I always remembered the older elevators that used buttons and once depressed it would light up to confirm the call you placed. Many older ones had buttons that didn't light and you had to assure yourself that you placed the call.
Then above the elevator door was a bunch of numbers that lit up whenever the cars passed a certain floor, that floor number would register. Usually only the lobby floor would have these.
Then the up or down arrows would either light up white or green for up, and standard red for down.
Now of course touch buttons that register the call replaced the old spring buttons. Digital numbers replaced the floor board and a red arrow is used for both up and down. However I still miss the old features though.
I remember real old school elevators, in which an operator had to stop the car when it got to the floor you wanted. There was a window he (almost always was a he) looked through to see when the elevator aligned with the floor. He used a lever-like throttle thing to move it up and down.
Only 4 manual elevators still exist in the USA. One of them: https://landmarkhunter.com/199537-bellin-building/
Old-school freight elevators are even more fun: the ones where, if you don't follow all the steps when you get off, nobody else can call the elevator from a different floor–so they have to find another way up/down to your floor, do what you should have done to begin with, then go back to where they left their freight.
Quote from: roadman65 on October 26, 2022, 08:58:00 AM
I always remembered the older elevators that used buttons and once depressed it would light up to confirm the call you placed. Many older ones had buttons that didn't light and you had to assure yourself that you placed the call.
Then above the elevator door was a bunch of numbers that lit up whenever the cars passed a certain floor, that floor number would register. Usually only the lobby floor would have these.
Then the up or down arrows would either light up white or green for up, and standard red for down.
Now of course touch buttons that register the call replaced the old spring buttons. Digital numbers replaced the floor board and a red arrow is used for both up and down. However I still miss the old features though.
Are these "new-school" elevators really that common where you are? The only one I've seen with an actual screen for the floor display was at a fairly new-looking Holiday Inn Express in Albuquerque a few days ago. It still had manual floor buttons, though, not a touch screen.
I'm currently at the Rio in Las Vegas, and the elevators here have both the light-up manual buttons and a seven-segment display for the floor number. (One nice thing about this particular elevator is that it has buttons on both sides of the door, so there's less of a chance you'll need to do the awkward thing where you ask a stranger to press the floor button for you. It's also the fastest elevator I've ever been in; the first time we rode it I was kind of startled by it.)
One thing you mention that I haven't seen in a long time is the individual per-floor lights presented as such. That's now nearly always a seven-segment or dot matrix display. (Although I've seen some elevators that clearly have individual lights per floor, but with a filter in front of them that makes it
look like a dot matrix display. Except you can see the number move across the display as it changes, which a real dot matrix display wouldn't need.)
One thing I've never seen in person, but have seen in old TV shows and such, is a speedometer-like dial display for the floor indicator.
I've never seen a touchscreen anything in an elevator.
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 26, 2022, 11:57:20 AM
One thing you mention that I haven't seen in a long time is the individual per-floor lights presented as such. That's now nearly always a seven-segment or dot matrix display. (Although I've seen some elevators that clearly have individual lights per floor, but with a filter in front of them that makes it look like a dot matrix display. Except you can see the number move across the display as it changes, which a real dot matrix display wouldn't need.)
That "dot faketrix" display is a Dover/ThyssenKrupp thing. It is commonly found on low-rise Dover/ThyssenKrupp elevators. Many older installations used incandescent bulbs.
Quote from: Pink Jazz on October 26, 2022, 12:57:01 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 26, 2022, 11:57:20 AM
One thing you mention that I haven't seen in a long time is the individual per-floor lights presented as such. That's now nearly always a seven-segment or dot matrix display. (Although I've seen some elevators that clearly have individual lights per floor, but with a filter in front of them that makes it look like a dot matrix display. Except you can see the number move across the display as it changes, which a real dot matrix display wouldn't need.)
That "dot faketrix" display is a Dover/ThyssenKrupp thing. It is commonly found on low-rise Dover/ThyssenKrupp elevators. Many older installations used incandescent bulbs.
Yeah, the elevator I most clearly remember seeing that display in, I'm fairly sure was a ThyssenKrupp. (It was in my old workplace, which only had two stories.)
