I live in PA right now. I've noticed that the speed limits always skip from 55 to 65, apart from some advisory plaques and signs, and seen around here that it isn't very common to see speed limit 60 anywhere. I've driven out to Weirton a couple times on the US-22 freeway and as soon as you get across the state line into WV the speed limit jumps from 55 to 60. Does PA have some law against 60? What's so taboo about the limit?
In Massachusetts, MA 3 south of Boston has a 60 mph speed limit.
There's nothing all that odd about 60-mph speed limits in some other states; Virginia, for example, posts them on some four-lane divided highways with at-grade intersections (and won't post anything higher on such routes) and also posts them on Interstates in the "transition area" between rural areas with 65- or 70-mph speed limits and urban or suburban areas with 55-mph speed limits. (Going eastbound on I-66, for example, the speed limit drops from 70 to 65 at Haymarket, from 65 to 60 just before the VA-234 Business exit near Manassas some seven miles east of there, and then from 60 to 55 just before the US-29 exit near Centreville about five miles east of there). Florida posts 60-mph speed limits on some highways and on some two-lane roads (FL-16 near St. Augustine, for example (https://goo.gl/maps/7aitshVygSqffFQu8)).
I think–but this is speculation–that one reason some states don't post 60 may relate to the way the old National Maximum Speed Law was written. Obviously that law originally banned anything above 55 mph and was interpreted to require 55-mph speed limits even on certain roads that had previously been posted with lower speed limits. In 1987, it was amended to allow 65-mph speed limits, though originally that applied only to rural Interstates. I don't recall exactly how the provision was worded, but I do recall that I only ever saw one road with a 60-mph speed limit in the period between 1987 and the NMSL's repeal in 1995–it was in a work zone somewhere in South Carolina on I-85 and I saw it from a bus window on the way home from a school trip to Atlanta in 1991. I've always wondered why states didn't post more 60-mph limits and I wondered whether it was because the statute generally allowed speed limits higher than 65 mph only on rural Interstates, so states that were willing to go above 55 didn't see any reason to post 60 (especially states that don't reduce speed limits in work zones). I suspect that states that don't use 60-mph limits now do so in part because they're still largely following the 1987 NMSL structure except as to the overall maximum they permit.
In Indiana, 60 is the standard speed limit for rural 4-lane non-freeways. Freeways, however, don't use a speed limit of 60 with one exception near Evansville. They go 70->65->55.
60 is a very common speed limit in Missouri, at least in the St Louis area, where pretty much all the freeways through the suburbs use it.
In Ohio, they're mostly on rural 4 lanes in the southern part of the state, with OH 32 as a prime example using it as a speed limit.
60 is widespread in MN both on rural 2-lane state highways and now most MSP freeways as well.
Wisconsin and Iowa fall in more with what you're describing, though. I think it was posted here Wisconsin only allows 60 as a construction zone speed limit.
NY is similar to PA in that 60 mph is not used at all. PA does have 70, though, which NY doesn't, sadly.
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 03, 2022, 11:44:31 AM
60 is a very common speed limit in Missouri, at least in the St Louis area, where pretty much all the freeways through the suburbs use it.
In Ohio, they're mostly on rural 4 lanes in the southern part of the state, with OH 32 as a prime example using it as a speed limit.
And on every freeway in Cuyahoga County except the Ohio Turnpike and right through downtown, ODOT posts a 60 mph speed limit.
Here in Colorado, it's sometimes posted on rural two lane roads as well as US 36 freeway in Boulder and I-25 between Santa Fe Drive and Colorado Blvd.
I have a 60 MPH zone around the corner from me on Jensen Avenue in Fresno. It was recently lowered from 65 MPH due to a new school opening. Usually it's either 55 MPH or 65 MPH but I wouldn't call 60 MPH exactly uncommon in California.
Here's Nevada DOT's latest highway speed limit map. 60 is quite rare but not totally unheard of; that's what's posted on the somewhat curvy stretch of US 95 along Walker Lake, part of Alternate US 95 near Yerington and a few minor highways.
https://www.dot.nv.gov/home/showpublisheddocument/17053/637069878487100000 (https://www.dot.nv.gov/home/showpublisheddocument/17053/637069878487100000)
70 mph is clearly the standard speed limit on rural two-lane highways.
