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Title: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: KCRoadFan on July 03, 2022, 09:36:45 PM
I was just thinking about how after the four-lane stretch of US 14 in Minnesota was completed between Mankato and Owatonna, Waseca County designated the former two-lane alignment, through Waseca and Janesville, as County 14.

That made me wonder: throughout the country, where might there be other county roads that were numbered such because they used to be state or US highways of the same number, or at least a similar one?

(I'm not sure if I already created a thread like this one a while back, but if I have, then please go ahead and merge it.)
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 03, 2022, 09:38:50 PM
San Bernardino County Route 66 was US 66.  Mohave County Route 91 was once US 91.  FWIW Florida is full of a shit ton of these since the County Roads generally retain State Road numbers.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: Mapmikey on July 03, 2022, 09:40:48 PM
The majority of old US 21 from Charleston WV to nearly Parkersburg is CR 21.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: oscar on July 03, 2022, 09:43:31 PM
County S80 in Imperial County CA used to be part of US 80.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: Evan_Th on July 03, 2022, 09:50:05 PM
When US 61 got truncated to central Minnesota, its old route south of Duluth usually became CR 61.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: Molandfreak on July 03, 2022, 10:00:52 PM
Quote from: Evan_Th on July 03, 2022, 09:50:05 PM
When US 61 got truncated to central Minnesota, its old route south of Duluth usually became CR 61.
The counties took over most of the old route (except MN 361) before it was truncated.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: Voyager75 on July 03, 2022, 10:03:57 PM
In Alabama, ALDOT and Baldwin County did a mileage swap. CR-112 in Northern Baldwin County used to be AL-112 before ALDOT changed the southern half of CR-27 below I-10 to become AL-181. In 10 years AL-181 will probably be another artery for beach traffic once it's fully 4 laned to US-98.

Southeast of Birmingham there's the old 2 lane sections of US-280 which are numbered CR-280 in the Chelsea/Westover area.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: SkyPesos on July 03, 2022, 11:25:55 PM
A few segments of the road parallel to I-75 between Dayton and Toledo is called County Route 25A, which is a nod to former US 25 on the corridor.

Similar case for County Route 21 parallel to I-77 for former US 21.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: webny99 on July 04, 2022, 12:01:12 AM
A NY example: CR 57 in Onandaga and Oswego counties used to be NY 57. (It's technically CR 91 in Onandaga County, but signed as CR 57.)
It also has the distinction of being the only county route signed from a NY Thruway exit (https://goo.gl/maps/dZocZscYw59ZkD9X8), an honor likely owing at least in part to its former state route status.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: amroad17 on July 04, 2022, 12:04:02 AM
The same goes for County 33A as a nod to US 33 which was relocated on the expressway around Wapakoneta, OH to St. Mary's, OH.

In New York, the section of former NY 31B in Cayuga County from Weedsport to 2.5 miles west of Elbridge retains the number, although unsigned.  Onondaga County assigned CR 99 to the small 0.4 mile section from NY 5 to the Cayuga/Onondaga line.

Just had to delete what I wrote about CR 57 as webny99 posted while I was typing my response.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: US 89 on July 04, 2022, 12:31:40 AM
Washington CR 91 in Utah used to be US 91.

This is a state that doesn't really have much in the way of numbered county routes, so clearly the number is pretty significant locally.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: Rothman on July 04, 2022, 09:59:39 AM


Quote from: webny99 on July 04, 2022, 12:01:12 AM
A NY example: CR 57 in Onandaga and Oswego counties used to be NY 57. (It's technically CR 91 in Onandaga County, but signed as CR 57.)
It also has the distinction of being the only county route signed from a NY Thruway exit (https://goo.gl/maps/dZocZscYw59ZkD9X8), an honor likely owing at least in part to its former state route status.

Hehehehehehe...It is trickier than this.

