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Title: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: golden eagle on August 03, 2010, 12:16:00 AM
In the Memphis area, Mill Branch Road and Airways Blvd. keep the same name when they cross into Mississippi. I believe Getwell Road does the same thing too. At the Illinois-Wisconsin border, both Green Bay and Sheridan roads keep their names when crossing into the other state. And looking at a map of Chicago, Lincoln Highway (U.S. 30) crosses between Illinois and Indiana with the same name.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: huskeroadgeek on August 03, 2010, 03:04:28 AM
There's a whole bunch of these in the Kansas City area. Kansas City, MO and Johnson County, KS use the same numbering system with E-W streets, so there are many E-W numbered streets that carry the same designation across the state line.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: Duke87 on August 03, 2010, 11:34:43 AM
I'd almost say this is more common than not. All three roads which cross out of Stamford, CT into New York keep their names: East Middle Patent Road, Long Ridge Road (CT 104), and High Ridge Road (CT 137). For some really local roads, try heading to Pemberwick (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=New+York&ll=41.019315,-73.662&spn=0.015769,0.038581&z=15). Most of those residential side streets keep their names on both ides of the state line.

Of course, perhaps the most extreme CT/NY example is King Street. Better known as NY 120A. ;-)
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: agentsteel53 on August 03, 2010, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from: Duke87 on August 03, 2010, 11:34:43 AM

Of course, perhaps the most extreme CT/NY example is King Street. Better known as NY 120A. ;-)

that changes to CT-120A, no?
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: Duke87 on August 03, 2010, 03:30:34 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 03, 2010, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from: Duke87 on August 03, 2010, 11:34:43 AM
Of course, perhaps the most extreme CT/NY example is King Street. Better known as NY 120A. ;-)
that changes to CT-120A, no?

Nope. The entire road is maintained by NYSDOT, even the parts in Connecticut.

Same goes for I-684.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: agentsteel53 on August 03, 2010, 03:44:41 PM
it's signed as NY-120A in Conn?
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: Duke87 on August 03, 2010, 06:26:55 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 03, 2010, 03:44:41 PM
it's signed as NY-120A in Conn?

Poorly, but yes. There are NYSDOT reference markers, too.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: US71 on August 03, 2010, 06:54:29 PM
7th Street Joplin, MO/Galena, KS
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: Alps on August 03, 2010, 06:58:59 PM
Warwick Tpk., NJ-NY, just a county route on either side.  If you look for that border crossing and scroll either way, you'll see plenty more.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on June 29, 2020, 04:36:28 PM
Chicago, IL-Hammond, IN: 112th St
Calumet City, IL-Hammond, IN: Sibley Blvd, Webb St, Warren St, Mason St, Ruth St, Waltham St, Elizabeth St, Highland St
Lansing, IL-Munster, IN: Ridge Rd, Terrace Dr
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: tigerwings on June 29, 2020, 06:35:08 PM
A 10 year old thread has been brought back from the dead.

Every road except Detroit St heading north out of Toledo into Michigan keeps its name.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: ftballfan on June 29, 2020, 08:10:25 PM
Gumwood Rd keeps its name when it crosses north from Indiana to Michigan. The same can be said for Elkhart Rd, Adamsville Rd, and Cassopolis St.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: Big John on June 29, 2020, 09:16:57 PM
WI 31 turns to IL 131 but remains Green Bay Rd on both sides.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: Ned Weasel on June 29, 2020, 09:42:55 PM
Quote from: huskeroadgeek on August 03, 2010, 03:04:28 AM
There's a whole bunch of these in the Kansas City area. Kansas City, MO and Johnson County, KS use the same numbering system with E-W streets, so there are many E-W numbered streets that carry the same designation across the state line.

It's not just Johnson County, KS that uses KCMO's numbering system.  Cass County, MO and Miami County, KS also share the numbering system.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: KCRoadFan on June 29, 2020, 10:52:09 PM
Quote from: stridentweasel on June 29, 2020, 09:42:55 PM
Quote from: huskeroadgeek on August 03, 2010, 03:04:28 AM
There's a whole bunch of these in the Kansas City area. Kansas City, MO and Johnson County, KS use the same numbering system with E-W streets, so there are many E-W numbered streets that carry the same designation across the state line.

It's not just Johnson County, KS that uses KCMO's numbering system.  Cass County, MO and Miami County, KS also share the numbering system.

As I know - I live in KC. I think the numbered streets in Miami County go as high as the 400's.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: jflick99 on June 29, 2020, 11:38:35 PM
Quote from: stridentweasel on June 29, 2020, 09:42:55 PM
Quote from: huskeroadgeek on August 03, 2010, 03:04:28 AM
There's a whole bunch of these in the Kansas City area. Kansas City, MO and Johnson County, KS use the same numbering system with E-W streets, so there are many E-W numbered streets that carry the same designation across the state line.

It's not just Johnson County, KS that uses KCMO's numbering system.  Cass County, MO and Miami County, KS also share the numbering system.

