According to the Walmart website, the 2024 (100th Anniversary) Road Atlas will be available on May 9 (on the Barnes and Noble site, it indicates May 10). A search of the Rand McNally site itself for publishing information came up empty:
[url]https://www.walmart.com/ip/Rand-McNally-2024-Road-Atlas-Paperback/2189480469?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0[url]
I put in my Amazon preorder already (partly to hit free shipping thresholds).
I'm excited for the commemorative edition! Happy 100th to America's favorite road atlas!
It would be nice if they improved the layouts for some of the states for the 100 year edition.
But I seriously doubt they'll ever bother doing that since that takes time and money the print media industry isn't making.
I'm waiting for 2026 when we have the 100th anniversary of the U.S. numbered highway system.
We should throw it a big party and buy a big cake where it can blow out 100 candles.
Quote from: bandit957 on March 17, 2023, 08:05:59 PM
I'm waiting for 2026 when we have the 100th anniversary of the U.S. numbered highway system.
Are you sure?
(Because they may not think about it at all. 2006 was the 50th anniversary of the Interstate system, and no one thought to include it in that year's edition.)
Quote from: bob7374 on March 13, 2023, 04:25:47 PM
According to the Walmart website, the 2024 (100th Anniversary) Road Atlas will be available on May 9 (on the Barnes and Noble site, it indicates May 10). A search of the Rand McNally site itself for publishing information came up empty:
[url]https://www.walmart.com/ip/Rand-McNally-2024-Road-Atlas-Paperback/2189480469?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0[url]
I have way too many maps and books as it is, but is this worth it? This won't be redundant clutter?
Barnes and Noble has accelerated the sales of the 2024 Atlas since my previous post. It is available this week in their stores (including my local one) and online. It is also available at the Rand McNally site and on Amazon. I was able to pick one up this afternoon. Some interesting finds in my first go through:
The CT map was not updated to include the recent exit renumbering on I-691, CT 9 and CT 72.
The Las Vegas NV inset includes I-11 running with I-515 along US 93/95, then by itself along US 95 north of I-15.
The NC map includes I-587 along US 264 east of I-95, but still has US 264 running with it to Greenville. No I-42 despite possibly signing on segments of US 70 before 2024. I-885 now is shown on the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill inset along the Durham Freeway, but not on US 70. I-840 is shown extending beyond Yanceyville Street, but the Winston-Salem Beltway is still shown as under construction beyond US 311 on the Greensboro/Winston-Salem inset.
The new I-95 exit numbers for RI are shown.
They still use the 'Milepoint' exit numbers for VT highways.
Does Walmart still sell an inexpensive edition of the atlas?
Quote from: Galaga King on April 27, 2023, 06:19:32 PM
Does Walmart still sell an inexpensive edition of the atlas?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Rand-McNally-2024-Road-Atlas-100th-Anniversary-Collector-s-Edition-Paperback-9780528027185/2189480469?from=searchResults
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 27, 2023, 07:47:30 PM
Quote from: Galaga King on April 27, 2023, 06:19:32 PM
Does Walmart still sell an inexpensive edition of the atlas?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Rand-McNally-2024-Road-Atlas-100th-Anniversary-Collector-s-Edition-Paperback-9780528027185/2189480469?from=searchResults
So the days of the $7.99 Walmart edition are gone...
I had a large scale edition of the 24 atlas arrive Monday.
The page breaks are distractingly odd.
Meh. Gousha was far better.
I was disappointed that National Geographic doesn't seem to have come out with a new edition of their full-sized road atlas this year. I like their cartography, and I'm old enough that my eyes are no longer a fan of Rand Mcnnally's.
Quote from: bob7374 on April 27, 2023, 11:25:49 AM
They still use the 'Milepoint' exit numbers for VT highways.
AIUI, those will become the "permanent" exit numbers ca. 2030.
Quote from: froggie on April 28, 2023, 08:54:51 AM
Quote from: bob7374 on April 27, 2023, 11:25:49 AM
They still use the 'Milepoint' exit numbers for VT highways.
AIUI, those will become the "permanent" exit numbers ca. 2030.
Heh. I'll believe it when I see it. My bet is 2030 is beyond the STIP period in Vermont.