Part of what is signed as County Route 57 is actually State Reference Route 931G -- From 370 to Tulip Street.  So, part of it is indeed owned by the State rather than Onondaga County.

Ownership stuff like this is messy when NYSDOT has upcoming projects on the Parkway, 931G and 370 (west of Heid's) over the upcoming years.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on July 04, 2022, 11:01:11 AM
I don't believe there are any county roads in New England.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: hotdogPi on July 04, 2022, 11:04:44 AM
Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on July 04, 2022, 11:01:11 AM
I don't believe there are any county roads in New England.

This is correct, except for the four municipalities literally named "New England" that are nowhere near the Northeast, and one since-removed shield error actually in New England (should be a MA state route):
(https://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/ma_27/ncr.jpg)

photo from alpsroads
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: IowaTraveler on July 04, 2022, 11:38:03 AM
County road 105 in north central Iowa used to be IA 105. Annoyingly, it's currently the only signed county road in Iowa that doesn't follow the alphanumeric naming system.

In addition, county road X99 in Des Moines and Louisa Counties used to be IA 99. It was initially signed as county road 99 after IA 99 was decommissioned, and there are still a few shields and street signs referring to it as such.

There are a few other former state highways in Des Moines and Louisa Counties that kept their numbers after decommissioning, but the rest have either been renumbered to fit the naming system or remain unsigned.

There's also Dallas County road F90, which was formerly IA 90.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on July 04, 2022, 11:52:04 AM
Quote from: Molandfreak on July 03, 2022, 10:00:52 PM
Quote from: Evan_Th on July 03, 2022, 09:50:05 PM
When US 61 got truncated to central Minnesota, its old route south of Duluth usually became CR 61.
The counties took over most of the old route (except MN 361) before it was truncated.

Anoka/Ramsey CSAH 10
Lake/St. Louis CSAH 61 (the expressway was also built while still US 61)
Clay CSAH 52
Hennepin CSAH 112 is old US 12 through Orono and Long Lake
most of old US 169 in Shakopee is now CSAH 69 this might just be a coincidence
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: jaehak on July 04, 2022, 12:13:55 PM
This is a swing, but Douglas County (Kansas) 442 used to be K10. 4+4+2=10
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: nexus73 on July 04, 2022, 02:23:01 PM
The former US 99 from Drain OR south to I-5 is now county 99. 
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: Bickendan on July 04, 2022, 06:40:54 PM
Still OR 99, but not state maintained, and signed as such from nb I-5. It is cosigned as a Douglas County route, but I don't remember its number, as the shields are small.
Along the route itself through Yoncalla, you are hard pressed to find shields for 99.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on July 04, 2022, 07:04:46 PM
Indiana has several. Clark County signed IN 160, 311 and 403 as County Highways of the same number after INDOT decommissioned them.

The decommissioned segment of IN 144 (between two still-existing segments) is known as CR 144.

The decommissioned IN 122 is known as Old Indiana 122.

There are also many old alignments of routes still known as Old XX.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: thenetwork on July 04, 2022, 07:10:27 PM
Most of the old US-25 alignment in Ohio that is not claimed by any other state route is known in multiple counties as County Road 25-A and is signed as such the many times the old alignment crosses I-75.

On the other side of the state, much of the decommissioned US‐21 alignment is known across multiple counties as Old 21.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: pianocello on July 04, 2022, 08:15:19 PM
Quote from: IowaTraveler on July 04, 2022, 11:38:03 AM
County road 105 in north central Iowa used to be IA 105. Annoyingly, it's currently the only signed county road in Iowa that doesn't follow the alphanumeric naming system.

In addition, county road X99 in Des Moines and Louisa Counties used to be IA 99. It was initially signed as county road 99 after IA 99 was decommissioned, and there are still a few shields and street signs referring to it as such.

There are a few other former state highways in Des Moines and Louisa Counties that kept their numbers after decommissioning, but the rest have either been renumbered to fit the naming system or remain unsigned.