It has always irked me that Wyandotte County had to be different. This caused an intersection with multiple 47th Streets (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0440074,-94.6863339,18.05z) on the county line. To thier credit, they matched up with KCMO with E-W numbered avenues in Rosedale.

I wonder if this was a result of the original cities being far enough apart that it might not have mattered?
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: DandyDan on June 30, 2020, 05:46:07 AM
Abbott Dr., Locust St. And Avenue H between Omaha, NE and Carter Lake, Iowa. Avenue J retains the name in Omaha despite not being continuous with Carter Lake's Avenue J.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: Ned Weasel on June 30, 2020, 07:08:28 AM
Quote from: jflick99 on June 29, 2020, 11:38:35 PM
Quote from: stridentweasel on June 29, 2020, 09:42:55 PM
It's not just Johnson County, KS that uses KCMO's numbering system.  Cass County, MO and Miami County, KS also share the numbering system.

It has always irked me that Wyandotte County had to be different. This caused an intersection with multiple 47th Streets (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0440074,-94.6863339,18.05z) on the county line. To thier credit, they matched up with KCMO with E-W numbered avenues in Rosedale.

I wonder if this was a result of the original cities being far enough apart that it might not have mattered?

The intersection of 47th Street and 47th Street could be easily resolved if Johnson County just re-named its 47th Street as 47th Avenue, or adopted Wyandotte County's County Line Road name for it, the latter option only being prudent if Johnson County doesn't officially use "County Line Road" for 215th Street.

For what it's worth Wyandotte County's street numbering system also extends into Leavenworth County.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: 1995hoo on June 30, 2020, 08:01:09 AM
DC crossing into Maryland (not counting several that keep the same name but with a different suffix, such as Carroll Street NW becoming Carroll Avenue):


Virginia into DC:
(I suppose you could count the George Washington Memorial Parkway as a local road.)
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: Scott5114 on June 30, 2020, 08:08:41 AM
Quote from: jflick99 on June 29, 2020, 11:38:35 PM
Quote from: stridentweasel on June 29, 2020, 09:42:55 PM
Quote from: huskeroadgeek on August 03, 2010, 03:04:28 AM
There's a whole bunch of these in the Kansas City area. Kansas City, MO and Johnson County, KS use the same numbering system with E-W streets, so there are many E-W numbered streets that carry the same designation across the state line.

It's not just Johnson County, KS that uses KCMO's numbering system.  Cass County, MO and Miami County, KS also share the numbering system.

It has always irked me that Wyandotte County had to be different. This caused an intersection with multiple 47th Streets (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0440074,-94.6863339,18.05z) on the county line. To thier credit, they matched up with KCMO with E-W numbered avenues in Rosedale.

I wonder if this was a result of the original cities being far enough apart that it might not have mattered?

It may have to do with KCK being bashed together from a bunch of different municipalities. Rosedale, Argentine, and Turner were all independent towns at one point.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: jmacswimmer on June 30, 2020, 08:59:00 AM
A few around Elkton MD/Newark DE:
-PA/MD/DE 896 New London Road
-Barksdale Road
-MD/DE 279 Elkton Road
-Chestnut Hill Road
-I-95 JFK Memorial Highway (sort of)
-US 40 Pulaski Highway
-Frenchtown Road

Quote from: 1995hoo on June 30, 2020, 08:01:09 AM
DC crossing into Maryland:
[snipped]
Virginia into DC:
[snipped]

Capital Beltway? :bigass:
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: 1995hoo on June 30, 2020, 09:15:21 AM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on June 30, 2020, 08:59:00 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 30, 2020, 08:01:09 AM
DC crossing into Maryland:
[snipped]
Virginia into DC:
[snipped]

Capital Beltway? :bigass:

I didn't construe that as a "local road" because it's an Interstate highway. That's also why I listed the GW Parkway in the way I did–as a general matter, I interpret "local road" as meaning either a surface street or an arterial that primarily functions as a surface street despite possibly having some segments that use interchanges instead (Washington Boulevard and Arlington Boulevard fall into the latter category). The GW Parkway doesn't fall within either of those categories, but it also doesn't quite rise to the level of an Interstate.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: US71 on June 30, 2020, 04:34:17 PM
Zero St
Phoenix Ave
Texas Rd
Ft Smith, AR and Arloma, OK , but none are more than a couple blocks long in Arkoma.

Race Track Rd
Durham Ave
Ft Smith and Pocola, OK,  again only a few blocks long in Oklahoma




Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: RobbieL2415 on June 30, 2020, 05:44:23 PM
According to GMaps, I-84 remains named as the Wilbur Cross Highway in MA.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on June 30, 2020, 05:52:27 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on June 29, 2020, 08:10:25 PM
Gumwood Rd keeps its name when it crosses north from Indiana to Michigan. The same can be said for Elkhart Rd, Adamsville Rd, and Cassopolis St.

While all of those are known unofficially by those names on the Indiana side of the border, they are officially known as CR 5, CR 7, and IN 19. IN 19 does pick up the official title of Cassopolis St once inside the Elkhart city limits, but there's a 2 mile gap where IN 19 is the only official name.

