Micro Elementary School (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5574314,-78.2010687,607m/data=!3m1!1e3) This is the only one I can find, but I'm sure there are more and I don't like them that close to a busy with especially with access because what can happen if you have kids running around and they try to jump on the exit/entrance ramps? I feel like this is a safety hazard having schools that close with access to the highway.
You do realize there is a fence separating the school property from the ramp?
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 04, 2022, 12:25:30 PM
You do realize there is a fence separating the school property from the ramp?
Yes, but still. Bad location for a school.
Central High School (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.464001,-100.4505487,855m/data=!3m1!1e3) in San Angelo is located right on the frontage road for US 67 right next to a busy interchange. I actually discovered this because I was looking at a random GSV of San Angelo and noticed large amounts of kids in the area walking on the frontage road.
Quote from: CoreySamson on January 04, 2022, 12:36:03 PM
Central High School (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.464001,-100.4505487,855m/data=!3m1!1e3) in San Angelo is located right on the frontage road for US 67 right next to a busy interchange. I actually discovered this because I was looking at a random GSV of San Angelo and noticed large amounts of kids in the area walking on the frontage road.
Some districts do poor planning sometimes. Thank god it's not an elementary school!
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9747803,-85.6783216,3a,60y,205.69h,96.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sitPytReVZsHKWbbsf5S8BA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
The condo building next to the ramp from SB US-131 to WB I-196 is the former West Middle School. Sure, there's no direct access, but think about traffic zooming past your 3rd story classroom.
Up until 1967 - shortly after the freeways were built - this was Union High School.
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 04, 2022, 12:45:46 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on January 04, 2022, 12:36:03 PM
Central High School (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.464001,-100.4505487,855m/data=!3m1!1e3) in San Angelo is located right on the frontage road for US 67 right next to a busy interchange. I actually discovered this because I was looking at a random GSV of San Angelo and noticed large amounts of kids in the area walking on the frontage road.
Some districts do poor planning sometimes. Thank god it's not an elementary school!
Central was there long before the Houston Harte Expressway was built, and Caddo was never a major street. 67 jogged down Main Street and then followed Beauregard through town.
Glenmont Elementary in Bethlehem, NY practically has the Thruway in its backyard. :D
Quote from: Rothman on January 05, 2022, 08:39:43 PM
Glenmont Elementary in Bethlehem, NY practically has the Thruway in its backyard. :D
Well, at least there's trees separating it.
Archbishop Spalding High School is down New Cut Road from I-97 exit 12.
Not served by this interchange, but there's a high school in one of the corners of the I-71 and I-275 interchange in Ohio.
Hampton University is right off Exit 267 on I-64, and the university property backs up to the interstate. Same deal with Norfolk State University and I-264.
Marquette University is famously adjacent to I-43 and I-94, meeting at the Marquette Interchange.
Thornwood High School's Football Field's South Endzone almost butts up to I-80/294/South end of the Tri-State Tollway
The school is right next to the Lincoln Southland Oasis, and a couple miles west of the 80/94/294/394 interchange, and just east of the Thorton quarry bridge on the Tri-State
Providence Catholic High School in New Lenox is just off I-80 at the US 30 exit, separated by a former K-Mart and parking lot between the school and the Folded Diamond
Metea Valley High School in Aurora is not very far off I-88 at the "Eola Rd" /really Diehl Rd EB/Bilter Rd WB RIRO Interchanges
There's the George Washington School in White Plains, NY that is immediately off exit 6 on the I-287 Cross Westchester Expressway.
Adolfo Camarillo HS, in Camarillo, CA, is at the US 101 Pleasant Valley/Santa Rosa interchange. The school was built about the same time the road was upgraded to a freeway (mid-1960s).
However, in this case it's the athletic fields that are right next to the interchange, with the school buildings set well back and up a hill. This can cause issues since events at the field are visible to the freeway traffic (although a recent soundwall installation has reduced this), especially when the city had its 4th of July party and fireworks there.