There's also Dallas County road F90, which was formerly IA 90.

Other Iowa examples are County Road D20 in the Fort Dodge area and H34 around Red Oak. Both are former routes of the nearby US Routes.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: Dirt Roads on July 04, 2022, 08:37:10 PM
Another one from West Virginia:  After the old WV-73 was decommissioned in Monongalia and Marion counties (being mostly parallel to I-79 and what's now I-68), parts of the road got renumbered as CR-73 and CR-73/73.

Also, the original Alternate US-22 in Weirton was renumbered as WV-507 in 1977.  That was downgraded a few years after, and is now posted as LSR-507.  (The LSR routes get a full-sized circle shield posted).
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: ibagli on July 04, 2022, 09:53:10 PM
The former northern portion of OH 668 in Licking County is still County Road 668. Until about a decade ago, the signs on OH 16 just called it County Road 668 rather than using its names (Brownsville Road to the south and Licking Valley Road to north), which was unusual in a county where county road numbers aren't very prominent.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: JayhawkCO on July 04, 2022, 10:34:27 PM
Jefferson County 73 used to be CO73.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: US 89 on July 04, 2022, 11:22:20 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on July 04, 2022, 10:34:27 PM
Jefferson County 73 used to be CO73.

Is that true of Jefferson CR 93 as well? I've never thought about that before, but it would make sense as it's pretty much aligned with existing SH 93 north of Golden.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: pderocco on July 05, 2022, 03:21:34 AM
According to cahighways.org, California 78 was originally signed as CR-S78 in Imperial Co from Brawley to almost to Blythe before the paved state highway route was constructed around 1970. That's sort of the opposite situation.

There are also a couple of signed county routes in California that are extensions of state highways with the same number, including CA-132 to CR-J132, and CA-59 to CR-J59.

California assigns its numbered county routes more or less starting with 1 in each zone (where each zone uses a different letter prefix), so they have to break the rules in order to use a county route number to commemorate a state or US route. They did this with US-66 and US-80, as others have noted.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: theroadwayone on July 05, 2022, 04:41:30 AM
There's also a large number of county routes north of Sacramento that are CR 99 or CR 99W.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: DandyDan on July 05, 2022, 06:10:59 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on July 04, 2022, 11:52:04 AM
Quote from: Molandfreak on July 03, 2022, 10:00:52 PM
Quote from: Evan_Th on July 03, 2022, 09:50:05 PM
When US 61 got truncated to central Minnesota, its old route south of Duluth usually became CR 61.
The counties took over most of the old route (except MN 361) before it was truncated.

Anoka/Ramsey CSAH 10
Lake/St. Louis CSAH 61 (the expressway was also built while still US 61)
Clay CSAH 52
Hennepin CSAH 112 is old US 12 through Orono and Long Lake
most of old US 169 in Shakopee is now CSAH 69 this might just be a coincidence
Somehow, you failed to mention how much of old MN 101 is now Hennepin County 101. I believe former MN 152 is now Hennepin County 152.

Dakota County 56 used to be MN 56.

OTOH, it's probably not that well known that old US 16 in Faribault County is now Faribault County 16
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: catch22 on July 05, 2022, 07:25:40 AM
Otsego County, Michigan - the former US-27 is now Old 27, complete with county road shields.

https://goo.gl/maps/bPHRUZQ1xswxXq6RA
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: formulanone on July 05, 2022, 08:39:13 AM
Others in Alabama include 138 (http://www.ajfroggie.com/roadpics/al-ends/old138.htm) and 106 (which changes from SR 106 at a county line).

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 03, 2022, 09:38:50 PM
Florida is full of a shit ton of these since the County Roads generally retain State Road numbers.

I tried counting them one day, and I found over 300 of them. This is not a definitive number, since some alternates and post-1977 county routes may have been numbered to "fit the grid". Throw in an additional clean-up/renumbering scheme in 1983, and things get a little tough to track.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: JayhawkCO on July 05, 2022, 10:09:16 AM
Quote from: US 89 on July 04, 2022, 11:22:20 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on July 04, 2022, 10:34:27 PM
Jefferson County 73 used to be CO73.

