I want to know what types of interchanges exist in real life and fictional interchanges.
The most common types, in both real life and fiction, are:
- Diamond
- Trumpet
- Cloverleaf
- Partial cloverleaf (parclo)
- Single-point urban interchange (SPUI)
- Diverging diamond interchange (DDI)
- Stack (there are a half-dozen subtypes of stack)
- Volleyball
A Google image search should bring up diagrams of each of these.
For fictional interchanges, pretty much any configuration where there's ramps between a freeway and another road will count as an interchange, so you have an infinite number of types, many of which wouldn't be feasible in real life.
Is Kurumi's Field Guide to Interchanges still available online?
http://www.kurumi.com/roads/interchanges/ (http://www.kurumi.com/roads/interchanges/)
Don't forget "turbine" and "mixing bowl".
While full turbine interchanges exist, they are relatively rare. More common is to have 1 to 3 of the busiest left-turn movements as turbine ramps, while the rest are cloverleaf-type loops.
Examples:
1 ramp - I-75/I-275 Cincinnati (https://goo.gl/maps/JpGCqffHEsgydoeJ6)
2 ramps - I-70/I-270 Columbus (https://goo.gl/maps/L1SVTLraYErjvzar8)
3 ramps - I-70/I-75 "Crossroads of America" near Dayton (https://goo.gl/maps/Vt39BhcdRSJ3aPaF7)
I'm not sure, but I think a mixing bowl is similar to a turbine, but with tighter and more elevated ramps.
An example of a full turbine interchange would be I-485 / I-85 northeast of Charlotte, NC.
Quote from: lepidopteran on December 18, 2022, 01:18:33 AM
I'm not sure, but I think a mixing bowl is similar to a turbine, but with tighter and more elevated ramps.
I always figured a mixing bowl is a term used by locals to describe a large interchange area, usually made up of more than two individual roadways where unconventional ramp routings and routes are needed to make all the connections. A spaghetti interchange is also a term used for these type interchanges.
Here's a pretty good thread that featured a scavenger hunt for the different types:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=8145
Here is an interchange that is unique, as in the only one on Earth constructed this way. US 35/OH 32 near Jackson, OH: https://goo.gl/maps/cGm49ZJCu7zUWKTg9
Both US 35 and OH 32 are grade-separated and have ramps that exit to the other highway. Right turning traffic merges with the other highway, however, left turning traffic at all four ramps comes to a stop and must make the left at-grade.
Quote from: lepidopteran on December 18, 2022, 01:18:33 AM
Don't forget "turbine" and "mixing bowl".
While full turbine interchanges exist, they are relatively rare. More common is to have 1 to 3 of the busiest left-turn movements as turbine ramps, while the rest are cloverleaf-type loops.
Examples:
1 ramp - I-75/I-275 Cincinnati (https://goo.gl/maps/JpGCqffHEsgydoeJ6)
2 ramps - I-70/I-270 Columbus (https://goo.gl/maps/L1SVTLraYErjvzar8)
3 ramps - I-70/I-75 "Crossroads of America" near Dayton (https://goo.gl/maps/Vt39BhcdRSJ3aPaF7)
I'm not sure, but I think a mixing bowl is similar to a turbine, but with tighter and more elevated ramps.
Turbines are also called turbans, depending on your source.
Wichita has a full one at US-81 & US-400.
https://www.paulacrossamerica.com/geometry.html >_> <_<
Quote from: sprjus4 on December 18, 2022, 08:47:53 AM
An example of a full turbine interchange would be I-485 / I-85 northeast of Charlotte, NC.
An even better one is the original in Chicago: The Jane Byrne Circle Interchange.
Quote from: amroad17 on December 18, 2022, 11:00:34 PM
Here is an interchange that is unique, as in the only one on Earth constructed this way. US 35/OH 32 near Jackson, OH: https://goo.gl/maps/cGm49ZJCu7zUWKTg9
Both US 35 and OH 32 are grade-separated and have ramps that exit to the other highway. Right turning traffic merges with the other highway, however, left turning traffic at all four ramps comes to a stop and must make the left at-grade.
Isn't US 23/OH 32 similar?
Quote from: Henry on December 20, 2022, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on December 18, 2022, 08:47:53 AM
An example of a full turbine interchange would be I-485 / I-85 northeast of Charlotte, NC.
An even better one is the original in Chicago: The Jane Byrne Circle Interchange.
It's not a full turbine anymore, since the northbound to westbound ramp was rebuilt.
Quote from: hbelkins on December 21, 2022, 05:52:40 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on December 18, 2022, 11:00:34 PM
Here is an interchange that is unique, as in the only one on Earth constructed this way. US 35/OH 32 near Jackson, OH: https://goo.gl/maps/cGm49ZJCu7zUWKTg9
Both US 35 and OH 32 are grade-separated and have ramps that exit to the other highway. Right turning traffic merges with the other highway, however, left turning traffic at all four ramps comes to a stop and must make the left at-grade.