Ugh, I totally forgot that Virginia Tech now has direct access via an interchange on the US 460 freeway since the Southgate Drive interchange was built and opened a few years ago.
Liberty University has a couple of direct interchanges and the school's property straddles the US 460 freeway in Lynchburg.
Dabney Lancaster Community College in Alleghany County, Virginia also has direct access from I-64.
Bluevale Collegiate Institute in Waterloo, ON backs onto the Highway 85/Bridgeport Road interchange (Google Maps link (https://goo.gl/maps/HHDouCp2Nit9TdB86)).
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on January 06, 2022, 02:49:41 PM
Ugh, I totally forgot that Virginia Tech now has direct access via an interchange on the US 460 freeway since the Southgate Drive interchange was built and opened a few years ago.
Liberty University has a couple of direct interchanges and the school's property straddles the US 460 freeway in Lynchburg.
Dabney Lancaster Community College in Alleghany County, Virginia also has direct access from I-64.
UVA has had direct access from and to the northbound US-29 bypass via the North Grounds Connector Road (now technically Leonard Sandridge Boulevard) for some 15+ years now–I don't recall when the road opened, but I believe it was prior to when the current basketball arena opened in 2006.
The property on which Marshall High School here in Fairfax County sits backs up to the Beltway; that part of the property consists of athletic fields. Never heard of it being a safety issue as the OP hypothesizes.
In the Green Bay, WI area, Ashwaubenon High School is built along Ridge Rd, a block off of the ROW for the NE corner of the I-41/WI 172 'Ashwaubenon Interchange', such that I often wonder why WisDOT did not build a pedestrian/Bicycle crossing diagonally through the interchange from NE to SW to connect Ridge Rd to Hanson Rd/Helmuth La.
https://goo.gl/maps/upfkcdtq2jEMYoBW9
Lambeau Field is about 10 blocks to the north on Ridge Rd.
Mike
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 06, 2022, 03:16:26 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on January 06, 2022, 02:49:41 PM
Ugh, I totally forgot that Virginia Tech now has direct access via an interchange on the US 460 freeway since the Southgate Drive interchange was built and opened a few years ago.
Liberty University has a couple of direct interchanges and the school's property straddles the US 460 freeway in Lynchburg.
Dabney Lancaster Community College in Alleghany County, Virginia also has direct access from I-64.
UVA has had direct access from and to the northbound US-29 bypass via the North Grounds Connector Road (now technically Leonard Sandridge Boulevard) for some 15+ years now–I don't recall when the road opened, but I believe it was prior to when the current basketball arena opened in 2006.
Forgot about that one too, probably because I haven't been on the northbound bypass as much.
I could have sworn there was a high school
in the Hampton Roads area that was ONLY accessible via an interchange, but I guess there isn't because I can't find it now.
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on January 06, 2022, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 06, 2022, 03:16:26 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on January 06, 2022, 02:49:41 PM
Ugh, I totally forgot that Virginia Tech now has direct access via an interchange on the US 460 freeway since the Southgate Drive interchange was built and opened a few years ago.
Liberty University has a couple of direct interchanges and the school's property straddles the US 460 freeway in Lynchburg.
Dabney Lancaster Community College in Alleghany County, Virginia also has direct access from I-64.
UVA has had direct access from and to the northbound US-29 bypass via the North Grounds Connector Road (now technically Leonard Sandridge Boulevard) for some 15+ years now—I don't recall when the road opened, but I believe it was prior to when the current basketball arena opened in 2006.
Forgot about that one too, probably because I haven't been on the northbound bypass as much.
I could have sworn there was a high school in the Hampton Roads area that was ONLY accessible via an interchange, but I guess there isn't because I can't find it now.
