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Regional Boards => Central States => Topic started by: rte66man on November 03, 2022, 08:55:29 AM

Title: US66 Pony Truss Bridge at Bridgeport
Post by: rte66man on November 03, 2022, 08:55:29 AM
Ribbon cutting yesterday for the restoration of the US66 bridge across the South Canadian River that was featured in the movie "The Grapes of Wrath":

https://www.facebook.com/OKDOT/posts/423785029945249

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CADDO CO.: Lt. Gov. Matt Pinnell and Oklahoma History Center Director Trait Thompson joined Oklahoma Secretary of Transportation Tim Gatz at the US-281/Rt. 66 Bridgeport Bridge Wednesday afternoon for a groundbreaking ceremony to mark the start of a nearly 2-year and more than $35 million bridge rehabilitation project. This work by OBC Inc. of Edmond will extend the lifespan and improve safety on the longest pony truss bridge in Oklahoma. While the project will repair the bridge piers and widen the deck to 28 feet in width, the design by CP&Y also calls for the restoration of the 38 truss spans that have made the bridge one of the highlights of touring Oklahoma's more than 400 miles of historic Route 66. This rehabilitation project comes after thousands of hours and collaborative planning with multiple agencies, the Oklahoma and national Route 66 associations, FHWA and the State Historic Preservation Office. It also received a $22 million federal BUILD grant sponsored by Sen. James Inhofe and the Oklahoma congressional delegation. The bridge is closed to all vehicle and foot traffic, with an opening expected in 2024.
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Title: Re: US66 Pony Truss Bridge at Bridgeport
Post by: kphoger on November 03, 2022, 10:17:21 AM
Here are my own photos of the bridge, from 2019.

(https://i.imgur.com/VzagLK7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/XFUww84.jpg)
Title: Re: US66 Pony Truss Bridge at Bridgeport
Post by: Scott5114 on November 03, 2022, 11:18:27 AM
Okay, SOMETIMES Oklahoma does something cool. This is an ideal bridge for historical preservation in place like this, since the vast majority of thru traffic takes the I-40 bridge just south of here, so they can afford to have it out for a couple of years.
Title: Re: US66 Pony Truss Bridge at Bridgeport
Post by: Alps on November 04, 2022, 12:05:34 AM
I kinda gotta question how they're gonna widen this bridge to 28 feet. I hope they keep original concrete and don't cast a replica of what's there, but I have my doubts.
Title: Re: US66 Pony Truss Bridge at Bridgeport
Post by: rte66man on November 07, 2022, 11:48:12 AM
The grant application:
https://oklahoma.gov/content/dam/ok/en/odot/federal-grants/raise/2020/us-281_route-66_bridgeport_bridge.pdf
Title: Re: US66 Pony Truss Bridge at Bridgeport
Post by: kphoger on November 07, 2022, 11:56:23 AM
Quote from: Alps on November 04, 2022, 12:05:34 AM
I kinda gotta question how they're gonna widen this bridge to 28 feet. I hope they keep original concrete and don't cast a replica of what's there, but I have my doubts.

According to the link just posted:

"The proposed project will address the transportation challenges by replacing the superstructure with a new multi-beam steel structure and a concrete deck. The substructure will also be replaced, and the original pony trusses will be reattached to the outside of the steel beams. In this manner, the trusses are no longer bearing the full structural load but would still appear in the same configuration as the original structure for drivers and for observers ... The existing bridge railings will be replaced with modern crash-tested railings with a design consistent with the historic context of the bridge, in accordance with the Secretary of the Interior's Standards for Rehabilitation ..."
Title: Re: US66 Pony Truss Bridge at Bridgeport
Post by: Scott5114 on November 07, 2022, 12:56:28 PM
So, basically, they're converting it to a modern steel girder bridge, and attaching the old pony trusses to the sides of it as kind of a decoration?
Title: Re: US66 Pony Truss Bridge at Bridgeport
Post by: kphoger on November 07, 2022, 01:13:47 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 07, 2022, 12:56:28 PM
So, basically, they're converting it to a modern steel girder bridge, and attaching the old pony trusses to the sides of it as kind of a decoration?