Here in North Carolina they are common along urban interstates and on four-lane divided highways
60 is almost unheard of in Georgia. The only 60 zone I know of here is I-20 through central Atlanta. The 2-lane maximum is 55, urban freeways and rural divided highways are generally 55 or 65, and rural freeways can be up to 70.
It's not super common in Utah, but does exist on a greater scale than in GA. Mostly it's used on some urban expressways/freeways and rural 2-laners that are too dense/curvy/etc. to be posted at 65, the usual limit for those types of roads.
Related topic from last year where there was some discussion on the relative lack of 60 limits: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=28545.msg2572714#msg2572714
Off the top of my head, there are exactly 5 60 mph zones in Maryland:
-I-81 from south of exit 4 (I-70 interchange) to north of exit 8 in Hagerstown
-I-195 almost entire length (begins dropping for the BWI approach just west of exit 1)
-I-795 entire length
-I-83 from northern I-695 interchange (unnumbered, but would be exit 14) to exit 18 in Timonium
-MD 200/ICC almost entire length (drops to 55 just west of I-95)
No non-freeways are posted above 55, and only a select few non-interstate freeways make it above 55:
-The aforementioned MD 200/ICC (60)
-US 340 (65)
-US 13/50 Salisbury Bypass (65)
Arkansas uses 60 on their "5 lane freeways" that are in rural areas. But to this day I have YET to see a 60 on a 2 lane highway in Arkansas. Arkansas still insists on 55 for their 2 laners and it doesn't matter if it has shoulders or not, straight as an arrow or curvy. I'm not talking about super 2's or anything like that (65 mph is used on some of the S2's like AR 530 and formerly 549 -- Bella Vista bypass prior to it being I-49).
Two spots I've seen in Colorado:
1) South of downtown Denver on I-25
2) US160 just west of Walsenburg
Quote from: JayhawkCO on March 03, 2022, 02:13:39 PM
Two spots I've seen in Colorado:
1) South of downtown Denver on I-25
2) US160 just west of Walsenburg
Quote from: kphoger on February 16, 2021, 10:41:55 AM
Here are a few I've personally driven:
CO-47 around Pueblo is 60 mph (https://goo.gl/maps/GPd5qkd3ZREwLxBb7).
US-50 west of La Junta is 60 mph (https://goo.gl/maps/xikttxYM7kQbLvW6A).
US-550 south of Montrose is 60 mph (https://goo.gl/maps/ofdjjHpMPQJuPXR77)
It also resumes 60 mph (https://goo.gl/maps/dKyFGAy3cKoifbcd8) south of Ridgway.
60 isn't a common speed limit in Michigan. Most of the rural two lane highways are 55 mph, in the northern part of the state they are 65 mph in several places. The freeway speeds range from 55 mph to 75 mph, I can't think of a stretch of highway in Michigan that uses 60 mph, some I would think are 65 mph and most are 70 mph. The only highways that have a 75 mph speed limit are US-10, US-131, US-127, I-69 and I-75. If I am forgetting one mention it these are the only highways I've seen 75 mph posted on.
Some of the Suburban Chicago Expressways have a posted 60. They first popped up on I-290 between I-90 and I-294. After that, ISTHA adopted the 60 MPH for I-88 & I-355 in DuPage County. The shocker is that I-90 from Arlington Hts Rd heading west and I-355 south of I-55 is a posted 70 despite being truly suburban tollways.
Quote from: US 89 on March 03, 2022, 01:02:40 PM
60 is almost unheard of in Georgia. The only 60 zone I know of here is I-20 through central Atlanta. The 2-lane maximum is 55, urban freeways and rural divided highways are generally 55 or 65, and rural freeways can be up to 70.
US-41 has long 60 mph zones south of Atlanta.
In Québec, 60 km/h is a fairly uncommon speed limit, as the limit will usually be 50 or 70 km/h. As for 60 mph (100 km/h), only freeways go that fast, and some urban freeways go even lower.
I haven't been there, but if I remember my useless trivia right, 60 miles per hour is the highest signed speed limit in Hawaii, reserved for interstate highways.
^ The Daniel K. Inouye Highway, a high quality two lane road, is posted at 60 mph.
https://hidot.hawaii.gov/blog/2017/02/06/speed-limit-to-increase-from-55-mph-to-60-mph-on-portions-of-daniel-k-inouye-highway-saddle-road/
Quote from: Hobart on March 03, 2022, 10:34:39 PM
I haven't been there, but if I remember my useless trivia right, 60 miles per hour is the highest signed speed limit in Hawaii, reserved for interstate highways.
