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Title: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: bugo on July 10, 2010, 11:18:46 PM
I'm talking about small and mid-sized truss bridges, not the great river crossing type of bridge.  The only ones that I know of are the twin bridges on US 169 between Owasso and Tulsa, OK.   Are there any more?

Here is a link to a picture of the bridges:
http://bridgehunter.com/ok/tulsa/152010000000000/ (http://bridgehunter.com/ok/tulsa/152010000000000/)
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 10, 2010, 11:47:41 PM
I-5 has, north of Seattle, a truss bridge on one carriageway, which is the original US-99 bridge.  The other carriageway is a more modern bridge.
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: bugo on July 11, 2010, 01:52:03 AM
Are there any pony trusses on freeways anywhere?  I know there used to be one on US 40/61 near Wentzville, Missouri, but I don't think that stretch was a freeway when it was still there.
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: mapman on July 11, 2010, 10:48:23 PM
This is the only one I'm aware of in California -- the westbound CA 120-to-southbound I-5 transition ramp near Manteca, California:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Manteca,+CA&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=51.04407,113.203125&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Manteca,+San+Joaquin,+California&ll=37.786148,-121.305971&spn=0.025234,0.055275&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=37.7862,-121.305893&panoid=p_SK72k-cS6aOXpZToCHQQ&cbp=12,237.73,,0,1.02

There is also a similar bridge just to the west that serves as a frontage road.  As the linked-to bridge above dates from 1949 (according to the Caltrans bridge logs -- http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/structur/strmaint/brlog/logpdf/logd10.pdf), I suspect this bridge once carried US 50.  
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: Alex on July 12, 2010, 07:34:26 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 10, 2010, 11:47:41 PM
I-5 has, north of Seattle, a truss bridge on one carriageway, which is the original US-99 bridge.  The other carriageway is a more modern bridge.

There are a few truss bridges along the Washington Interstate system.
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: froggie on July 13, 2010, 08:34:35 AM
Until it was replaced about 15 years ago, eastbound I-94 used the 1951-era US 12 bridge across the St. Croix River between Minnesota and Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: mightyace on July 13, 2010, 05:55:05 PM
Here's one on the west side of Bloomsburg, PA.

It carries US 11 and PA 42 South over Fishing Creek in their brief multiplex.  As the highway is divided between the two trumpet interchanges with no other access, this is technically a short freeway stretch.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=rupert,+pa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=48.240201,52.910156&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Rupert,+Columbia,+Pennsylvania&ll=40.989309,-76.477472&spn=0.005653,0.006459&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.989379,-76.47741&panoid=gsuq7FOrlAzUIrlLFb7foQ&cbp=12,28.82,,0,6.2

http://bridgehunter.com/pa/columbia/190011008100000/ (No pictures.)

Before this section was widened a divided highway back in 1970, the truss bridge had the typical metal grid deck and carried both directions of traffic.

I took some pictures there around New Years.  If I have one of that bridge, I'll post it.
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: Alps on July 13, 2010, 08:09:29 PM
Quote from: mightyace on July 13, 2010, 05:55:05 PM
Here's one on the west side of Bloomsburg, PA.

It carries US 11 and PA 42 South over Fishing Creek in their brief multiplex.  As the highway is divided between the two trumpet interchanges with no other access, this is technically a short freeway stretch.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=rupert,+pa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=48.240201,52.910156&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Rupert,+Columbia,+Pennsylvania&ll=40.989309,-76.477472&spn=0.005653,0.006459&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.989379,-76.47741&panoid=gsuq7FOrlAzUIrlLFb7foQ&cbp=12,28.82,,0,6.2

http://bridgehunter.com/pa/columbia/190011008100000/ (No pictures.)

Before this section was widened a divided highway back in 1970, the truss bridge had the typical metal grid deck and carried both directions of traffic.

I took some pictures there around New Years.  If I have one of that bridge, I'll post it.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fpa%2Fus_11%2Fscreek.jpg&hash=4c0f106f0d7fc79f3f3e29090477fee54e6b2b55)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fpa%2Fus_11%2Fs42.jpg&hash=c0ac775f955466584e58e53ad41d1b79465d23d2)
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: rarnold on August 13, 2010, 01:21:52 PM
A few truss bridges on freeways/expressways in the Midwest include, Platte Purchase and Fairfax Bridges carrying US 69 from Riverside, MO to Fairfax District in KCK; Mormon Bridge and its counterpart on I-680 over Missouri River in North Omaha; Liberty Bend Bridge on MO 291 in Sugar Creek, MO.
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: Revive 755 on August 15, 2010, 12:19:12 PM
Quote from: bugo on July 11, 2010, 01:52:03 AM
Are there any pony trusses on freeways anywhere?  I know there used to be one on US 40/61 near Wentzville, Missouri, but I don't think that stretch was a freeway when it was still there.

That was definitely an expressway grade stretch with a local road entrance just north of the Lake St. Louis Bridge that probably would have gotten a stoplight had the upgrade not happened.

If you're willing to have a pony truss as part of a major river crossing, the I-74 Mississippi Bridges at Quad Cities have a long pony truss section:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=41.514876,-90.513471&spn=0.006073,0.020599&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.513792,-90.512864&panoid=9By8jrOjEuxDib01mWnF7A&cbp=12,346.72,,0,3.31 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=41.514876,-90.513471&spn=0.006073,0.020599&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.513792,-90.512864&panoid=9By8jrOjEuxDib01mWnF7A&cbp=12,346.72,,0,3.31)

NB I-55 used to have a dual span through truss bridge over a pair of railroad tracks between the Kankakee and Des Plains River in Illinois, but it was replaced in the early 1990's.  It can be viewed in Google Earth in the 1993 imagery.

