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Title: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: webny99 on February 22, 2023, 10:08:48 PM
Heading east out of the City of Rochester, Atlantic Ave becomes NY 286, at which point it changes names to Browncroft Blvd and widens to four lanes. Then, a few miles later, the name changes back to Atlantic Ave, also coinciding with a lane drop. I've often wondered if the name changing then changing back at these locations was intentional (2 lanes = avenue; 4 lanes = boulevard).

Are there any other examples of a continuous roadway dropping a name for a short distance only to pick it back up later? And do any of these examples similarly coincide with a lane drop or any other change in the road's character?
Title: Re: Discontinuous Road Names
Post by: Big John on February 22, 2023, 10:13:07 PM
I can think of a few examples in Milwaukee County WI.  First thoughts are 7th St, 27th St, Lovers Lane Rd mongst others.
Title: Re: Discontinuous Road Names
Post by: SD Mapman on February 22, 2023, 10:19:30 PM
I could see there being somewhere in Utah where depending on how the road meandered it could be "500 South" then "1420 West" then "670 North" or something like that lol.

I can't think of any examples specifically of what you're thinking of (Name 1 -> Name 2 -> Name 1) right now, but Rapid City, SD is notorious for having road names change somewhat randomly (my non-roadgeek parents will complain about it lol). The worst example is (going from east to west) East Omaha Street -> Omaha Street -> West Omaha Street -> West Chicago Street -> South Canyon Road -> Nemo Road (which then turns into Brownsville Road up near Lead/Deadwood).
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: webny99 on February 22, 2023, 10:24:20 PM
Yes, to be clear I'm thinking of cases where the same name recurs on the same road, but with at least one other name in between (thread title updated). There's many examples of roads where the name changes frequently, but we already have thread(s) for those.
Title: Re: Discontinuous Road Names
Post by: CoreySamson on February 22, 2023, 10:31:11 PM
This may be an example of something else entirely, Tulsa has a few major issues with discontinuous roads with some of the smaller streets. For example, Evanston Avenue exists as 20 discontinuous roads, which is kinda sucky for navigation.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: 7/8 on February 22, 2023, 10:54:04 PM
In Brampton, ON, Hurontario St becomes Main St between Bovaird and Steeles.

EDIT: Line 86 becomes Church St through Elmira, ON.
Title: Re: Discontinuous Road Names
Post by: US 89 on February 23, 2023, 01:17:10 AM
In Salt Lake City, 1300 East becomes Richmond Street for the six blocks between 27th and 33rd South while it meanders off its otherwise due north-south line.

There’s also Redwood Road not far to the south, which is officially Camp Williams Road in Bluffdale city limits and is signed as such on city-installed street blades. However, UDOT signs still just use Redwood, and that’s what everyone calls it anyway. “Camp Williams Road” will get you a bunch of blank stares if you try to use that in local conversation.

This kind of thing becomes quite common in rural areas where a street is numbered on some sort of county grid but then switches to a city grid number only while it’s inside a city limit. For example, 11200 North in Box Elder County becomes Main Street within Tremonton limits.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: SkyPesos on February 23, 2023, 01:26:28 AM
In the St Louis area, going southbound, Lindbergh Blvd (US 61/67) changes its name to Kirkwood Road at the junction with MO 100 and goes being a divided expressway to an undivided arterial. In downtown Kirkwood, it drops from 2 lanes per direction to 1 due to street parking. The "Lindbergh Blvd" name returns at around the junction with I-44, though it retains its stroady nature from Kirkwood (except an interchange with MO 366) southward.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: Flint1979 on February 23, 2023, 06:26:29 AM
There is a road on the Saginaw/Bay County line in the eastern part of both counties that has the name Wilshire Road, it for some reason changes to Webber Road, then back to Wilshire. Google Maps has it as Webber Road when it's signed as Wilshire Road. It's strange, because it is also called Bay-Saginaw Line Road at the intersection with Callahan Road. Then it's Wilshire when it crosses M-15. Then at Burns Road it's called Webber and at Knight Road it's called Wilshire on one side and Webber on the other. The Webber/Knight Road sign is now missing though. Then it's Wilshire the rest of the way to Portsmouth. What's strange though is that Google Maps starts calling it Wilshire between Portsmouth and Reimer/Jones Road then for the entire rest of the road east of there they call it Webber. The signs at Knight Road and Burns Road are the only two that say Webber with of course as I mentioned the one at Knight Road is now missing.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: DandyDan on February 23, 2023, 06:48:35 AM
I'm not sure if this is exactly what you're after, but in the Omaha area, 84th Street becomes Washington Street when it goes through Papillion.