Part of HI 200 on the Big Island, completely redone but still a non-freeway, also has a 60mph limit.
Other than D.C., Hawaii was the last holdout for keeping the hated 55mph National Maximum Speed Limit. It took a botched introduction of a speed camera program (when uniformed police officers make obscene gestures at the cameras, that's a sign you really screwed up) to get 60mph limits in Hawaii.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on March 03, 2022, 02:13:39 PM
Two spots I've seen in Colorado:
1) South of downtown Denver on I-25
2) US160 just west of Walsenburg
CO 115 between COS and Penrose
In Arizona, the only road that I know of with a 60 mph speed limit is SR 238 west of Maricopa (it was increased from 55 mph in 2018).
I have seen 60 in more places than I remember.
To some extent though in PA and some nearby states I don't see as much 60. I think this is an effect of the max limit two lane roads being set to 45 or 55, so then for a freeway or other major road an additional 10 MPH makes more sense than only adding 5, hence you get 65.
Also a factor in this might be the national speed limit, which was 55 then 65.
I have not seen a 60 MPH zone in CT, RI, NH, VT, NY, or NJ. The only one in MA is the aforementioned MA 3. Believe there are a couple in ME (I-195, and I-395 in Bangor come to mind).
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 03, 2022, 04:15:02 PM
60 isn't a common speed limit in Michigan ...
I can't think of a stretch of highway in Michigan that uses 60 mph...
If I am forgetting one mention it...
It is indeed quite rare outside of construction zones. There is a 60mph zone on (2-lane) US-2 east of Rapid River, posted recently enough that it doesn't show up on Google Street View. It's in an area that has fairly dense (for the rural U.P) mix of business and residential properties adjacent, as travelers are coming into a more urban area.
What confounds me is that there was enough of a concern that MDOT felt compelled to NOT post it for 65, but did feel compelled to bump it from the 55 mph it was set at previously. Other areas along the US-2 corridor east of Rapid River will wind down to 55 mph or 50 mph as appropriate for the more residential areas. But that one 60 mph zone stuck out at me, particularly considering far more remote areas of the U.P. *still* are posted for 55 mph.
In no sane, logical world of transportation does US-141 between Crystal Falls and Covington merit a *lower* speed limit than US-45, just like travel conditions don't merit M-117 having a lower speed limit (55 mph) than M-77 (65 mph). M-26 south of Houghton runs through miles and miles of nothing, and only merits a 55 mph limit.
If some wannabe U.P. politician ran on a platform of bumping the rest of the 2-lane highways up to 65 mph, that would probably drive a lot of Yoopers to the polling place. It seems after the Rick Snyder administration, the appetite from the legislature to bump speed limits has waned. But clearly, the U.P. hasn't been awash in bloodshed from horrible wrecks as a result of the sections of highway that got the nod to 65.
If you've guessed this one's a bit personal, it is. After spending significant portions of my life criss-crossing the U.P. at 55 mph, that speed limit bump was welcome. Now finish the flippin' job already!
Quote from: JREwing78 on March 04, 2022, 01:50:04 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 03, 2022, 04:15:02 PM
60 isn't a common speed limit in Michigan ...
I can't think of a stretch of highway in Michigan that uses 60 mph...
If I am forgetting one mention it...
It is indeed quite rare outside of construction zones. There is a 60mph zone on (2-lane) US-2 east of Rapid River, posted recently enough that it doesn't show up on Google Street View. It's in an area that has fairly dense (for the rural U.P) mix of business and residential properties adjacent, as travelers are coming into a more urban area.
What confounds me is that there was enough of a concern that MDOT felt compelled to NOT post it for 65, but did feel compelled to bump it from the 55 mph it was set at previously. Other areas along the US-2 corridor east of Rapid River will wind down to 55 mph or 50 mph as appropriate for the more residential areas. But that one 60 mph zone stuck out at me, particularly considering far more remote areas of the U.P. *still* are posted for 55 mph.
In no sane, logical world of transportation does US-141 between Crystal Falls and Covington merit a *lower* speed limit than US-45, just like travel conditions don't merit M-117 having a lower speed limit (55 mph) than M-77 (65 mph). M-26 south of Houghton runs through miles and miles of nothing, and only merits a 55 mph limit.
