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Title: Same Controls, Same Road, Different Exits
Post by: roadman65 on December 06, 2022, 08:31:59 AM
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Two completely different exits on I-95 in Palm Coast, Florida signed the exact same.
Title: Re: Same Controls, Same Road, Different Exits
Post by: kirbykart on December 06, 2022, 09:56:14 AM
How about NB I-295, Desert Road and US 1?

https://goo.gl/maps/82UTgXaszuTQfWm67 (https://goo.gl/maps/82UTgXaszuTQfWm67) Here's Desert Road.
https://goo.gl/maps/3DP3NsL1rwExa8pM9 (https://goo.gl/maps/3DP3NsL1rwExa8pM9) Here's US 1. It doesn't really make sense to sign Freeport here, as you've already passed Freeport and the three other exits for it, it should be Brunswick, or have no control.

This is going to happen at Interstate triangles also. This is not uncommon.
Title: Re: Same Controls, Same Road, Different Exits
Post by: webny99 on December 06, 2022, 11:28:44 AM
Quote from: kirbykart on December 06, 2022, 09:56:14 AM
This is going to happen at Interstate triangles also. This is not uncommon.

At an interstate triangle, or in your example, the two "routes" are different even though the exit destination is the same.

I believe the OP was looking for fully identical exits, with matching route number and exit destination.
Title: Re: Same Controls, Same Road, Different Exits
Post by: hbelkins on December 06, 2022, 11:50:57 AM
The two exits for US 70N and TN 84 off I-40 at Monterey. And they're within about a mile of each other.
Title: Re: Same Controls, Same Road, Different Exits
Post by: 1995hoo on December 06, 2022, 12:08:20 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 06, 2022, 11:28:44 AM
Quote from: kirbykart on December 06, 2022, 09:56:14 AM
This is going to happen at Interstate triangles also. This is not uncommon.

At an interstate triangle, or in your example, the two "routes" are different even though the exit destination is the same.

I believe the OP was looking for fully identical exits, with matching route number and exit destination.

The situation the OP arises seems like it could arise anywhere a highway has multiple exits for a place of any significance. Note, for example, that neither of the signs the OP linked bear route numbers–all they say is Palm Coast–and if you look at a map, you'll see the two exits do not serve the same off-Interstate road. (That is, it's not a situation like the companion US route crossing back and forth with multiple exits in a short area.)

So the question is whether the OP is referring to the scenario where the guide signs do not list the roads onto which you're exiting but instead list only the one destination. If so, that would disqualify the examples kirbykart posted, and it would substantially narrow down the analysis because many states almost always post a route number or road name. If it doesn't matter whether the signs list route numbers or road names, then it would be a very common scenario–I can think of multiple exits near me that are signed for Alexandria, for example.
Title: Re: Same Controls, Same Road, Different Exits
Post by: kphoger on December 06, 2022, 12:14:15 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 06, 2022, 11:50:57 AM
The two exits for US 70N and TN 84 off I-40 at Monterey. And they're within about a mile of each other.

Not quite.  Exit #301 uses Jamestown, while Exit #300 uses Livingston.

Exit #301 EB – Monterey/Jamestown (US-70N)
Exit #301 WB – Monterey/Jamestown (US-70N)(TN-84)

Exit #300 EB – Monterey/Livingston (US-70N)(TN-84)
Exit #300 WB – Monterey/Livingston (US-70N)(TN-84)
Title: Re: Same Controls, Same Road, Different Exits
Post by: ran4sh on December 06, 2022, 01:58:08 PM
This used to be true in Marietta GA, where exit 263 on I-75 NB and exit 265 SB both had BGS for "SR 120 Loop [shield], Marietta, Roswell". Then the route designations were changed, with 120 Loop being redesignated into SR 120 and SR 120 Alt. So now the NB sign lists SR 120 and the SB sign lists SR 120 Alt. It's still one road though
Title: Re: Same Controls, Same Road, Different Exits
Post by: Revive 755 on December 07, 2022, 10:39:44 PM
I-29 does this with US 59 in Missouri:

EDIT:  Southbound I-55 also has this with the business loop/Old US 66/Lincoln Parkway at Lincoln, IL:
* At Exit 133 (https://goo.gl/maps/RMhbzFuT2HuJobe57) (northbound however has Lawndale as a second control (https://goo.gl/maps/TphejXW7tws7Wkk68))
*At Exit 123 (https://goo.gl/maps/KdtGLJmuFeXWgUaw5)

Title: Re: Same Controls, Same Road, Different Exits
Post by: Hunty2022 on December 07, 2022, 10:51:08 PM
I-64 has 2 exits for I-264. One is in Virginia Beach and has West I-264 signed for Norfolk/Portsmouth. At the tri-point of I-64, I-264, and I-664, East I-264 is signed for Norfolk/Portsmouth.
Title: Re: Same Controls, Same Road, Different Exits
Post by: Scott5114 on December 08, 2022, 12:06:28 AM
Exits 47 and 51 on I-35 in OK are both signed for "US 77, Turner Falls Area".
Title: Re: Same Controls, Same Road, Different Exits
Post by: jp the roadgeek on December 08, 2022, 12:14:32 AM
Southbound on CT 15: Exit 86 and Exit 67S are both for I-91 South New Haven
Title: Re: Same Controls, Same Road, Different Exits
Post by: SkyPesos on December 08, 2022, 12:38:45 AM
Since I-270 in Columbus no longer uses control cities, I guess they apply for this thread.

I-70 exits 93 and 108
I-71 exits 101 and 119