Is that true of Jefferson CR 93 as well? I've never thought about that before, but it would make sense as it's pretty much aligned with existing SH 93 north of Golden.

Yep. According to the now somewhat defunct Colorado Highways site:
Quote
History:
SH 93 is an original 1920s state highway, but at first it went from Morrison north along the hogback road to Golden. It was paved by 1939, and that same year it was extended north to Marshall. By 1954 it went only from Marshall to Boulder, and wasn't paved. By 1955 SH 93 was extended south to SH 72, and was paved. It remained that way until 1984, when it was extended south to Golden, via Washington Street, to SH 58. The west Golden bypass, making SH 93 hook up with the US 6/SH 58 intersection, was opened about 1992.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: bulldog1979 on July 05, 2022, 02:34:49 PM
Quote from: catch22 on July 05, 2022, 07:25:40 AM
Otsego County, Michigan - the former US-27 is now Old 27, complete with county road shields.

https://goo.gl/maps/bPHRUZQ1xswxXq6RA


There are a few more in Michigan that I can name off the top of my head. Former M-186 in Delta County is now CR 186. Former M-135 in Luce County is CR 135 (and H-33), and former M-98 is listed as CR 98 and CR 498. (Of the two, I think CR 498 is more correct as the county roads in several counties follow a common numbering scheme.) Former M-76 is also named Old 76.

In terms of the reverse, M-183 was CR 483, and the continuation south of Fayette State Park still has that number, and M-553 was CR 553 and inherited the number unchanged.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: JayhawkCO on July 05, 2022, 02:41:21 PM
Looks like there are some more in CO I didn't think of off-hand:
Ouray CR23 used to be CO23
San Juan CR110 used to be CO110
Routt CR129 used to be CO129 (decommissioned somewhere around 1953)
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: Bitmapped on July 05, 2022, 03:26:34 PM
Across much of northern Ohio, US 30's original two-lane alignment is now CR 30A or CR 330.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on July 05, 2022, 05:57:16 PM
Quote from: DandyDan on July 05, 2022, 06:10:59 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on July 04, 2022, 11:52:04 AM
Quote from: Molandfreak on July 03, 2022, 10:00:52 PM
Quote from: Evan_Th on July 03, 2022, 09:50:05 PM
When US 61 got truncated to central Minnesota, its old route south of Duluth usually became CR 61.
The counties took over most of the old route (except MN 361) before it was truncated.

Anoka/Ramsey CSAH 10
Lake/St. Louis CSAH 61 (the expressway was also built while still US 61)
Clay CSAH 52
Hennepin CSAH 112 is old US 12 through Orono and Long Lake
most of old US 169 in Shakopee is now CSAH 69 this might just be a coincidence
Somehow, you failed to mention how much of old MN 101 is now Hennepin County 101. I believe former MN 152 is now Hennepin County 152.

Dakota County 56 used to be MN 56.

OTOH, it's probably not that well known that old US 16 in Faribault County is now Faribault County 16

In the beginning I thought the thread was only about US routes. A couple more:

Fillmore CSAH 44 is the former fairly short-lived extension of MN 44 from US 52 to US 63
Houston CSAH 289
Dakota CSAH 50 from I-35 to MN 3
Ramsey CSAH 96 from I-35W to US 61 (the remainder of MN 96 east of 61 will be dead soon too)
Hennepin CSAH 88 (this one is a double feature: US 8 and then MN 88)
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: cockroachking on July 06, 2022, 11:36:12 AM
Some more from NY:
Greene CR-23B (Old alignment of NY-23) (Part is still NY-911V)
Steuben CR-333 (Old NY-333)
Chautauqua CR-380 (Old NY-380)
Delaware CR-17 (Old alignment of NY-17)
Sullivan CR-171 to 179 (Old alignments of NY-17)
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: Dirt Roads on July 06, 2022, 01:06:04 PM
In West Virginia, the "fractional" system is also used to reflect the former status of roads still maintained by WVDOH after the main road has been straightened or relocated.  My home county has a great example after the straightening of US-60 in the 1950s, all numbered as "fractionals" from 60/11 to 60/20.  All of these are wiggly parallel to the main road (listed east to west).

