This came up in another thread, and I thought it might make for an interesting thread of its own. In Pittsford, NY, Tobey Rd and Stone Rd have a short overlap, but both roads are unnumbered. Do you know of any other examples where two named, but
unnumbered roads overlap with each other?
Quote from: webny99 on March 31, 2022, 12:32:42 PM
That reminds me of this intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/AX4kShrBDwiz4LkdA), where Tobey Rd makes a left turn and has a short overlap with Stone Rd. Not often you see two road names overlap when neither road is numbered.
I know this is a duplicate, but I can't find it. The other thread specifically wanted longer examples, though.
As I asked in the original thread: are they officially overlapped (i.e. both have legal definitions that include the same stretch), or is there just signage for both for the sake of continuity? I have a feeling the latter is way more common in these situations, meaning the supposed overlap officially has only one name.
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2022, 12:55:12 PM
As I asked in the original thread: are they officially overlapped (i.e. both have legal definitions that include the same stretch), or is there just signage for both for the sake of continuity? I have a feeling the latter is way more common in these situations, meaning the supposed overlap officially has only one name.
For this particular case, I'm not sure what it is officially nor how to find out.
However, based on the mast arm signage (which has no mention of Stone Rd in the direction of the overlap), I suspect it's officially known as only Tobey Rd.
Some earlier threads:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=23303.0
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=23863.0
Quote from: webny99 on March 31, 2022, 01:20:46 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2022, 12:55:12 PM
As I asked in the original thread: are they officially overlapped (i.e. both have legal definitions that include the same stretch), or is there just signage for both for the sake of continuity? I have a feeling the latter is way more common in these situations, meaning the supposed overlap officially has only one name.
For this particular case, I'm not sure what it is officially nor how to find out.
However, based on the mast arm signage (which has no mention of Stone Rd in the direction of the overlap), I suspect it's officially known as only Tobey Rd.
https://www.dot.ny.gov/highway-data-services/lhi-local-roads
Quote from: vdeane on March 31, 2022, 08:32:20 PM
Quote from: webny99 on March 31, 2022, 01:20:46 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2022, 12:55:12 PM
As I asked in the original thread: are they officially overlapped (i.e. both have legal definitions that include the same stretch), or is there just signage for both for the sake of continuity? I have a feeling the latter is way more common in these situations, meaning the supposed overlap officially has only one name.
For this particular case, I'm not sure what it is officially nor how to find out.
However, based on the mast arm signage (which has no mention of Stone Rd in the direction of the overlap), I suspect it's officially known as only Tobey Rd.
https://www.dot.ny.gov/highway-data-services/lhi-local-roads
Interesting resource, thanks. Found what was I looking for on pg 187 of the
Monroe County file (https://www.dot.ny.gov/divisions/engineering/technical-services/hds-respository/NYSDOT_2021_LHI_Local_Roads_and_Streets_Monroe_County.pdf). Surprisingly, the overlap is "officially" Stone Rd, but the corresponding 0.09 mile segment for Tobey Rd shows an blank start point and endpoint of NY 65, so we're no closer to an answer there.
Wikipedia offers a little additional insight -
unsigned CR 62 (Tobey Rd) is split in two (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_county_routes_in_Monroe_County,_New_York#Routes_51%E2%80%93100) and does
not include the overlap in the mileage. Google Maps, for their part, has CR 62 marked on the overlap, but I don't put much stock in that. The 0.05 mile segment of Tobey Rd in the local roads listing was also throwing me, but I think it might be
this (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0723773,-77.5304875,143m/data=!3m1!1e3) (which could be what's causing the blank start/endpoints if it's reading Tobey Rd = CR 62).
Quote from: webny99 on March 31, 2022, 10:26:52 PM
Quote from: vdeane on March 31, 2022, 08:32:20 PM
Quote from: webny99 on March 31, 2022, 01:20:46 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2022, 12:55:12 PM
As I asked in the original thread: are they officially overlapped (i.e. both have legal definitions that include the same stretch), or is there just signage for both for the sake of continuity? I have a feeling the latter is way more common in these situations, meaning the supposed overlap officially has only one name.
For this particular case, I'm not sure what it is officially nor how to find out.
However, based on the mast arm signage (which has no mention of Stone Rd in the direction of the overlap), I suspect it's officially known as only Tobey Rd.
https://www.dot.ny.gov/highway-data-services/lhi-local-roads
Interesting resource, thanks. Found what was I looking for on pg 187 of the Monroe County file (https://www.dot.ny.gov/divisions/engineering/technical-services/hds-respository/NYSDOT_2021_LHI_Local_Roads_and_Streets_Monroe_County.pdf). Surprisingly, the overlap is "officially" Stone Rd, but the corresponding 0.09 mile segment for Tobey Rd shows an blank start point and endpoint of NY 65, so we're no closer to an answer there.
Wikipedia offers a little additional insight - unsigned CR 62 (Tobey Rd) is split in two (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_county_routes_in_Monroe_County,_New_York#Routes_51%E2%80%93100) and does not include the overlap in the mileage. Google Maps, for their part, has CR 62 marked on the overlap, but I don't put much stock in that. The 0.05 mile segment of Tobey Rd in the local roads listing was also throwing me, but I think it might be this (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0723773,-77.5304875,143m/data=!3m1!1e3) (which could be what's causing the blank start/endpoints if it's reading Tobey Rd = CR 62).
Man I wish Maryland had these inventories in their highway location reference files.
In St. Louis Park, MN, Minnetonka Blvd and Lake St were overlapped between the eastern city limits and MN-100. Though it seems the Lake St. signs have been takrn down in more recent days, so the overlap may no longer exist.
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9485082,-93.3375467,3a,44.9y,298.29h,81.64t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1smvp-Azsrgrhozq6QPlTqvQ!2e0!5s20110701T000000!7i13312!8i6656
There's Round Swamp Road and Old Country Road between Plainview and West Hills, New York, but that has hidden route numbers in Nassau County.
There's also Marcus Avenue and Denton Avenue, which overlap as they cross Hillside Avenue (NY 25B). Both are unnumbered county routes, although the portion of Denton Avenue north of the overlap is a town road.