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Title: Wikipedia highway page redirects that are fictional
Post by: SkyPesos on February 21, 2022, 09:38:45 PM
I noticed "I-470 (MD)" as one of the options when searching for I-470 on Wikipedia earlier today, so thought it was a cancelled highway or proposed designation for another highway.
(https://i.imgur.com/BA06SSG.png?1)

It ended up taking me to the I-270 MD article, with no mention of I-470 anywhere in the article besides the redirected from message at top. I thought it may be a renumbering of I-270 Spur proposed at some point, but it's not.
(https://i.imgur.com/5UChIZQ.png?1)

Any other Wikipedia road searches/articles with a fictional redirect like this?
Title: Re: Wikipedia highway page redirects that are fictional
Post by: hotdogPi on February 21, 2022, 09:40:52 PM
NE2 created Interstate 366 → Texas State Highway Spur 366 long ago, but it got deleted.
Title: Re: Wikipedia highway page redirects that are fictional
Post by: ran4sh on February 22, 2022, 01:10:12 AM
I'm only aware of non-road Wikipedia redirects that are fictional. I can't believe they got rid of "WP:PITCHFORKS" referring to the page for editors to report incidents to administrators.
Title: Re: Wikipedia highway page redirects that are fictional
Post by: skluth on February 22, 2022, 04:03:14 PM
I don't know why anyone would create an I-470 (MD) page or redirect. The disambiguation page for I-470 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_470) only lists the following:

Interstate 470 may refer to:

Interstate 470 (Kansas), a loop around Topeka
Interstate 470 (Missouri), a connection at Kansas City
Interstate 470 (Ohio—West Virginia), a loop around Wheeling, West Virginia
Three highways which are part of what was once proposed as an Interstate 470 around Denver, Colorado:
Colorado State Highway 470
E-470
Northwest Parkway

No Maryland I-470 is listed.

I have requested that the redirect be removed to avoid confusion.
Title: Re: Wikipedia highway page redirects that are fictional
Post by: Scott5114 on February 22, 2022, 04:07:01 PM
It was created by SPUI. Ask him why he made it.
Title: Re: Wikipedia highway page redirects that are fictional
Post by: jp the roadgeek on February 22, 2022, 04:13:35 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 21, 2022, 09:40:52 PM
NE2 created Interstate 366 → Texas State Highway Spur 366 long ago, but it got deleted.

Should have redirected to TX 130, since that has the 85 MPH speed limit.

I-GOAT (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_art_in_the_London_Borough_of_Tower_Hamlets) does have a redirect
Title: Re: Wikipedia highway page redirects that are fictional
Post by: NE2 on February 22, 2022, 07:11:15 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 22, 2022, 04:07:01 PM
It was created by SPUI. Ask him why he made it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Interstate_270&diff=next&oldid=11200988
Title: Re: Wikipedia highway page redirects that are fictional
Post by: SkyPesos on February 22, 2022, 07:35:16 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on February 22, 2022, 04:13:35 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 21, 2022, 09:40:52 PM
NE2 created Interstate 366 → Texas State Highway Spur 366 long ago, but it got deleted.

Should have redirected to TX 130, since that has the 85 MPH speed limit.

I-GOAT (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_art_in_the_London_Borough_of_Tower_Hamlets) does have a redirect
So I guess London is an oblast of Alanland now?
Title: Re: Wikipedia highway page redirects that are fictional
Post by: webny99 on February 22, 2022, 07:39:19 PM
Quote from: skluth on February 22, 2022, 04:03:14 PM
I don't know why anyone would create an I-470 (MD) page or redirect. ...

I have requested that the redirect be removed to avoid confusion.

Ironically, could the redirect have been created in the first place because of confusion between I-270 and I-470? Not sure why anyone would confuse them, but just a thought.
Title: Re: Wikipedia highway page redirects that are fictional
Post by: SkyPesos on February 22, 2022, 07:47:59 PM
Quote from: webny99 on February 22, 2022, 07:39:19 PM
Quote from: skluth on February 22, 2022, 04:03:14 PM
I don't know why anyone would create an I-470 (MD) page or redirect. ...

I have requested that the redirect be removed to avoid confusion.

Ironically, could the redirect have been created in the first place because of confusion between I-270 and I-470? Not sure why anyone would confuse them, but just a thought.
Thing is that there isn't a I-470 in MD, and neither was one ever proposed outside of a one-off error VirginiaDOT map.
Title: Re: Wikipedia highway page redirects that are fictional
Post by: Scott5114 on February 23, 2022, 04:09:05 PM
Quote from: NE2 on February 22, 2022, 07:11:15 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 22, 2022, 04:07:01 PM
It was created by SPUI. Ask him why he made it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Interstate_270&diff=next&oldid=11200988

Thanks...uh, NE2.
Title: Re: Wikipedia highway page redirects that are fictional
Post by: Henry on February 24, 2022, 10:18:11 AM
There are a couple of Interstate 98 redirects, with one to the section in the site's page about potential future corridors. And then there's an interesting redirect because an I-98 in MI is also included, although it won't redirect to the US 2 corridor as would be expected, but instead to I-696.
Title: Re: Wikipedia highway page redirects that are fictional
Post by: Mapmikey on February 25, 2022, 09:05:02 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on February 22, 2022, 07:47:59 PM
Thing is that there isn't a I-470 in MD, and neither was one ever proposed outside of a one-off error VirginiaDOT map.

Absolutely incorrect.

Maryland did apply for I-470 to replace the original I-270 as part of the elimination of I-70S.

Originally, Maryland wanted I-70S to become I-370 with no change to the original I-270, which AASHO denied.

Go to the AASHO database - https://grmservices.grmims.com/vsearch/portal/public/na4/aashto/default
1.  The I-370 thing is mentioned in this document:  search "other" and 1973 (don't select a state).  2 items appear...it is the one that is NOT the DC one.  Go to page 7
2.  The I-470 thing is mentioned in this document:  search "correspondence", 1973 and DC.  Select the one that is "Correspondence_DC_1973__" and it is on the last page

There also exists an internal memo dated Feb 19, 1974 from Maryland SHA discussing the application for I-470. 

For some reason the approval/denial does not appear in the 1973 AASHO minutes.  A bunch of Maryland documents are missing from the Maryland folder at the AASHO database.