CR-60/11 (Courtwright Road)
CR-60/12 (Mynes Road/Obadiah Lane) north of US-60
CR-60/12 (Denali Drive) south of US-60, not quite connected to the other part
CR-60/13 (Hodges Road)
CR-60/14 (Appollo Lane)
CR-60/15 (Paul Road)
CR-60/16 (Stricklin Road)
CR-60/17 (part of a private driveway)
CR-60/18 (Black Jack Drive, includes another private driveway)
CR-60/19 (Stewart Road)
CR-60/20 (Henson Road, not shown on WVDOH maps)

Most of these sections of Old US-60 connect to branch roads that have still not been reconnected to US-60.  The "fractional" series below 60/11 and above 60/20 are traditional branch routes, some of which never connected to their parent (US-60 or Old US-60).  There are lots of similar examples in other parts of West Virginia.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: KCRoadFan on July 06, 2022, 02:23:24 PM
I know that in Minnesota, County 45 runs parallel to I-35, beginning just north of Albert Lea and continuing north through Clarks Grove, Geneva, Owatonna, and Medford before meeting MN 60 and MN 3 in Faribault. I'm guessing that County 45 was once US 65 before that highway was truncated at Albert Lea - am I right in that regard? (If that's true, I wonder why they changed the first digit of the road number instead of just calling it County 65...)
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: GenExpwy on July 07, 2022, 07:39:13 AM
Quote from: cockroachking on July 06, 2022, 11:36:12 AM
Some more from NY:
Greene CR-23B (Old alignment of NY-23) (Part is still NY-911V)
Steuben CR-333 (Old NY-333)
Chautauqua CR-380 (Old NY-380)
Delaware CR-17 (Old alignment of NY-17)
Sullivan CR-171 to 179 (Old alignments of NY-17)

A few more from Steuben County:
CR 115 (former US 15)
CR 121 (early 1930s NY 21)
CR 70A (former NY 70, but also forms a T with CR 70)
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: LilianaUwU on July 07, 2022, 11:46:39 AM
CR 25A in Troy, Ohio was US 25.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: zzcarp on July 07, 2022, 12:08:42 PM
Another few in Colorado:

Jefferson County highway 126 used to be CO 126.
Douglas/Jefferson County 67 connects two dangling ends of CO 67.
Fremont County 67 is also former CO 67 from US 50 north of Florence to the county line (Teller County uses County 86 for its connection to the next dangling end of CO 67 in Victor).
Douglas County 105 is former CO 105, connecting the two CO 105 dangling ends from the El Paso County Line by Palmer Lake to Wolfensberger Road.
El Paso County 105 is also former CO 105 from I-25 to CO 83.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: DandyDan on July 07, 2022, 02:36:25 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on July 06, 2022, 02:23:24 PM
I know that in Minnesota, County 45 runs parallel to I-35, beginning just north of Albert Lea and continuing north through Clarks Grove, Geneva, Owatonna, and Medford before meeting MN 60 and MN 3 in Faribault. I'm guessing that County 45 was once US 65 before that highway was truncated at Albert Lea - am I right in that regard? (If that's true, I wonder why they changed the first digit of the road number instead of just calling it County 65...)
Yes, that is old US 65.