Another one I found just looking at Google Maps in the Omaha area is that Ida Street in NW Omaha has a lengthy section in the middle where it is Military Road.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: Rothman on February 23, 2023, 06:56:21 AM
Can't think of any in MA due to the convention of main roads within townships being named after adjacent municipalities.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: hotdogPi on February 23, 2023, 07:16:53 AM
Quote from: Rothman on February 23, 2023, 06:56:21 AM
Can't think of any in MA due to the convention of main roads within townships being named after adjacent municipalities.

Dunstable Rd. becomes Makepeace Rd. for about 1/3 mile in Westford, MA, then turns back to Dunstable Rd. I would think it's solely for the overpass name on US 3, except it's an underpass, so the street name wouldn't be shown on US 3 anyway.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6507731,-71.4217226,17z
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: GaryV on February 23, 2023, 08:13:13 AM
In SE Michigan:

Livernois becomes Main Street in Royal Oak and Clawson.

Somewhat ironically, Rochester Road becomes Main Street in Rochester.

Van Dyke becomes Main Street in Romeo.

I think I'm seeing a theme here.



Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: 1995hoo on February 23, 2023, 08:52:23 AM
It's fairly common in Virginia for roads to change names when they go through independent cities. For example, Route 7 is Leesburg Pike in Fairfax County, becomes Broad Street in Falls Church, then becomes Leesburg Pike again (it's called King Street in Alexandria). Similarly, Route 236 is Duke Street in Alexandria, becomes Little River Turnpike in Fairfax County, then becomes Main Street in Fairfax City.

Lately there's been a rise in road names varying for political reasons. US-29, long called Lee Highway in Fairfax and Arlington Counties and Washington Street in Falls Church, still bears those names in Fairfax County and Falls Church (Fairfax authorities have voted to rename it simply "Route 29") but is apparently now called Langston Boulevard by Arlington County authorities. The changes to US-1's name have been discussed elsewhere on the forum, but the situation is now that said route has a patchwork of names across Virginia (examples I can think of are Richmond Highway in Arlington, Alexandria, Fairfax, Prince William, and Stafford Counties; Emancipation Highway in the City of Fredericksburg; Patriot Highway for some distance to the south of Fredericksburg; Washington Highway near Doswell; simply "Route One" in Chesterfield County; and the longstanding Boydton Plank Road for a lot of the portion southwest of Petersburg).
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: kphoger on February 23, 2023, 10:04:32 AM
This can happen where a road bends around something, such that a portion of it is in line with a different "street" on the grid.

For example, here in Wichita, where Lincoln bends around the convent, it goes like this:

Lincoln → Clifton → Morris → Bluff (which Google Maps is hilariously calling Blf Ave right now) → Lincoln

https://goo.gl/maps/jsYWGxcZNj35J3Lf9
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: SectorZ on February 23, 2023, 10:31:10 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Webster_Highway

I feel that Daniel Webster Hwy in New Hampshire fits the bill. It frequently jumps from that name, to something else, and back, over a dozen times, may of those times the road itself never changes but in certain places it does make turns off the road it was on. Right from the start of the Massachusetts border, the same road goes from DW Hwy to Main St in Nashua, then back to DW Hwy crossing into the next town of Merrimack. Similar changes occur all the way up current and former US 3 to Canada.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: GaryA on February 23, 2023, 11:35:51 AM
Maryland 140 goes from "Taneytown Pike" to "Baltimore St" when actually in Taneytown, and then back to "Taneytown Pike".  It becomes "Baltimore Blvd" east of Westminster.

Near where I am now, we have one that was forced by freeway onramps in Oxnard, CA: "Ventura Blvd" -> "Auto Center Dr" -> "Ventura Blvd".  Ventura Blvd is the old US 101 routing, running right next to the current freeway; as the Rice Ave and Rose Ave interchanges were improved, Ventura Blvd was rerouted to swing away from the freeway, and eventually Auto Center served as a direct connection between the two.  There's still a section of Ventura Blvd between the exits, but it's no longer the through route.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: TEG24601 on February 23, 2023, 11:58:43 AM
SR 99 in Washington.  The official state route runs from Fife to Everett, and has many names, often duplicated.  The most frequent is Pacific Highway, but also Hwy 99.  It also has the distinction over a section of International Boulevard in Sea-Tac, to be discontinuous for a few miles, but retains the International Blvd. name during the throughout the discontinuity.


