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Title: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: KCRoadFan on May 21, 2022, 12:25:51 AM
For me, this is post number 666, so of course, I will devote it to highways with that number!

I know, of course, that US 666 in Colorado and New Mexico was famously renumbered to US 491 a while back, because of sign theft, I believe. As for state highways with the "number of the beast", I know that Pennsylvania and Ohio have them - what other states might? In Virginia, "secondary" state highways are numbered 600 and above and are repeated from county to county - I'm sure that at least one county in that state has a VA SR 666. What about the 600-series county roads in New Jersey, or the 600-series band of state highways in Florida, which includes the Tampa area? Also, is there an FM 666 in Texas?

In my opinion, County Road D-32 in Michigan, near Pinckney in Livingston County just south of Howell, should be designated as M-666, as it is quite literally the "road to Hell" in that state - although I'm sure MDOT would have a huge headache on their hands with regards to stolen signs. How much of a problem is it for the states that already have a Highway 666 - or, for that matter, Mile Marker 666 on I-10 in Texas, between San Antonio and Houston? I'm interested to find out more.
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: SkyPesos on May 21, 2022, 12:32:00 AM
Looking at Wikipedia's list, seems like Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Texas have a state route numbered 666.
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: US 89 on May 21, 2022, 12:32:25 AM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on May 21, 2022, 12:25:51 AM
I know, of course, that US 666 in Colorado and New Mexico was famously renumbered to US 491 a while back, because of sign theft, I believe.

US 666 went through Utah too...  :poke:

And yes, it was sign theft. The three states literally couldn't keep the road signed and people were apparently getting lost. That combined with a high fatality rate on New Mexico's portion (dangerous 2-lane highway with a good amount of traffic and a lot of drunk driving incidents) meant conditions were ripe for a renumbering. NM was the main driver behind that effort.   

666 also used to go west from Gallup and down to Douglas AZ, but the extension of US 191 provided a great opportunity for Arizona to renumber their portion.
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on May 21, 2022, 03:08:41 AM
Virginia has a secondary state road 666 near Smithfield. Goes to the packing plants from the VA-10 bypass.
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: 7/8 on May 21, 2022, 09:20:04 AM
Ontario had a Secondary Highway 666 from 1974-1985, but it was renumbered to Highway 658 (info here (http://www.thekingshighway.ca/Highway666.htm)).
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 21, 2022, 09:27:01 AM
FL 666 is basically an unremarkable causeway highway in the Tampa Bay Area.  There is nothing really exciting about it and I speculate the reassurance shields aren't stolen since FDOT usually mounts them with 6 or 8 bolts. 
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: Mapmikey on May 21, 2022, 09:42:28 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on May 21, 2022, 03:08:41 AM
Virginia has a secondary state road 666 near Smithfield. Goes to the packing plants from the VA-10 bypass.

In theory Virginia has 94 secondary route 666s.

One county signs it differently, though.  This is in Frederick County and has been signed like this at least 12 years:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Fsix-six-six%2520sign.jpg&hash=39881c0027932ea7ca42ebe838e97b60e77c17c3)
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 21, 2022, 09:44:54 AM
NJ had a few County Route 666's. As one may imagine, signage is hard to find, but at least one sign was captured by GSV.  https://maps.app.goo.gl/D4H7oE1tSE5NwpEc6
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on May 21, 2022, 09:48:17 AM
Closest Indiana has is 662. With 366, 466 and 566 all never having been used, it's a safe bet that Indiana will never have a 666.
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on May 21, 2022, 01:03:27 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 21, 2022, 09:42:28 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on May 21, 2022, 03:08:41 AM
Virginia has a secondary state road 666 near Smithfield. Goes to the packing plants from the VA-10 bypass.

In theory Virginia has 94 secondary route 666s.

One county signs it differently, though.  This is in Frederick County and has been signed like this at least 12 years:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Fsix-six-six%2520sign.jpg&hash=39881c0027932ea7ca42ebe838e97b60e77c17c3)

I figured there would be more than one. It's been a long time since I've been there, and that's the only one that I've personally seen. I do like that weird way of signing it, though.
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: Rothman on May 21, 2022, 03:23:06 PM
I am surprised that county's solution didn't result in more thefts.
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: Mr. Matté on May 21, 2022, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 21, 2022, 03:23:06 PM
I am surprised that county's solution didn't result in more thefts.

The gun club is right there, though.
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 21, 2022, 08:59:13 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on May 21, 2022, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 21, 2022, 03:23:06 PM
I am surprised that county's solution didn't result in more thefts.

The gun club is right there, though.

