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Title: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on December 29, 2022, 10:25:10 AM
The goal here is to make a list of all 3di in a specific state that are longer than its parent 2di in that state. For example, I-495 in New York State (71 miles) is longer the length of the stretch of I-95 that is in New York (24 miles). No fictional plans can be included here, only real, already existing, designated highways.

EDIT: One clarification. Both measurements are only in one state, the same state. For example, when I compared I-295 and I-95 in NJ, I didn't add on the PA stretch of 295, just the NJ stretch. A 3di that is longer than the 2di because it also goes off into other states doesn't count (although I-295 is still longer than I-95 just even with the Jersey section).

EDIT 2: Yes, the 2 digit one has to actually exist in the state in question. So no "I-238 is longer cause there's no I-38!!" type of posting, thank you!
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: 1995hoo on December 29, 2022, 10:31:47 AM
The most obvious one that immediately comes to mind is I-287 in New Jersey (67.54 miles) versus I-87 in New Jersey (zero miles, does not enter the state).
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on December 29, 2022, 10:41:06 AM
Actually, a good example in NJ is I-295 and I-95. I-295 is longer than I-95 by less than half a mile in the state of New Jersey (78.4 miles vs 77.96 miles). I'm not counting the western spur as additional miles for I-95 since we are measuring length and not total mileage of pavement. But no, both have to actually exist in the state.
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: hotdogPi on December 29, 2022, 10:45:19 AM
I-495 in MA (120 miles) vs. I-95 in MA (91 miles).
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on December 29, 2022, 10:53:35 AM
I-76 and I-676 in NJ might also fit this criteria.

(I-76 is 3.4 miles while I-676 is just under 5 miles in NJ).
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: jmacswimmer on December 29, 2022, 10:57:55 AM
I-295, I-395, & I-695 in DC (I-495 ties  :sombrero:)
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on December 29, 2022, 11:01:58 AM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on December 29, 2022, 10:57:55 AM
I-295, I-395, & I-695 in DC (I-495 ties  :sombrero:)

The other ones yeah, but 495 is technically mostly in Maryland and Virginia, outside of D.C. boundaries.

Edit: I-95 doesn't even enter D.C. so it doesn't fit these criteria. It goes around on the 495 capitol beltway.
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: hobsini2 on December 29, 2022, 11:03:22 AM
I-535 in Wisconsin at less than 1 mile vs 0 for I-35.
I-275 in Indiana at 3.2 miles vs 0 for I-75.
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on December 29, 2022, 11:11:51 AM
Quote from: hobsini2 on December 29, 2022, 11:03:22 AM
I-535 in Wisconsin at less than 1 mile vs 0 for I-35.
I-275 in Indiana at 3.2 miles vs 0 for I-75.

The 2di has to exist in the state LOL
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: JayhawkCO on December 29, 2022, 11:24:08 AM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on December 29, 2022, 11:01:58 AM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on December 29, 2022, 10:57:55 AM
I-295, I-395, & I-695 in DC (I-495 ties  :sombrero:)

The other ones yeah, but 495 is technically mostly in Maryland and Virginia, outside of D.C. boundaries.

Edit: I-95 doesn't even enter D.C. so it doesn't fit these criteria. It goes around on the 495 capitol beltway.

100% I-95 enters DC on the Wilson Bridge.
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on December 29, 2022, 11:29:32 AM
Oh it technically does. That must be the shortest stretch of interstate in any state (if you count D.C. as one). You have to zoom all the way in to see it but you're right.
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: SkyPesos on December 29, 2022, 11:36:23 AM
All x78 in NY.
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on December 29, 2022, 11:39:27 AM
Quote from: SkyPesos on December 29, 2022, 11:36:23 AM
All x78 in NY.

Good one, I'm surprised I didn't think of that one first. Although none of the x78s even connect to 78, but I guess that still counts (I-295 doesn't "connect" with I-95 in NJ but crosses over it).
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: JayhawkCO on December 29, 2022, 12:07:11 PM
I-269 in MS: 25.93 miles
I-69 in MS: 23.90 miles
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: Hunty2022 on December 29, 2022, 12:11:19 PM
Pretty sure I-587 in NC is longer than I-87 in NC currently is, but of course that will be changing someday.
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: MATraveler128 on December 29, 2022, 12:15:17 PM
I believe I-155 spends more time in Tennessee than its parent I-55 in the same state.
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: mgk920 on December 29, 2022, 12:16:11 PM
In that same light, I-535 in Superior, WI is most certainly longer than is I-35 here in Wisconsin.

Ditto I-129 v. I-29 in Nebraska.

Mike
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: vdeane on December 29, 2022, 12:45:31 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on December 29, 2022, 11:36:23 AM
All x78 in NY.
You might want to check on that.  I want to say I-878 is shorter.
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: CtrlAltDel on December 29, 2022, 12:50:31 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on December 29, 2022, 11:01:58 AM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on December 29, 2022, 10:57:55 AM
I-295, I-395, & I-695 in DC (I-495 ties  :sombrero:)

The other ones yeah, but 495 is technically mostly in Maryland and Virginia, outside of D.C. boundaries.