If some wannabe U.P. politician ran on a platform of bumping the rest of the 2-lane highways up to 65 mph, that would probably drive a lot of Yoopers to the polling place. It seems after the Rick Snyder administration, the appetite from the legislature to bump speed limits has waned. But clearly, the U.P. hasn't been awash in bloodshed from horrible wrecks as a result of the sections of highway that got the nod to 65.
If you've guessed this one's a bit personal, it is. After spending significant portions of my life criss-crossing the U.P. at 55 mph, that speed limit bump was welcome. Now finish the flippin' job already!
There is a 60 mph zone on I-75 on both sides of the Mackinac Bridge. Heading NB and SB before the Mackinac bridge, it goes like this: 75 mph -> 60 mph -> 45 mph...
60 is the usual urban freeway limit in Oklahoma.
Quote from: JREwing78 on March 04, 2022, 01:50:04 AM
If some wannabe U.P. politician ran on a platform of bumping the rest of the 2-lane highways up to 65 mph, that would probably drive a lot of Yoopers to the polling place. It seems after the Rick Snyder administration, the appetite from the legislature to bump speed limits has waned. But clearly, the U.P. hasn't been awash in bloodshed from horrible wrecks as a result of the sections of highway that got the nod to 65.
If you've guessed this one's a bit personal, it is. After spending significant portions of my life criss-crossing the U.P. at 55 mph, that speed limit bump was welcome. Now finish the flippin' job already!
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Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on March 04, 2022, 01:59:35 AM
Quote from: JREwing78 on March 04, 2022, 01:50:04 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 03, 2022, 04:15:02 PM
60 isn't a common speed limit in Michigan ...
I can't think of a stretch of highway in Michigan that uses 60 mph...
If I am forgetting one mention it...
It is indeed quite rare outside of construction zones. There is a 60mph zone on (2-lane) US-2 east of Rapid River, posted recently enough that it doesn't show up on Google Street View. It's in an area that has fairly dense (for the rural U.P) mix of business and residential properties adjacent, as travelers are coming into a more urban area.
What confounds me is that there was enough of a concern that MDOT felt compelled to NOT post it for 65, but did feel compelled to bump it from the 55 mph it was set at previously. Other areas along the US-2 corridor east of Rapid River will wind down to 55 mph or 50 mph as appropriate for the more residential areas. But that one 60 mph zone stuck out at me, particularly considering far more remote areas of the U.P. *still* are posted for 55 mph.
In no sane, logical world of transportation does US-141 between Crystal Falls and Covington merit a *lower* speed limit than US-45, just like travel conditions don't merit M-117 having a lower speed limit (55 mph) than M-77 (65 mph). M-26 south of Houghton runs through miles and miles of nothing, and only merits a 55 mph limit.
If some wannabe U.P. politician ran on a platform of bumping the rest of the 2-lane highways up to 65 mph, that would probably drive a lot of Yoopers to the polling place. It seems after the Rick Snyder administration, the appetite from the legislature to bump speed limits has waned. But clearly, the U.P. hasn't been awash in bloodshed from horrible wrecks as a result of the sections of highway that got the nod to 65.
If you've guessed this one's a bit personal, it is. After spending significant portions of my life criss-crossing the U.P. at 55 mph, that speed limit bump was welcome. Now finish the flippin' job already!
There is a 60 mph zone on I-75 on both sides of the Mackinac Bridge. Heading NB and SB before the Mackinac bridge, it goes like this: 75 mph -> 60 mph -> 45 mph...
Which isn't common for Michigan.
Quote from: JREwing78 on March 04, 2022, 01:50:04 AM
If some wannabe U.P. politician ran on a platform of bumping the rest of the 2-lane highways up to 65 mph, that would probably drive a lot of Yoopers to the polling place. It seems after the Rick Snyder administration, the appetite from the legislature to bump speed limits has waned. But clearly, the U.P. hasn't been awash in bloodshed from horrible wrecks as a result of the sections of highway that got the nod to 65.
If you've guessed this one's a bit personal, it is. After spending significant portions of my life criss-crossing the U.P. at 55 mph, that speed limit bump was welcome. Now finish the flippin' job already!
