Just a fun place for "remember when" conversations. Please keep it lighthearted.
Post one roadgeek-related one, and one non-roadgeek one.
1. Remember when the speed limit was 55?
I'm not old enough to remember when all speed limits were capped at 55. However, when I learned to drive, they were capped at 65 on the Interstates and 55 on everything else. It was while I was in high school that Kansas bumped the limits up to 70 and 65. For a period of time, I remember there being no speed limit signs at all, because the old ones had been removed but the new ones hadn't yet been installed. We were told the limit was still 55 until the 65 signs were actually installed.
2. Remember when an app was something you ordered before your meal in a restaurant?
Definitely. When I was in high school, people mainly used cell phones in the car–when they were away from their "real" phone. A few years later, in the early '00s, most people were carrying cell phones, but having apps on them was still unheard of. It wasn't until the early '10s that I remember smartphones becoming ubiquitous.
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 09:08:15 AM
2. Remember when an app was something you ordered before your meal in a restaurant?
Definitely. When I was in high school, people mainly used cell phones in the car–when they were away from their "real" phone. A few years later, in the early '00s, most people were carrying cell phones, but having apps on them was still unheard of. It wasn't until the early '10s that I remember smartphones becoming ubiquitous.
I don't remember anyone calling appetizers "apps" until I was older. Probably around the same time smartphone apps became popular.
This thread's gonna be tougher for me, since I'm only 22, but here goes.
1. Remember when Clearview was first introduced?Even as a kid, I could tell the difference between the fonts and even at that age, I didn't like the "new font". I first remember seeing them on the Illinois Tollways, and then in Michigan. And at the time, we thought Clearview was totally the future. Since then, we've seen a lot of scaling back, to the point where there's only a small handful of states still using Clearview.
2. Remember when airplanes had only one TV "channel" for the entire plane?Either the days of CRTs mounted above the aisle, or the little LCDs that would lower above the rows of seats. No seat-back screens. All they would have playing is either a movie or two, or some general compilation of programming. We always flew on American Airlines, and they had a deal with NBC-Comcast. So, it was always NBC shows that were playing. Some people had their own devices, but Wi-Fi wasn't nearly as prevalent (or not even yet introduced). Kind of a taste of the days where there were only three major TV channels which I definitely did
not live through.
1. Remember the era prior to automated toll collection?
I sure do. All toll payment was in cash only at most toll plazas and the backups at heavy travel times could be lengthy. I remember when I was growing up, if there was no exact change (or "toll machine," as New York City signed them) lane, my father always went to the very far right at toll plazas. His explanation was that trucks and buses were almost always required to keep to the far right and there would thus be fewer vehicles waiting on line there and he found it was usually faster to mix in with them. For the most part, I found him to be correct when I started driving and I did the same until I got a Virginia Smart Tag and an E-ZPass in 2001. I also remember when the toll on the Verrazano hit $7 there was a lane marked for exact cash toll only–not a toll machine with a coin basket, a manned lane where they took paper currency but you were only supposed to use the exact amount to speed the process. Didn't stop the main in front of us from trying to use a $50 bill once.
2. (kphoger's comment prompted this one:) Remember when what we now call cell phones were called "car phones"?
Yup. The first ones were either mounted to the car in some way or were sized like a small case or similar. The handset was corded to the console-like portion. My father's first "car phone" was theoretically portable and could be carried with him, but it was relatively heavy and bulky. I got my first mobile phone in late 1999, primarily because my car had broken down one morning on the way to federal court and I was concerned about that ever happening again. At the time, you also had to be cautious about where you used your phone because of roaming fees–if you drove out of your immediate coverage area (say, if I drove to New York), you would face surcharges.
1. Remember when I-296 was signed?
2. Remember when the price of a McDonald's hamburger was 15 cents?
Remember when Futurama's joke about a Presidential election was that both candidates were so similar and boring?
(https://morbotron.com/img/S02E07/149155.jpg)
My, how things have changed.
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 28, 2022, 09:46:12 AM
1. Remember the era prior to automated toll collection?
I sure do. All toll payment was in cash only at most toll plazas and the backups at heavy travel times could be lengthy. I remember when I was growing up, if there was no exact change (or "toll machine," as New York City signed them) lane, my father always went to the very far right at toll plazas. His explanation was that trucks and buses were almost always required to keep to the far right and there would thus be fewer vehicles waiting on line there and he found it was usually faster to mix in with them. For the most part, I found him to be correct when I started driving and I did the same until I got a Virginia Smart Tag and an E-ZPass in 2001. I also remember when the toll on the Verrazano hit $7 there was a lane marked for exact cash toll only—not a toll machine with a coin basket, a manned lane where they took paper currency but you were only supposed to use the exact amount to speed the process. Didn't stop the main in front of us from trying to use a $50 bill once.
2. (kphoger's comment prompted this one:) Remember when what we now call cell phones were called "car phones"?
Yup. The first ones were either mounted to the car in some way or were sized like a small case or similar. The handset was corded to the console-like portion. My father's first "car phone" was theoretically portable and could be carried with him, but it was relatively heavy and bulky. I got my first mobile phone in late 1999, primarily because my car had broken down one morning on the way to federal court and I was concerned about that ever happening again. At the time, you also had to be cautious about where you used your phone because of roaming fees—if you drove out of your immediate coverage area (say, if I drove to New York), you would face surcharges.
I do miss the what to me was the great feeling of having everything done and settled when pulling away from the cash tollgate, never again having to revisit that particular transaction, though.
Yes, I also early on figured out the trick of the truck-bus lanes at ISTHA manned toll plazas.
Remember coming home from wherever and all of your clothes inevitably reeked of accumulated tobacco smoke?Mike
Remember when Michigan was commonly thought to have the worst roads in the country?
Remember when it was common to float personal checks in advance of paychecks?
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 28, 2022, 11:10:49 AM
Remember when Michigan was commonly thought to have the worst roads in the country?
Isn't that still the case? New Mexico is the only state I've consistently heard in the conversation as being as bad or worse.
Michigan's roads are still terrible.
Middle of the country-level at worst. Michigan is nowhere nearly as bad as I remember it during the 1990s.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on December 28, 2022, 09:23:53 AM
I don't remember anyone calling appetizers "apps" until I was older. Probably around the same time smartphone apps became popular.
I specifically remember it from the movie
Beautiful Girls, which came out in 1996:
Quote
– We got a new bar, little fireplace, menu, apps.
– Apps?
– Yeah. Appetizers. We got apps.
– He's the proprietor. He's got the lingo down.
Granted, it was meant to be humorous, because apparently nobody else was using the term. But it wasn't long after the movie that I started hearing the word elsewhere.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on December 28, 2022, 09:23:53 AM
2. Remember when airplanes had only one TV "channel" for the entire plane?
I've only flown once since 2007, so I didn't even realize there are TV "channels" on airplanes
at all. Nobody in my row on any of my four flights earlier this year watched anything on the little seatback screens. My only memory of what actually plays on airplane screens is from watching a movie on a big screen at the front of coach class (for long flights), with plug-in headphones handed out by the stewardesses. If you didn't want to watch the movie that was playing, then you just didn't watch anything at all.
This year, I also took a long-distance bus in Mexico for the first time since 2002. Back then, my second class bus from Chihuahua City to Creel had a CRT television set, for movies, perched on the front of the passenger-side luggage rack.