Isn't US 23/OH 32 similar?
US-23 is the through highway in that instance, and just simply has a standard diamond interchange with OH-32.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on December 21, 2022, 07:11:00 PM
Quote from: Henry on December 20, 2022, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on December 18, 2022, 08:47:53 AM
An example of a full turbine interchange would be I-485 / I-85 northeast of Charlotte, NC.
An even better one is the original in Chicago: The Jane Byrne Circle Interchange.
It's not a full turbine anymore, since the northbound to westbound ramp was rebuilt.
So now it's a 3/4 turbine, then?
Quote from: Henry on December 22, 2022, 10:47:58 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on December 21, 2022, 07:11:00 PM
Quote from: Henry on December 20, 2022, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on December 18, 2022, 08:47:53 AM
An example of a full turbine interchange would be I-485 / I-85 northeast of Charlotte, NC.
An even better one is the original in Chicago: The Jane Byrne Circle Interchange.
It's not a full turbine anymore, since the northbound to westbound ramp was rebuilt.
So now it's a 3/4 turbine, then?
I believe so, yes.
Hey, OP here, and I wonder what kind of hybrid interchange types exist or are fictional. I know there are a few that fellow members on here either created or mentioned but, of course, they are all over and I'm sure that there are some that I don't even know exist. The main reason I'm asking for different interchange types is that I have a YT channel where some of the stuff I do is build different interchanges and need ideas on what interchange to build so I'm going to do more unique interchanges.
Quote from: chrismarion100 on December 22, 2022, 02:35:39 PM
Hey, OP here, and I wonder what kind of hybrid interchange types exist or are fictional. I know there are a few that fellow members on here either created or mentioned but, of course, they are all over and I'm sure that there are some that I don't even know exist. The main reason I'm asking for different interchange types is that I have a YT channel where some of the stuff I do is build different interchanges and need ideas on what interchange to build so I'm going to do more unique interchanges.
↓ Start with these ↓
Quote from: kphoger on September 22, 2022, 10:40:57 AM
Related topics, most of which have come from |tradephoric|:
Improving the dreaded Cloverleaf (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=24879.0)
Evaluation Of Milwaukee B And Synchronized Interchanges (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=23859.0)
Split Milwuakee B Interchange (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=23865.0)
Contraflow Parclo A4 interchange (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=23877.0)
Synchronized Interchange (w/contraflow off-ramps) (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=23903.0)
Improving the Parclo (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=23916.0)
Half-roundabout interchange? (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=25245.0)
Double Trumpet interchange (DDI alternative) (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=27630.0)
Quote from: paulthemapguy on December 20, 2022, 10:17:01 AM
https://www.paulacrossamerica.com/geometry.html >_> <_<
I don't particularly like this page. There is good information, but they clearly didn't do as much research as one would expect for a page that is trying to give examples of interchanges. You can tell just by the names he gives them, as well as the fact that he says the Parclo B4 doesn't exist. It does, just mush less common. He does actually give one example, so at least there is that. I was curious just how many there are, because I know there are a couple in Denver, and many in Florida, but there are not as many as I th. Someone made a thread with a list here: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7967.0
Quote from: MCRoads on December 22, 2022, 04:54:14 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on December 20, 2022, 10:17:01 AM
https://www.paulacrossamerica.com/geometry.html >_> <_<
I don't particularly like this page. There is good information, but they clearly didn't do as much research as one would expect for a page that is trying to give examples of interchanges. You can tell just by the names he gives them, as well as the fact that he says the Parclo B4 doesn't exist. It does, just mush less common. He does actually give one example, so at least there is that. I was curious just how many there are, because I know there are a couple in Denver, and many in Florida, but there are not as many as I th. Someone made a thread with a list here: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7967.0
Is your tongue firmly planted in your cheek, or did you not realize that |paulthemapguy| is the "he" you're talking about?
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=31863.0
Quote from: kphoger on December 22, 2022, 06:22:20 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on December 22, 2022, 04:54:14 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on December 20, 2022, 10:17:01 AM
https://www.paulacrossamerica.com/geometry.html >_> <_<
I don’t particularly like this page. There is good information, but they clearly didn’t do as much research as one would expect for a page that is trying to give examples of interchanges. You can tell just by the names he gives them, as well as the fact that he says the Parclo B4 doesn’t exist. It does, just mush less common. He does actually give one example, so at least there is that. I was curious just how many there are, because I know there are a couple in Denver, and many in Florida, but there are not as many as I th. Someone made a thread with a list here: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7967.0
Is your tongue firmly planted in your cheek, or did you not realize that |paulthemapguy| is the "he" you're talking about?
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=31863.0
Oh… um, no, I didn’t realize that. This is very awkward…
It reminds me of the time I was at the breakfast table at a seminary with my dad. The professor eating across the table from me learned that I was working for a Christian publishing house at the time, so he asked me what I thought of the Bible translation that the publishing house was known for. I didn't really care for it, and I told him as much. Then he said he hoped I might consider reevaluating it at some point–and to look at the list of contributors. Yeah, it turns out he had personally worked on translating the book of Isaiah.