M-24 in Oakland County, MI, is also named Lapeer Rd, south of Lake Orīon, then it turns, and a street, near the same alignment is now Lapeer Rd/St, and M-24 becomes Park Blvd., then as soon as it leaves the city limits, it become Lapeer Rd. again. Then just a few miles North, through the city of Oxford, MI, the road is names Washington St., but returns to the Lapeer Rd., again outside of the city limits.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: pianocello on February 23, 2023, 12:27:41 PM
Pulaski Rd in Chicago is known as Crawford Ave on either side of it. IIRC, it was originally Crawford the whole way, until the City of Chicago (and maybe some of the suburbs?) decided to change the name at some point while other suburbs did not.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on February 23, 2023, 12:59:14 PM
US 60 does this the long way: it's Pocahontas Trail in New Kent County, before entering James City County and Williamsburg and becoming a few different named streets (Richmond Rd, Bypass Rd, Page St, and York St) before becoming Pocahontas Trail again in York County.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: roadman65 on February 23, 2023, 01:03:25 PM
Forbes Road near Plant City, Florida has a gap near I-4 where the road becomes Branch Forbes Road and then returns to being Forbes Road.

US 192 in Osceola County, Florida has the same with Irlo  Bronson Highway.  It has two gaps. One in Kissimmee where it becomes Vine Street and the other in St. Cloud where it becomes 13th Street. So it's west to east Bronson, Vine, Bronson, 13th, and Bronson as you drive US 192.

In Union County, New Jersey you have Springfield Avenue along CR 577 that's Meisel Avenue for a short spell before returning to Springfield Ave.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: TheStranger on February 23, 2023, 05:00:32 PM
Here's one on a technicality near my area:

Mission Road (former US 101) in South San Francisco/Colma, northwest to El Camino Real (Route 82)
A 1 mile segment of El Camino Real in Colma
Mission Street starting around the edges of old town Colma then continuing all the way into San Francisco

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Some other ones that come to mind:

The recent redesignation of a portion of Route 1 that had been Sepulveda Boulevard in El Segundo, to Pacific Coast Highway - creating the situation in which both PCH and Sepulveda have segments before and after breaks in the name!

In Los Angeles' Koreatown, Normandie Avenue between Wilshire and Olympic is connected by a bypass route called Irolo Street, while the older Normandie route stubs off to the east.

Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: pderocco on February 23, 2023, 05:14:09 PM
Occasionally, an old decomissioned US route retains its name, except where it goes through a town. A lot of the old US-80 in San Diego County is called Old Highway 80, but it has a big gap where it's called Alpine Blvd, Willows Rd, and CA-79.

Lots of CA-1 is called Pacific Coast Highway. Lots of it isn't. Pieces of the old US-101 are called Pacific Hwy.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on February 23, 2023, 06:28:17 PM
Around here in Bloomington, Old Shakopee Road vanishes where it fits into the plane of 98th St, but reappears on either side when it breaks from the grid.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: Bruce on February 23, 2023, 06:48:42 PM
Quote from: TEG24601 on February 23, 2023, 11:58:43 AM
SR 99 in Washington.  The official state route runs from Fife to Everett, and has many names, often duplicated.  The most frequent is Pacific Highway, but also Hwy 99.  It also has the distinction over a section of International Boulevard in Sea-Tac, to be discontinuous for a few miles, but retains the International Blvd. name during the throughout the discontinuity.

It seems like the northern run of "Pacific Highway" is only signed from Gibson Road to Airport Road in the unincorporated area south of Everett. Lynnwood and Edmonds don't give SR 99 an official street name.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: Bruce on February 23, 2023, 06:52:51 PM
An example from Bellevue, WA: Northup Way -> NE 20th Street -> Northup Way (https://goo.gl/maps/2mdPeQxaHYCdMrLv5)
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: Flint1979 on February 23, 2023, 06:58:31 PM
Potter Road in Genesee County has about a 9 mile gap where Pasadena Avenue and a few other names in between but the road is discontinuous.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: GaryA on February 23, 2023, 07:01:35 PM
Quote from: pderocco on February 23, 2023, 05:14:09 PM
Occasionally, an old decomissioned US route retains its name, except where it goes through a town. A lot of the old US-80 in San Diego County is called Old Highway 80, but it has a big gap where it's called Alpine Blvd, Willows Rd, and CA-79.

