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Title: Removed reversible roads
Post by: tolbs17 on January 02, 2022, 01:23:46 AM
This is on Edwards Mill Rd in Raleigh. This was supposed to be for peak traffic going to the PNC Arena but I guess they just ditched it and paved it with 2 northbound and southbound lanes and 1 center lane.

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Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: KCRoadFan on January 02, 2022, 01:29:59 AM
When I saw the thread title, I thought of Bardstown Road in Louisville, KY, which I remember having reversible lanes when we visited in March 2010, but I believe those have since been removed. Is that the sort of thing you had in mind?
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: tolbs17 on January 02, 2022, 01:32:54 AM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on January 02, 2022, 01:29:59 AM
When I saw the thread title, I thought of Bardstown Road in Louisville, KY, which I remember having reversible lanes when we visited in March 2010, but I believe those have since been removed. Is that the sort of thing you had in mind?
Yes because it was listed under "North Carolina" on Wikipedia and I realized it was removed from that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_lane#United_States

The ones on High Point Rd in Greensboro have been removed also. I believe it was to reduce crashes. The same thing in Raleigh.
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: ilpt4u on January 02, 2022, 01:38:52 AM
The (formerly) reversible Express Lanes on I-70 in St Louis are no longer reversible, and are in a permanent Inbound/Eastbound configuration - that Thru EB I-70 traffic cannot even take advantage of, as the Express Lanes rejoin the Mainline AFTER I-70 TOTSO for the Stan Musial Bridge and the Mainline and Express continues as the eastern terminus of WB I-44

When ISTHA rebuilt all the toll plazas in the 00s (I think?) to Open Road Tolling, Reversible Toll Booth lanes disappeared. They used to be commonplace at bidirectional plazas, with more lanes in the "peak"  direction. Actually, the Reversible Toll Booth lanes may have disappeared in the 90s even - the dedicated 15 MPH I-Pass Only lanes were usually permanent once set up, so no more reversing lanes to get more coin machine collection at rush hour

I don't think either instance are really what you are asking, honestly. But both are removed reversibles
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: Rothman on January 02, 2022, 01:46:57 AM
Trying to remember if reversible lanes were removed in the DC and Philly areas.
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 02, 2022, 01:53:46 AM
Quote from: Rothman on January 02, 2022, 01:46:57 AM
Trying to remember if reversible lanes were removed in the DC and Philly areas.

The Betsy Ross Bridge near Philly was originally 8 lanes wide with no barrier, so lanes could be reversed as needed. A fixed Jersey barrier was installed, and each roadway was remade into 3 lanes in each direction with no reversing option.
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 02, 2022, 02:03:46 AM
The Delaware Memorial Bridge had reversible lanes, in theory. Other than after the twin span was built, and all traffic used the new bridge while the old bridge was worked on, I've never come upon a source that detailed traffic was directed onto the opposing bridge due to an incident. 

A project many years ago that removed the crossover signage and installed barriers all but eliminated the likelihood traffic would be routed onto the adjoining bridge for all but catastrophic events.

Even a bridge cable issue on the WB/SB span several years ago didn't force the issue - bridge traffic was narrowed down to 1 lane for a few weeks, and traffic was encouraged to use other Delaware River crossings.
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: Bruce on January 02, 2022, 02:10:58 AM
I-90 between Seattle and Bellevue, closed in 2017.

The express lanes are being converted into a long-overdue light rail line that will feature the first fixed link for trains on a floating bridge. Scheduled to open in 2023.

A few old shots:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/5449/17467101778_e0f291b10a_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8770/17466921758_71b5332435_b.jpg)

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7722/17655745351_7ffe5e299f_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: KCRoadFan on January 02, 2022, 02:21:51 AM
When I visited DC in 2008, I remember seeing that Canal Road and Connecticut Avenue had reversible lanes. Are those still there?
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: Tom958 on January 02, 2022, 06:06:44 AM
Reversible lanes are dropping like flies in metro Atlanta. In the city of Atlanta, they've been removed on Memorial Drive and Northside Drive, and maybe on Dekalb Avenue.  The ones on US 78 from the end of the Stone Mountain Freeway to Snellville were removed decades ago. The last ones I can remember are on GA 9 in Roswell, where there's an unfunded plan to eliminate them (https://www.roswellgov.com/government/departments/transportation/what-we-are-working-on/historic-gateway-project).
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: GaryV on January 02, 2022, 07:38:07 AM
Opdyke Rd in Pontiac used to have reversible lanes near the Silverdome.  Since that's gone, I assume the reversible lanes are gone too, but I haven't been in the area.
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: 1995hoo on January 02, 2022, 09:12:37 AM
Quote from: Rothman on January 02, 2022, 01:46:57 AM
Trying to remember if reversible lanes were removed in the DC and Philly areas.

Quote from: KCRoadFan on January 02, 2022, 02:21:51 AM
When I visited DC in 2008, I remember seeing that Canal Road and Connecticut Avenue had reversible lanes. Are those still there?

Some reversible lanes here have been removed, some are slated for removal, some remain.