Maybe you were thinking of Atlantic City High School? Not in the Hampton Roads area but it's only access is from an interchange with US 40/North Albany Ave.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3671405,-74.4752929,1378m/data=!3m1!1e3
The I-84 Sisson Ave ramps, which were once planned to be part of the CT 189 expressway, took out a portion of Hartford Public High School's campus. The school is a few hundred feet north of the off ramp.
Back in 1965, I went to Clover Street School in Windsor CT for kindergarten. I recall seeing I-91 from the fields at the school, although there was probably a fence. I see that the school is still there. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Clover+Street+School/@41.831541,-72.6661367,833m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x89e65575fa3705db:0x8b747156cd2b551!8m2!3d41.831537!4d-72.663948 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Clover+Street+School/@41.831541,-72.6661367,833m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x89e65575fa3705db:0x8b747156cd2b551!8m2!3d41.831537!4d-72.663948)
In Tennessee I can think of a few:
* Coffee County Raider Academy in Manchester is right next to I-24 Exit 111. When you get off that exit during a school zone timeframe, you have to follow the school zone speed limit going south of the interchange on TN 55.
* Wilson Central High School in Gladeville was built next to I-840 near Exit 72 (TN 265 and TN 109).
* Independence High School in Thompson's Station was built next to I-840 Exit 28 (US 31).
* Maplewood High School in Nashville is next to the US 31E Ellington Pkwy (unnumbered) interchange with Broadmoor Drive (I think the school is older than the freeway).
* Pope John Paul II Catholic High School in Hendersonville was built next to TN 386 (Vietnam Veterans Blvd) Exit 2 (Center Point Rd).
* Lipscomb Elementary School in Brentwood was built on Concord Rd next to I-65 probably sometime in the 60's or 70's (no interchange at the time). Then in the early 80's, Concord Rd was taken over by TDOT and became TN 253, and by 1989 or 1990 they built Exit 71. I think the northbound on and off ramps intersect Concord Rd and Lipscomb Dr right in the heart of the school zone, which is most likely an unreasonable 15 MPH because that seems to be the default.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
Quote from: kiwislark on January 06, 2022, 09:28:49 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on January 06, 2022, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 06, 2022, 03:16:26 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on January 06, 2022, 02:49:41 PM
Ugh, I totally forgot that Virginia Tech now has direct access via an interchange on the US 460 freeway since the Southgate Drive interchange was built and opened a few years ago.
Liberty University has a couple of direct interchanges and the school's property straddles the US 460 freeway in Lynchburg.
Dabney Lancaster Community College in Alleghany County, Virginia also has direct access from I-64.
UVA has had direct access from and to the northbound US-29 bypass via the North Grounds Connector Road (now technically Leonard Sandridge Boulevard) for some 15+ years now–I don't recall when the road opened, but I believe it was prior to when the current basketball arena opened in 2006.
Forgot about that one too, probably because I haven't been on the northbound bypass as much.
I could have sworn there was a high school in the Hampton Roads area that was ONLY accessible via an interchange, but I guess there isn't because I can't find it now.
Maybe you were thinking of Atlantic City High School? Not in the Hampton Roads area but it's only access is from an interchange with US 40/North Albany Ave.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3671405,-74.4752929,1378m/data=!3m1!1e3
Yup, you're right. No idea why I thought it was in Hampton Roads.
Ohio State University have 3 direct exits off OH 315, and part of the campus is west of 315 as well (the main parts are all east).
When it's done in a few years, the West Davis Corridor in Syracuse, Utah will have an interchange at Antelope Drive, right next to the Syracuse Arts Academy. I believe the planned freeway corridor is just west of Bluff Road through this area. (Map link (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0894003,-112.0798546,298m/data=!3m1!1e3))
Actually led to some interesting changes regarding the design of that interchange. Not enough space for a diamond on that side, so the original plans had a folded diamond loop for the southbound on-ramp. Current plans have it as a SPUI.