Also, County 46 goes through Freeborn and Mower Counties on the old US 16. I don't know why they didn't get the old US Route numbers.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on July 07, 2022, 03:40:23 PM
Quote from: DandyDan on July 07, 2022, 02:36:25 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on July 06, 2022, 02:23:24 PM
I know that in Minnesota, County 45 runs parallel to I-35, beginning just north of Albert Lea and continuing north through Clarks Grove, Geneva, Owatonna, and Medford before meeting MN 60 and MN 3 in Faribault. I'm guessing that County 45 was once US 65 before that highway was truncated at Albert Lea - am I right in that regard? (If that's true, I wonder why they changed the first digit of the road number instead of just calling it County 65...)
Yes, that is old US 65.

Also, County 46 goes through Freeborn and Mower Counties on the old US 16. I don't know why they didn't get the old US Route numbers.

In Chisago County, old US 61 is County 30. My possible reasonings:

1. Non-duplication - some counties may have already had an unrelated County X in use when the matching US X number was turned back. Most, if not all Minnesota counties do not care about state highway/county highway duplication; more than a few state highways intersect or formerly intersected their county number equivalent.

2. Driver clarity - not wanting people to think CSAH 16 is still the main highway, because I-90 is now
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: froggie on July 07, 2022, 05:31:45 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on July 07, 2022, 03:40:23 PM
Quote from: DandyDan on July 07, 2022, 02:36:25 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on July 06, 2022, 02:23:24 PM
I know that in Minnesota, County 45 runs parallel to I-35, beginning just north of Albert Lea and continuing north through Clarks Grove, Geneva, Owatonna, and Medford before meeting MN 60 and MN 3 in Faribault. I'm guessing that County 45 was once US 65 before that highway was truncated at Albert Lea - am I right in that regard? (If that's true, I wonder why they changed the first digit of the road number instead of just calling it County 65...)
Yes, that is old US 65.

Also, County 46 goes through Freeborn and Mower Counties on the old US 16. I don't know why they didn't get the old US Route numbers.

In Chisago County, old US 61 is County 30. My possible reasonings:

1. Non-duplication - some counties may have already had an unrelated County X in use when the matching US X number was turned back. Most, if not all Minnesota counties do not care about state highway/county highway duplication; more than a few state highways intersect or formerly intersected their county number equivalent.

2. Driver clarity - not wanting people to think CSAH 16 is still the main highway, because I-90 is now

Furthermore, each county numbers things according to their own desire.  An example is old US 16 along the I-90 corridor.  It goes through 7 counties but has 6 different numbers (4, 35, 34, 26, 16, and 46).
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: KCRoadFan on July 07, 2022, 10:20:43 PM
Wisconsin, of course, has their lettered county roads - I wonder if there were any counties clever enough to designate a former alignment of a US or state highway with the equivalent letter in the alphabet (for example, labeling a former stretch of US 12 as County L, what with L being the 12th letter). Do you know of any such examples?
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on July 07, 2022, 10:22:07 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on July 07, 2022, 10:20:43 PM
Wisconsin, of course, has their lettered county roads - I wonder if there were any counties clever enough to designate a former alignment of a US or state highway with the equivalent letter in the alphabet (for example, designating a former stretch of US 12 as County L, what with L being the 12th letter). Do you know of any such examples?

I'd think L would be a former alignment of WI 50 and XII would be a former alignment of US 12.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: Big John on July 08, 2022, 01:40:39 AM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on July 07, 2022, 10:22:07 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on July 07, 2022, 10:20:43 PM
Wisconsin, of course, has their lettered county roads - I wonder if there were any counties clever enough to designate a former alignment of a US or state highway with the equivalent letter in the alphabet (for example, designating a former stretch of US 12 as County L, what with L being the 12th letter). Do you know of any such examples?