Lots of CA-1 is called Pacific Coast Highway. Lots of it isn't. Pieces of the old US-101 are called Pacific Hwy.

The name "El Camino Real" gets attached to many sections of either current US 101 south of San Francisco, or one of its older routings.

Similarly, multiple sections of CA-1 in central CA are labelled "Cabrillo Highway".
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: Takumi on February 23, 2023, 07:48:40 PM
US 460 is County Drive in Petersburg and Prince George County, then becomes General Mahone Highway when it reaches the Sussex County line, then becomes County Drive again entering the town of Waverly, General Mahone Highway again once it leaves Waverly, County Drive again when it enters the town of Wakefield, then General Mahone Highway again when it leaves Wakefield. At the Southampton County line it becomes General Mahone Boulevard, then at the Isle of Wight County line it becomes Windsor Boulevard.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: lepidopteran on February 23, 2023, 08:07:59 PM
In Montgomery County, OH
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: Declan127 on February 23, 2023, 09:10:34 PM
NY 24's western segment is normally called Hempstead Turnpike in Nassau County, but within Franklin Square (more or less Hempstead town center) it becomes Fulton Avenue (I believe).
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: skluth on February 23, 2023, 11:54:53 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on February 23, 2023, 01:26:28 AM
In the St Louis area, going southbound, Lindbergh Blvd (US 61/67) changes its name to Kirkwood Road at the junction with MO 100 and goes being a divided expressway to an undivided arterial. In downtown Kirkwood, it drops from 2 lanes per direction to 1 due to street parking. The "Lindbergh Blvd" name returns at around the junction with I-44, though it retains its stroady nature from Kirkwood (except an interchange with MO 366) southward.

St Louis is filled with these gaps. Weber Road (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.5525039,-90.2850036,15.5z?hl=en) in South County "ends" going EB at the weird Weber Road/ Bayless/ Morgan Ford/ Union Road intersection then continues EB from Morgan Ford about 1/3 mile north of that intersection. Conway Road (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6428223,-90.4048752,16.5z?hl=en), Rock Hill (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.5654596,-90.3609414,16.75z?hl=en), Fee Fee (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.71583,-90.4220929,15.25z?hl=en), and Watson Rd (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.5481969,-90.4046862,16.5z?hl=en) all take strange leaps in West County. Pine St in the city is so detached that its Central West End component is called West Pine even though there is no East Pine. I could mention at least a half dozen other places but I'm just too lazy to mention them all. I blame the French who founded the city and first settled the area.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: tigerwings on February 25, 2023, 12:54:40 PM
A couple in the Detroit Area than came to mind..

W Jerfferson Ave starts Downtown Detroit, changes to Biddle Ave in Wyandotte, then change back to W Jefferson from Riverview to the county line< goes by US Turnpike then Dixie Hwy in Monroe County.  (County signs at main county roads would use W Jefferson in Wyandotte. GSV  shows the county sign is W Jefferson and Northline, the city sign is Biddle and Ford).


Coolidge Hwy Starts in River Rouge, changes to Schaefer Hwy in Detoit, Melvindale and Dearborn, Then back to Coolidge Hwy in Oakland County.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: TheStranger on February 25, 2023, 01:35:19 PM
A gap that increased over time:

Prior to 1996, 14th Street and East 14th Street in Oakland were separated by a short segment of Lake Merritt Boulevard and 1 block of 1st Avenue.

Due to the reputation of that street (portions of which are Route 185) as a crime-ridden thoroughfare, the City of Oakland renamed its segment of East 14th to International Boulevard that year.

As a result, the East 14th name now begins all the way in San Leandro.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: epzik8 on February 26, 2023, 07:13:57 AM
US 40 in Aberdeen, Maryland goes from Pulaski Highway to Philadelphia Boulevard and back. It is otherwise Pulaski Highway the whole way from Orleans Street in east Baltimore to US 13 in Delaware.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: Flint1979 on February 26, 2023, 08:08:14 AM
Quote from: tigerwings on February 25, 2023, 12:54:40 PM
A couple in the Detroit Area than came to mind..

W Jerfferson Ave starts Downtown Detroit, changes to Biddle Ave in Wyandotte, then change back to W Jefferson from Riverview to the county line< goes by US Turnpike then Dixie Hwy in Monroe County.  (County signs at main county roads would use W Jefferson in Wyandotte. GSV  shows the county sign is W Jefferson and Northline, the city sign is Biddle and Ford).