If I were to think of an "old school" elevator, I'd probably think of the ones that had the brass display above the doors while you waited and it looked sort of like a half-clock with a "hand" pointing to where the elevator was at the moment.
The most "new school" elevator I think I've seen was at the Parc 55 Hotel in San Francisco this past July. There is a bank of six or seven elevators serving the guest floors and there is a keypad (similar to a touch-tone phone keypad) on which you punch in your desired floor before you board the elevator. It then tells you which car to take and when that one arrives, it takes you to your floor. I'm sure I have a picture or video on my phone that I can upload if anyone's interested.
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 26, 2022, 11:57:20 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 26, 2022, 08:58:00 AM
I always remembered the older elevators that used buttons and once depressed it would light up to confirm the call you placed. Many older ones had buttons that didn't light and you had to assure yourself that you placed the call.
Then above the elevator door was a bunch of numbers that lit up whenever the cars passed a certain floor, that floor number would register. Usually only the lobby floor would have these.
Then the up or down arrows would either light up white or green for up, and standard red for down.
Now of course touch buttons that register the call replaced the old spring buttons. Digital numbers replaced the floor board and a red arrow is used for both up and down. However I still miss the old features though.
Are these "new-school" elevators really that common where you are? The only one I've seen with an actual screen for the floor display was at a fairly new-looking Holiday Inn Express in Albuquerque a few days ago. It still had manual floor buttons, though, not a touch screen.
I'm currently at the Rio in Las Vegas, and the elevators here have both the light-up manual buttons and a seven-segment display for the floor number. (One nice thing about this particular elevator is that it has buttons on both sides of the door, so there's less of a chance you'll need to do the awkward thing where you ask a stranger to press the floor button for you. It's also the fastest elevator I've ever been in; the first time we rode it I was kind of startled by it.)
One thing you mention that I haven't seen in a long time is the individual per-floor lights presented as such. That's now nearly always a seven-segment or dot matrix display. (Although I've seen some elevators that clearly have individual lights per floor, but with a filter in front of them that makes it look like a dot matrix display. Except you can see the number move across the display as it changes, which a real dot matrix display wouldn't need.)
One thing I've never seen in person, but have seen in old TV shows and such, is a speedometer-like dial display for the floor indicator.
As far as the button panel on both sides go, it has to be with a two opposing side doors. The one side door, whether one door or two telescopic doors has the side wall align itself with the side of the door ( usually on the side of the car that is next to another elevator shaft) don't have the area to place one.
What I hate is the rear door elevator not having a floor button console, so you have to go across the car awkwardly through other folks to get to choose your floor.
The former Alexis's Brothers hospital in Elizabeth, NJ had a rear door that only opened on the basement level. The rest of the seven floors used the main door. The only console was in the front of the car, but being most people go off at the basement being the end floor, those entering had a clear shot across the elevator to touch the floor button.
Quote from: kphoger on October 26, 2022, 12:47:50 PM
I've never seen a touchscreen anything in an elevator.
Very common in newer buildings, even non-highrises, in Seattle. Many now require you to enter a destination with a touchscreen before calling the elevator (since it'll sort you based on requested floors, which is more efficient). The interiors lack any normal way to call a floor other than the ground floor.
I haven't seen one in person, but the Paternoster Lift is even old schoolier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternoster_lift
This is very specific, but I find elevators that use screens for the floor indicators tacky. I prefer seven-segment displays or even the classic "light-per-floor" displays.
Also, this is one of the last places that I expected to see a thread on elevators.
For those who didn't know, the big four manufacturers of elevators are Otis (USA), ThyssenKrupp (Germany), Schindler (Switzerland), and KONE (Finland). Many past manufacturers of elevators have been scooped up by one of these companies. Dover and US Elevator were bought out by ThyssenKrupp. Haughton and Westinghouse were bought out Schindler. Armor and Montgomery were bought out by KONE.
I have always been interested in elevators (more scared-to-death of them as a kid) and consider them as an art form since you have cookie-cutter elevators to elaborate works of art (mostly in older buildings).
Google or YouTube elevator videos and you'll open up a new geekdom, much like this group of road enthusiasts.
It's amazing how elevators vary around the world and the state of the art technology of newer elevators just amazes me, not to mention the terminology they use (gongs and lanterns, to name a few).