I'd think L would be a former alignment of WI 50 and XII would be a former alignment of US 12.
Triple-letter county highways only use 3 of the same letter.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: pderocco on July 08, 2022, 02:35:19 AM
Quote from: theroadwayone on July 05, 2022, 04:41:30 AM
There's also a large number of county routes north of Sacramento that are CR 99 or CR 99W.
I wouldn't call them county "routes" because they don't have shields, just ordinary street signs. The Central Valley is full of numbered roads, but they're called ROAD # (including in this case ROAD 99W, or sometimes HWY 99W). They're certainly not part of the California numbered county route system, which have yellow and blue pentagonal shields. It would be pretty cool if the old 99W (and the pieces of 99E that aren't now part of CA-99) were inducted into that system and given actual shields, but they would have to have A or E prefixes to be consistent with the rest of the numbered county routes.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: andarcondadont on July 08, 2022, 05:12:43 AM
Quote from: DandyDan on July 07, 2022, 02:36:25 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on July 06, 2022, 02:23:24 PM
I know that in Minnesota, County 45 runs parallel to I-35, beginning just north of Albert Lea and continuing north through Clarks Grove, Geneva, Owatonna, and Medford before meeting MN 60 and MN 3 in Faribault. I'm guessing that County 45 was once US 65 before that highway was truncated at Albert Lea - am I right in that regard? (If that's true, I wonder why they changed the first digit of the road number instead of just calling it County 65...)
Yes, that is old US 65.

Also, County 46 goes through Freeborn and Mower Counties on the old US 16. I don't know why they didn't get the old US Route numbers.

Speaking of old 65, Anoka County 35 follows the alignment of pre-1960s MN 65 through Fridley and Spring Lake Park, locally known as Central Ave NE. A bit of a stretch for this thread, I'll admit.

Through its complicated history, MN 49 was a route that for the most part, ran between St Paul and then-US 8 (now signed as Anoka County 23, unrelated). As you can imagine, MN 49 became Anoka/Ramsey County 49 by the turn of the century.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: DandyDan on July 17, 2022, 07:26:25 AM
One more in Minnesota which I discovered yesterday, which is that old US 14 in Waseca County is Waseca County 14.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: KCRoadFan on July 17, 2022, 09:56:15 AM
Quote from: DandyDan on July 17, 2022, 07:26:25 AM
One more in Minnesota which I discovered yesterday, which is that old US 14 in Waseca County is Waseca County 14.

I actually mentioned that one in the OP.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: andarcondadont on July 20, 2022, 12:44:47 PM
Another example in Minnesota: Hennepin CSAH 81 was MN 81 from 1982 (when US 52 was duplexed with I-94) to 1988. MN 81 ran from MN 100 in Robbinsdale to I-94 in Minneapolis via W Broadway Ave.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: paulthemapguy on July 23, 2022, 12:49:48 AM
Here's a photo I took in Bellaire, Ohio, of a County Route 214. I took it wondering if it was a State Route 214 at one time.  After doing some research, I discovered that it was!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51103676221_a2f00b378a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kRRGvT)
OH-214OWR (https://flic.kr/p/2kRRGvT) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: KCRoadFan on July 23, 2022, 12:52:44 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on July 23, 2022, 12:49:48 AM
Here's a photo I took in Bellaire, Ohio, of a County Route 214. I took it wondering if it was a State Route 214 at one time.  After doing some research, I discovered that it was!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51103676221_a2f00b378a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kRRGvT)
OH-214OWR (https://flic.kr/p/2kRRGvT) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr

Wow! Something I wondered about the photo is this: I know that many counties in Ohio have numbered county roads, but this is the first time I've seen one actually labeled with the pentagon shield in that state. How common is it in Ohio, really?
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: paulthemapguy on July 23, 2022, 01:05:44 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on July 23, 2022, 12:52:44 PM
Wow! Something I wondered about the photo is this: I know that many counties in Ohio have numbered county roads, but this is the first time I've seen one actually labeled with the pentagon shield in that state. How common is it in Ohio, really?

Belmont County had a lot of pentagons, but I don't recall seeing a lot of pentagons elsewhere in the state.  I remember seeing the pentagons in counties adjacent to the Ohio River. (https://flic.kr/p/2kRjbqK) Logan County will use the little white squares, (https://flic.kr/p/GEyQRh) and they post them everywhere.

