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Title: US Highways that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: cbalducc on January 01, 2022, 11:24:44 AM
Political clout ultimately determines where money goes for highway construction.  People in these forums offer wish that certain highways were built.  But in what cases were highways built primarily to serve the interests of a well-connected few and never carried a lot of traffic?
Title: Re: US Highways that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: Max Rockatansky on January 01, 2022, 11:28:05 AM
Most US Routes weren't "built"  per se but were designated over a former Auto Trail, public road or State Highway.  Unless I'm totally misreading the thread title and this about highways in the United States in general. 
Title: Re: US Highways that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: hotdogPi on January 01, 2022, 11:30:10 AM
I don't think this thread was meant for the US Route system only.
Title: Re: US Highways that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: cbalducc on January 01, 2022, 11:31:39 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 01, 2022, 11:28:05 AM
Most US Routes weren't "built"  per se but were designated over a former Auto Trail, public road or State Highway.  Unless I'm totally misreading the thread title and this about highways in the United States in general. 
I'm referring to highways built after the official establishment of the US Highway system, in particular the Interstates with their loops and spurs.
Title: Re: US Highways that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: cbalducc on January 01, 2022, 11:32:49 AM
Quote from: 1 on January 01, 2022, 11:30:10 AM
I don't think this thread was meant for the US Route system only.
I'm asking about United States highways including interstates.
Title: Re: US Highways that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: hotdogPi on January 01, 2022, 11:38:55 AM
I don't really see the point of I-72 west of Springfield. I understand that demographics have changed, but it still seems unnecessary.

When I-24 was being built, there was a debate: Paducah or Evansville? Paducah won, despite being much smaller.
Title: Re: US Highways that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: roadman65 on January 01, 2022, 11:51:52 AM
Quote from: 1 on January 01, 2022, 11:38:55 AM
I don't really see the point of I-72 west of Springfield. I understand that demographics have changed, but it still seems unnecessary.

When I-24 was being built, there was a debate: Paducah or Evansville? Paducah won, despite being much smaller.

Now both have it. Evansville has I-69😄
Title: Re: US Highways that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: SkyPesos on January 01, 2022, 12:05:32 PM
Quote from: cbalducc on January 01, 2022, 11:32:49 AM
Quote from: 1 on January 01, 2022, 11:30:10 AM
I don't think this thread was meant for the US Route system only.
I'm asking about United States highways including interstates.
Reword the thread title then. "US highways"  mostly refer to the US highways system that was established in 1926, not it and the interstates.
Title: Re: US Highways that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: VetteDriver16 on January 01, 2022, 12:09:20 PM

Was I-220 around Jackson, Mississippi really necessary?
Was I-180 in Northern Illinois really necessary?
Title: Re: US Highways that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on January 01, 2022, 12:24:49 PM
I-99
Title: Re: US Highways that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: cbalducc on January 01, 2022, 12:29:37 PM
Quote from: VetteDriver16 on January 01, 2022, 12:09:20 PM

Was I-220 around Jackson, Mississippi really necessary?
Was I-180 in Northern Illinois really necessary?

I-220 saved travel time for people in north Mississippi to get to Louisiana, Texas, and points west.
Title: Re: US Highways that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: sprjus4 on January 01, 2022, 01:11:25 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on January 01, 2022, 12:24:49 PM
I-99
I think that the route was certainly needed, the only questionable part is the number. But the freeway itself has utility and should continue to exist.
Title: Re: American Highways that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: hbelkins on January 01, 2022, 02:48:48 PM
Fixed the thread title to more accurately reflect what is to be discussed here.
Title: Re: US Highways that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on January 01, 2022, 03:15:29 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 01, 2022, 11:38:55 AM
I don't really see the point of I-72 west of Springfield. I understand that demographics have changed, but it still seems unnecessary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgottonia
Title: Re: US Highways that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: Bruce on January 01, 2022, 05:28:20 PM
I-5 through Downtown Seattle was a mistake that we will certainly regret when it comes time to rebuild.

I-705 is practically useless and cost us the use of Union Station (which has since been bypassed anyway, but still).

Most urban freeways that were "coincidentally" routed through majority-minority neighborhoods were also horrific decisions.
Title: Re: US Highways that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: jp the roadgeek on January 01, 2022, 09:54:33 PM
FritzOwl: All of them
Title: Re: US Highways that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: jlam on January 01, 2022, 10:04:12 PM
I-275 through Tampa. Routing it's way through every downtown neighborhood, there is no way the FWHA would approve it in modern times.
Title: Re: Highways in the United States that shouldn’t have been built
Post by: oscar on January 01, 2022, 10:27:19 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 01, 2022, 02:48:48 PM
Fixed the thread title to more accurately reflect what is to be discussed here.

A re-fix, to focus the discussion to highways in the United States. "American Highways" seems to include highways in other countries in North and South America.

Now, if the OP wants to extend the discussion to highways outside the U.S., I would have no objection. I can think of at least one possible example.