Quote from: Galaga King on April 27, 2023, 08:04:52 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 27, 2023, 07:47:30 PM
Quote from: Galaga King on April 27, 2023, 06:19:32 PM
Does Walmart still sell an inexpensive edition of the atlas?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Rand-McNally-2024-Road-Atlas-100th-Anniversary-Collector-s-Edition-Paperback-9780528027185/2189480469?from=searchResults
So the days of the $7.99 Walmart edition are gone...
I haven't been able to find a Walmart edition inside any store for at least a couple of years. Very disappointing!
Quote from: Rothman on April 28, 2023, 08:59:53 AM
Quote from: froggie on April 28, 2023, 08:54:51 AM
Quote from: bob7374 on April 27, 2023, 11:25:49 AM
They still use the 'Milepoint' exit numbers for VT highways.
AIUI, those will become the "permanent" exit numbers ca. 2030.
Heh. I'll believe it when I see it. My bet is 2030 is beyond the STIP period in Vermont.
This is 2023. 2030 would be beyond MOST states' STIPs.
Quote from: froggie on April 28, 2023, 10:51:32 AM
Quote from: Rothman on April 28, 2023, 08:59:53 AM
Quote from: froggie on April 28, 2023, 08:54:51 AM
Quote from: bob7374 on April 27, 2023, 11:25:49 AM
They still use the 'Milepoint' exit numbers for VT highways.
AIUI, those will become the "permanent" exit numbers ca. 2030.
Heh. I'll believe it when I see it. My bet is 2030 is beyond the STIP period in Vermont.
This is 2023. 2030 would be beyond MOST states' STIPs.
Yeah, same in NY. But, I think I read somewhere that a state or two somehow go way out on their STIP -- even though they have their typical four andl five-year programs, they project out even further in the STIP (of course, all states manage more years than an active STIP period in their own capital programs).
I picked up my copy of the 2024 Large Scale on last Thursday at B&N.
Quote from: wriddle082 on April 28, 2023, 09:21:40 AM
Quote from: Galaga King on April 27, 2023, 08:04:52 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 27, 2023, 07:47:30 PM
Quote from: Galaga King on April 27, 2023, 06:19:32 PM
Does Walmart still sell an inexpensive edition of the atlas?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Rand-McNally-2024-Road-Atlas-100th-Anniversary-Collector-s-Edition-Paperback-9780528027185/2189480469?from=searchResults
So the days of the $7.99 Walmart edition are gone...
I haven't been able to find a Walmart edition inside any store for at least a couple of years. Very disappointing!
Son of a bitch! My suspicion may be that this is the anniversary edition, and it's not exactly surprising that such issues will command higher prices than others. But even at $22.49, it's too rich for my blood. I'll just wait until later when the price drop occurs.
How does a Rand McNally Motor Carrier atlas differ from the normal atlas?
Quote from: Henry on May 08, 2023, 09:52:57 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on April 28, 2023, 09:21:40 AM
Quote from: Galaga King on April 27, 2023, 08:04:52 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 27, 2023, 07:47:30 PM
Quote from: Galaga King on April 27, 2023, 06:19:32 PM
Does Walmart still sell an inexpensive edition of the atlas?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Rand-McNally-2024-Road-Atlas-100th-Anniversary-Collector-s-Edition-Paperback-9780528027185/2189480469?from=searchResults
So the days of the $7.99 Walmart edition are gone...
I haven't been able to find a Walmart edition inside any store for at least a couple of years. Very disappointing!
Son of a bitch! My suspicion may be that this is the anniversary edition, and it's not exactly surprising that such issues will command higher prices than others. But even at $22.49, it's too rich for my blood. I'll just wait until later when the price drop occurs.
There was a huge price increase for the 2023 edition, to $14.97.
I haven't yet looked for the 2024 edition at the WalMarts in my area. I'll have to start looking for one.
Quote from: XamotCGC on May 08, 2023, 10:00:17 PM
How does a Rand McNally Motor Carrier atlas differ from the normal atlas?
Highways for trucks are highlighted. In some states, almost all highways are highlighted, in others (NJ and much of the Northeast) very few are highlighted. Weigh station locations are shown with a red circle with a black border and an arrow. There is also a listing on what highways trucks are not allowed in each state. There are probably a couple of other differences that I cannot remember at this moment.
Much of the cartography is the same as a normal atlas along with city inserts being the same.
Quote from: XamotCGC on May 08, 2023, 10:00:17 PM
How does a Rand McNally Motor Carrier atlas differ from the normal atlas?
It includes all of Fritz's routes.
