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Title: They're Not Street Blades
Post by: roadman65 on July 21, 2022, 08:59:19 AM
I was noticing that some communities use these concrete stakes instead of typical street blades for street corner signs.

Woodbridge, NJ is one and growing up in Union County, NJ I remember both Roselle and Cranford were phasing out those for the traditional blades.

What are these called in the field?
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52230228807_8b5874c1e2_z.jpg)

Taken in Tybee Island, GA.
Title: Re: They're Not Street Blades
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 21, 2022, 09:04:26 AM
I forget what they are called but they were also present in Key West due to hurricanes necessitating something more durable.
Title: Re: They're Not Street Blades
Post by: paulthemapguy on July 21, 2022, 09:23:52 AM
When I was a small child growing up in Downers Grove, Illinois, in the early 90s, the town was filled with concrete pedestals with the street names spelled out vertically. This isn't the case anymore, though there may still be some relics remaining in a few places. Spelling things out vertically works better when the lettering is all uppercase, but as most of us know, the MUTCD now requires street names to be spelled out in mixed-case. "Pedestals" is the best name I can think of for them, but there's probably a better, more official accepted term out there.
Title: Re: They're Not Street Blades
Post by: KEK Inc. on July 21, 2022, 04:17:29 PM
Carmel-by-the-sea has them too.  I always thought they were just stylized. 

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.5549334,-121.9200846,3a,15.6y,300.04h,83.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3iQDaos-xdMWed1WCO0qkw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: They're Not Street Blades
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 21, 2022, 05:04:55 PM
Quote from: KEK Inc. on July 21, 2022, 04:17:29 PM
Carmel-by-the-sea has them too.  I always thought they were just stylized. 

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.5549334,-121.9200846,3a,15.6y,300.04h,83.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3iQDaos-xdMWed1WCO0qkw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I think it is just a style thing, nearby Monterey does normal street blades.  Speaking of stylization, I've never actually ever heard anyone refer to Carmel by it's formal name "Carmel-by-the-sea."
Title: Re: They're Not Street Blades
Post by: steviep24 on July 21, 2022, 05:50:59 PM
The campus of Rochester Institute of Technology in Rochester, NY has them.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0874165,-77.6814037,3a,15y,182.86h,81.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s27D3UdooLqfu9hv3yAsSWQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&authuser=0
Title: Re: They're Not Street Blades
Post by: ran4sh on July 23, 2022, 07:09:46 AM
Madison GA, and I hate them bc they take more time to read
Title: Re: They're Not Street Blades
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on July 23, 2022, 07:25:06 AM
A number of New England communities have them, usually small towns.
Title: Re: They're Not Street Blades
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 23, 2022, 07:38:35 AM
Wenonah NJ.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/r2GJAuXQXPuXBdTa9
Title: Re: They're Not Street Blades
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on July 23, 2022, 08:26:38 AM
Portland, CT.

https://goo.gl/maps/dR6jdiUNbCZYfP4P7
Title: Re: They're Not Street Blades
Post by: roadman65 on July 23, 2022, 08:42:35 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/qg6L76qfcDWmxScLA
https://goo.gl/maps/i7FufGM1WtWPQUoV9

Pine Beach, NJ has really small ones.
https://goo.gl/maps/i7jCWEF7Q8LKRKrn7
However one particular intersection installed blades.
Title: Re: They're Not Street Blades
Post by: US 89 on July 23, 2022, 10:22:58 AM
I don't remember where it was, but I'm pretty sure I've seen PVC pipes used for this purpose someplace.
Title: Re: They're Not Street Blades
Post by: cjk374 on July 23, 2022, 10:39:32 AM
Jefferson County Arkansas used them regularly in the late 90s/early 2000s. I haven't been there in so long, I don't know if they have converted to street blades or not.

Grambling, LA used them until the early 2000s.
Title: Re: They're Not Street Blades
Post by: kirbykart on July 23, 2022, 11:24:59 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 23, 2022, 08:42:35 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/qg6L76qfcDWmxScLA
https://goo.gl/maps/i7FufGM1WtWPQUoV9
Pine Beach, NJ has really small ones.
Wow those look impossible to read from the road. That's horrible.
Title: Re: They're Not Street Blades
Post by: Mr. Matté on July 23, 2022, 03:01:52 PM
There's random ones in rural areas of Chesterfield Township, NJ on tall wooden pillars. They have to date back to no earlier than the mid-1950s since the ones along Chesterfield-Arneytown Road say "Route 528." The text on the wood, carved in and possibly back painted, is very hard to read so they are supplemented with normal blades on the top of one. I don't have any pics of one but this is one example from GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1104274,-74.6214316,3a,15y,337.16h,89.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWHujBDONG2WsoV_Ly8JF1Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).
Title: Re: They're Not Street Blades
Post by: CtrlAltDel on July 24, 2022, 01:27:22 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on July 21, 2022, 09:23:52 AM
When I was a small child growing up in Downers Grove, Illinois, in the early 90s, the town was filled with concrete pedestals with the street names spelled out vertically. This isn't the case anymore, though there may still be some relics remaining in a few places. Spelling things out vertically works better when the lettering is all uppercase, but as most of us know, the MUTCD now requires street names to be spelled out in mixed-case. "Pedestals" is the best name I can think of for them, but there's probably a better, more official accepted term out there.

They also have them in Park Ridge that I am aware of.
Title: Re: They're Not Street Blades
Post by: Road Hog on July 24, 2022, 01:59:27 PM
A county I once lived in had them and called them pylons.