Had the IL 3 freeway between I-255 and the PSB been built, it very likely would have used the existing four lane divided truss bridge over the UP Railroad at Dupo.


Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: SteveG1988 on October 23, 2010, 07:57:53 PM
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=US-2+Grand+Forks&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=en&hq=&hnear=U.S.+2,+Grand+Forks,+North+Dakota+58203&ll=47.933133,-97.039222&spn=0.002095,0.005681&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=47.933134,-97.039008&panoid=MoILiEBWLrjfSmnLIY1VEQ&cbp=12,93.32,,0,5

A Smaller truss bridge, US-2 over the red river between Grand Forks ND and East Grand Forks MN.
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: roadman65 on October 16, 2011, 12:22:02 PM
I-278 in The Bronx has a truss bridge over the Amtrak NE Corridor.  It is in the WB Lanes and was the original EB Bruckner Boulevard before I-278.  The EB 278 and Bruckner Boulevard are modern.

I-95 in Jacksonville, FL used to have a truss span over some railroad tracks, but I believe now is replaced.
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: NE2 on October 16, 2011, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 16, 2011, 12:22:02 PM
I-95 in Jacksonville, FL used to have a truss span over some railroad tracks, but I believe now is replaced.
Nope. The C/D roads have boring spans next to the old truss, but the truss is still there.


Here's a former one on the West Side Highway over Canal Street in Manhattan:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F9%2F91%2FWest_Side_Highway_W_at_Canal.jpg%2F800px-West_Side_Highway_W_at_Canal.jpg&hash=a3334d37a2c72130672bb4e375dcde0e48c8ab2b) (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:West_Side_Highway_W_at_Canal.jpg)(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fe%2Fe3%2FWest_Side_Highway_N_approaching_Canal.jpg%2F800px-West_Side_Highway_N_approaching_Canal.jpg&hash=00a20683dc5ac458bb3990dffd62555191b3d37e) (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:West_Side_Highway_N_approaching_Canal.jpg)
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: jwolfer on October 18, 2011, 10:43:01 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 16, 2011, 12:22:02 PM
I-278 in The Bronx has a truss bridge over the Amtrak NE Corridor.  It is in the WB Lanes and was the original EB Bruckner Boulevard before I-278.  The EB 278 and Bruckner Boulevard are modern.

I-95 in Jacksonville, FL used to have a truss span over some railroad tracks, but I believe now is replaced.

The one on I-95 is still there. It is just north of I-10.  There is a short local/express lanes setup there now.  The express lanes use the old truss bridge.  They used to be striped with 3 lanes but now its only 2 lanes.  The new roads were built around 1990 but did not open until the 10/95 merger construction in the 2000s
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: NE2 on October 18, 2011, 11:35:08 AM
Quote from: jwolfer on October 18, 2011, 10:43:01 AM
The one on I-95 is still there. It is just north of I-10.  There is a short local/express lanes setup there now.  The express lanes use the old truss bridge.  They used to be striped with 3 lanes but now its only 2 lanes.  The new roads were built around 1990 but did not open until the 10/95 merger construction in the 2000s
No, the outside lanes were open before the I-10 interchange was rebuilt, but only provided access to the Bay-Forsyth one-way pair. http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=30.32794,-81.67765&z=17&t=O
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: Ace10 on November 19, 2011, 07:28:12 AM
US 90, while at this point is not a true freeway (expressway at the very least, maybe) has three bridges like the ones you've mentioned. These are near the MS-LA state line.
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: NE2 on November 19, 2011, 09:29:33 AM
US 1-9 has three in Jersey City, technically on the Pulaski Skyway but not connected (above the road) to the main spans.
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: roadman65 on December 27, 2011, 08:24:15 PM
US 22 (Easton, PA- Phillipsburg, NJ Bridge) across the Delaware River is one.  I know some may say it is undivided and with four narrow 10 feet lanes, but US 22 is freeway on both sides of it.  Even in NJ for a short distance, it is freeway to Morris Street just east of the toll booths.
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: NE2 on December 27, 2011, 09:43:03 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 27, 2011, 08:24:15 PM
US 22 (Easton, PA- Phillipsburg, NJ Bridge) across the Delaware River is one.
Quote from: bugo on July 10, 2010, 11:18:46 PM
I'm talking about small and mid-sized truss bridges, not the great river crossing type of bridge.
Title: Re: Small trusses on freeways
Post by: roadman65 on December 28, 2011, 07:15:38 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 27, 2011, 09:43:03 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 27, 2011, 08:24:15 PM
US 22 (Easton, PA- Phillipsburg, NJ Bridge) across the Delaware River is one.
Quote from: bugo on July 10, 2010, 11:18:46 PM
I'm talking about small and mid-sized truss bridges, not the great river crossing type of bridge.

I thought that it was small or mid-sized.  If you really want one how about the former one on US 1 &9 in Newark, NJ across the defunct CNJ that was replaced in  the early 90"s.

The Hill to Hill Bridge in Bethlehem, PA on PA 378 is at the start of the 378 freeway, but could be a almost freeway due to the fact it is controlled access.  If a Jersey barrier was where the double yellow line is, it would be full freeway.