Quote from: kphoger on October 26, 2022, 10:51:14 AM
Old-school freight elevators are even more fun: the ones where, if you don't follow all the steps when you get off, nobody else can call the elevator from a different floor–so they have to find another way up/down to your floor, do what you should have done to begin with, then go back to where they left their freight.
I had previous employment doing facilities maintenance for Sears, and yeah, the freight elevators in back, you were basically required to close the elevator back up upon departure (no auto doors/all manual buttons, and hit and hold to close) so it could be called by the other floor
Or, if you wanted to make sure the elevator was still waiting for you, just leave the door open, and PO anyone else who might want/need to use it
Come to think of it, the elevator inside the top of the Empire State Building between the 86th Floor Observatory and the 102nd Floor Observatory, had an inside gate rather than a door. Plus it had an operator running the car as well.
Don’t know if it’s still that way today though. It’s been decades since I visited it last.
Quote from: roadman65 on October 27, 2022, 07:22:25 AM
Come to think of it, the elevator inside the top of the Empire State Building between the 86th Floor Observatory and the 102nd Floor Observatory, had an inside gate rather than a door. Plus it had an operator running the car as well.
Don't know if it's still that way today though. It's been decades since I visited it last.
I think the Duke Chapel elevator that goes halfway up the tower (you then take a narrow spiral staircase to the top) was like that as well, but it's been almost 25 years since I was up there and it's no longer open to the general public.
I've used this type elevator at the Bob Carpenter complex at the Univ of Delaware.
A doctor's office my mother in law goes to has a similar type elevator built inside what was basically a closet to help get to the basement floor, which they use for medical procedures.
Quote from: thenetwork on October 26, 2022, 10:32:48 PM
I have always been interested in elevators (more scared-to-death of them as a kid) and consider them as an art form since you have cookie-cutter elevators to elaborate works of art (mostly in older buildings).
Google or YouTube elevator videos and you'll open up a new geekdom, much like this group of road enthusiasts.
It's amazing how elevators vary around the world and the state of the art technology of newer elevators just amazes me, not to mention the terminology they use (gongs and lanterns, to name a few).
I won't lie, I've spent a decent amount of time watching those videos. It is definitely an odd interest, but the unique finds are cool to see. Unfortunately, many of the videographers of them aren't very good (they're usually young, and/or have some sort of disability, so I do understand).
Quote from: ilpt4u on October 26, 2022, 10:39:18 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 26, 2022, 10:51:14 AM
Old-school freight elevators are even more fun: the ones where, if you don't follow all the steps when you get off, nobody else can call the elevator from a different floor–so they have to find another way up/down to your floor, do what you should have done to begin with, then go back to where they left their freight.
I had previous employment doing facilities maintenance for Sears, and yeah, the freight elevators in back, you were basically required to close the elevator back up upon departure (no auto doors/all manual buttons, and hit and hold to close) so it could be called by the other floor
Or, if you wanted to make sure the elevator was still waiting for you, just leave the door open, and PO anyone else who might want/need to use it
The one I had specifically in mind was at SIU. Not sure if it's still there.
Quote from: Big John on October 26, 2022, 10:07:13 AM
Only 4 manual elevators still exist in the USA. One of them: https://landmarkhunter.com/199537-bellin-building/
Coit Tower in San Francisco Had a manual elevator around 1999, with an operator.
When I was a teenager, I worked during the summers hanging drywall with my stepfather. One of the places we worked, was (don't know what it's called now) the Stouffer Concourse, on Quebec near the old Stapleton Airport.
It was like a 9-story building that had these cool elevators on the outside, that had the multiple steps to use it someone described above. I remember thinking at the time it looked super sketchy.
I was always intrigued by elevators. I remember going to Sears as a child and being fascinated with the different colored buttons. The buttons or the area around the buttons usually lit up. I wanted to press the red fire alarm call button so bad but my parents didn't let me for obvious reasons!
Speaking of the Empire State Buildings 86-102 caged elevator, I see in the late 2010s, that it's been replaced with a glass elevator. Plus an extra $20 to ride it as the admission only covers the visit to the 86th Floor.