Coolidge Hwy Starts in River Rouge, changes to Schaefer Hwy in Detoit, Melvindale and Dearborn, Then back to Coolidge Hwy in Oakland County.
And in the other direction Jefferson goes through Grosse Pointe Park and Grosse Pointe as Jefferson then turns into Lakeside Drive as it enters Grosse Pointe Farms, then turns back into Jefferson when it enters St. Clair Shores. Then has a gap because of Selfridge then starts up again and ends at 23 Mile in New Baltimore.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: webny99 on March 01, 2023, 12:40:51 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 23, 2023, 10:04:32 AM
Bluff (which Google Maps is hilariously calling Blf Ave right now)

Google is also hilariously using "Red Hl Vly Pkwy" for Red Hill Valley Pkwy: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.222532,-79.7939331,16.38z
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: jgrace14 on March 01, 2023, 01:37:28 PM
Quote from: Rothman on February 23, 2023, 06:56:21 AM
Can't think of any in MA due to the convention of main roads within townships being named after adjacent municipalities.

Mass Ave runs from Lunenburg to Boston, with no route thru Shirley/Ayer, then starts again in Harvard and runs to Acton, with a gap thru Concord and along 2A in Concord, Lincoln, and part of Lexington before starting again and running from Lexington-Arlington-Cambridge-Boston
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on March 01, 2023, 02:11:36 PM
Does Sepulveda Blvd. count for this thread?
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: webny99 on March 01, 2023, 03:13:55 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 01, 2023, 02:11:36 PM
Does Sepulveda Blvd. count for this thread?

That would be for you to tell us.  :cool:
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on March 01, 2023, 03:40:36 PM
Quote from: webny99 on March 01, 2023, 03:13:55 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 01, 2023, 02:11:36 PM
Does Sepulveda Blvd. count for this thread?

That would be for you to tell us.  :cool:

I guess what I mean is I think I may be confused on the definition for this thread.  It is one strip of pavement that gets its name changed a few times and then reverts back to the original name or is it about roads with several disjointed segments?
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: webny99 on March 01, 2023, 03:42:28 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 01, 2023, 03:40:36 PM
Quote from: webny99 on March 01, 2023, 03:13:55 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 01, 2023, 02:11:36 PM
Does Sepulveda Blvd. count for this thread?

That would be for you to tell us.  :cool:

I guess what I mean is I think I may be confused on the definition for this thread.  It is one strip of pavement that gets its name changed a few times and then reverts back to the original name or is it about roads with several disjointed segments?

It's about name changes. Disjointed segments are separate roads as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: frankenroad on March 01, 2023, 03:42:38 PM
Ross Avenue in St Bernard, OH becomes Tennessee Ave in Cincinnati, and then reverts to being Ross when entering Norwood.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: paulthemapguy on March 03, 2023, 04:49:49 PM
I'm sure a lot of county roads have a name based on their position on the county's grid, and then the road skewers through a town that gives it a municipal street name.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: hbelkins on March 03, 2023, 07:49:26 PM
I've resisted this as long as I can.

Cumberland Gap Parkway (US 25E) in Kentucky has a "Gap" in its name.

:-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: plain on March 04, 2023, 12:00:52 AM
US 13 is the Ocean Hwy everywhere in MD, except on the Salisbury Bypass.

US 13 BUS in Salisbury and Fruitland is named Salisbury and Fruitland Boulevards, respectively.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: TheStranger on March 04, 2023, 03:05:52 AM
Quote from: webny99 on March 01, 2023, 03:42:28 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 01, 2023, 03:40:36 PM
Quote from: webny99 on March 01, 2023, 03:13:55 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 01, 2023, 02:11:36 PM
Does Sepulveda Blvd. count for this thread?

That would be for you to tell us.  :cool:

I guess what I mean is I think I may be confused on the definition for this thread.  It is one strip of pavement that gets its name changed a few times and then reverts back to the original name or is it about roads with several disjointed segments?

It's about name changes. Disjointed segments are separate roads as far as I'm concerned.

In the case of Sepulveda...

It does count because of the following recent change:

Immediately north of Imperial Highway in LAX territory: Sepulveda Boulevard (up until the junction with former Route 7)
Through El Segundo: Pacific Coast Highway
Manhattan Beach: Sepulveda Boulevard


Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: Flint1979 on March 04, 2023, 06:54:19 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on March 03, 2023, 07:49:26 PM
I've resisted this as long as I can.