Edit: I-95 doesn't even enter D.C. so it doesn't fit these criteria. It goes around on the 495 capitol beltway.

Technically, I-95 enters DC. But also, technically, DC is not a state.



That said, using the data available here (https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/national_highway_system/interstate_highway_system/routefinder/table01.cfm), I have compiled the following list. I believe it's complete, although I wouldn't be surprised if I missed something.

I-195 (2.00 mi) in District of Columbia is longer than I-95 (0.11 mi).
I-295 (5.20 mi) in District of Columbia is longer than I-95 (0.11 mi).
I-395 (3.88 mi) in District of Columbia is longer than I-95 (0.11 mi).
I-495 (121.56 mi) in Massachusetts is longer than I-95 (91.95 mi).
I-269 (25.93 mi) in Mississippi is longer than I-69 (23.90 mi).
I-676 (4.75 mi) in New Jersey is longer than I-76 (3.04 mi).
I-278 (33.62 mi) in New York is longer than I-78 (0.50 mi).
I-478 (2.14 mi) in New York is longer than I-78 (0.50 mi).
I-495 (66.38 mi) in New York is longer than I-95 (23.50 mi).
I-678 (14.33 mi) in New York is longer than I-78 (0.50 mi).
I-878 (0.70 mi) in New York is longer than I-78 (0.50 mi).
I-587 (37.07 mi) in North Carolina is longer than I-87 (12.90 mi).
I-155 (15.93 mi) in Tennessee is longer than I-55 (12.28 mi).
I-269 (19.20 mi) in Tennessee is longer than I-69 (14.00 mi).
I-238 (2.23 mi) in California is longer than I-38, which does not exist.
I-275 (3.16 mi) in Indiana is longer than I-75, which does not exist there.
I-129 (3.21 mi) in Nebraska is longer than I-29, which does not exist there.
I-287 (67.54 mi) in New Jersey is longer than I-87, which does not exist there.
I-535 (1.21 mi) in Wisconsin is longer than I-35, which does not exist there.
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: 1995hoo on December 29, 2022, 12:53:20 PM
Does DC's "I-195" really count? It is not yet posted, or at least it wasn't as of my most recent trip to Union Station two weeks ago. I would probably count its mileage as part of I-395 and then count I-695 (which, as has been noted, is also longer than DC's portion of I-95).
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on December 29, 2022, 02:01:42 PM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on December 29, 2022, 12:11:19 PM
Pretty sure I-587 in NC is longer than I-87 in NC currently is, but of course that will be changing someday.

Yeah, and the same with I-76 in NJ. That may include the Atlantic City Expressway in the future, which would make it not fit this criteria, but we aren't considering fictional proposals here, just strictly what is designated now, even if the roadway is built but not designated yet.
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: hobsini2 on December 29, 2022, 02:08:45 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on December 29, 2022, 11:11:51 AM
Quote from: hobsini2 on December 29, 2022, 11:03:22 AM
I-535 in Wisconsin at less than 1 mile vs 0 for I-35.
I-275 in Indiana at 3.2 miles vs 0 for I-75.

The 2di has to exist in the state LOL
That was not one of the OP's criteria.
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: ilpt4u on December 29, 2022, 02:26:57 PM
At present, I-269 in TN and MS vs I-69
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: SkyPesos on December 29, 2022, 03:49:43 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 29, 2022, 12:45:31 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on December 29, 2022, 11:36:23 AM
All x78 in NY.
You might want to check on that.  I want to say I-878 is shorter.
Using Wiki's route lengths

I-78: 0.5 mi
I-478 (Battery Tunnel): 1.7 mi
I-878: 0.7 mi
I-278 and 678 are noticeably much longer than the other 3.
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: vdeane on December 29, 2022, 08:42:05 PM
I'm suspicious of that figure for I-78.  Being only half a mile long would put the eastern end before it re-emerges from below ground, which is inconsistent with what's depicted on the NHS map (https://hepgis.fhwa.dot.gov/fhwagis/).
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on December 31, 2022, 11:35:33 AM
I-78 in NY includes the roundabout after exiting the tunnel.
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: Flint1979 on January 03, 2023, 08:48:21 AM
You won't find any in Michigan. The longest 3di is I-196 and the shortest 2di is I-96. I-96 is 112 miles longer than I-196.
Title: Re: 3 Digit Interstates Longer Than 2 Digit Interstates In The Same State
Post by: 1995hoo on January 03, 2023, 08:51:26 AM
Quote from: hobsini2 on December 29, 2022, 02:08:45 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on December 29, 2022, 11:11:51 AM
Quote from: hobsini2 on December 29, 2022, 11:03:22 AM
I-535 in Wisconsin at less than 1 mile vs 0 for I-35.
I-275 in Indiana at 3.2 miles vs 0 for I-75.

The 2di has to exist in the state LOL
That was not one of the OP's criteria.

Notice he added that later. I at least had a plausible reason for citing an instance where the 2di doesn't enter the state, as at the time he had not clarified.