That's how I read it too.

In all honesty, the appearance is all 99% of the people care about anyway.
Title: Re: US66 Pony Truss Bridge at Bridgeport
Post by: Bobby5280 on November 07, 2022, 10:01:54 PM
I don't mind them repurposing the original pony trusses on a new bridge structure. As long as the aesthetics look proper I'm all for it. The end result will have a lot more visual personality than all the very unremarkable but newer bridges state-wide. I remember seeing a lot more of those truss style bridges in Oklahoma when I was a kid. There were a few near Lawton. Those are all gone.

Hopefully the pony trusses won't need a great deal of rehab work.
Title: Re: US66 Pony Truss Bridge at Bridgeport
Post by: Plutonic Panda on November 09, 2022, 06:46:09 AM
Yeah this is a pretty kick ass project! I'm glad they went this route with this one.
Title: Re: US66 Pony Truss Bridge at Bridgeport
Post by: Plutonic Panda on May 16, 2024, 03:34:45 AM
This project is essentially complete and open to traffic:

https://oklahoma.gov/odot/citizen/newsroom/2024/drivers-can-get-their-kicks-on-route-66-following-us-281-route-6.html
Title: Re: US66 Pony Truss Bridge at Bridgeport
Post by: Scott5114 on May 17, 2024, 01:30:42 AM
Man, Oklahoma can really do some cool stuff when it feels like it. (Which makes it frustrating that they don't bother half the time.)
Title: Re: US66 Pony Truss Bridge at Bridgeport
Post by: Plutonic Panda on May 17, 2024, 03:27:04 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 17, 2024, 01:30:42 AMMan, Oklahoma can really do some cool stuff when it feels like it. (Which makes it frustrating that they don't bother half the time.)
Completely agreed. I'm heading back west next week. I'm gonna stop at Sid's for a burger and then check this bridge out I'm excited.
Title: Re: US66 Pony Truss Bridge at Bridgeport
Post by: MikieTimT on May 17, 2024, 07:51:12 AM
Pretty cool that they found a way to preserve the most visible parts of the old bridge.  Arkansas is actually building a new pony truss bridge to replace the one over the Mulberry River on AR-23 at Turner Bend.  Unfortunately, they couldn't find anyone to take the old bridge, but they are, amazingly, going to build a new pony truss bridge just to the west (downstream) to replace the old historic bridge.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?msg=2923817 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?msg=2923817)
Title: Re: US66 Pony Truss Bridge at Bridgeport
Post by: bugo on July 26, 2024, 10:39:57 PM
I wish ODOT and the 66 geeks would quit calling this a "restoration". They demolished the old bridge and built a new ordinary concrete beam bridge and they're welding trusses to the outside of the new bridge. That's not a restoration, that is a replacement. The trusses aren't even functional. But the US 66 geeks don't care about authenticity and never have.
Title: Re: US66 Pony Truss Bridge at Bridgeport
Post by: Plutonic Panda on July 27, 2024, 02:04:33 AM
Quote from: bugo on July 26, 2024, 10:39:57 PMI wish ODOT and the 66 geeks would quit calling this a "restoration". They demolished the old bridge and built a new ordinary concrete beam bridge and they're welding trusses to the outside of the new bridge. That's not a restoration, that is a replacement. The trusses aren't even functional. But the US 66 geeks don't care about authenticity and never have.
This probably belongs on the "minor Things that bother you" thread. Not everything needs to be functional. Art is a thing.
Title: Re: US66 Pony Truss Bridge at Bridgeport
Post by: Scott5114 on July 27, 2024, 10:11:06 AM
Quote from: bugo on July 26, 2024, 10:39:57 PMI wish ODOT and the 66 geeks would quit calling this a "restoration". They demolished the old bridge and built a new ordinary concrete beam bridge and they're welding trusses to the outside of the new bridge. That's not a restoration, that is a replacement. The trusses aren't even functional. But the US 66 geeks don't care about authenticity and never have.

If the options were this or demolish the whole thing and build a boring-ass girder bridge like they did to the US-77 deck truss over the Canadian River, I would rather they do this. They can call it an ascending kumquat apparatus for all I care.