1. Remember when I-95 was incomplete?2. Remember when tickets were a thin strip of paper with a barcode on it that you had to either get delivered to your house or pick up from a ticket office, and not something you can simply pull up on your phone as we do now?Quote from: mgk920 on December 28, 2022, 11:02:27 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 28, 2022, 09:46:12 AM
1. Remember the era prior to automated toll collection?
I sure do. All toll payment was in cash only at most toll plazas and the backups at heavy travel times could be lengthy. I remember when I was growing up, if there was no exact change (or "toll machine," as New York City signed them) lane, my father always went to the very far right at toll plazas. His explanation was that trucks and buses were almost always required to keep to the far right and there would thus be fewer vehicles waiting on line there and he found it was usually faster to mix in with them. For the most part, I found him to be correct when I started driving and I did the same until I got a Virginia Smart Tag and an E-ZPass in 2001. I also remember when the toll on the Verrazano hit $7 there was a lane marked for exact cash toll only–not a toll machine with a coin basket, a manned lane where they took paper currency but you were only supposed to use the exact amount to speed the process. Didn't stop the main in front of us from trying to use a $50 bill once.
2. (kphoger's comment prompted this one:) Remember when what we now call cell phones were called "car phones"?
Yup. The first ones were either mounted to the car in some way or were sized like a small case or similar. The handset was corded to the console-like portion. My father's first "car phone" was theoretically portable and could be carried with him, but it was relatively heavy and bulky. I got my first mobile phone in late 1999, primarily because my car had broken down one morning on the way to federal court and I was concerned about that ever happening again. At the time, you also had to be cautious about where you used your phone because of roaming fees–if you drove out of your immediate coverage area (say, if I drove to New York), you would face surcharges.
I do miss the what to me was the great feeling of having everything done and settled when pulling away from the cash tollgate, never again having to revisit that particular transaction, though.
Yes, I also early on figured out the trick of the truck-bus lanes at ISTHA manned toll plazas.
This is a great point, and is the one thing I miss about cash versus ETC...you'd pull up to a booth, know you're getting charged the correct amount as you hand the bills over, and as soon as the green light flips on/gate rises/etc. that transaction was over & done with, no back-processing involved. Compared to now, where all that happens in the moment is your transponder/plate is read and the rest is all back-processing. In the cash days, I didn't have to monitor my E-ZPass account after driving a toll road to check when the toll posts and if it's correct (and dispute it if not, which has happened occasionally).
And I used to use the same trick at the JFK toll plaza on I-95 north of the Tydings Bridge...the 2 rightmost cash lanes for trucks were almost always quicker than the middle cash lanes for cars. Although it seemed like the secret was getting out around the same time I finally opened an E-ZPass account in 2018 (and of course, that plaza is no more now anyway).
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 09:08:15 AM
1. Remember when the speed limit was 55?
I received my first Drivers License by the Texas DPS on 12/7/1995 -- the day before President Bill Clinton officially signed a law on 12/8/1995 barring any federal-imposed cap on the speed limit. From the next week onward I saw the new limit signs posted on the highways more and more by the state of Texas. Before then I only had a learner's permit and I was promoted to an independent licensed driver.
I got my license in 1973 just after the 55 mph went nationwide. But I rarely drove until 1985 when I got a car so it really didn't affect me much. It was still a stupid idea and nothing was more annoying than getting stuck behind a car driven by some geezer with a "Driving 50 is Nifty" bumper sticker. (Yes, they did exist and I did get stuck behind such a driver on the old US 51 south of Peru/LaSalle.)
Quote from: jmacswimmer on December 28, 2022, 01:10:37 PM
2. Remember when tickets were a thin strip of paper with a barcode on it that you had to either get delivered to your house or pick up from a ticket office, and not something you can simply pull up on your phone as we do now?
I last flew in March of this year, and I used paper tickets. This merely involved stopping by the airport ahead of time and using one of the self-service machines. I could have done that on the day of departure, but I had a very early flight and didn't want to waste time that morning.
1. Remember when the speed limit was 55?
I do remember when the speed limit was 55 everywhere, although I wasn't old enough to drive until after the law was changed (I think in 1987ish) to allow rural interstates to have limits up to 65.
This created an interesting dynamic on some highways. On the Mass Pike, for instance, there were sections that were 55 and those that were 65 (I don't remember which ones). The most dangerous places to travel were areas transitioning from 65 to 55, because most drivers didn't slow down and thus became prime targets for speeding tickets. Of course, this changed in 1995 when the limit was lifted completely.
1. Remember when US 1 was red (http://us%201%20was%20red)?
2. Remember when Bill Gates was (mainly) reviled by the left and well-regarded by the right?
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 01:31:49 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on December 28, 2022, 01:10:37 PM
2. Remember when tickets were a thin strip of paper with a barcode on it that you had to either get delivered to your house or pick up from a ticket office, and not something you can simply pull up on your phone as we do now?
I last flew in March of this year, and I used paper tickets. This merely involved stopping by the airport ahead of time and using one of the self-service machines. I could have done that on the day of departure, but I had a very early flight and didn't want to waste time that morning.
I usually still print a paper boarding pass as well while checking bags (I figure I'm already at the kiosk anyway), just because I'm overly-paranoid about what happens if my phone dies & I can't charge it before boarding. (And I discovered when flying internationally in October that mobile boarding passes aren't allowed due to the need to have your passport verified at check-in).
I was more-so thinking of concerts & sporting events thru Ticketmaster & other similar sites where mobile ticketing is the only option these days.
Quote from: jmacswimmer on December 28, 2022, 01:45:13 PM
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I was more-so thinking of concerts & sporting events thru Ticketmaster & other similar sites where mobile ticketing is the only option these days.
When we go to hockey games I often wonder how people who don't have smartphones get in.
Quote from: jmacswimmer on December 28, 2022, 01:10:37 PM
1. Remember when I-95 was incomplete?
I do remember. Once on a return trip from DC to Boston, I decided to take I-95 through Philadelphia since I'd never been through PA before. This was in 1996, long before GPS and long before the missing link between the Delaware Expressway and the PA Turnpike at current Exit 40. Of course, like so many others, I was mystified as to why two critical highway links weren't connected, and I ended up following 95 to its mysterious ending near Princeton and then taking 295 and 195 back to the NJ Turnpike. No longer a problem.
1. Remember the era prior to automated toll collection?
Yes. I remember seeing signs for a toll plaza and then realize that I had to get my wallet out of my pocket to fish out the cash while downshifting the manual transmission of my car at the time (in case I had forgotten to sort out the money beforehand). I would try to find the lane that had the fewest vehicles, but longer lines did give me more time to look for the cash.
Of course, even after I got my EZPass transponder in late 1999, that didn't solve all of the problems, because a lot of the highways I traveled at the time were only beginning to transition to EZPass. And even then, some toll plazas and interchanges had EZPass lanes, some didn't, etc. Thus, I still needed some cash on hand. By 2001-02, all toll highways in the northeast that I know of had some electronic toll collection. But since cash was still accepted and EZPass had few dedicated express lanes, and available lanes weren't always in the best locations, you weren't saved from sitting in traffic. And for weekends and holidays.....uy.
Quote from: jmacswimmer on December 28, 2022, 01:45:13 PM
I discovered when flying internationally in October that mobile boarding passes aren't allowed due to the need to have your passport verified at check-in
This is not universally true. When I flew in March, it was international. My companion did mobile boarding passes both ways, including ICT→DFW→MTY.
But, considering you've said elsewhere that Southwest is your go-to airline, then yeah, you're out of luck there.
Quote from: https://www.southwest.com/help/day-of-travel/mobile-boarding-pass-information
Mobile boarding passes aren't currently available for international flights.