Cumberland Gap Parkway (US 25E) in Kentucky has a "Gap" in its name.

:-D :-D :-D
I honestly love that highway.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: webny99 on March 05, 2023, 03:59:12 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 03, 2023, 04:49:49 PM
I'm sure a lot of county roads have a name based on their position on the county's grid, and then the road skewers through a town that gives it a municipal street name.

Yes, this does seem to be more common than I thought for streets that take on a default name like "Main St" through a town or village, then revert to the previous name. I am curious how many examples there are that do not fall under this definition, like the one in the OP and a few others mentioned upthread.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: SD Mapman on March 05, 2023, 10:37:19 PM
Quote from: webny99 on March 05, 2023, 03:59:12 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 03, 2023, 04:49:49 PM
I'm sure a lot of county roads have a name based on their position on the county's grid, and then the road skewers through a town that gives it a municipal street name.

Yes, this does seem to be more common than I thought for streets that take on a default name like "Main St" through a town or village, then revert to the previous name. I am curious how many examples there are that do not fall under this definition, like the one in the OP and a few others mentioned upthread.

It's real common out here in the Plains, e.g. in SD on the eastern side of the state you'll have the section line roads numbered according to the statewide numbering system, enter a town and follow that town's naming convention, then revert back to the section line system once they leave town. Honestly I can't think of any examples of specifically what you're looking for out here, most road name changes are either jumping on the city grid or some other change of direction or the rural/urban/rural kind.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: bzakharin on March 16, 2023, 02:23:17 PM
I'm sure I've seen roads named after the town they go to on either side of the town, that are named something else within the town. I can't think of a specific example. The closest I can think of is Woodbridge Ave in NJ, which runs from Highland Park to Woodbridge where it becomes Main Street. Main Street ends at Rahway Avenue (onto which the county route it carries turns) but another Woodbridge Avenue begins just one block to the south of this intersection. This second Woodbridge Avenue never actually leaves Woodbridge, though.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: kphoger on March 16, 2023, 02:28:12 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on March 16, 2023, 02:23:17 PM
I'm sure I've seen roads named after the town they go to on either side of the town, that are named something else within the town. I can't think of a specific example.

There's a local one that's actually the opposite.  Butler Road exists both north and south of the town of Andover.  Within Andover, it's called Andover Road.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: kylebnjmnross on March 16, 2023, 03:44:32 PM
In my neighborhood, there is a main road that goes from New Cumberland to Mechanicsburg that is called Simpson Ferry Road for most of its length. Starting from New Cumberland and going west, it starts out as Simpson Ferry Road. But then for some reason after it reaches an interchange with I-83, it changes to Carlisle Road. Then it takes a sharp turn, goes under a railroad underpass, and then sort of intersects with itself and becomes Gettysburg Road for a very short length. Then the Gettysburg name shoots off onto a different road, and so it becomes Simpson Ferry again, with only a brief stretch as Main Street as it goes through Shiremanstown.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: roadman65 on March 17, 2023, 01:26:50 PM
Orange Blossom Trail in Orange and Osceola Counties of Florida. It changes names at Kissimmee and Apopka to coincide with those cities own street grid.


I believe Pocahontas Trail in VA was mentioned already around Williamsburg.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: -- US 175 -- on March 17, 2023, 02:13:15 PM
There are 2 instances of this in Plano, TX (Dallas northern suburb). 

Dallas and Richardson both have Greenville Ave. (historic US 75), until it intersects with Plano Rd. a couple of miles south of Plano, then it is Ave. K in Plano, then it goes back to being Greenville Ave. in Allen.

A different scenario occurs farther west, as Hillcrest Rd. in Dallas becomes Ohio Dr. in Plano.  Ohio continues north into Frisco, but the Hillcrest name resumes in Frisco also, along approximately the same alignment as the Dallas version.  IIRR, residents along and near Ohio in Plano petitioned the city some time ago to change the Ohio name to Hillcrest but the city was steadfast for some reason and refused.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: roadman65 on March 17, 2023, 02:18:19 PM
Governor Printz Blvd. in both Delaware and SE Pennsylvania (which is US 13 and PA 291) has gaps in Chester and Essington.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: Dough4872 on May 31, 2023, 09:41:33 PM
This is common in Pennsylvania where a road passes through a town and becomes a street. Easton Road (PA 611) has a gap through Doylestown where it's called Main Street (PA 611 bypasses Doylestown). Ridge Pike has a gap in the Norristown area where it becomes Main Street. Dekalb Pike (US 202) has a gap in Bridgeport and Norristown where it is Dekalb Street (which carries northbound US 202). North Wales Road has a gap in North Wales where it is Walnut Street. Sumneytown Pike has a gap in North Wales where it is Main Street.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: kurumi on June 01, 2023, 10:56:19 AM
In the past, Connecticut's modern-day Berlin Turnpike (US 5 and CT 15) was called that everywhere except in Berlin itself, where the name was "Wilbur Cross Highway". That was fixed around 2001 and it's now the Berlin Turnpike throughout.