Quote from: mgk920 on January 06, 2022, 03:44:45 PM
In the Green Bay, WI area, Ashwaubenon High School is built along Ridge Rd, a block off of the ROW for the NE corner of the I-41/WI 172 'Ashwaubenon Interchange', such that I often wonder why WisDOT did not build a pedestrian/Bicycle crossing diagonally through the interchange from NE to SW to connect Ridge Rd to Hanson Rd/Helmuth La.
https://goo.gl/maps/upfkcdtq2jEMYoBW9
Lambeau Field is about 10 blocks to the north on Ridge Rd.
Mike
I don't remember much development SW of the US 41/WI 172 interchange when it was built. Pedestrian access wasn't a big issue in the area back in the 70's. Directly south of WI 172 isn't a big deal as it's all hotels and industrial park.
I was surprised when I moved to St Louis and saw the state school for the deaf (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6325962,-90.2623409,18.36z?hl=en) backs up to US 40, now I-64. Since then, St Louis actually built Stix School (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6318879,-90.2557604,18.08z?hl=en)adjacent to the same freeway just a few blocks east. The former Mt Pleasant School (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.5730088,-90.2362023,18.09z?hl=en) (now apartments) backs up to I-55. There are a few other schools across the street from a freeway including Ames School (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6529174,-90.1944935,17.73z?hl=en), DeSmet High School and Parkway Northeast Middle School (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6598813,-90.4460227,16.04z?hl=en) on opposite sides of I-270, and McClure HS (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7720791,-90.3143784,16.11z?hl=en).
Spring Road School in Neenah, Wis. at the SW corner of the US-41 and CTH II (formerly STH 150) interchange. There is a tall sound barrier wall now, but when I attended in the early 1970s there was only a wire fence.
Conestoga College has two main campuses on each side of the 401 at the Homer Watson Blvd/Fountain St interchange. One campus is in Kitchener and the other is in Cambridge, ON. There's also a pedestrian bridge over the 401 to connect the campuses.
Not only is West Deptford High School basically next to I-295, its exit driveway forms the 4th leg of the intersection with the on-ramp to 295 North. https://goo.gl/maps/E5kZ4DXF7e8JVXtj9
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on January 06, 2022, 02:49:41 PM
Liberty University has a couple of direct interchanges and the school's property straddles the US 460 freeway in Lynchburg.
Liberty University is virtually bisected by the US-460 freeway at this point.
Nevada has a few:
Reno:
*Wooster High School (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Earl+Wooster+High+School/@39.5076948,-119.7831005,734m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80993f635ee36f47:0x36361aa7d66755ca!8m2!3d39.5076923!4d-119.7831634) - main entrance along the SB frontage road of the I-580/US 395 Plumb Lane split diamond interchange
*Honorable Mention: O'Brien Middle School (and Stead Elementary School adjacent) (https://www.google.com/maps/place/O'Brien+Middle+School/@39.6212846,-119.8819918,822m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x8099492ae07ab4a7:0x208696d618731a2e!8m2!3d39.6225238!4d-119.8812059) - While not immediately adjacent to the US 395 Stead Blvd interchange, it is close enough that there is a school crossing warning sign (https://goo.gl/maps/caQxuectaahqcpt96) on the NB off ramp and school ped crossing (https://goo.gl/maps/rHEKPDc7AivywxcT7) across the ramp's free dual right turn.