Forty years ago, the price of admission covered both observatories.
Quote from: Big John on October 26, 2022, 10:07:13 AM
Only 4 manual elevators still exist in the USA. One of them: https://landmarkhunter.com/199537-bellin-building/
I seriously doubt there being only 4 manual elevators left in the entire country. I know of at least 3 manually-controlled elevators -- two in the same building in Cleveland, OH -- as well as countless numbers of freight elevators where your hands or fingers must be on some sort of control to move the elevator.
Likely its one of 4 manual elevators left in the Green Bay area, as I doubt the entire state of Wisconsin has only 4 manual elevators left as well.
Quote from: roadman65 on October 29, 2022, 11:16:21 AM
Speaking of the Empire State Buildings 86-102 caged elevator, I see in the late 2010s, that it's been replaced with a glass elevator. Plus an extra $20 to ride it as the admission only covers the visit to the 86th Floor.
Forty years ago, the price of admission covered both observatories.
Then there is the special 103d floor observatory that's not open to the public (https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/inaccessible-new-york-up-to-the-103rd-floor-of-the-empire-state-building/).
They allow celebrities up there. It was originally intended as the platform for embarking and disembarking from moored dirigibles.
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BTW, one of the more interesting elevators I've ridden is at the George Washington Masonic National Memorial in Alexandria, Virginia. The elevators themselves don't look so interesting at first until you realize that because of the way the building is shaped, the elevators run at an angle (I believe something like 7° off vertical), which is very unusual in the USA for elevators inside a building.
Quote from: kurumi on October 26, 2022, 03:55:05 PM
I haven't seen one in person, but the Paternoster Lift is even old schoolier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternoster_lift
You haven't lived until you ride a Paternoster. They used to be huge in Germany. A woman was killed in one in Frankfurt about two weeks after I rode the same one.
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 29, 2022, 04:26:51 PM
BTW, one of the more interesting elevators I've ridden is at the George Washington Masonic National Memorial in Alexandria, Virginia. The elevators themselves don't look so interesting at first until you realize that because of the way the building is shaped, the elevators run at an angle (I believe something like 7° off vertical), which is very unusual in the USA for elevators inside a building.
Going up the Arch in St Louis is much like that except the car shifts on the way up to compensate for the change in angle as the Arch curves towards the top. Adding to the thrill ride-like nature, it's a shaky ride not to mention cramped if you're a bigger person (which I'm not and even I felt a bit claustrophobic).
^^^^
I agree, I felt very cramped in that tram thing.
(Edited when I noticed autocorrect had changed "tram" to "team.")
Quote from: skluth on October 30, 2022, 12:16:59 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 29, 2022, 04:26:51 PM
BTW, one of the more interesting elevators I've ridden is at the George Washington Masonic National Memorial in Alexandria, Virginia. The elevators themselves don't look so interesting at first until you realize that because of the way the building is shaped, the elevators run at an angle (I believe something like 7° off vertical), which is very unusual in the USA for elevators inside a building.
Going up the Arch in St Louis is much like that except the car shifts on the way up to compensate for the change in angle as the Arch curves towards the top. Adding to the thrill ride-like nature, it's a shaky ride not to mention cramped if you're a bigger person (which I'm not and even I felt a bit claustrophobic).
My wife and I have been up in the arch a couple of times. The last time, we were paired with an older Japanese couple who spoke no English. The first time our car re-leveled they got real upset. I did my best "don't panic" body language to try to calm them down for the rest of the trip to the top but I'm not sure how well I did.
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 29, 2022, 04:26:51 PM
BTW, one of the more interesting elevators I've ridden is at the George Washington Masonic National Memorial in Alexandria, Virginia. The elevators themselves don't look so interesting at first until you realize that because of the way the building is shaped, the elevators run at an angle (I believe something like 7° off vertical), which is very unusual in the USA for elevators inside a building.
The Luxor in Las Vegas has inclinators that run at a 39 degree angle.
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 29, 2022, 04:26:51 PM
BTW, one of the more interesting elevators I've ridden is at the George Washington Masonic National Memorial in Alexandria, Virginia. The elevators themselves don't look so interesting at first until you realize that because of the way the building is shaped, the elevators run at an angle (I believe something like 7° off vertical), which is very unusual in the USA for elevators inside a building.
