I always was fascinated by the fact the NJ Turnpike didn't use tabs to display exit numbers, but displayed them within the main part of the sign. Then I discovered that Virginia also used that method on the defunct Richmond- Petersburg Turnpike as well.
Caltrans kind of does it, but we'll say that they're tabs just pasted onto the sign face rather than above it.
Any other agencies that use or used Exit Numbers on the sign that aren't tabs or horizontal ruled such as IDOT signs in IL or in parts of Michigan and in Georgia?
North Dakota does this on minor exits where no road name is given.
(https://i.imgur.com/UcosmJE.png)
New Mexico, so it's not like it's a consistent practice or anything.
I'm pretty sure the Ohio Turnpike used to do this, but I have no photos of my own.
CalTrans. :D
To borrow a line from Scott5114: it's consistent with the NJDOT Holocron or Garden State Sinematic Universe.
Quote from: hbelkins on December 05, 2022, 10:57:11 PM
CalTrans. :D
Off the top of my head the Ojai Freeway is the only multi-exit freeway maintained by Caltrans nowadays with no exit numbers. The tab thing is a long running source of misgiving for those who are big on MUTCD compliance. All the same, exit tabs pretty much are now part of any new Caltrans signage upgrade.
Ojai Freeway:
https://www.flickr.com/gp/151828809@N08/167D5o4rrH
Some of the weird local stuff like Alfred Harrell Highway doesn't have exit numbers or tabs on any of the three interchanges. Suffice to say Alfred Harrell Highway barely meets the definition of a freeway and certainly a long ways from Caltrans standards.
I consider the following to be tab treatments:
* Full-width tabs (as in Illinois, Washington state, etc.)
* Bitten-out tabs (as in California)
* Strip-style tabs (bordered tab on one side of a long strip of green, commonly associated with California but also seen on laminated signs in Pennsylvania)
* Conventional (vanilla MUTCD) externally mounted tabs
At this stage, I think the New Jersey Turnpike Authority is the only agency left that continues to use signs where the exit number is integrated into the main sign message. Such treatments used to be far more common, as on the Thruway (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11273.msg268988#msg268988).
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 05, 2022, 09:39:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/UcosmJE.png)
New Mexico, so it's not like it's a consistent practice or anything.
This looks like they just forgot the divider bar between the exit number tab and the main sign, not an attempt at incorporating the exit number into the sign.
Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 06, 2022, 09:29:34 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 05, 2022, 09:39:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/UcosmJE.png)
New Mexico, so it's not like it's a consistent practice or anything.
This looks like they just forgot the divider bar between the exit number tab and the main sign, not an attempt at incorporating the exit number into the sign.
It's NMDOT. Who even knows what they were or weren't attempting?
Quote from: J N Winkler on December 06, 2022, 03:15:24 PM
I consider the following to be tab treatments:
* Full-width tabs (as in Illinois, Washington state, etc.)
* Bitten-out tabs (as in California)
* Strip-style tabs (bordered tab on one side of a long strip of green, commonly associated with California but also seen on laminated signs in Pennsylvania)
* Conventional (vanilla MUTCD) externally mounted tabs
At this stage, I think the New Jersey Turnpike Authority is the only agency left that continues to use signs where the exit number is integrated into the main sign message. Such treatments used to be far more common, as on the Thruway (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11273.msg268988#msg268988).
And it's probably more correct to say they haven't replaced all their signs where the exit number is part of the main sign, as their newer exit signage is plain vanilla MUTCD.
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 06, 2022, 09:36:33 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 06, 2022, 09:29:34 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 05, 2022, 09:39:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/UcosmJE.png)
New Mexico, so it's not like it's a consistent practice or anything.
This looks like they just forgot the divider bar between the exit number tab and the main sign, not an attempt at incorporating the exit number into the sign.
It's NMDOT. Who even knows what they were or weren't attempting?
I'm assuming OKDOT's drug dealer also works for NMDOT.
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 06, 2022, 11:23:55 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 06, 2022, 09:36:33 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 06, 2022, 09:29:34 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 05, 2022, 09:39:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/UcosmJE.png)
New Mexico, so it's not like it's a consistent practice or anything.
This looks like they just forgot the divider bar between the exit number tab and the main sign, not an attempt at incorporating the exit number into the sign.
It's NMDOT. Who even knows what they were or weren't attempting?
I'm assuming OKDOT's drug dealer also works for NMDOT.
Nobody does meth signage like NMDOT.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 06, 2022, 11:30:46 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 06, 2022, 11:23:55 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 06, 2022, 09:36:33 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 06, 2022, 09:29:34 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 05, 2022, 09:39:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/UcosmJE.png)
New Mexico, so it's not like it's a consistent practice or anything.
This looks like they just forgot the divider bar between the exit number tab and the main sign, not an attempt at incorporating the exit number into the sign.
It's NMDOT. Who even knows what they were or weren't attempting?
I'm assuming OKDOT's drug dealer also works for NMDOT.
Nobody does meth signage like NMDOT.
So you're telling me Breaking Bad is a documentary?
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 06, 2022, 11:50:51 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 06, 2022, 11:30:46 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 06, 2022, 11:23:55 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 06, 2022, 09:36:33 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 06, 2022, 09:29:34 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 05, 2022, 09:39:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/UcosmJE.png)
New Mexico, so it's not like it's a consistent practice or anything.
This looks like they just forgot the divider bar between the exit number tab and the main sign, not an attempt at incorporating the exit number into the sign.
It's NMDOT. Who even knows what they were or weren't attempting?
I'm assuming OKDOT's drug dealer also works for NMDOT.
Nobody does meth signage like NMDOT.
So you're telling me Breaking Bad is a documentary?
Ask me about the New Mexico meth store incident of 2011 sometime.
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 06, 2022, 09:36:33 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 06, 2022, 09:29:34 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 05, 2022, 09:39:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/UcosmJE.png)
New Mexico, so it's not like it's a consistent practice or anything.
This looks like they just forgot the divider bar between the exit number tab and the main sign, not an attempt at incorporating the exit number into the sign.
It's NMDOT. Who even knows what they were or weren't attempting?
Well, I was trying to give them a pass. But New Mexico and Oklahoma are two states in which I've not yet driven, so I haven't seen the wonder of their signage for myself.
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 06, 2022, 09:36:33 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 06, 2022, 09:29:34 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 05, 2022, 09:39:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/UcosmJE.png)
New Mexico, so it's not like it's a consistent practice or anything.
This looks like they just forgot the divider bar between the exit number tab and the main sign, not an attempt at incorporating the exit number into the sign.
It's NMDOT. Who even knows what they were or weren't attempting?
The truth may never be known, but the consequences are there for all to see.
Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 07, 2022, 12:03:43 AM
New Mexico and Oklahoma are two states in which I've not yet driven, so I haven't seen the wonder of their signage for myself.
Oklahoma signage makes you do a facepalm every so often, muttering 'Oh, Oklahoma, will you ever learn?'
New Mexico signage makes you remark 'Good grief!' on a regular basis, increasing in exasperation and in volume each time–and occasionally wonder if you're on the right road, or even in the right country.