I can't imagine many UP residents not wanting a higher speed limit. Those highways are almost empty between towns, especially over the winter. (I grew up in GB and spent parts of every summer in the UP.) I think there's even fewer people now that KI Sawyer and Kinross bases closed. I don't remember the speed limit in Michigan before everything went to 55 in the 70's. But I remember thinking it took forever riding with my family to Mackinac Island on vacation all three times we went. No idea if Mackinac Island is as charming now, but it was cool back in the 60s.
60 mph is the standard urban freeway speed limit in Washington and some of Oregon (excluding Portland, which has 50/55 sections due to the outdated road designs).
It's a pretty comfortable speed given how busy I-5 and other major freeways around Seattle are, though might be too fast for the downtown weaves.
NJ had one 60 mph zone - as a construction speed limit on the AC Expressway during a median project that required some minor shifting of lanes.
When NJ allowed 65 mph driving, it also included a provision where certain fines are doubled in 65 mph zones. For speeding, the fine is doubled if a motorist was going 10 mph or greater over the limit (75+ mph). But as a result, if there was a 60 mph zone, a motorist going 15 mph over the limit (75+ mph) would be fined the standard amount. It created an inequality in which the state simply doesn't use 60 mph zones.
Back to the first example: Since a work zone limit is a double fine starting at 1 mph over the limit, it's not affected like the above so 60 mph would be fine in work zones.
Quote from: skluth on March 04, 2022, 12:02:26 PM
Quote from: JREwing78 on March 04, 2022, 01:50:04 AM
If some wannabe U.P. politician ran on a platform of bumping the rest of the 2-lane highways up to 65 mph, that would probably drive a lot of Yoopers to the polling place. It seems after the Rick Snyder administration, the appetite from the legislature to bump speed limits has waned. But clearly, the U.P. hasn't been awash in bloodshed from horrible wrecks as a result of the sections of highway that got the nod to 65.
If you've guessed this one's a bit personal, it is. After spending significant portions of my life criss-crossing the U.P. at 55 mph, that speed limit bump was welcome. Now finish the flippin' job already!
I can't imagine many UP residents not wanting a higher speed limit. Those highways are almost empty between towns, especially over the winter. (I grew up in GB and spent parts of every summer in the UP.) I think there's even fewer people now that KI Sawyer and Kinross bases closed. I don't remember the speed limit in Michigan before everything went to 55 in the 70's. But I remember thinking it took forever riding with my family to Mackinac Island on vacation all three times we went. No idea if Mackinac Island is as charming now, but it was cool back in the 60s.
Mackinac Island is still pretty cool to visit. I haven't been there in awhile but I always have fun whenever I go.
Quote from: hobsini2 on March 03, 2022, 07:49:47 PM
Some of the Suburban Chicago Expressways have a posted 60. They first popped up on I-290 between I-90 and I-294. After that, ISTHA adopted the 60 MPH for I-88 & I-355 in DuPage County. The shocker is that I-90 from Arlington Hts Rd heading west and I-355 south of I-55 is a posted 70 despite being truly suburban tollways.
ISTHA has a couple more 60 mph sections:
* On I-90 from around where I-490 will connect to around the River Road Toll Plaza.
* On I-294 from I-94 to a little north of I-90.
* Seems like there was another 60 mph stetch on I-294 from somewhere south of I-55 to some point prior to I-80.
As for other 60 mph segments in Illinois:
* I-74 through Champaign-Urbana (https://goo.gl/maps/F1imSKKZR6FLVZwX6)
* Possibly I-255 near the Jefferson Barracks Bridge. It used to be specifically signed for westbound (https://goo.gl/maps/dEkBEczRjbCDxJE37). Eastbound kind of has an implied 60 mph limit since there are no other speed limit signs between the one east of the bridge and the state line.
Can confirm that no 60MPH exists in Vermont. As it is, only the Interstates and the freeway section of US 4 west of Rutland are allowed to be over 55.
60 mph is a funny one in Louisiana. You tend to see it mostly on interstates when speed limit drops from either 70 or 75 into an urban area.
The maximum on 2 lane highways or 4 lanes non divided is 55 mph. On 4 lane divided highways you don't tend to see 60 because speed usually jumps from 55 to 65.
Alexandria/Pineville recently increased US 71/US 165 to 60 mph. It's kind of a mixed expressway from the LA 1 interchange to US 167 in the Kingsville area. It is definitely warranted but just different to see on an urban arterial.