Chicago Rd, Orange Rd, Mayflower Rd, Portage Rd and Ironwood Rd are other St Joseph County roads in addition to Gumwood that keep their names in Michigan.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: roadman65 on June 30, 2020, 05:53:28 PM
Connecticut Ave between DC and MD.
Rhode Island Ave. also between DC and MD.
Pennsylvania Ave. is a third to cross that boundary.
Wisconsin Ave. following the old US 240 across the line.
Massachusetts Ave.
New Hampshire Ave.
Bladensburg Road.

DC has plenty leaving the district.

Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: 1995hoo on June 30, 2020, 06:11:07 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 30, 2020, 05:53:28 PM
Connecticut Ave between DC and MD.
Rhode Island Ave. also between DC and MD.
Pennsylvania Ave. is a third to cross that boundary.
Wisconsin Ave. following the old US 240 across the line.
Massachusetts Ave.
New Hampshire Ave.
Bladensburg Road.

DC has plenty leaving the district.



Really? Who woulda thunk it?

Quote from: 1995hoo on June 30, 2020, 08:01:09 AM
DC crossing into Maryland (not counting several that keep the same name but with a different suffix, such as Carroll Street NW becoming Carroll Avenue):


  • Clara Barton Parkway
  • Dalecarlia Place
  • Little Falls Road
  • MacArthur Boulevard
  • Massachusetts Avenue
  • River Road
  • Harrison Street
  • Wisconsin Avenue
  • Oliver Street
  • Connecticut Avenue
  • Nevada Avenue
  • Broad Branch Road
  • Greenvale Street
  • Beach Drive
  • 16th Street
  • Portal Drive
  • 13th Street
  • Georgia Avenue
  • Juniper Street
  • Blair Road
  • Brummel Court
  • Piney Branch Road
  • Sligo Mill Road
  • New Hampshire Avenue
  • Peabody Street
  • Riggs Road
  • Sargent Road
  • Varnum Street
  • Perry Street
  • Rhode Island Avenue
  • Bladensburg Road
  • Kenilworth Avenue
  • Olive Street
  • Sheriff Road
  • East Capitol Street
  • Central Avenue
  • Fable Street
  • Benning Road
  • Pennsylvania Avenue
  • Suitland Road
  • Branch Avenue
  • Naylor Road
  • Suitland Parkway
  • Wheeler Road

Virginia into DC:

  • Washington Boulevard
  • Memorial Avenue
  • Arlington Boulevard
  • Chain Bridge Road (per a street sign at the DC end of Chain Bridge)
(I suppose you could count the George Washington Memorial Parkway as a local road.)
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: briantroutman on June 30, 2020, 06:24:09 PM
A historical example that almost qualifies: Market Street in Philadelphia aligns with Market Street in Camden, and prior to the construction of the Ben Franklin Bridge, ferries linked the two.

Morrisville/Trenton and New Hope/Lambertville each share a "Bridge Street"  on either side of their Delaware River crossings.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: kenarmy on February 12, 2021, 11:07:32 AM
Kirklin Road in MS and LA.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: SEWIGuy on February 12, 2021, 11:28:54 AM
Numerous examples in Beloit, WI and South Beloit, IL.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on February 12, 2021, 12:19:06 PM
Chicago-Hammond: 108th St, 112th St
Calumet City-Hammond: Sibley Blvd, Webb St, Warren St, Mason St, Ruth St, Elizabeth St, Highland St
Lansing-Munster: Ridge Rd, Terrace Dr
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: renegade on February 12, 2021, 05:07:24 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on June 29, 2020, 04:36:28 PM
Chicago, IL-Hammond, IN: 112th St
Calumet City, IL-Hammond, IN: Sibley Blvd, Webb St, Warren St, Mason St, Ruth St, Waltham St, Elizabeth St, Highland St
Lansing, IL-Munster, IN: Ridge Rd, Terrace Dr

Quote from: cabiness42 on February 12, 2021, 12:19:06 PM
Chicago-Hammond: 108th St, 112th St
Calumet City-Hammond: Sibley Blvd, Webb St, Warren St, Mason St, Ruth St, Elizabeth St, Highland St
Lansing-Munster: Ridge Rd, Terrace Dr
At least twice for this information.

Has anyone mentioned all the roads heading north out of Toledo yet?

:bigass:

Have a great day!
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: webny99 on February 12, 2021, 05:11:02 PM
Plenty of local roads along the NY-NJ border between Bergen County, NJ and Rockland County, NY.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: hobsini2 on February 13, 2021, 12:34:40 AM
One I am surprised has not been mentioned is Sheridan Rd (WIS 32/IL 137) between Zion and Kenosha.
There is also Bristol Rd for US 45 between Bristol and Lindenhurst.
Title: Re: Local roads keeping the same name after crossing state lines
Post by: Big John on February 13, 2021, 11:57:10 AM
Another WI/IL is Green Bay Rd (WI 31/IL 131)