Las Vegas:
*Centennial High School (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Centennial+High+School/@36.2790341,-115.3199657,939m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c89364ac9b884b:0xba48604096e89fb3!8m2!3d36.2790255!4d-115.3193005) - adjacent to CC 215 Hualapai Way interchange
*Western High School (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Western+High+School/@36.1748725,-115.2050957,940m/data=!3m2!1e3!5s0x80c8c177ce8052f3:0x6774d049c2529b1b!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c8c177b3bf25cd:0xdaf458ed97e1891f!8m2!3d36.1768142!4d-115.2027741) - adjacent to US 95 Decatur Blvd interchange
*Ruth Fyfe Elementary School (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Fyfe+Elementary+School/@36.1770896,-115.1947632,512m/data=!3m2!1e3!5s0x80c8c177ce8052f3:0x6774d049c2529b1b!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x80c8c177b3bf25cd:0xdaf458ed97e1891f!2sWestern+High+School!8m2!3d36.1768142!4d-115.2027741!3m4!1s0x80c8c178cd43b34f:0xe450b403d4117fac!8m2!3d36.1768717!4d-115.1962015) - adjacent to US 95 Valley View Blvd interchange.
*There are several other schools around the Las Vegas Valley that are adjacent to freeways, but do not directly abut part of a freeway interchange.
Fyfe Elementary is an interesting case because it's on a really tiny parcel, even for a really old school. The school definitely predates the US 95 freeway through here, so my assumption is that construction of the freeway took up some of the school's land. My recollection is that the school's attendance zone did not cross the freeway, but I can't currently verify that through the school district. It appears the campus is no longer in use as a regular neighborhood elementary school, but has been used as a "swing school" for the past few years allowing other old elementary schools in the district to occupy the campus while their own campuses undergo major renovation or reconstruction.
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on January 06, 2022, 02:49:41 PM
Liberty University has a couple of direct interchanges and the school's property straddles the US 460 freeway in Lynchburg.
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 08, 2022, 03:47:45 PM
Liberty University is virtually bisected by the US-460 freeway at this point.
Or rather, Liberty grew too big for that part of Lynchburg and needed to spread out bigtime in several different directions.
One notable case in Federal Way, WA: Mark Twain Elementary sits right off of I-5 at South 272nd Street and will soon have light rail tracks running above its playground. There was a plan to move the school away from I-5 and the light rail line, but I don't think the funding is there for that project.
South Lake Elementary in Titusville is on the southwest corner of the interchange between I-95 and Garden Street (FL 406).
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 04, 2022, 12:45:46 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on January 04, 2022, 12:36:03 PM
Central High School (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.464001,-100.4505487,855m/data=!3m1!1e3) in San Angelo is located right on the frontage road for US 67 right next to a busy interchange. I actually discovered this because I was looking at a random GSV of San Angelo and noticed large amounts of kids in the area walking on the frontage road.
Some districts do poor planning sometimes. Thank god it's not an elementary school!
I would suggest that high schools located near highway ramps is MUCH less safe than elementary schools would be. High school kids drive to school, and the amount of traffic that is generated in a short time would be much more hazardous.
Put it another way, I live about equal distance from a high school, middle school and two elementary schools. The only one I really avoid during times when schools is getting in or out is the high school.
Breck School, Golden Valley, MN (MN 100 and Glenwood Ave)
Harbor City International School, Duluth, MN (I-35 and 5th Ave W)
http://www.google.com/maps/@34.2316412,-88.7632672,688m/data=!3m1!1e3
Mic drop.
Vestal High School sits next to the folded diamond interchange between NY 26 and NY 434 (https://goo.gl/maps/8R6sPG98PanQepGL9)
A few miles away, Binghamton East Middle School is adjacent to I-81 Exit 3 westbound (for Broad Ave) (https://goo.gl/maps/jDX7EmCBkRp7fMVJ9)
Also in the Binghamton metro area, Chenango Valley Middle/High School is right at I-88 Exit 2 (https://goo.gl/maps/cHSrtKKASBgf9FXH7), and the Port Dickinson Elementary School is next to the NY 7 exit for Hillcrest (https://goo.gl/maps/7gofPSQPbMqxYUev6).