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This looks like a nice highway to implement 60 mph on. It's currently signed 55 but with all those rumble strips, it should be 60!
https://goo.gl/maps/qkSFxEXJS2xA8rTn8
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 06, 2022, 01:55:06 PM
This looks like a nice highway to implement 60 mph on. It's currently signed 55 but with all those rumble strips, it should be 60!
https://goo.gl/maps/qkSFxEXJS2xA8rTn8
Without even clicking, I figured this was going to be in NC, probably somewhere close to Greenville. Guess what? I was right.
More specifically, it is a 2-lane undivided highway in North Carolina. Given that very few states east of the Plains allow speed limits greater than 55 on 2-lane roads, and NC law currently bans >55 limits on roads that aren't interstates or controlled-access highways (https://www.ncleg.gov/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_20/GS_20-141.html)... don't expect to see any changes anytime soon.
^ Realistically, a good majority of the two lane roads should be 65 mph, though yes, technically by state law it will never exceed 55 mph.
Last summer I went up to Munising and of course you drive across the Mackinac Bridge and take US-2 west to M-77 but when I was on US-2 with the speed limit at 65 I had no problems going 75 mph in multiple stretches. There is very little traffic between the towns and US-2 is a good roadway to drive faster on. I think that the rural speed limit should be 65 mph on two lane roads.
Scrolling through here, I saw no one mentioned my home state of North Dakota. The only place I've seen a 60 mph zone in the state is on I-94 in the Bismarck-Mandan area. Only other urban interstate speed limits are in Fargo, being 55-65 mph on I-29 and I-94.
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Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on March 03, 2022, 11:36:41 AMIn Indiana, 60 is the standard speed limit for rural 4-lane non-freeways. Freeways, however, don't use a speed limit of 60 with one exception near Evansville. They go 70->65->55.
Which is still quite low for such in my opinion. Generally, I'd go 65 mph on such routes unless there are signalized intersections (which, on the NHS routes that are 4 lane expressways, shouldn't exist) or numerous entrances, although 70+ mph may be reasonable if it's in a remote area with mostly very low volume crossroads.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on March 04, 2022, 12:33:17 AMBelieve there are a couple in ME (I-195, and I-395 in Bangor come to mind).
In Maine, Title 29-A, §2073 (https://legislature.maine.gov/legis/statutes/29-A/title29-Asec2073.html), states that the MaineDOT commissioner, with State Police approval, can post a maximum limit of 60 MPH statewide, with the exception of Interstates and other freeways, where that limit is 75 MPH.
Quote from: Title 29-A, §2073: Authority to regulate speedsThe commissioner may not set maximums that exceed 60 miles per hour or, on the interstate system or other divided controlled-access highways, 75 miles per hour.
The Maine Turnpike Authority sets the speed limit on MeTA controlled roads, not MaineDOT as noted below:
Quote from: Title 29-A, §2073: Authority to regulate speedsThe commissioner may not set maximums for the Maine Turnpike.
Nevertheless, 60 MPH zones are present on:
- I-95 between Exit 44 in South Portland and Exit 53 in Falmouth, as well as between Exit 182 A-B and 187 in Bangor.
- I-195 (mentioned) between Exit 1 and just before ME Route 5.
- I-295 NB after the Gardiner Toll Plaza has a brief 60 MPH limit between there and when it merges with I-95. The SB ramps from I-95, however, are posted at 50 MPH until the toll plaza.
- I-395 (mentioned) has one between just after Exit 1 in Bangor and just before Exit 5 in Brewer.
- I-495 (unsigned, the Falmouth Spur) on most of its length.
- US Route 1, on the freeway segment between Brunswick and Bath.
- ME 701 (Scarborough Connector) on most of its length.
- Single lane closures (usually for short-term work zones) on the three lane stretches of the Maine Turnpike between MM2.2 and 44 are usually posted at 60 MPH.
South Carolina has 60 zones on some rural non freeway divided highways.
Missouri and Florida post 60 mph on rural two lane roads.
100 km/h (which is 62 mph) is the default speed limit for freeways in Québec. On the other hand, 60 km/h is a rare speed limit, or at least I see way less roads limited at 60 km/h compared to 50 or 70 km/h.
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 02, 2024, 08:07:33 AM100 km/h (which is 62 mph) is the default speed limit for freeways in Québec. On the other hand, 60 km/h is a rare speed limit, or at least I see way less roads limited at 60 km/h compared to 50 or 70 km/h.