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 28, 2022, 01:47:43 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on December 28, 2022, 01:45:13 PM
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I was more-so thinking of concerts & sporting events thru Ticketmaster & other similar sites where mobile ticketing is the only option these days.
When we go to hockey games I often wonder how people who don't have smartphones get in.
I guess that goes back to this thread from last year. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=30258.msg2665118#msg2665118)
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 02:07:02 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on December 28, 2022, 01:45:13 PM
I discovered when flying internationally in October that mobile boarding passes aren't allowed due to the need to have your passport verified at check-in
This is not universally true. When I flew in March, it was international. My companion did mobile boarding passes both ways, including ICT→DFW→MTY.
But, considering you've said elsewhere that Southwest is your go-to airline, then yeah, you're out of luck there.
Quote from: https://www.southwest.com/help/day-of-travel/mobile-boarding-pass-information
Mobile boarding passes aren't currently available for international flights.
Ah, yes, I did indeed speak out of turn then assuming my international experience with Southwest in October must be true universally. The only other time I've flown internationally was with United in 2017, and I just printed a paper boarding pass while checking my bags and don't recall whether United supported international mobile boarding passes at the time.
I remember when I-95 was incomplete between Virginia and Florida.
I-95 from Emporia, VA to Petersburg was four lane US 301.
The missing link from Kenly to Gold Rock I remember as well as the missing link that is become the Fayetteville Bypass.
Plus a long segment from Walterboro to Santee was memorable. Even driving US 17 when it was a four lane arterial before it became the I-95 and US 17 freeway north of Ridgeland.
Then using the Talmadge Bridge ( the old two lane cantilever) because I-95 was missing between I-16 in Pooler, GA to Hardeeville, SC. In addition I-95 from South Newport to Richmond Hill was missing and the section of I-95 from Woodbine to Brunswick was a trip on US 17 and GA 303 to circumvent.
1. Remember when FYAs were something everyone, including on this forum, hated?
Now it seems like most people are in favor of them. The hatred has shifted from the FYA to the HAWK instead.
2. Remember when Amazon was an online bookstore?
As I type this post, I'm wearing a pair of pants made by Amazon.
A couple ones for Virginia Tech fans.
1. Remember when there was still a stoplight on US 460 at Southgate Dr (VA 314) instead of an interchange.
I doubt any freshmen going to VT now can even imagine that there was a signal there as late as five years ago.
2. Remember when Virginia Tech was good at football.
:banghead:
Remember when CA 99 was an expressway with at-grade intersections between Merced-Chowchilla until 2016?
Remember when there was a handful of new cars available for under 10k a couple years ago?
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 03:09:16 PM
1. Remember when FYAs were something everyone, including on this forum, hated?
Now it seems like most people are in favor of them. The hatred has shifted from the FYA to the HAWK instead.
2. Remember when Amazon was an online bookstore?
As I type this post, I'm wearing a pair of pants made by Amazon.
I never hated FYAs. I will fight every HAWK installation I can, though.
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 03:09:16 PM
1. Remember when FYAs were something everyone, including on this forum, hated?
Now it seems like most people are in favor of them. The hatred has shifted from the FYA to the HAWK instead.
2. Remember when Amazon was an online bookstore?
As I type this post, I'm wearing a pair of pants made by Amazon.
Made by, or sold by?
Quote from: kkt on December 28, 2022, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 03:09:16 PM
1. Remember when FYAs were something everyone, including on this forum, hated?
Now it seems like most people are in favor of them. The hatred has shifted from the FYA to the HAWK instead.
2. Remember when Amazon was an online bookstore?
As I type this post, I'm wearing a pair of pants made by Amazon.
Made by, or sold by?
Made by. They are Amazon Essentials brand.
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 04:30:01 PM
Quote from: kkt on December 28, 2022, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 03:09:16 PM
1. Remember when FYAs were something everyone, including on this forum, hated?
Now it seems like most people are in favor of them. The hatred has shifted from the FYA to the HAWK instead.
2. Remember when Amazon was an online bookstore?
As I type this post, I'm wearing a pair of pants made by Amazon.
Made by, or sold by?
Made by. They are Amazon Essentials brand.
Amazon Essentials might be my favorite pants brand. Not only are they more affordable than other brands, I also find them quite comfortable.
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 28, 2022, 01:47:43 PM
When we go to hockey games I often wonder how people who don't have smartphones get in.
My co-worker has a partial season-ticket package for the Detroit Red Wings, and she steadfastly (and pridefully) refuses to give up her flip phone. She had to badger her ticket rep to issue her tickets on paper for the entire season. The ticket rep got her back by refusing to mail them and making her come downtown to the arena ticket office to pick them up.
Remember when cars had bias-ply tires instead of radials? (OK, this might be stretching the roadgeek aspect of it).
Remember when home residential telephones had party lines?
Remember when I-95 in the Richmond area had tolls and sequential exit numbers?
Remember when restaurants had smoking sections?
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 04:30:01 PM
Quote from: kkt on December 28, 2022, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 03:09:16 PM
1. Remember when FYAs were something everyone, including on this forum, hated?
Now it seems like most people are in favor of them. The hatred has shifted from the FYA to the HAWK instead.
2. Remember when Amazon was an online bookstore?
As I type this post, I'm wearing a pair of pants made by Amazon.
Made by, or sold by?
Made by. They are Amazon Essentials brand.
That doesn't necessarily mean they
made them, though.
According to this (https://onezero.medium.com/amazon-finally-reveals-who-makes-its-branded-products-13e68913c770), which is admittedly from 2019, Amazon Essentials clothing seems to be manufactured in a number of contracted factories in Antananarivo.
Still, I suppose it could just be the difference between "made for" and "made by."
Quote from: vegas1962 on December 28, 2022, 04:48:44 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 28, 2022, 01:47:43 PM
When we go to hockey games I often wonder how people who don't have smartphones get in.
My co-worker has a partial season-ticket package for the Detroit Red Wings, and she steadfastly (and pridefully) refuses to give up her flip phone. She had to badger her ticket rep to issue her tickets on paper for the entire season. The ticket rep got her back by refusing to mail them and making her come downtown to the arena ticket office to pick them up.
Did it for years and years as a Hartford Whalers season ticket holding family and paper tickets, so smartphones were never an option. My dad did bring the tickets to the wrong game once, and we were denied entry. Wasn't the worst thing that happened that night to me. I had to witness the whole Bill Buckner sequence a few hours later.
I remember when tolls on the Garden State Parkway were a quarter.
I remember the NJ Turnpike was $ 2.70 end to end.
I remember the PA/NYNJ charged $4 in the eighties.
The Queens- Midtown Tunnel was $2.25 in 1987.
I remember the Fuller Warren Bridge on I-95 in Jacksonville had a 20 cents toll to cross it.
I remember I-78 ended in Watchung at Drift Road with the signs on I-287 in Bedminster signing the EB exit for I-78 as Local Traffic and not I-78 to keep through traffic off the road.
I remember the Phillipsburg-Easton Toll Bridge was only a nickel on US 22.
I remember the old text signs on the PA Turnpike still signing Willow Grove as US 611 in 1982. Plus Willow Hill was signed as Route 75 and not PA 75. Hagerstown and Chambersburg were both signed as EB control cities for former Exit 14 as:
Chambersburg
Hagerstown
VIA Route 75
on the 1 mile and Next Right Signs.
The 2 mile and at exit guides were:
Route 75
Willow Hill
The Penn Turnpike used exit names on 2 mile and at exit guides and the control cities on 1 mile and next right signs VIA the route numbers. US routes were US x and PA designations were Route x.
