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Title: Maine US 202A?
Post by: Ian on July 06, 2010, 05:16:24 PM
Hey all,

I recently scored on an old US 202A shield from Maine (I can tell it's from Maine, because it has that old "LeHay" font). I have looked all over the place on the Internet for any info on 202A, so does anyone have any info on it or know where it is (or was)?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh4.ggpht.com%2F_ZkmN2RrOJxw%2FTDObt1WdKAI%2FAAAAAAAAfCg%2F9hJDqvOheAo%2Fs640%2FIMG_8247.JPG&hash=c3f8f5262e626278312b51c4dc0185ada154dadf)

Any help appreciated!
Ian
Title: Re: Maine US 202A?
Post by: ctsignguy on July 06, 2010, 06:59:30 PM
I have likewise looked and found very little.  Probably like so many -A routes in New England, more of a local alternate/old routing of US 202 in terms of local traffic served....remember, US 202 was always a local rather than regional route,hence its meandering path from Maine to Delaware...
Title: Re: Maine US 202A?
Post by: yakra on July 17, 2010, 01:18:19 AM
There is not, nor has there ever been, a route 202A in Maine.
While I have seen similar fonts on shields, I'd not put too much stock in this one.
The square aspect ratio of the shield, as well as the 'A' on a separate line below, suggests to me it might be a shield-o for NH-202A.
Title: Re: Maine US 202A?
Post by: Alps on November 19, 2019, 09:02:00 PM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/77002878_10217975619754600_1767957153491976192_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_oc=AQniYDZcuzTy4LrxSBGzSa6f2PihSclh02Co1Is4xjLglab6z7vHrETNeVuFfYA4e2Q&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=dc4b858b0b80cdd1c8077ffd56950429&oe=5E57B8D2)
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Title: Re: Maine US 202A?
Post by: ClassicHasClass on November 19, 2019, 09:59:23 PM
Maybe a flubbed 201A?
Title: Re: Maine US 202A?
Post by: Alps on November 19, 2019, 10:49:23 PM
Nope, it's legit.
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/39308305/me_202a_buxton_july_24_1968/

202A followed what's now the 202 bypass of Buxton. 202 must have followed what's now 4A.
Title: Re: Maine US 202A?
Post by: yakra on November 24, 2019, 12:46:48 AM
Holy blap!

Cameron Kaiser & JP Kirby's pages never mentioned this one; seems 'twas conspicuously absent from route logs and historic maps.
What they do mention is 4 and 4A, which swapped designations here in the past, along with US202.

From the Spring 1982 AASHTO meeting:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fyakra.teresco.org%2Fimages%2FME_US202_1982S.png&hash=3f6b0e1386632756767b0372c53bcc88b6ea36cf)
There's no mention of a 202 Alternate being either removed or relocated along with 202 proper.
I wonder if it was some kind of colloquial localism signed by colloquial yokels...

This is in line with ME4A as attested by JPK:
Quote from: http://web.archive.org/web/20110831115313/http://the506.com/roads/ME/004a2.htmlRoute 4A was formed in the 1980s when Route 4 and US 202 were moved onto a bypass route.
(aside from the fact that 4A already existed where 4 proper is now. Unless we count that as a different route that was formed at a different time.)
and historic maps E.G. https://historicaerials.com/location/43.60413756443483/-70.55428504943849/T1973/13

The 1937 reroute Cameron Kaiser mentions leaves me scratching my head. The evidence above is against it, and any maps I recall seeing contradict it, including an official MDOT 1979-80.
Title: Re: Maine US 202A?
Post by: ClassicHasClass on November 24, 2019, 01:34:46 AM
As I recall, I got that off a 1937-8 MDOT (MHC) map. I'll look around for it but most of those are boxed up now.
Title: Re: Maine US 202A?
Post by: Alps on November 24, 2019, 10:51:19 AM
Quote from: yakra on November 24, 2019, 12:46:48 AM
Holy blap!

Cameron Kaiser & JP Kirby's pages never mentioned this one; seems 'twas conspicuously absent from route logs and historic maps.
What they do mention is 4 and 4A, which swapped designations here in the past, along with US202.

From the Spring 1982 AASHTO meeting:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fyakra.teresco.org%2Fimages%2FME_US202_1982S.png&hash=3f6b0e1386632756767b0372c53bcc88b6ea36cf)
There's no mention of a 202 Alternate being either removed or relocated along with 202 proper.
I wonder if it was some kind of colloquial localism signed by colloquial yokels...

This is in line with ME4A as attested by JPK:
Quote from: http://web.archive.org/web/20110831115313/http://the506.com/roads/ME/004a2.htmlRoute 4A was formed in the 1980s when Route 4 and US 202 were moved onto a bypass route.
(aside from the fact that 4A already existed where 4 proper is now. Unless we count that as a different route that was formed at a different time.)
and historic maps E.G. https://historicaerials.com/location/43.60413756443483/-70.55428504943849/T1973/13

The 1937 reroute Cameron Kaiser mentions leaves me scratching my head. The evidence above is against it, and any maps I recall seeing contradict it, including an official MDOT 1979-80.
So if 4 and 202 were signed together through town and 4A was signed on the bypass, I bet 202A was signed along with 4A for consistency even if it wasn't an official route.