You don't say...!
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Quote from: LilianaUwU on March 03, 2022, 08:57:45 PMIn Québec, 60 km/h is a fairly uncommon speed limit, as the limit will usually be 50 or 70 km/h. As for 60 mph (100 km/h), only freeways go that fast, and some urban freeways go even lower.
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 02, 2024, 09:22:58 AMQuote from: LilianaUwU on September 02, 2024, 08:07:33 AM100 km/h (which is 62 mph) is the default speed limit for freeways in Québec. On the other hand, 60 km/h is a rare speed limit, or at least I see way less roads limited at 60 km/h compared to 50 or 70 km/h.
You don't say...!
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Quote from: LilianaUwU on March 03, 2022, 08:57:45 PMIn Québec, 60 km/h is a fairly uncommon speed limit, as the limit will usually be 50 or 70 km/h. As for 60 mph (100 km/h), only freeways go that fast, and some urban freeways go even lower.
God dammit. I knew I had to have said it at one point.
Speaking of 100 km/h... here's this posted example on I-87 South in Champlain, NY after the Exit 43 SB on-ramp, (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9893021,-73.4572586,3a,20.3y,185.53h,87.8t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1siazTx0YP7q7e-S6ZRvG5yw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D2.1965859384285835%26panoid%3DiazTx0YP7q7e-S6ZRvG5yw%26yaw%3D185.5339376237973!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDgyOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D) not sure if this is still posted as of the writing of this post (GSV is from Nov 2021).
I think this used to be posted at 105 km/h (https://cdn.serc.carleton.edu/images/mathyouneed/roadsignboth.gif). It was co-signed with the 65 MPH limit, which 87 still is after US Customs (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0001165,-73.4547915,3a,48.9y,208.6h,91.86t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s_N6NDtxl7aeoFnkUvFZx1Q!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-1.8578623629167197%26panoid%3D_N6NDtxl7aeoFnkUvFZx1Q%26yaw%3D208.59556787260098!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDgyOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D). Not sure when these were replaced with 100 km/h signs.
Quote from: fwydriver405 on September 02, 2024, 10:36:57 AMSpeaking of 100 km/h... here's this posted example on I-87 South in Champlain, NY after the Exit 43 SB on-ramp, (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9893021,-73.4572586,3a,20.3y,185.53h,87.8t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1siazTx0YP7q7e-S6ZRvG5yw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D2.1965859384285835%26panoid%3DiazTx0YP7q7e-S6ZRvG5yw%26yaw%3D185.5339376237973!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDgyOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D) not sure if this is still posted as of the writing of this post (GSV is from Nov 2021).
I think this used to be posted at 105 km/h (https://cdn.serc.carleton.edu/images/mathyouneed/roadsignboth.gif). It was co-signed with the 65 MPH limit, which 87 still is after US Customs (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0001165,-73.4547915,3a,48.9y,208.6h,91.86t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s_N6NDtxl7aeoFnkUvFZx1Q!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-1.8578623629167197%26panoid%3D_N6NDtxl7aeoFnkUvFZx1Q%26yaw%3D208.59556787260098!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDgyOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D). Not sure when these were replaced with 100 km/h signs.
Nice of us to let Canada post a pair of their highway signs there
Quote from: epzik8 on September 02, 2024, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: fwydriver405 on September 02, 2024, 10:36:57 AMSpeaking of 100 km/h... here's this posted example on I-87 South in Champlain, NY after the Exit 43 SB on-ramp, (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9893021,-73.4572586,3a,20.3y,185.53h,87.8t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1siazTx0YP7q7e-S6ZRvG5yw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D2.1965859384285835%26panoid%3DiazTx0YP7q7e-S6ZRvG5yw%26yaw%3D185.5339376237973!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDgyOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D) not sure if this is still posted as of the writing of this post (GSV is from Nov 2021).
I think this used to be posted at 105 km/h (https://cdn.serc.carleton.edu/images/mathyouneed/roadsignboth.gif). It was co-signed with the 65 MPH limit, which 87 still is after US Customs (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0001165,-73.4547915,3a,48.9y,208.6h,91.86t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s_N6NDtxl7aeoFnkUvFZx1Q!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-1.8578623629167197%26panoid%3D_N6NDtxl7aeoFnkUvFZx1Q%26yaw%3D208.59556787260098!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDgyOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D). Not sure when these were replaced with 100 km/h signs.