PennDOT, ScDOT, and FDOT used Next Right at exit ramps on interstates. Of course now the MUTCD forced them to conform to arrows. Nonetheless some Next Rights still remain in Florida though.
Oh yes and US 209 South for Snydersville on I-80 WB in Stroudsburg, PA was Exit 46S despite Exit 46N was 3 miles away for Bartonsville. That was to keep US 209 uniform with PA 33 SB going EB as both end up in Snydersville. Plus having no WB Exit 47, keeps both Exit 46s in sequence on the WB side.
Quote from: Takumi on December 28, 2022, 08:42:10 PM
Remember when restaurants had smoking sections?
My mom was working at the Cracker Barrel in Chester when they had to remove theirs by law.
Quote from: webny99 on December 28, 2022, 11:12:50 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 28, 2022, 11:10:49 AM
Remember when Michigan was commonly thought to have the worst roads in the country?
Isn't that still the case? New Mexico is the only state I've consistently heard in the conversation as being as bad or worse.
Not as much anymore but there is still work to do.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on December 28, 2022, 11:21:28 AM
Michigan's roads are still terrible.
According to this list Michigan isn't even on the list.
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/us-road-conditions.html
I'd say Michigan is somewhere in the middle.
Quote from: Takumi on December 28, 2022, 08:42:10 PM
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Remember when restaurants had smoking sections?
I remember stopping at a Hardee's in Kenansville, North Carolina, in 1996. That's farming country and there are still some tobacco farmers around. The Hardee's had one table designated as non-smoking, so I sat there. You would have thought I was a toad rapist or something the way the locals looked at me when I sat at that particular table.
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 29, 2022, 06:50:19 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on December 28, 2022, 11:21:28 AM
Michigan's roads are still terrible.
According to this list Michigan isn't even on the list.
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/us-road-conditions.html
I'd say Michigan is somewhere in the middle.
That link is not Wallethub; therefore, your argument is invalid.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on December 29, 2022, 09:16:49 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 29, 2022, 06:50:19 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on December 28, 2022, 11:21:28 AM
Michigan's roads are still terrible.
According to this list Michigan isn't even on the list.
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/us-road-conditions.html
I'd say Michigan is somewhere in the middle.
That link is not Wallethub; therefore, your argument is invalid.
Does the wrath of Wallethubism even extend as far as Michigan? I thought that was religious movement solely targeted against Wisconsin?
I would say having recently experienced two Hawaiian islands that I would have it in my top ten worst road condition states. I suppose it comes with the territory when so many roads are beholden (or were) to Federal Aid programs. Trying to sort out where/when State Highways in Hawaiis exist versus County maintained stock is quite the challenge. If anything invalidates that list is the omission of New Mexico from the top ten.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 29, 2022, 09:30:30 AM
Does the wrath of Wallethubism even extend as far as Michigan? I thought that was religious movement solely targeted against Wisconsin?
This is anti-several states, but Michigan is listed:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=30421.msg2749157#msg2749157
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Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on June 22, 2022, 03:13:03 PM
Since Wallethub is irrefutable, this is not up for debate. 2022's Best & Worst States for Summer Road Trips
2. Minnesota
15. Iowa
16. Michigan
18. Wisconsin
32. Illinois
Sorry. Wallethub has spoken. Illinois is not a premier road trip destination, and Michigan, Wisconsin, and Iowa are all better. And Illinois is still flat too.
Looks like the costs metric really impacted the overall ranking. If you sort it by activities or even safety...IL beats those other states.
(credit to WolframAlpha for Unix time conversions to get the time right for the quotes, since the thread is locked)
Quote from: kurumi on December 28, 2022, 01:35:16 PM
1. Remember when US 1 was red (http://us%201%20was%20red)?
2. Remember when Bill Gates was (mainly) reviled by the left and well-regarded by the right?
I've always reviled Bill Gates, regardless. I think you may be mistaking 'liberals' for the left, anyway. Also, Steve Jobs and Tim Cook suck, too. Totally ruined Unix. :poke:
Quote from: 74/171FAN on December 29, 2022, 06:39:19 AM
Quote from: Takumi on December 28, 2022, 08:42:10 PM
Remember when restaurants had smoking sections?
My mom was working at the Cracker Barrel in Chester when they had to remove theirs by law.
1995 I was working in a Papa Gino's that had to get rid of their smoking section due to a town by-law prohibiting it. I feel most places pre-2000 got rid of smoking sections by law rather than by choice.
Quote from: hbelkins on December 28, 2022, 07:13:32 PM
Remember when home residential telephones had party lines?
In rural PA that was still in effect in the 80's. Also GTE was the phone company at least in Somerset County.
I wonder if anyone remembers nickle pay phones in Louisiana.
Quote from: Takumi on December 28, 2022, 08:42:10 PM
Remember when I-95 in the Richmond area had tolls and sequential exit numbers?
Remember when restaurants had smoking sections?
I remember flying when airlines had smoking sections in back. I also remember even earlier when passengers could smoke anywhere on the plane.
I remember Interstate 5 in southern San Diego County being 4 and 5 lanes south of 24th Street in National City and the wonderful tailends every weekend. There was also a black sign in Spanish indicating H Street as the junction for the Chula Vista Shopping centre, northbound.
There was also a very tall bridge for Palm Avenue over Interstate 5, which was replaced with a lower level crossing in the rebuild in the early 70's
I remember when I-4 in Orlando area was more rural than suburban and there was no choke point between US 192 and US 27.
I remember when Busch Gardens Tampa Bay was not a theme park, but a bird garden and safari with a couple attractions including a train ride. You paid your admission at the parking gate, with its parking adjacent to the park and not across the street like it is now. Oh yes the escalator up to the now defunct brewery of Anheiser Busch that was in the middle of the park.
Quote from: 74/171FAN on December 29, 2022, 06:39:19 AM
Quote from: Takumi on December 28, 2022, 08:42:10 PM
Remember when restaurants had smoking sections?
My mom was working at the Cracker Barrel in Chester when they had to remove theirs by law.
I remember for awhile the law in Virginia said you could only have a smoking section in a restaurant if it was physically separated from the rest of the restaurant and had its own ventilation system. The last time I was in a restaurant with a smoking area was around 2012, at a pub in Short Pump.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on December 28, 2022, 11:24:12 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 04:30:01 PM
Quote from: kkt on December 28, 2022, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 03:09:16 PM
1. Remember when FYAs were something everyone, including on this forum, hated?
Now it seems like most people are in favor of them. The hatred has shifted from the FYA to the HAWK instead.
2. Remember when Amazon was an online bookstore?
As I type this post, I'm wearing a pair of pants made by Amazon.
Made by, or sold by?
Made by. They are Amazon Essentials brand.
That doesn't necessarily mean they made them, though.
According to this (https://onezero.medium.com/amazon-finally-reveals-who-makes-its-branded-products-13e68913c770), which is admittedly from 2019, Amazon Essentials clothing seems to be manufactured in a number of contracted factories in Antananarivo.
Still, I suppose it could just be the difference between "made for" and "made by."
Yeah, I mean, by that argument, my Lee jeans aren't necessarily made by Lee either, considering they contract with other factories.
Quote from: Takumi on December 29, 2022, 12:26:10 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on December 29, 2022, 06:39:19 AM
Quote from: Takumi on December 28, 2022, 08:42:10 PM
Remember when restaurants had smoking sections?
My mom was working at the Cracker Barrel in Chester when they had to remove theirs by law.