There is (was?) a similar elevator at the Huntington Metro station, running from the south end of the platform to the south parking lot.
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 31, 2022, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 29, 2022, 04:26:51 PM
BTW, one of the more interesting elevators I've ridden is at the George Washington Masonic National Memorial in Alexandria, Virginia. The elevators themselves don't look so interesting at first until you realize that because of the way the building is shaped, the elevators run at an angle (I believe something like 7° off vertical), which is very unusual in the USA for elevators inside a building.
There is (was?) a similar elevator at the Huntington Metro station, running from the south end of the platform to the south parking lot.
That's still there. I view that as being a somewhat different beast. It's more like a funicular or an "inclinator" than a conventional elevator inside a building because it doesn't run in an enclosed elevator shaft the way the ones at the Masonic Memorial do. They look like regular elevators in all ways and most tourists wouldn't recognize the angled shafts if the docents didn't mention them.
Doesn't the Eiffel Tower have those elevators in each of the four legs?
Have any of you been on an elevator that goes from side to side not just up and down?
^^ SeaTac airport has a horizontal tram which travels horizontally.
Quote from: Big John on October 31, 2022, 09:54:38 PM
^^ SeaTac airport has a horizontal tram which travels horizontally.
Are you referring to the automated people movers?
Quote from: Georgia Guardrail on October 31, 2022, 09:38:17 PM
Have any of you been on an elevator that goes from side to side not just up and down?
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Quote from: Georgia Guardrail on October 31, 2022, 09:38:17 PM
Have any of you been on an elevator that goes from side to side not just up and down?
Quote from: Big John on October 31, 2022, 09:54:38 PM
^^ SeaTac airport has a horizontal tram which travels horizontally.
Quote from: Bruce on October 31, 2022, 09:58:16 PM
Are you referring to the automated people movers?
Otis Elevator developed a "horizontal elevator" concept in the mid-1970s, both in a cable-hauled version and a linear inductor motor (LIM) version. These vehicles do not have wheels, but rather are air-levitated and equipped with rubber "landing pads" that serve as brakes. As best as I can tell, the only LIM system ever sold was the one that used to be here in Duke Medical Center that originally ran from the PG1 Parking Garage -to- Duke Hospital -to- Duke South Clinic (and later as two independent shuttles in both directions to/from Duke Hospital). It had a traditional [train control system] that was essentially the same as used on the Los Angeles Green Line automated light rail system. The Duke system also a hydraulic vehicle elevator to access Floor Zero, which is the basement of the main hospital (specificially used for the transport of bariatric patients to get imaging scans).
The HOVAIR LIM system was installed at Duke in 1977 and officially completed in 1979, with lots of technical issues. It really didn't fully running until 1982, and even then many of the original features that were supposed to make it function like a train were abandoned. The South Clinic portion was shut down in November 2008 and the remainder shut down in 2010. The Duke system was internally branded as the Duke Personal Rapid Transit (PRT) system, but the vehicles had a nominal capacity of about 16 passengers. The original system had four vehicles, one of which burned in a nasty fire caused by overheating of a vehicle LIM motor. Fortunately, nobody was on the system at the time of the incident. Like the West Virginia University PRT system, the one at Duke is categorized as an automated guideway transit (AGT) system in the subcategory of Group Rapid Transit (GRT), a term which hasn't seen use since the late 1970s.
The same HOVAIR LIM technology was adapted to the amusement industry with the Tower of Terror at (then) MGM Studios in Disneyworld, which first opened in 1994. Another HOVAIR LIM system was opened at DisneyLand in 2004 (closed in 2017), and a third was opened in Disney Paris in 2007. These function as smaller amusement ride vehicles and incorporate cable-grip technologies for the tower elevator portion of the rides. Needless to say, the Tower of Terror version is not considered to be an AGT system.
I shouldn't forget that Otis also constructed many cable-hauled linear elevator AGT systems, including several that were part of a joint venture with the POMA cablecar subsidiary out of Grenoble, France. To the best of my knowledge, all of these are two-dimensional and do not have any vertical elevator components.