There might be other current or former reversible lanes in the DC area, but those are the ones I remember. In particular, I don't know about the Maryland suburbs because I've always lived in Virginia.
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: SkyPesos on January 02, 2022, 09:13:02 AM
Tappan Zee Bridge, when the bridge was replaced.
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: Mapmikey on January 02, 2022, 09:46:25 AM
Charleston SC used to have three I am aware of:

Both McMillan Ave and Reynolds Ave between US 52-78 and the Naval Shipyard, removed around 1980±
The northbound Cooper River Bridge built in 1966 had them, but I don't know if they were ever used to have all lanes heading northbound (it had a 2-1 configuration), as trucks were banned from the 1929 southbound bridge as far back as I can remember (mid 1970s) and they used the newer bridge's reversible lane.  These two bridges were replaced by the Ravenel Bridge in 2005.
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: ahj2000 on January 02, 2022, 10:29:58 AM
Charlotte used to have some by the former Coliseum on Tyvola Rd way back when if I remember right. They were redrawn a few years after it was shut down.
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: 3467 on January 02, 2022, 10:53:23 AM
Lake Shore Drive and I recall Hollywood and Peterson Avenue in Chicago.
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: Bitmapped on January 02, 2022, 01:19:12 PM
Carnegie Avenue in Cleveland, OH used to have reversible lanes but they were removed about 15 years ago.
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on January 02, 2022, 01:21:45 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on January 02, 2022, 01:29:59 AM
When I saw the thread title, I thought of Bardstown Road in Louisville, KY, which I remember having reversible lanes when we visited in March 2010, but I believe those have since been removed. Is that the sort of thing you had in mind?

Yes, those got removed sometime around 2015 I think.
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: Revive 755 on January 02, 2022, 01:34:58 PM
* The original Daniel Boone Bridge on US 40 - US 61 at Chesterfield, MO used to have a reversible lane until the first twin span (now the current westbound bridge) opened in the early 1990's.

* IIRC the former MO 115 bridge across the Missouri River at St. Charles used to allow reversible operation.

Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: Dirt Roads on January 02, 2022, 02:15:55 PM
The South Side Bridge from downtown Charleston, West Virginia into the South Hills district had a reversible lane back in the 1960s and 1970s. Since it was traditionally the main route south out of downtown, I always thought that it once carried US-119 and WV-14 (later WV-214).  That was incorrect, as the Southside Bridge has never carried a major route number.

Even after completion of the I-64 Fort Hill Bridge into downtown Charleston, the Southside Bridge remained packed during rush hour.  Wonder if that still holds true?
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: westerninterloper on January 02, 2022, 04:20:24 PM
Fall Creek Parkway in northeast Indianapolis used to have a reversible middle lane, but I haven't driven that road in ages...is it still there?
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: plain on January 02, 2022, 05:16:12 PM
There used to be reversible lanes on Coliseum Dr south of Pine Chapel Rd in Hampton, VA. They went away when Convention Center Blvd connecting to Armistead Ave was built and Coliseum Dr itself was rebuilt.
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: jp the roadgeek on January 02, 2022, 06:01:53 PM
Used to be reversible lanes on Asylum Ave in Hartford, CT.  Used to be overhead arrows, but they've since been removed.  Now it's just permanent 4 lanes (2 in each direction).
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: jdbx on January 03, 2022, 02:02:32 PM
Back when there were only 3 tunnel bores on the CA-24 Caldecott Tunnel, the center bore was reversed a couple times a day, depending on traffic patterns.  Once the fourth bore was opened, the former center bore was converted to eastbound-only traffic.
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: US20IL64 on January 03, 2022, 03:54:57 PM
Quote from: 3467 on January 02, 2022, 10:53:23 AM
Lake Shore Drive and I recall Hollywood and Peterson Avenue in Chicago.

Yes, northern part of LSD/US-41, between Oak St. and Hollywood. There used to be hydraulic posts that would go up down to indicate when lanes were in use, but were removed, mostly due to age.

However, the reversible lanes on JFK X-way, I-90/94, are too 'popular'.
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: frankenroad on January 03, 2022, 04:14:17 PM
Columbia Parkway (US-50) in Cincinnati was 5 (very narrow) lanes wide and used to have a center reversible lane.  Then they changed it to 3 inbound, 2 outbound, probably 20+  years ago.  More recently, parts of it have been reduced to 4 lanes, two in each direction.
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: CardInLex on January 03, 2022, 07:31:48 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on January 02, 2022, 01:21:45 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on January 02, 2022, 01:29:59 AM
When I saw the thread title, I thought of Bardstown Road in Louisville, KY, which I remember having reversible lanes when we visited in March 2010, but I believe those have since been removed. Is that the sort of thing you had in mind?

Yes, those got removed sometime around 2015 I think.

Not that far back. They were disabled at the beginning of the pandemic. Restriping took place in November 2020.

https://www.wdrb.com/news/drivers-on-bardstown-road-will-see-big-changes-as-traffic-patterns-shift-nov-4/article_600c483c-197c-11eb-ac97-7fe2d905dca8.html
Title: Re: Removed reversible roads
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on January 04, 2022, 01:06:02 AM
Quote from: frankenroad on January 03, 2022, 04:14:17 PM
Columbia Parkway (US-50) in Cincinnati was 5 (very narrow) lanes wide and used to have a center reversible lane.  Then they changed it to 3 inbound, 2 outbound, probably 20+  years ago.  More recently, parts of it have been reduced to 4 lanes, two in each direction.
Multiple roads in Cleveland had reversible lanes up through the start of the 21st century. (Euclid, Chester, & Carnegie, among others, just on the east side alone)