(My dad still ended up earning his second master's degree, so I guess the prof didn't flunk him on my account.)
Quote from: paulthemapguy on December 20, 2022, 10:17:01 AM
https://www.paulacrossamerica.com/geometry.html >_> <_<
Here in NJ around Maple Shade, we have something relatively close to your very last example on the page (6 way interchange). It's actually where 3 jersey-style highways meet: NJ 73, 38 & 41. Within the middle of the triangle is a few businesses, and other businesses have driveways or roads that connect directly or indirectly with the immediate area. https://goo.gl/maps/LZy9ZkBRFcqpczsS7
Quote from: kphoger on December 22, 2022, 06:53:11 PM
It reminds me of the time I was at the breakfast table at a seminary with my dad. The professor eating across the table from me learned that I was working for a Christian publishing house at the time, so he asked me what I thought of the Bible translation that the publishing house was known for. I didn't really care for it, and I told him as much. Then he said he hoped I might consider reevaluating it at some point–and to look at the list of contributors. Yeah, it turns out he had personally worked on translating the book of Isaiah.
(My dad still ended up earning his second master's degree, so I guess the prof didn't flunk him on my account.)
I mean, with any sort of creative work (I know, this is a translation of the Word of God so some people would say that the humans involved are not actually creating anything, but play along for the sake of the point) if the creator asks someone's honest opinion and they get it, "I don't care for it" is an option that should be on the table, or else why bother asking? I'm sure lots of people wouldn't care for the stuff I've spent a lot of time writing and drawing, and that's okay. The risk someone isn't going to like it is part of the inherent risk of being an artist, whether that art is translating, writing, drawing, or anything else.
What it reminds
me of was this (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7203.msg2540335#msg2540335).
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 22, 2022, 07:07:59 PM
I mean, with any sort of creative work (I know, this is a translation of the Word of God so some people would say that the humans involved are not actually creating anything, but play along for the sake of the point) if the creator asks someone's honest opinion and they get it, "I don't care for it" is an option that should be on the table, or else why bother asking? I'm sure lots of people wouldn't care for the stuff I've spent a lot of time writing and drawing, and that's okay. The risk someone isn't going to like it is part of the inherent risk of being an artist, whether that art is translating, writing, drawing, or anything else.
Huh. I don't think of translation as something that fits under the "art" umbrella. To me, it's more of a scholarly endeavor. Admittedly, there is an art to language–which is especially relevant, considering that this version of the Bible was firmly within the
dynamic equivalence (https://www.translationdirectory.com/articles/article1718.php) camp–but, to me, it's not at all the same thing as disliking Coldplay or Frida Kahlo.
I tend to think of anything that involves some sort of subjective creative license as being art, although there are obviously degrees to it. So under that definition, it would be a form of art. I'm not really familiar with the languages involved in translating the Bible, but with most language pairs there are things like colloquialisms that don't have a 1:1 match between the two languages, so a translator has to choose the best way of rendering such things. Since the translator has some degree of discretion in what "sounds best", I would consider it to be art, even if not quite as artistic as music or other forms of literature.
But the fun thing about art is that it's so subjective that even the answer to "what is art?" is subjective.
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 22, 2022, 09:35:16 PM
I'm not really familiar with the languages involved in translating the Bible, but with most language pairs there are things like colloquialisms that don't have a 1:1 match between the two languages, so a translator has to choose the best way of rendering such things.
It's just like translating from any other language, except that there's nobody around who speaks it anymore to ask for advice. :spin:
For example, in the whole homosexuality debate, there's a term that's found in a book of the Bible written by Paul of Tarsus (who also wrote like half of the New Testament). It's a Greek compound word whose two parts can be found in a verse from Greek versions of the
Old Testament (originally written in Hebrew) produced around the same time. There's debate about exactly what the compound word means: is it just a literal mashup of its two parts (like toothbrush), or is its meaning derivative but much less literal (like butterfly)? Translators can't exactly go over to ancient Israel and ask language professors what the word means. So they look to see what the word means elsewhere in the same book; he didn't use the same word elsewhere in the same book. So then they look to see what it means in other books he wrote; he didn't use it in any other book either. So then they look to see what it means in other Christian literature of the period or earlier; no other Christian writer used it up to that point either. So then they look to see what it means in secular writings of the period or earlier; no secular writers had used it either. From all appearances, Paul invented the word. So then they look to see what it means in writings shortly
after the period; its earliest few uses after that point are ambiguous and could go either way. So yeah, it can be a challenge in a way that, say, translating from modern Dutch into modern Portuguese isn't. But otherwise, translation is translation.
Anywho, I frequently translate between Spanish and English, and I consider it more scholarly than artistic.
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 22, 2022, 07:07:59 PM
[SNIP!]
What it reminds me of was this (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7203.msg2540335#msg2540335).
Ohhh, oh noooo!
I don't feel as bad now.