Nice of us to let Canada post a pair of their highway signs there
Canadian speed limit signs say "maximum" instead and don't have that circle. Those signs are 2003 MUTCD metric speed limit signs.
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 02, 2024, 10:07:42 AMQuote from: 1995hoo on September 02, 2024, 09:22:58 AMQuote from: LilianaUwU on September 02, 2024, 08:07:33 AM100 km/h (which is 62 mph) is the default speed limit for freeways in Québec. On the other hand, 60 km/h is a rare speed limit, or at least I see way less roads limited at 60 km/h compared to 50 or 70 km/h.
You don't say...!
:bigass:
Quote from: LilianaUwU on March 03, 2022, 08:57:45 PMIn Québec, 60 km/h is a fairly uncommon speed limit, as the limit will usually be 50 or 70 km/h. As for 60 mph (100 km/h), only freeways go that fast, and some urban freeways go even lower.
God dammit. I knew I had to have said it at one point.
Heh, I'm certain I've done the same thing at some point in some other thread. Very easy to do that when a thread gets bumped after several years of inactivity (as here).
That's why I used the :bigass: smiley.
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 03, 2022, 11:44:31 AM60 is a very common speed limit in Missouri, at least in the St Louis area, where pretty much all the freeways through the suburbs use it.
In Ohio, they're mostly on rural 4 lanes in the southern part of the state, with OH 32 as a prime example using it as a speed limit.
In Toledo, I-280 is 60 mph on the northern end, over the Glass City Skyway & coming into I-75.
Relatively shortly after the NMSL was repealed, and the speed limits in my home state of NJ went up to 65, I traveled to Seattle (by air) and the speed limits there seemed to all be 60 (I don't know if I'm misremembering, but I am pretty sure that was as high as it went). That was the first and only 60 speed limit I encountered for quite a while. I think more recently I saw them in Ohio and/or Indiana.
Ah yes, the elusive 60 MPH speed limit.
In my experience, most of California's state highway examples are in Inyo and Mono Counties, where 60 is used within Death Valley and on a handful of other state routes. District 9 is far more willing to post speed limits above 55 than other Caltrans districts. But yeah, random local roads in Fresno County also come to mind.
Nevada, 60 is rare, but again, not unheard of. 55 and 65 are far more common, with 65-70 being the standard rural limit. West shore of Walker Lake, part of US 95A, and US 50 west of Fallon immediately come to mind as locations posted at 60. Of note is that limits of 60+ have a 5-10 MPH "slap on the wrist" tolerance, where within that threshold is a token fine and no points. No such official tolerance exists for limits of 55 and below, which may explain some of the reluctance to post 60. With the exception of CC 215, I have never seen a county or local road posted at above 55 MPH in Nevada, so the speed limit map covers just about everything with a 60+ limit apart from freeways (which are all 65+).
I'm sure this is one of the only 60mph speed limits in the entire state of Michigan
Surprised they didn't just do 55mph for this very small community of Wolf Lake, Michigan on M-37 (down from 65mph)
Still plenty of roads to be increased to 65mph, will probably never happen again :(
(https://i.imgur.com/fD4PMae.png)
ALDOT occasionally posts a speed limit of 60 I've noticed, usually in a spot where 65 or 70 wouldn't work (such as AL 20 between I-65 and US 31 or the east end of I-565).
I see 60 mph in construction zones where the SL is normally 70.
Typically it's in places where they've shifted and narrowed the lanes in some manner such that concrete barriers separate traffic from the workers.
All the work zones during the 6 lane expansion on I-39/90, for example.
Quote from: MATraveler128 on March 03, 2022, 10:49:49 AMIn Massachusetts, MA 3 south of Boston has a 60 mph speed limit.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on March 04, 2022, 12:33:17 AMThe only one in MA is the aforementioned MA 3.
There is actually a second 60 MPH zone in Massachusetts on MA Route 24 northbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7428641,-71.1210224,3a,75y,10.82h,79.06t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1snxIr7YfSWFkHkqRDoD7GQQ!2e0!5s20240701T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDkxNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D) for a short stretch from a very short, left merge from Highland Ave and MA Route 79 ramps to just after the Exit 8 northbound on-ramp. It looks like this limit was put in place between 2018 and 2021, based on GSV history.