice the size of Urbana.
Quote from: roadman65 on December 03, 2021, 11:09:21 PM
New York on I-95 in MD I can clearly say. Then I am sure Boston is used in ME on I-95, but do not know for sure, but being the 16 miles in NH has no cities of big size with Boston being so close to Southern ME, I would be sure some signs do use ole Boston.
Lewiston, Maine is where you start seeing Boston signed.
What I would like to know is this: why does MD see fit to snub Philly in favor of New York when it comes to signing I-95 north of Baltimore?
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 05, 2021, 11:15:43 PM
What I would like to know is this: why does MD see fit to snub Philly in favor of New York when it comes to signing I-95 north of Baltimore?
Because more people are headed to NYC.
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 05, 2021, 11:15:43 PM
What I would like to know is this: why does MD see fit to snub Philly in favor of New York when it comes to signing I-95 north of Baltimore?
Probably signing for the Delaware Bridge route that bypasses Philly. Also pretty sure that VA signs New York at the Springfield interchange (or at least used to) and never signed Philly, so NY is a natural progression.
There was a sign somewhere south of Baltimore on I-95 NB that said "TUNNELS TO PHILA-NY" or something to that effect, so at least Philadelphia was mentioned there
Memphis, Tennessee is a control city on Interstate 57 in Illinois, even at its north end in Chicago.
Quote from: Chrysler375Freeway on December 14, 2021, 01:52:48 AM
Memphis, Tennessee is a control city on Interstate 57 in Illinois, even at its north end in Chicago.
Already been mentioned.
Speaking of Philadelphia, signed on US 13 N on the CBBT in Virginia
I remember when St. Louis was signed in Nashville, TN before Clarksville began appearing.
I know that Boston being listed in Maine was already mentioned, but there are also some signs on I-95 in Salisbury, MA that list Kittery, Maine going north when you still have to go through Seacoast New Hampshire first.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 01, 2021, 09:25:37 AM
Pennsylvania features both New York and Baltimore as a control cities on I-95, even though one needs to drive thru NJ and DE first, respectively.
That said, does it meet the merit of this thread, since both NY and MD border PA...just not along the route the control cities reference?
Same with the I-70 East ramps to I-695 outside Baltimore. New York is a control city.
https://goo.gl/maps/tBSrPK9MyjPiiSm38
OR-31 in La Pine, OR is signed to Reno. First off, that is far away, 366 miles according to the mileage sign. Though definitely a good control city choice. Though OR does border NV, this route goes through ~193 miles in California between the two.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6475992,-121.5225147,3a,49y,217.1h,85.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srnntsJohN8VTMWUcixVgvQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1
Similarly, OR-39 is signed for Reno in Klamath Falls. This sign is fun, because of the 4 control cities listed, 1 is in OR, 1 in NV, and 2 in CA. https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2530619,-121.7965716,3a,75y,139.81h,87.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJ3447PRZBRAnJX-SK5M9Kw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1
Coming from Bend/La Pine, OR-31 to US-395 and OR-39 to CA-139 to US-395 are practically interchangeable, being almost the same in terms of time, distance, and highway quality/speed limits. Google Maps tends to prefer the latter, which it says is 10 miles shorter and 4 minutes faster. Which is funny because if you follow that, you'll completely ignore the first sign pointing you to Reno at OR-31 and keep driving. If doing that, I also would bypass the second Reno sign, and continue to OR-140 to bypass Klamath Falls. Google suggests that as well.
Interstate 80 in Ohio uses Chicago west of Toledo and New York City near Youngstown.
EDIT: It's already been mentioned, but not in the same post....so I won't delete this post I guess. :bigass:
Is Boston ever used on I-95 in Maine?
I might be hallucinating, but I recall a sign for I-94 in Chicago mentioning Detroit, instead of Indiana or Gary.
I'd actually love to see DOTs put the final destination of the route as a control city at various points. Seeing "Boston, MA" on I-90 in Seattle and vis-versa would be fun. Or "Detroit, MI" on US 12, and "Aberdeen, WA" in Detroit.
Quote from: TEG24601 on January 08, 2022, 01:41:05 PM
I might be hallucinating, but I recall a sign for I-94 in Chicago mentioning Detroit, instead of Indiana or Gary.
I'd actually love to see DOTs put the final destination of the route as a control city at various points. Seeing "Boston, MA" on I-90 in Seattle and vis-versa would be fun. Or "Detroit, MI" on US 12, and "Aberdeen, WA" in Detroit.
I thought I had seen the same thing years ago but can't recall where exactly it was and can't find it anywhere now but I do remember seeing Detroit signed in Chicago.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 08, 2022, 03:26:32 AM
Is Boston ever used on I-95 in Maine?
Yes. Boston is used in Maine as far north as I think the Falmouth Spur. There is also a non MUTCD sign in Kittery southbound that says New Hampshire, Massachusetts. And in Salisbury, MA starting at Exit 88, they use Kittery, Maine going north. There are also a few mileage signs along I-95 north around Rowley that show Kittery.
On I-295 in DE, just after the toll plaza from the Memorial Bridges, did the interchange for US-13 once have Norfolk (VA) as a control city?
I remember a brief period in Middletown, DE where US 301 turned left going NB to use New York as control city. It was then greened out later to DEL. MEM. BR. before the later arterial bypass ( that soon became developed with retail) was built and then permanently removed.
Quote from: lepidopteran on January 10, 2022, 12:50:25 AM
On I-295 in DE, just after the toll plaza from the Memorial Bridges, did the interchange for US-13 once have Norfolk (VA) as a control city?
While I'm not sure about that, the DE 1 interchange with the Puncheon Run Connector (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1534515,-75.4941596,3a,75y,188.4h,92.65t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5eTfYjwBTMXyLVdlcF9WYQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) uses Norfolk as a control city.