Quote from: SGwithADD on January 15, 2022, 12:54:20 PM
Vestal High School sits next to the folded diamond interchange between NY 26 and NY 434 (https://goo.gl/maps/8R6sPG98PanQepGL9)
A few miles away, Binghamton East Middle School is adjacent to I-81 Exit 3 westbound (for Broad Ave) (https://goo.gl/maps/jDX7EmCBkRp7fMVJ9)
Also in the Binghamton metro area, Chenango Valley Middle/High School is right at I-88 Exit 2 (https://goo.gl/maps/cHSrtKKASBgf9FXH7), and the Port Dickinson Elementary School is next to the NY 7 exit for Hillcrest (https://goo.gl/maps/7gofPSQPbMqxYUev6).
Oh and if we count universities, Binghamton University sits at the trumpet interchange of NY 201 and NY 434 (https://goo.gl/maps/1KDizB3Fsp2F5eH58), and its downtown campus is kitty-corner from the NY 434/NY 363 parclo (https://goo.gl/maps/ffFJsEVHTSnm6HLKA)
Truth be told, I didn't think this was all that uncommon.
Quote from: NE2 on January 14, 2022, 07:13:28 PM
http://www.google.com/maps/@34.2316412,-88.7632672,688m/data=!3m1!1e3
Mic drop.
Matching your bet. https://goo.gl/maps/4EgkUQ3WPq78ckz4A
Quote from: SEWIGuy on January 14, 2022, 02:08:15 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 04, 2022, 12:45:46 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on January 04, 2022, 12:36:03 PM
Central High School (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.464001,-100.4505487,855m/data=!3m1!1e3) in San Angelo is located right on the frontage road for US 67 right next to a busy interchange. I actually discovered this because I was looking at a random GSV of San Angelo and noticed large amounts of kids in the area walking on the frontage road.
Some districts do poor planning sometimes. Thank god it's not an elementary school!
I would suggest that high schools located near highway ramps is MUCH less safe than elementary schools would be. High school kids drive to school, and the amount of traffic that is generated in a short time would be much more hazardous.
Put it another way, I live about equal distance from a high school, middle school and two elementary schools. The only one I really avoid during times when schools is getting in or out is the high school.
I don't know. I live in the same neighborhood as an elementary school and a middle school, and those are pretty hairy because they're plopped down in the middle of the neighborhood. Parents show up before school lets out and idle in the street, ignoring parking restrictions and blocking the bike lane because they're In Line To Get Their Kid, as if they're entitled to ignore the existence of rest of the world because their desire to Get Their Kid is so critical.
The two local high schools are quite a bit more orderly, since those are on large campuses on major arterial roads, with plenty of permanent traffic control to aid ingress and egress into the main parking lot.
In the town I used to live in, the Get Your Kid headaches that Scott describes made driving by the high school a nightmare at 2 PM as the line spilled out into the right lane on the (undivided 4-lane) street. They rebuilt the parking lot to remove most of that bullshit and sent the Get Your Kid idiots to a newly built entry point to get in line away from the street, but COVID hit and then I moved so I have no idea if it's an upgrade.
Yes, newer schools around here tend to have measures to contain the Get Your Kid idiots to school property, like Ronald Reagan Elementary (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1987032,-97.4044633,242m/data=!3m1!1e3), which has two gigantic cloverleaf driveways just for parents to idle in while they pick up their kids. Older schools don't have those, probably because a higher percentage of kids took the bus or walked home when they were built.
(I don't really get what the purpose of waiting in a line is, anyway. At my school (elementary/middle/high all on the same campus), they just had a gigantic parking lot where your parents would park, you'd find their car, and then they'd leave. Seems a lot more efficient than each parent going up to the doors to pick up the kid or whatever purpose the line serves.)
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 15, 2022, 01:00:43 PM
Quote from: NE2 on January 14, 2022, 07:13:28 PM
http://www.google.com/maps/@34.2316412,-88.7632672,688m/data=!3m1!1e3
Mic drop.
Matching your bet. https://goo.gl/maps/4EgkUQ3WPq78ckz4A
What are those southern and western loop ramps even for?