Before the change: https://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/18/nyregion/in-berlin-a-road-with-an-identity-crisis.html
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: dgolub on June 03, 2023, 08:03:53 AM
Quote from: Declan127 on February 23, 2023, 09:10:34 PM
NY 24's western segment is normally called Hempstead Turnpike in Nassau County, but within Franklin Square (more or less Hempstead town center) it becomes Fulton Avenue (I believe).

It happens in the Village of Hempstead, not Franklin Square, but yes, that gap does exist.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: dgolub on June 03, 2023, 08:06:27 AM
I feel like this sort of arrangement isn't all that rare.  Here on Long Island, Montauk Highway does it twice, once in Patchogue, where the CR 85 and CR 80 sections are separated by Main Street, and once in Southampton where the unsigned section of NY 27A is separated from NY 27 by Hill Street and Hampton Road.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: bzakharin on June 06, 2023, 03:37:12 PM
Camden County New Jersey CR 644 starts out as Grove Street in Haddonfield and Cherry Hill, then becomes Haddonfield Road after crossing NJ 70 in Cherry Hill. It continues under that name until it enters Pennsauken, at which point it's signed as Haddonfield-Sorrell Horse Road at traffic lights, but still Haddonfield Rd on regular blades. This ends after the interchange with NJ 90 after which it reverts to being just Haddonfield Road. I'm sure the intention was to sign Sorrell Horse all the way to the road's terminus at US 130 since it's named after the Sorrel Horse Tavern (note the difference in spelling, though) which existed at that intersection into the 1950s or 1960s.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/69gAAOSwVrNfv9ii/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: wanderer2575 on June 06, 2023, 04:20:57 PM
Through South Lyon MI, Pontiac Trail is also Lafayette Street and 10 Mile Road is also Lake Street.

https://goo.gl/maps/1bqjv6i8CPkw46ux9
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: Flint1979 on June 06, 2023, 06:09:27 PM
Quote from: TEG24601 on February 23, 2023, 11:58:43 AM
M-24 in Oakland County, MI, is also named Lapeer Rd, south of Lake Orīon, then it turns, and a street, near the same alignment is now Lapeer Rd/St, and M-24 becomes Park Blvd., then as soon as it leaves the city limits, it become Lapeer Rd. again. Then just a few miles North, through the city of Oxford, MI, the road is names Washington St., but returns to the Lapeer Rd., again outside of the city limits.
That's because the name Lapeer is consistent through the rural areas and the name only changes in cities/villages, that's pretty normal around Michigan.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: bugo on June 06, 2023, 06:47:37 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on February 22, 2023, 10:31:11 PM
This may be an example of something else entirely, Tulsa has a few major issues with discontinuous roads with some of the smaller streets. For example, Evanston Avenue exists as 20 discontinuous roads, which is kinda sucky for navigation.

I don't think this is what the OP was talking about. What he was referring to was roads like the main E-W streets through BA. They change names at the city limits on each side of BA. 61st becomes Albany, for example, and changes back to 61st at the east city limit. BA has always thought it was a lot more important than it is,  and this is one example. At least some of the street signs have the street's real name on them along with the BA name.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: roadman65 on June 07, 2023, 08:44:34 AM
Baltimore Washington Blvd ( US 1) in Laurel, MD.  It becomes a one way couplet in the city limits and the next county, but then resumes when the one way pair merges back together on each end.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: swake on June 12, 2023, 06:31:50 PM
Quote from: bugo on June 06, 2023, 06:47:37 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on February 22, 2023, 10:31:11 PM
This may be an example of something else entirely, Tulsa has a few major issues with discontinuous roads with some of the smaller streets. For example, Evanston Avenue exists as 20 discontinuous roads, which is kinda sucky for navigation.