Tampa Harbour Island (1985-1999)
U-Bahn Serfaus (Austria) (1985)
Sun City Casino/Report (South Africa) (1987)
Getty Museum in Los Angeles (1997)
Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky Airport (1994)
Narita International Airport (Japan) (1992-2013)
Cairo International Airport (Egypt) (2000)
Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport (2001)
Huntsville Hospital (2002)
Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport (2002)
Zurich International Airport (Switzerland) (2003)
I had extensive work on the Sun City, MSP and Duke systems, plus a little bit on the Detroit system. Our experience at Sun City proved that the horizontal elevator equipment was not sufficient for systems that have multiple horizontal and vertical curves, and Otis was forced to adapt its system to use traditional European-standard funicular equipment on the more complex systems. I've always suspected that the partnership with POMA was intended to bring some funicular engineering experience to the product line. It certainly helped.
I saw a YouTube video a while back of an elevator in Europe whose cab goes both horizontal and then switches to a vertical lift. I forget where it was.
I also hear that Thyssen/Krupp has developed an elevator modern day system of multiple elevator cabs that share the same vertical shafts and ones that also do vertical and horizontal movements.
Quote from: Georgia Guardrail on October 31, 2022, 09:38:17 PM
Have any of you been on an elevator that goes from side to side not just up and down?
The Wonkavator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_TY7s7lWPg
The so-called "Wonkavator" is more properly–because it's the name used in the books–called the "Great Glass Elevator." The far-lesser-known sequel to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator. Highly unlikely that'll ever be made as a movie, though, for several reasons, including Roald Dahl and his estate not being happy with how the film studios made major changes to the first book, the story not being as good as the first book, and the story containing some rather un-PC elements that some people consider racist (e.g., the President calls the wrong number twice when calling China and is told, "It is very hard to call someone in China. The country is so full of Wings and Wongs that every time you wing, you get the wong number.").
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 02, 2022, 07:43:15 AM
The so-called "Wonkavator" is more properly–because it's the name used in the books–called the "Great Glass Elevator." The far-lesser-known sequel to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator. Highly unlikely that'll ever be made as a movie, though, for several reasons, including Roald Dahl and his estate not being happy with how the film studios made major changes to the first book, the story not being as good as the first book, and the story containing some rather un-PC elements that some people consider racist (e.g., the President calls the wrong number twice when calling China and is told, "It is very hard to call someone in China. The country is so full of Wings and Wongs that every time you wing, you get the wong number.").
The Dahl Estate was more satisfied with the Johnny Depp version.
Quote from: thenetwork on November 01, 2022, 08:16:05 PM
I saw a YouTube video a while back of an elevator in Europe whose cab goes both horizontal and then switches to a vertical lift. I forget where it was.
This one?
Quote from: Rothman on November 02, 2022, 08:50:46 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 02, 2022, 07:43:15 AM
The so-called "Wonkavator" is more properly–because it's the name used in the books–called the "Great Glass Elevator." The far-lesser-known sequel to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator. Highly unlikely that'll ever be made as a movie, though, for several reasons, including Roald Dahl and his estate not being happy with how the film studios made major changes to the first book, the story not being as good as the first book, and the story containing some rather un-PC elements that some people consider racist (e.g., the President calls the wrong number twice when calling China and is told, "It is very hard to call someone in China. The country is so full of Wings and Wongs that every time you wing, you get the wong number.").
The Dahl Estate was more satisfied with the Johnny Depp version.
Understandably, as it is (in general) far more faithful to the book. One thing Dahl himself apparently really disliked about the 1971 version is that it put the focus on Willy Wonka as the protagonist, rather than on Charlie Bucket (consider how they changed the name of the story).
A very spiffy elevator in the Pioneer Courthouse in Portland, Oregon. Court personnel told me it's the original cage installed about 100 years ago, although the elevator itself has been upgraded.
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This isn't an elevator itself, but it relates to one. The floor markers at State Auto Insurance in Columbus had these (sadly, they've been replaced). The "ball" inside rotated almost like you'd imagine a magic 8-ball or something. Not a single clue how it worked, but it was cool. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221109/6e8f84cdad61fe3a2d92c0c65a0a9eab.jpg)