I remember for awhile the law in Virginia said you could only have a smoking section in a restaurant if it was physically separated from the rest of the restaurant and had its own ventilation system. The last time I was in a restaurant with a smoking area was around 2012, at a pub in Short Pump.
Kentucky doesn't have a statewide smoking ban or, to my knowledge, even a law requiring ventilation for smoking and non-smoking sections to be separate. Of course, given Kentucky's history as a tobacco-producing state, there are some oddities in Kentucky statutes, including classifying smokers as a protected class for employment matters. It's not legal to advertise job vacancies that specify non-smokers, even if you are an entity that works against drug abuse and offers smoking cessation courses/materials.
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 29, 2022, 07:41:18 AM
Quote from: Takumi on December 28, 2022, 08:42:10 PM
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Remember when restaurants had smoking sections?
I remember stopping at a Hardee's in Kenansville, North Carolina, in 1996. That's farming country and there are still some tobacco farmers around. The Hardee's had one table designated as non-smoking, so I sat there. You would have thought I was a toad rapist or something the way the locals looked at me when I sat at that particular table.
What was even the point of having a non-smoking table, if it was surrounded by a smoking section?
I remember being surprised several years ago going to a Gold Star Chili location in Maysville that allowed smoking, and the smell of smoke was just as strong in the non-smoking section as it was the smoking section.
Quote from: kphoger on December 29, 2022, 02:12:54 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on December 28, 2022, 11:24:12 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 04:30:01 PM
Quote from: kkt on December 28, 2022, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 03:09:16 PM
1. Remember when FYAs were something everyone, including on this forum, hated?
Now it seems like most people are in favor of them. The hatred has shifted from the FYA to the HAWK instead.
2. Remember when Amazon was an online bookstore?
As I type this post, I'm wearing a pair of pants made by Amazon.
Made by, or sold by?
Made by. They are Amazon Essentials brand.
That doesn't necessarily mean they made them, though.
According to this (https://onezero.medium.com/amazon-finally-reveals-who-makes-its-branded-products-13e68913c770), which is admittedly from 2019, Amazon Essentials clothing seems to be manufactured in a number of contracted factories in Antananarivo.
Still, I suppose it could just be the difference between "made for" and "made by."
Yeah, I mean, by that argument, my Lee jeans aren't necessarily made by Lee either, considering they contract with other factories.
It's interesting that companies get a certain leeway in this respect, though, isn't it? If my aunt Millie said she had made some cookies, and it turns out that she had paid someone else to do it, I think that people would immediately dispute her claim.
As you point out, though, that's not necessarily what happens with companies. I wonder if it's because companies are a more abstract entity than individual people, or if it's not the companies themselves that are saying that they are manufacturing the items, but simply letting that be implied? Expectation might also play a role as well, since I know that Amazon doesn't manufacture anything, but I think, whether mistakenly or not, that Lee probably does.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on December 29, 2022, 03:38:24 PM
It's interesting that companies get a certain leeway in this respect, though, isn't it? If my aunt Millie said she had made some cookies, and it turns out that she had paid someone else to do it, I think that people would immediately dispute her claim.
As you point out, though, that's not necessarily what happens with companies. I wonder if it's because companies are a more abstract entity than individual people ...
Right. A company isn't a person.
When your aunt says she made a batch of cookies, you assume she used her own oven and knowhow at the very least–and probably either her own recipe, someone else's recipe she's trying out, or a brand of box mix that she trusts–and furthermore that the batch has passed her own standards of quality, or else she wouldn't be offering them to you.
When a company puts its label on a product, the only assumption I make is that it passed the company's own standards of quality
for that particular line of products. I make no assumptions about where it was manufactured, who designed it, or even necessarily how it compares to other product lines sold by the same company.
Remember when US 33 through Greene County was 2 lanes?
Remember when each Big 4 Sport League didn't exist and was split?
Remember when Interstate shields were not neutered.
Remember pre-printed airline destination tags.
I remember when US 15 in Gettysburg was a Super Two.
I remember when Hersheypark charged no admission to enter the park ( rides were purchased in ticket booths like carnivals and no unlimited) and the Chocolate Factory offered tours instead of the Chocolate World Attraction.
I remember when the Allouez-Ashwaubenon Bridge, WI 172, opened and I could get away with riding my bicycle across it to Bay Park Square.
Quote from: skluth on December 29, 2022, 06:17:53 PM
I remember when the Allouez-Ashwaubenon Bridge, WI 172, opened and I could get away with riding my bicycle across it to Bay Park Square.
Bay Park Square was just Montgomery Ward when the bridge opened.
Remember when many exits in CA were unnumbered?
Remember when manual transmissions in cars were 4- and 5-speeds, and automatic transmissions were 3- and 4-speeds?
Quote from: Henry on December 29, 2022, 07:13:52 PM
Remember when many exits in CA were unnumbered?
The Ojai Freeway must be Pepperidge Farms:
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Quote from: Takumi on December 28, 2022, 08:42:10 PM
Remember when restaurants had smoking sections?
When Minnesota banned indoor smoking about 20 years ago, there was a clause excepting smoking as part of a theater performance. So some disgruntled townie bars in rural Minnesota tried planning "theater nights" in their establishments to get around the ban. Needless to say they didn't get away with it for long.
The Perkins I grew up near had a smoking section. I was still young then, but I think they removed it before indoor smoking was formally banned in the state.
Quote from: Otto Yamamoto on December 29, 2022, 11:36:21 AM
Quote from: kurumi on December 28, 2022, 01:35:16 PM
1. Remember when US 1 was red (http://us%201%20was%20red)?
2. Remember when Bill Gates was (mainly) reviled by the left and well-regarded by the right?
I've always reviled Bill Gates, regardless. I think you may be mistaking 'liberals' for the left, anyway. Also, Steve Jobs and Tim Cook suck, too. Totally ruined Unix. :poke:
I dunno if they
totally ruined it. The shell is still there, so you can work around most of the kludges Apple introduced. When a friend of mine was forced to use OS X at work, the batshit insane GUI motivated her to learn bash, and I would periodically send her care packages in the form of Perl scripts to help her actually get her job done. When she left that job, the trauma of that experience ended up converting her into a Linux user (I guess once you get a taste of Unix shell you can't ever really go back to an environment without it).
I actually saw a study recently that said that Linux use is up to 40% among software developers, so Unix is alive and well, even if OS X is in the toilet.
Quote from: Henry on December 29, 2022, 07:13:52 PM
Remember when manual transmissions in cars were 4- and 5-speeds, and automatic transmissions were 3- and 4-speeds?
I grew up in the 90s, so almost every manual was a 5-speed by then, and 6-speeds were only seen in a handful of sports cars. Most automatics were 4-speed, with some companies (Toyota, GM) keeping 3-speeds around until 2001.
Quote from: Takumi on December 29, 2022, 09:20:35 PM
Quote from: Henry on December 29, 2022, 07:13:52 PM
Remember when manual transmissions in cars were 4- and 5-speeds, and automatic transmissions were 3- and 4-speeds?
I grew up in the 90s, so almost every manual was a 5-speed by then, and 6-speeds were only seen in a handful of sports cars. Most automatics were 4-speed, with some companies (Toyota, GM) keeping 3-speeds around until 2001.
Remember when two speed Power Glide style transmissions was something common in the auto industry?
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 29, 2022, 09:32:30 PM
Quote from: Takumi on December 29, 2022, 09:20:35 PM
Quote from: Henry on December 29, 2022, 07:13:52 PM
Remember when manual transmissions in cars were 4- and 5-speeds, and automatic transmissions were 3- and 4-speeds?