Here's a white square on a former alignment of US33:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4428/36866043622_6971a54579_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/YaJ7nL)
OH-US33O (https://flic.kr/p/YaJ7nL) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: thenetwork on July 23, 2022, 07:30:10 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on July 23, 2022, 01:05:44 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on July 23, 2022, 12:52:44 PM
Wow! Something I wondered about the photo is this: I know that many counties in Ohio have numbered county roads, but this is the first time I've seen one actually labeled with the pentagon shield in that state. How common is it in Ohio, really?

Belmont County had a lot of pentagons, but I don't recall seeing a lot of pentagons elsewhere in the state.  I remember seeing the pentagons in counties adjacent to the Ohio River. (https://flic.kr/p/2kRjbqK) Logan County will use the little white squares, (https://flic.kr/p/GEyQRh) and they post them everywhere.

Here's a white square on a former alignment of US33:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4428/36866043622_6971a54579_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/YaJ7nL)
OH-US33O (https://flic.kr/p/YaJ7nL) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr

At one time, Summit County used Pentagon's to identify their county roads.  However...

1) They were only shown on the street blades of the county road, and

2) Like the rest of the street blade, the pentagon was white text on a green background.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: flan on July 25, 2022, 11:12:03 AM
A few from North Dakota:

The eastern part of ND 26 became Cass County 26 when the state highway was shortened
ND 33 became Grand Forks County 33
ND 55 became Pembina County 55
ND 62 became Stutsman County 62
ND 63 became LaMoure County 63 / Stutsman County 63
Various County Highways 10 along I-94/former U.S. 10
Various County Highways 81 along the old alignment of U.S. 81

Also I didn't see it mentioned that MN 332 became Koochiching County 332.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: paulthemapguy on July 25, 2022, 11:46:03 AM
I'm going to guess that North Dakota 38 once continued farther south, to add to that list.^

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1796/43976360662_2e8ebd2828_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2a13kUS)
ND-038-I-94NW (https://flic.kr/p/2a13kUS) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: flan on July 25, 2022, 12:23:27 PM
I'm pretty sure you're correct. Cass County seems to have some sort of half-baked county highway grid system that 26, 38, and 81 all stick out from.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: AzNate on July 25, 2022, 11:31:19 PM
In AZ, Maricopa County Route 85 is the old route SR 85 used to take from Buckeye to Phoenix.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: amroad17 on July 26, 2022, 11:37:11 PM
Florida is loaded with county highways that were formerly state highways.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: vdeane on July 27, 2022, 12:41:53 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on July 26, 2022, 11:37:11 PM
Florida is loaded with county highways that were formerly state highways.
Come to think of it, has Ontario been mentioned?  It's littered with regional routes that used to be provincial routes thanks to all the downloading in the 90s.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: webny99 on July 27, 2022, 04:12:19 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 27, 2022, 12:41:53 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on July 26, 2022, 11:37:11 PM
Florida is loaded with county highways that were formerly state highways.
Come to think of it, has Ontario been mentioned?  It's littered with regional routes that used to be provincial routes thanks to all the downloading in the 90s.

Ontario also has surprisingly few loggable routes in Travel Mapping for that reason. I feel like lot of them would be State Routes if they were in the US, but as "regional roads", they're the TM equivalent of our county routes.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: flan on July 27, 2022, 08:54:13 PM
It looks like these days old MN 54 is now Grant County Highway 54.
Title: Re: County roads whose numbers reflect their status as former US or state highways
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on July 27, 2022, 10:50:04 PM
Quote from: flan on July 27, 2022, 08:54:13 PM
It looks like these days old MN 54 is now Grant County Highway 54.

Also Carlton CSAH 45 north of I-35 in Cloquet is a former section of MN 45, which still exists south of I-35 to MN 210.