Quote from: GaryV on January 16, 2022, 07:52:46 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 15, 2022, 01:00:43 PM
Quote from: NE2 on January 14, 2022, 07:13:28 PM
http://www.google.com/maps/@34.2316412,-88.7632672,688m/data=!3m1!1e3
Mic drop.
Matching your bet. https://goo.gl/maps/4EgkUQ3WPq78ckz4A
What are those southern and western loop ramps even for?
Jersey barrier on 40/322, so it's used for U-Turns.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/SH66sRkA7viomMuE6
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 15, 2022, 09:46:47 PM
Yes, newer schools around here tend to have measures to contain the Get Your Kid idiots to school property, like Ronald Reagan Elementary (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1987032,-97.4044633,242m/data=!3m1!1e3), which has two gigantic cloverleaf driveways just for parents to idle in while they pick up their kids. Older schools don't have those, probably because a higher percentage of kids took the bus or walked home when they were built.
(I don't really get what the purpose of waiting in a line is, anyway. At my school (elementary/middle/high all on the same campus), they just had a gigantic parking lot where your parents would park, you'd find their car, and then they'd leave. Seems a lot more efficient than each parent going up to the doors to pick up the kid or whatever purpose the line serves.)
Parking lots take up a lot of room, need to be maintained, and they can be dangerous with kids trying to find their parents car.
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 15, 2022, 09:46:47 PM
Yes, newer schools around here tend to have measures to contain the Get Your Kid idiots to school property, like Ronald Reagan Elementary (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1987032,-97.4044633,242m/data=!3m1!1e3), which has two gigantic cloverleaf driveways just for parents to idle in while they pick up their kids. Older schools don't have those, probably because a higher percentage of kids took the bus or walked home when they were built.
(I don't really get what the purpose of waiting in a line is, anyway. At my school (elementary/middle/high all on the same campus), they just had a gigantic parking lot where your parents would park, you'd find their car, and then they'd leave. Seems a lot more efficient than each parent going up to the doors to pick up the kid or whatever purpose the line serves.)
Different Era. In most cases, the kid must be in full view and/or accompanied by a staff member between car and building. The person picking up the child is also supposed to be a registered person, not a claimed "friend of a family but mom/dad couldn't make it today" person. Not to mention, a bunch of kids running in a parking lot looking for their parent's vehicle would be completely dangerous.
And you're not even that old. Basically, many of these ultra-secure protections started around the time you were in school.
My wife lived a few blocks away from her elementary school, across the main street, and walked to school with her mom. She'll tell the story of when school officials told her mom that she needs to be more independent, and walk alone. The first day, she went missing. Her mom was livid. She simply went to a friend's house so all was fine, but even the idea of letting a student walk a few blocks by themselves today, across a busy road, is unheard of in most suburban districts.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 16, 2022, 10:01:28 AM
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My wife lived a few blocks away from her elementary school, across the main street, and walked to school with her mom. She'll tell the story of when school officials told her mom that she needs to be more independent, and walk alone. The first day, she went missing. Her mom was livid. She simply went to a friend's house so all was fine, but even the idea of letting a student walk a few blocks by themselves today, across a busy road, is unheard of in most suburban districts.
Heh. When I was in fifth and sixth grade (and my brother was in third through sixth, as he is younger than I am), we were in the "walking zone" for the second elementary school I attended. The route used a gravel path through the woods, then down a quiet street with no sidewalks. It was fine.
Nowadays, the kids in the neighborhood where we lived (and my mom still lives) ride a bus. If you live in the part of the neighborhood where we did, it's a shorter walk to school than it is up to the front of the neighborhood where the school bus stops (the distance is comparable, but going to the bus stop involves going up a big hill that going to the school does not). Of course I doubt most of the kids make that walk–I'm sure their parents drive them. Before he retired, my father used to grouse about the mothers parking side-by-side, blocking the street, so they could talk without getting out of their minivans.