I grew up in the 90s, so almost every manual was a 5-speed by then, and 6-speeds were only seen in a handful of sports cars. Most automatics were 4-speed, with some companies (Toyota, GM) keeping 3-speeds around until 2001.
Remember when two speed Power Glide style transmissions was something common in the auto industry?
No (even my dad's oldest car as a kid, a 1964.5 Mustang, had a 3-speed), but Powerglides are still used in drag racing to this day.
I dunno if they totally ruined it. The shell is still there, so you can work around most of the kludges Apple introduced. When a friend of mine was forced to use OS X at work, the batshit insane GUI motivated her to learn bash, and I would periodically send her care packages in the form of Perl scripts to help her actually get her job done. When she left that job, the trauma of that experience ended up converting her into a Linux user (I guess once you get a taste of Unix shell you can't ever really go back to an environment without it).
I actually saw a study recently that said that Linux use is up to 40% among software developers, so Unix is alive and well, even if OS X is in the toilet.
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Linux is pretty tight these days, it's been my daily driver for 20 years now. I use a Chromebook for work, it's spiffy and fast.
Remember when roadgeeking was something nobody else was interested in?
Then came the internet.
Remember when research was done at the library?
Then came the internet.
I always felt recreational driving was definitely a more common thing before the Internet era. Or rather, a lot more normal people did things like overland road trips that relied on things like maps and not always taking an Interstate.
I don't feel until maybe this last decade that the internet has truly replaced things library research. There are plenty of databases now, but it was close to impossible to find decent sources to cite even a decade ago.
Quote from: hbelkins on December 29, 2022, 02:16:42 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 29, 2022, 07:41:18 AM
I remember stopping at a Hardee's in Kenansville, North Carolina, in 1996. That's farming country and there are still some tobacco farmers around. The Hardee's had one table designated as non-smoking, so I sat there. You would have thought I was a toad rapist or something the way the locals looked at me when I sat at that particular table.
What was even the point of having a non-smoking table, if it was surrounded by a smoking section?
....
I assume (this is only a guess) that there was probably a state law requiring a non-smoking "section" and that designating one table was their way of complying with it while subtly giving the State the middle finger.
Quote from: Big John on December 29, 2022, 06:24:51 PM
Quote from: skluth on December 29, 2022, 06:17:53 PM
I remember when the Allouez-Ashwaubenon Bridge, WI 172, opened and I could get away with riding my bicycle across it to Bay Park Square.
Bay Park Square was just Montgomery Ward when the bridge opened.
You're right. I was riding my bike from Allouez to the Prangeway store in the Green Bay Plaza at Military and Mason where I had a temp job for a few weeks but I could have taken the Mason St Bridge for that so I used what I thought was a good reference landmark. I honestly don't remember when Bay Park Square went in but it was there when I got out of the Navy in 1985.
Quote from: Takumi on December 29, 2022, 09:20:35 PM
Quote from: Henry on December 29, 2022, 07:13:52 PM
Remember when manual transmissions in cars were 4- and 5-speeds, and automatic transmissions were 3- and 4-speeds?
I grew up in the 90s, so almost every manual was a 5-speed by then, and 6-speeds were only seen in a handful of sports cars. Most automatics were 4-speed, with some companies (Toyota, GM) keeping 3-speeds around until 2001.
My first car, a 1977 Ford Granada, had what in practical terms was a four on the floor, but the gears were marked as three speeds plus an "overdrive" gear. For all realistic purposes, it was a 4-speed manual. Every car I've had since then has been either a 5- or 6-speed.
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 30, 2022, 11:33:27 AM
Quote from: Takumi on December 29, 2022, 09:20:35 PM
Quote from: Henry on December 29, 2022, 07:13:52 PM
Remember when manual transmissions in cars were 4- and 5-speeds, and automatic transmissions were 3- and 4-speeds?
I grew up in the 90s, so almost every manual was a 5-speed by then, and 6-speeds were only seen in a handful of sports cars. Most automatics were 4-speed, with some companies (Toyota, GM) keeping 3-speeds around until 2001.
My first car, a 1977 Ford Granada, had what in practical terms was a four on the floor, but the gears were marked as three speeds plus an "overdrive" gear. For all realistic purposes, it was a 4-speed manual. Every car I've had since then has been either a 5- or 6-speed.
I can do you one better. I remember reading an article about the C5 Corvette that came out in 1983, but as an '84 model, and it had what was called a "4+3" transmission. It was named that not because it had 7 speeds despite the designation suggesting otherwise, but there was an overdrive for the last three gears. Even I was confused by the name until I sat in one equipped with such, and looked down at the shifter. I think it was late in the same generation that the Corvette would get a 6-speed (and probably become the first American car ever to have one), because it also received a facelift around that time.
Quote from: Henry on December 30, 2022, 07:23:04 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 30, 2022, 11:33:27 AM
Quote from: Takumi on December 29, 2022, 09:20:35 PM
Quote from: Henry on December 29, 2022, 07:13:52 PM
Remember when manual transmissions in cars were 4- and 5-speeds, and automatic transmissions were 3- and 4-speeds?
I grew up in the 90s, so almost every manual was a 5-speed by then, and 6-speeds were only seen in a handful of sports cars. Most automatics were 4-speed, with some companies (Toyota, GM) keeping 3-speeds around until 2001.
My first car, a 1977 Ford Granada, had what in practical terms was a four on the floor, but the gears were marked as three speeds plus an "overdrive" gear. For all realistic purposes, it was a 4-speed manual. Every car I've had since then has been either a 5- or 6-speed.
I can do you one better. I remember reading an article about the C5 Corvette that came out in 1983, but as an '84 model, and it had what was called a "4+3" transmission. It was named that not because it had 7 speeds despite the designation suggesting otherwise, but there was an overdrive for the last three gears. Even I was confused by the name until I sat in one equipped with such, and looked down at the shifter. I think it was late in the same generation that the Corvette would get a 6-speed (and probably become the first American car ever to have one), because it also received a facelift around that time.
1989 is when the Corvette started using the 6-speed, which was built by German firm ZF. Not many cars had a 6-speed at all before then, mostly exotics. In the 90s a lot of flagship cars got one: the BMW 8-series got one in 1990, while the Acura Legend, Mitsubishi 3000GT, and Toyota Supra got one in 1993.
Quote from: 1 on December 29, 2022, 09:37:50 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 29, 2022, 09:30:30 AM
Does the wrath of Wallethubism even extend as far as Michigan? I thought that was religious movement solely targeted against Wisconsin?
This is anti-several states, but Michigan is listed:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=30421.msg2749157#msg2749157
Quote from: Crash_It on June 23, 2022, 12:39:01 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on June 22, 2022, 03:13:03 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on June 22, 2022, 03:13:03 PM
Since Wallethub is irrefutable, this is not up for debate. 2022's Best & Worst States for Summer Road Trips
2. Minnesota
15. Iowa
16. Michigan
18. Wisconsin
32. Illinois
Sorry. Wallethub has spoken. Illinois is not a premier road trip destination, and Michigan, Wisconsin, and Iowa are all better. And Illinois is still flat too.
Looks like the costs metric really impacted the overall ranking. If you sort it by activities or even safety...IL beats those other states.
(credit to WolframAlpha for Unix time conversions to get the time right for the quotes, since the thread is locked)
Thank you, I found use for this on a certain Anti-Wisconsinite's page off forum.
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 03:09:16 PM
1. Remember when FYAs were something everyone, including on this forum, hated?
Now it seems like most people are in favor of them. The hatred has shifted from the FYA to the HAWK instead.