Does that actually ever really intimidate supposedly harden criminals?
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: epzik8 on May 21, 2022, 09:32:38 PM
PA 666 will get me to Forest County, the first on my bucket list of unvisited counties.
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on May 21, 2022, 09:35:51 PM
St. Louis County, MN has a County Road 666. Itasca County might have a county or township 666 as well, along with Lake County.
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: dlsterner on May 21, 2022, 10:55:41 PM
Thinking outside the box, I wondered about states that might have a route 999 - and have a shield that is symmetric top to bottom that could be passed off to the uninitiated as a SR 666.

No such luck.  Only PA and TX have a 999, and their shields are not invertible.

Hmm ... maybe we could try this with SR 69 shields ... oh wait ... never mind.
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: Big John on May 21, 2022, 11:06:38 PM
^^Or 616, which some believe is the actual Devil's number?
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: formulanone on May 22, 2022, 10:31:00 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 21, 2022, 09:27:01 AM
...I speculate the reassurance shields aren’t stolen since FDOT usually mounts them with 6 or 8 bolts. 

You'd think that, but it wasn't the case last year, and there wasn't even a post in the opposite direction.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51631192487_9de6dc5fe9_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mEtmHV)

The ones on US 19 Alternate (https://flic.kr/p/2mEBXcS) and FL 699 (https://flic.kr/p/2ia9ny3) were standing, though. A recent error was this "FL 669" sign, presumably for FL 699:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51632019046_a9b766e898_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mExAqW)
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: Mapmikey on May 22, 2022, 10:44:38 AM
Quote from: dlsterner on May 21, 2022, 10:55:41 PM
Thinking outside the box, I wondered about states that might have a route 999 - and have a shield that is symmetric top to bottom that could be passed off to the uninitiated as a SR 666.

No such luck.  Only PA and TX have a 999, and their shields are not invertible.

Hmm ... maybe we could try this with SR 69 shields ... oh wait ... never mind.

Virginia has you covered:

https://goo.gl/maps/dR5feuNcSz3BD3Ff7

or if you prefer a circle shield:

https://goo.gl/maps/7D3cmCbzPdPLbquu6
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 22, 2022, 11:11:30 AM
Quote from: formulanone on May 22, 2022, 10:31:00 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 21, 2022, 09:27:01 AM
...I speculate the reassurance shields aren't stolen since FDOT usually mounts them with 6 or 8 bolts. 

You'd think that, but it wasn't the case last year, and there wasn't even a post in the opposite direction.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51631192487_9de6dc5fe9_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mEtmHV)

The ones on US 19 Alternate (https://flic.kr/p/2mEBXcS) and FL 699 (https://flic.kr/p/2ia9ny3) were standing, though. A recent error was this "FL 669" sign, presumably for FL 699:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51632019046_a9b766e898_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mExAqW)

That would have taken a little bit time to nab that FL 666 shield even with a sawzall given the extra bolts.  I wonder when that happened because it was still there when I passed through in 2019. 
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: thenetwork on May 22, 2022, 01:25:01 PM
Quote from: US 89 on May 21, 2022, 12:32:25 AM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on May 21, 2022, 12:25:51 AM
I know, of course, that US 666 in Colorado and New Mexico was famously renumbered to US 491 a while back, because of sign theft, I believe.

US 666 went through Utah too...  :poke:

And yes, it was sign theft. The three states literally couldn't keep the road signed and people were apparently getting lost. That combined with a high fatality rate on New Mexico's portion (dangerous 2-lane highway with a good amount of traffic and a lot of drunk driving incidents) meant conditions were ripe for a renumbering. NM was the main driver behind that effort.   

666 also used to go west from Gallup and down to Douglas AZ, but the extension of US 191 provided a great opportunity for Arizona to renumber their portion.

And I believe the last traces of US-666 were around Monticello, UT when UDOT had unisigns noting the conversion (NEW US-491 IS THE FORMER US-666).  Those signs were finally removed around 2007-08.
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: Jim on May 22, 2022, 02:17:30 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 22, 2022, 01:25:01 PM
And I believe the last traces of US-666 were around Monticello, UT when UDOT had unisigns noting the conversion (NEW US-491 IS THE FORMER US-666).  Those signs were finally removed around 2007-08.

For those who haven't seen the ones referred to above, this was in Monticello on September 27, 2003.

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20030927/us666us491us191.jpg)
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: hbelkins on May 22, 2022, 07:31:42 PM
I can personally remember seeing at least two Virginia secondary 666 routes -- one near Hillsville and one near Bedford.