I don't think this is what the OP was talking about. What he was referring to was roads like the main E-W streets through BA. They change names at the city limits on each side of BA. 61st becomes Albany, for example, and changes back to 61st at the east city limit. BA has always thought it was a lot more important than it is,  and this is one example. At least some of the street signs have the street's real name on them along with the BA name.

Yeah, Jenks does this too. Peoria leaving Tulsa becomes Elm in Jenks and then goes back to Peoria in Glenpool. The exit for Elm in Jenks on the Creek Turnpike is labeled "Elm - Peoria".

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0168394,-95.9682986,3a,25.2y,270.58h,87.58t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1s_r_SXPxTSQ2H78sF1HHQvA!2e0!5s20230201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D_r_SXPxTSQ2H78sF1HHQvA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D337.70114%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I've seen a lot of name changes like this in the Bay Area in California.

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.4060471,-122.1560169,3a,15y,32.77h,91.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-kzpkFJvmoq13WDffMw1Fw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: TheStranger on June 12, 2023, 07:23:05 PM
Quote from: swake on June 12, 2023, 06:31:50 PM

I've seen a lot of name changes like this in the Bay Area in California.

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.4060471,-122.1560169,3a,15y,32.77h,91.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-kzpkFJvmoq13WDffMw1Fw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

This segment of Junipero Serra Boulevard near Stanford was supposed to be connected to the San Francisco-San Bruno arterial in 1940s planning, but the creation of I-280 in the 1950s negated this.  (280 itself did take over a portion of the boulevard between South San Francisco and San Bruno)
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: bugo on June 12, 2023, 08:33:54 PM
Quote from: swake on June 12, 2023, 06:31:50 PM
Yeah, Jenks does this too. Peoria leaving Tulsa becomes Elm in Jenks and then goes back to Peoria in Glenpool. The exit for Elm in Jenks on the Creek Turnpike is labeled "Elm - Peoria".

I used to take that exit every day on the way to work. It was the first interchange to switch to Platepay. The toll fare from Yale to Peoria (~3 miles) for a vehicle with 2 axles with Platepay is a whopping $1.50, but the fare with Pikepass is a much more reasonable 50¢. The Platepay fare at the Peoria exit is the same $1.50 whether you get on at Yale, or at Memorial. The Pikepass fare from Memorial to Peoria is 75¢. If you use the turnpikes very often at all, the Pikepass pays for itself very quickly.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: mrsman on July 18, 2023, 05:34:09 PM
L.A. has certain independent cities that are surrounded by L.A. and as far as I'm aware they each have some streets that meet this and change names when crossing the city line and change back when reentering L.A.

San Fernando:  Bradley - 4th - Bradley;  Herrick - 5th - Herrick

Inglewood and Hawthorne:  Eucalyptus - Cardon - Eucalyptus - Cardon [but part of this is blocked by the 105 freeway]; Fir - Firmona - Ramona - Firmona [again part is blocked by the 105 freeway]

Mid-Wilshire: Crescent Heights - McCarthy Vista - Carrillo - Crescent Heights

Culver City:  While these streets are blocked north of Venice, you do have Cornith-Albright-Corinth and Purdue-Bledsoe-Purdue

Beverly Hills: Sherbourne - Carson - Sherbourne; Holt - Stanley - Holt
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: JKRhodes on July 19, 2023, 12:20:50 AM
Gilbert, Arizona: Greenfield Road becomes Santan Village Parkway as it snakes around the 202 freeway, then becomes Greenfield Road again after it crosses Pecos.

Portions of the original greenfield road still exist in that gap on the original alignment, mostly whatever wasn't overlaid by Loop 202.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: JKRhodes on July 19, 2023, 12:26:46 AM
Also in Tucson: Campbell Ave - Kino Parkway - Campbell Ave.
Title: Re: Road Names with a "Gap"
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on July 19, 2023, 01:22:08 PM
This is kind of cheating but in Mecklenburg County, Virginia, US 1's official name is "Highway One" (all spelled out). In South Hill, it becomes Mecklenburg Avenue and Danville Avenue before joining US 58 and becoming Highway One again (despite also being US 58).

Mecklenburg County is strange in that a number of primary routes' official names are their numbers spelled out (for example, Highway Fifty-Eight, Highway Forty-Seven, etc). This happens with a secondary route, as well - part of SR 903 is Goodes Ferry Road, but it officially becomes "Highway Nine-O-Three" near Bracey.