As a night-time delivery driver, I started finding more possibilites to.. more or less turn left on red, thus speeding my zipping about town.
I went through the stages.
1. Hated them because I didn't understand them.
2. Started to understand them.
3. Embraced them.
4. Crave them.
Remember when the Thruway had tollbooths?
Yes it only happened a couple years ago, but I remember finally taking a road trip in 2021 after the worst of the pandemic, and I was like "Where are the toll booths?" right around where the ones near Exit 50 used to be.
Remember when Maxemillian de Robespierre was executed in 1790s France?
Neither do I.
Quote from: kirbykart on December 31, 2022, 08:52:08 AM
Remember when the Thruway had tollbooths?
Yes it only happened a couple years ago, but I remember finally taking a road trip in 2021 after the worst of the pandemic, and I was like "Where are the toll booths?" right around where the ones near Exit 50 used to be.
Remember when Maxemillian de Robespierre was executed in 1790s France?
Neither do I.
I don't know. It was in all the papers. . . .
Because I'm only 20 what I have to say won't be nearly as interesting for most people on the forum, but here goes:
Remember when North Carolina still had tons of freeways with original or very old concrete pavement?
As a child, shortly after moving to NC, I remember tons of freeways on drives I took part in still having the original or really old pavement. I fell asleep on many drives with my parents to the continuous thunking of the concrete segments. Since, most of them have been replaced, I assume due to the state's population boom which happened shortly after I arrived.
Remember when you had to turn your tube TV to channel 2 or 3 to hook up a video game or a DVD player?
And if there was nothing hooked up, it'd just be a big blue screen of nothing. I had a Magnavox CRT TV made in 1996 up until 2014 or so in my bedroom at my parents' house. My father had built a big ass table just to support the thing. It's nostalgic, but man did it suck having those take up so much space.
I remember playing with the static/always getting shocked as a kid. One thing I'd like to do was gather a bunch of dust on my fingers and watch it fly back and forth between my fingers and the glass or just jump all over the place. Many memories were made playing games on the PS2 with my friends when I wasn't much younger than 6 or 7. There was a time when those TVs were considered junk and you couldn't even sell them to someone for a dollar. Now they're fetching 200 bucks on eBay for being "vintage".
Quote from: index on December 31, 2022, 06:18:43 PM
Remember when you had to turn your tube TV to channel 2 or 3 to hook up a video game or a DVD player?
And if there was nothing hooked up, it'd just be a big blue screen of nothing.
Heh, our TV displayed static on channels 2 and 3 since it was analog. Some markets actually had broadcasts on 2 or 3, but OKC's lowest channel is 4.
Remember when video game console A/V inputs had to be screwed into the back your TV and had a tendency to spark?
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 31, 2022, 06:51:18 PM
Remember when video game console A/V inputs had to be screwed into the back your TV and had a tendency to spark?
I didn't have a console in those days, so I'll answer with what equivalent was for me–remember when you had to exit Windows to play a video game?
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 31, 2022, 06:54:17 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 31, 2022, 06:51:18 PM
Remember when video game console A/V inputs had to be screwed into the back your TV and had a tendency to spark?
I didn't have a console in those days, so I'll answer with what equivalent was for me–remember when you had to exit Windows to play a video game?
Remember when you had to look up keywords in the instruction books to text adventure games to get them to launch?
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 31, 2022, 06:47:54 PM
Quote from: index on December 31, 2022, 06:18:43 PM
Remember when you had to turn your tube TV to channel 2 or 3 to hook up a video game or a DVD player?
And if there was nothing hooked up, it'd just be a big blue screen of nothing.
Heh, our TV displayed static on channels 2 and 3 since it was analog. Some markets actually had broadcasts on 2 or 3, but OKC's lowest channel is 4.
Actually, I think it was channels 3 or 4 that could be used.
Philly had a Channel 3. So I had to hook it in to Channel 4.
Several ciites had a Channel 2, such as Baltimore.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 31, 2022, 07:05:15 PM
Several ciites had a Channel 2, such as Baltimore.
As in many major cities including New York, Chicago and Los Angeles.
Quote from: index on December 31, 2022, 06:18:43 PM
Remember when North Carolina still had tons of freeways with original or very old concrete pavement?
Yes, I remember that thunking sound on I-95 on our way to Myrtle Beach as a child. I'm 27, for the record.
Do you remember when US-60 freeway ended in Mesa and not in Apache Jct?
Do you remember severe thunderstorms and tornadoes (which are severe thunderstorms) were the only weather phenomena tagged for warnings by the NWS? (Of course, without internet, no idea about tropical cyclones)
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 31, 2022, 07:01:43 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 31, 2022, 06:54:17 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 31, 2022, 06:51:18 PM
Remember when video game console A/V inputs had to be screwed into the back your TV and had a tendency to spark?
I didn't have a console in those days, so I'll answer with what equivalent was for me–remember when you had to exit Windows to play a video game?
Remember when you had to look up keywords in the instruction books to text adventure games to get them to launch?
Heh.
Lemmings (which is my favorite old-school game) didn't have a save system. It just gave you a ten-letter code after every level, so when you were done for the day you would just write down the code. The next time you played you'd type in the code and it'd jump you to where you left off.
That game reminds me of another thing–remember when you couldn't just look up how to do parts of video games if you didn't know how to beat it? I got stuck on the 49th level (out of 120) of
Lemmings for something like five years when I was a kid. I finally figured it out...only to make it to level 53 and get stuck again.
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 31, 2022, 09:13:46 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 31, 2022, 07:01:43 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 31, 2022, 06:54:17 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 31, 2022, 06:51:18 PM
Remember when video game console A/V inputs had to be screwed into the back your TV and had a tendency to spark?
I didn't have a console in those days, so I'll answer with what equivalent was for me–remember when you had to exit Windows to play a video game?
Remember when you had to look up keywords in the instruction books to text adventure games to get them to launch?
Heh. Lemmings (which is my favorite old-school game) didn't have a save system. It just gave you a ten-letter code after every level, so when you were done for the day you would just write down the code. The next time you played you'd type in the code and it'd jump you to where you left off.
That game reminds me of another thing–remember when you couldn't just look up how to do parts of video games if you didn't know how to beat it? I got stuck on the 49th level (out of 120) of Lemmings for something like five years when I was a kid. I finally figured it out...only to make it to level 53 and get stuck again.
Try the Kings Quest puzzle involving somehow getting Ifnkovhgroghprm out of Rumplestiltskin. I have no idea to this day how the hell anyone was supposed to figure that out on their own with the clues provided in game. I want to say a friend at school told me what puzzle answer was and later versions of Kings Quest dumbed it down to something that could be solved. The solution as I understand it was to reverse the alphabet and figuring out what the name of Rumplestiltskin would be:
https://kingsquest.fandom.com/wiki/Rumplestiltskin
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/5sy9v5/til_the_original_kings_quest_in_one_of_the_most/
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on December 31, 2022, 08:34:35 AM
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 03:09:16 PM
1. Remember when FYAs were something everyone, including on this forum, hated?
Now it seems like most people are in favor of them. The hatred has shifted from the FYA to the HAWK instead.
As a night-time delivery driver, I started finding more possibilites to.. more or less turn left on red, thus speeding my zipping about town.
I went through the stages.
1. Hated them because I didn't understand them.
2. Started to understand them.
3. Embraced them.
4. Crave them.
I still prefer doghouses with green arrows and green balls to FYAs.