Kentucky has a KY 666, which is spottily signed and, to my knowledge, isn't a frequent subject of sign theft. Much of it is a gravel route along the Ohio River in Union County. I have never been on the route myself. You can find evidence of the signage on the Kentucky photolog route viewer on the KYTC maps page.
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: Dirt Roads on May 22, 2022, 08:25:14 PM
Christiansburg, Virginia has SR-666, which is Mud Pike Road that runs parallel to I-81.  If I recall correctly, it is not signed at either end but only between the Christianburg line and Fire Tower Road. 
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: Dirt Roads on May 22, 2022, 08:29:15 PM
Gosh, there's a whole list of them for Virginia secondary routes (90 of the 132 counties, if I counted correctly):  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_State_Route_666  Some of these have multiple segments that are not continuous. 
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: US 89 on May 22, 2022, 10:51:09 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 22, 2022, 01:25:01 PM
Quote from: US 89 on May 21, 2022, 12:32:25 AM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on May 21, 2022, 12:25:51 AM
I know, of course, that US 666 in Colorado and New Mexico was famously renumbered to US 491 a while back, because of sign theft, I believe.

US 666 went through Utah too...  :poke:

And yes, it was sign theft. The three states literally couldn't keep the road signed and people were apparently getting lost. That combined with a high fatality rate on New Mexico's portion (dangerous 2-lane highway with a good amount of traffic and a lot of drunk driving incidents) meant conditions were ripe for a renumbering. NM was the main driver behind that effort.   

666 also used to go west from Gallup and down to Douglas AZ, but the extension of US 191 provided a great opportunity for Arizona to renumber their portion.

And I believe the last traces of US-666 were around Monticello, UT when UDOT had unisigns noting the conversion (NEW US-491 IS THE FORMER US-666).  Those signs were finally removed around 2007-08.

There is a “491, Former 666” reassurance marker still standing in Gallup, northbound shortly after the route begins at I-40.
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on May 24, 2022, 05:48:12 PM
Quote from: US 89 on May 22, 2022, 10:51:09 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 22, 2022, 01:25:01 PM
Quote from: US 89 on May 21, 2022, 12:32:25 AM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on May 21, 2022, 12:25:51 AM
I know, of course, that US 666 in Colorado and New Mexico was famously renumbered to US 491 a while back, because of sign theft, I believe.

US 666 went through Utah too...  :poke:

And yes, it was sign theft. The three states literally couldn't keep the road signed and people were apparently getting lost. That combined with a high fatality rate on New Mexico's portion (dangerous 2-lane highway with a good amount of traffic and a lot of drunk driving incidents) meant conditions were ripe for a renumbering. NM was the main driver behind that effort.   

666 also used to go west from Gallup and down to Douglas AZ, but the extension of US 191 provided a great opportunity for Arizona to renumber their portion.

And I believe the last traces of US-666 were around Monticello, UT when UDOT had unisigns noting the conversion (NEW US-491 IS THE FORMER US-666).  Those signs were finally removed around 2007-08.

There is a "491, Former 666"  reassurance marker still standing in Gallup, northbound shortly after the route begins at I-40.

Bang! (https://goo.gl/maps/4HqTNTRtQZAQNPjY6)
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 24, 2022, 05:51:36 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 24, 2022, 05:48:12 PM
Quote from: US 89 on May 22, 2022, 10:51:09 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 22, 2022, 01:25:01 PM
Quote from: US 89 on May 21, 2022, 12:32:25 AM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on May 21, 2022, 12:25:51 AM
I know, of course, that US 666 in Colorado and New Mexico was famously renumbered to US 491 a while back, because of sign theft, I believe.

US 666 went through Utah too...  :poke:

And yes, it was sign theft. The three states literally couldn't keep the road signed and people were apparently getting lost. That combined with a high fatality rate on New Mexico's portion (dangerous 2-lane highway with a good amount of traffic and a lot of drunk driving incidents) meant conditions were ripe for a renumbering. NM was the main driver behind that effort.   

666 also used to go west from Gallup and down to Douglas AZ, but the extension of US 191 provided a great opportunity for Arizona to renumber their portion.

And I believe the last traces of US-666 were around Monticello, UT when UDOT had unisigns noting the conversion (NEW US-491 IS THE FORMER US-666).  Those signs were finally removed around 2007-08.

There is a "491, Former 666"  reassurance marker still standing in Gallup, northbound shortly after the route begins at I-40.

Bang! (https://goo.gl/maps/4HqTNTRtQZAQNPjY6)

So basically watch eBay if you are sign collector?
Title: Re: Highways numbered 666 - which states have them?
Post by: OCGuy81 on May 28, 2022, 03:21:45 PM
Might be a tangent, but are there states that won't issue 666 on license plates? I know Oregon does as one of my cars has plates starting with 666