Where I live, I remember when Exit 6 on US 460 (the Bypass) where I am was just a traffic light instead of a diverging diamond interchange. The other road then, Southgate Drive, also just went strait and had no roundabouts back then, and now it has two of 'em.
I also remember when my school was on the other side of town from where it is now. They moved it a few years ago because the old building's roof collapsed after we got a bunch of snow one storm.
Quote from: AABattery on December 31, 2022, 10:24:12 PM
I also remember when my school was on the other side of town from where it is now. They moved it a few years ago because the old building's roof collapsed after we got a bunch of snow one storm.
Yeah, I heard all about that in my VT days.
Remember when we had reversible lanes on the I-90 bridge?
It's now been over 5 years since the reversible express lanes on I-90 between Seattle and Bellevue were closed to traffic.
Quote from: hbelkins on December 31, 2022, 10:16:04 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on December 31, 2022, 08:34:35 AM
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2022, 03:09:16 PM
1. Remember when FYAs were something everyone, including on this forum, hated?
Now it seems like most people are in favor of them. The hatred has shifted from the FYA to the HAWK instead.
As a night-time delivery driver, I started finding more possibilites to.. more or less turn left on red, thus speeding my zipping about town.
I went through the stages.
1. Hated them because I didn't understand them.
2. Started to understand them.
3. Embraced them.
4. Crave them.
I still prefer doghouses with green arrows and green balls to FYAs.
Different experiences, different feelings. We're all cool.
The thing that has gotten me to like the flashing yellow arrow is that, at least as they're implemented around here, they give more opportunities to turn than the doghouse signals did. At the light leaving my neighborhood, for example, if someone was coming from the other direction and tripped the light, but nobody was coming from my neighborhood's side, the other side would get both a green arrow and a green ball, but my side would stay fully red–if I drove up a few seconds late and wanted to go left, I'd have to wait for the next light cycle. Now, in that same situation but with a flashing yellow arrow, my side gets a flashing yellow arrow even if nobody's coming from my direction to have tripped the light. So that improves my chances of getting to turn left sooner if I don't get to the light at just the right moment.
Remember when NJ-18 was the way it was prior to its overhaul?
Remember when house prices weren't explosive?
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 31, 2022, 06:47:54 PM
Quote from: index on December 31, 2022, 06:18:43 PM
Remember when you had to turn your tube TV to channel 2 or 3 to hook up a video game or a DVD player?
And if there was nothing hooked up, it'd just be a big blue screen of nothing.
Heh, our TV displayed static on channels 2 and 3 since it was analog. Some markets actually had broadcasts on 2 or 3, but OKC's lowest channel is 4.
There was a Dilbert comic strip many years ago where the evil character Dogbert registered a USA federal copyright on the 'snow' that appeared on analog TVs when they were tuned to vacant channels.
Mike
Quote from: mgk920 on January 01, 2023, 12:12:17 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 31, 2022, 06:47:54 PM
Quote from: index on December 31, 2022, 06:18:43 PM
Remember when you had to turn your tube TV to channel 2 or 3 to hook up a video game or a DVD player?
And if there was nothing hooked up, it'd just be a big blue screen of nothing.
Heh, our TV displayed static on channels 2 and 3 since it was analog. Some markets actually had broadcasts on 2 or 3, but OKC's lowest channel is 4.
There was a Dilbert comic strip many years ago where the evil character Dogbert registered a USA federal copyright on the 'snow' that appeared on analog TVs when they were tuned to vacant channels.
Mike
The opening line of Gibson's
Neuromancer, 1984:
Quote
"The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel."
Back then: gray static.
20 years later, that would mean a deep blue with "HDMI 1" in the upper right corner.
Now, it would probably mean an ad courtesy of your Samsung TV.
Remember when Virginia had lots of cutout or white borders shields?
Remember when I-264 in Virginia Beach was VA 44?
Remember when the American Basketball Association was a viable major league?
Remember when the Washington Redskins were a very good team? (Mainly for 1995hoo as I was a diehard Redskin fan in the 1970's-early 1990's)
^I definitely remember the second one.
Quote from: amroad17 on January 02, 2023, 12:06:15 AM
Remember when Virginia had lots of cutout or white borders shields?
Yes. There used to be many in Madison/Orange Counties, especially at Gordonsville or Madison.
Used to be lots in Richmond too, as recently as a decade ago when I hosted a meet there and they were one of the features, and a few in Hopewell. Now the only one in the area is one carbon copied by Hopewell’s public works department around 2015.
Now if you remember when VA 44 was in Richmond and not Hampton Roads, you’re really old.
I remember when VA 31 concurred with VA 5 into Williamsburg.
I remember when Busch Gardens had a monorail to the Hospitality Center.
Remember when US 66 went through Winslow AZ? Remember when the Detroit Lions last contended for the Super Bowl? :bigass:
Quote from: skluth on January 02, 2023, 12:10:05 PM
Remember when US 66 went through Winslow AZ? Remember when the Detroit Lions last contended for the Super Bowl? :bigass:
I do, the 1992 season when they made it it the NFC Championship game and got blown out by the Redskins.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 02, 2023, 12:24:53 PM
Quote from: skluth on January 02, 2023, 12:10:05 PM
Remember when US 66 went through Winslow AZ? Remember when the Detroit Lions last contended for the Super Bowl? :bigass:
I do, the 1992 season when they made it it the NFC Championship game and got blown out by the Redskins.
That was the 1991 season, though the game you reference was played in 1992.
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 02, 2023, 02:29:25 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 02, 2023, 12:24:53 PM
Quote from: skluth on January 02, 2023, 12:10:05 PM
Remember when US 66 went through Winslow AZ? Remember when the Detroit Lions last contended for the Super Bowl? :bigass:
I do, the 1992 season when they made it it the NFC Championship game and got blown out by the Redskins.
That was the 1991 season, though the game you reference was played in 1992.
Sorry, yes the game was during January 1992. It was back during the era when my Dad was convinced Barry Sanders was going to lead the Lions eventually to a Super Bowl championship. Started out promising for sure but never really got past the heights of the 12-4 year and being blown out by the Joe Gibbs Redskins.
Remember when Busch Gardens in Williamsburg, VA was the "Old Country" and Busch Gardens in Tampa was the "Dark Continent" ?
Remember when I-95 wasn't built between Palm Beach Gardens and Fort Pierce in Florida?
https://goo.gl/maps/JNypMrUv3RPgfVmd7
When this overpass in the eighties was a concrete arch bridge.
When CT was Conn before the two digit postal abbreviation was used.
Quote from: kirbykart on December 31, 2022, 08:52:08 AM
Remember when the Thruway had tollbooths?
Yes it only happened a couple years ago, but I remember finally taking a road trip in 2021 after the worst of the pandemic, and I was like "Where are the toll booths?" right around where the ones near Exit 50 used to be.
Remember when Maxemillian de Robespierre was executed in 1790s France?
Neither do I.
No, but I remember a revolutionist named Maximilien Robespierre who was executed in the summer of 1794...
Quote from: kkt on January 02, 2023, 08:45:04 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on December 31, 2022, 08:52:08 AM
Remember when the Thruway had tollbooths?
Yes it only happened a couple years ago, but I remember finally taking a road trip in 2021 after the worst of the pandemic, and I was like "Where are the toll booths?" right around where the ones near Exit 50 used to be.
Remember when Maxemillian de Robespierre was executed in 1790s France?
Neither do I.
No, but I remember a revolutionist named Maximilien Robespierre who was executed in the summer of 1794...
I remember the killer robot Maximilian from the 1979 move The Black Hole (which also featured Maximilian Schell as Dr. Reinhardt).