Quote from: amroad17 on May 08, 2023, 10:35:38 PM
Quote from: XamotCGC on May 08, 2023, 10:00:17 PM
How does a Rand McNally Motor Carrier atlas differ from the normal atlas?
Highways for trucks are highlighted. In some states, almost all highways are highlighted, in others (NJ and much of the Northeast) very few are highlighted. Weigh station locations are shown with a red circle with a black border and an arrow. There is also a listing on what highways trucks are not allowed in each state. There are probably a couple of other differences that I cannot remember at this moment.
Much of the cartography is the same as a normal atlas along with city inserts being the same.
With the one I have, the pages are also laminated, so it's a bit more durable than the standard atlas.
I would gladly pay more for a usefully enhanced atlas, but I was never able to tell if anything in the motor carrier version was worth buying.
I have to ask again, if you have a lot of maps and books, is this really worth it? What are the pros?
Quote from: bluecountry on June 11, 2023, 11:04:11 AM
I have to ask again, if you have a lot of maps and books, is this really worth it? What are the pros?
I used to buy a new atlas every year, but now, i just buy one every 2 or 3 years. I did buy the new one, but the last one I bought was a 2021 edition. I had an Amazon gift card, so I ordered the spiral-bound large scale atlas. These days, I mostly collect digital maps, but I still like to have a fairly recent paper atlas at all times.
Quote from: bugo on June 12, 2023, 09:00:02 PM
Quote from: bluecountry on June 11, 2023, 11:04:11 AM
I have to ask again, if you have a lot of maps and books, is this really worth it? What are the pros?
I used to buy a new atlas every year, but now, i just buy one every 2 or 3 years.
I bought at least one new atlas every year, through 2023. It helped, before Wal-Mart started jacking up the prices on its version of the RMcN, that it wasn't overly expensive to buy one a year. Even if the road network hasn't changed that much from year to year, the Wal-Mart versions included store directories, and it was nice to get updates on the store directories. But I see that Wal-Mart is putting out its own rather pricey Wal-Mart Atlases (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Walmart-Atlas-9781885464453-9781885464453/53612524), so maybe it's not putting out a Wal-Mart version of RMcN for 2024 I haven't seen the latter, or any Wal-Mart Atlas in the stores, so I don't know if the Wal-Mart Atlas is any good or at least somehow uses RMcN cartography.
Quote from: bugo on June 12, 2023, 09:00:02 PM
Quote from: bluecountry on June 11, 2023, 11:04:11 AM
I have to ask again, if you have a lot of maps and books, is this really worth it? What are the pros?
I used to buy a new atlas every year, but now, i just buy one every 2 or 3 years. I did buy the new one, but the last one I bought was a 2021 edition. I had an Amazon gift card, so I ordered the spiral-bound large scale atlas. These days, I mostly collect digital maps, but I still like to have a fairly recent paper atlas at all times.
Is it worth it?
Also, yeh should you get the spiral or the regular book?
Quote from: bluecountry on June 13, 2023, 07:24:21 AM
Quote from: bugo on June 12, 2023, 09:00:02 PM
Quote from: bluecountry on June 11, 2023, 11:04:11 AM
I have to ask again, if you have a lot of maps and books, is this really worth it? What are the pros?
I used to buy a new atlas every year, but now, i just buy one every 2 or 3 years. I did buy the new one, but the last one I bought was a 2021 edition. I had an Amazon gift card, so I ordered the spiral-bound large scale atlas. These days, I mostly collect digital maps, but I still like to have a fairly recent paper atlas at all times.
Is it worth it?
Also, yeh should you get the spiral or the regular book?
Depends on the person and their needs. What would make an atlas worth it to you?
Quote from: Rothman on June 13, 2023, 07:43:49 AM
Quote from: bluecountry on June 13, 2023, 07:24:21 AM
Quote from: bugo on June 12, 2023, 09:00:02 PM
Quote from: bluecountry on June 11, 2023, 11:04:11 AM
I have to ask again, if you have a lot of maps and books, is this really worth it? What are the pros?
I used to buy a new atlas every year, but now, i just buy one every 2 or 3 years. I did buy the new one, but the last one I bought was a 2021 edition. I had an Amazon gift card, so I ordered the spiral-bound large scale atlas. These days, I mostly collect digital maps, but I still like to have a fairly recent paper atlas at all times.
Is it worth it?
Also, yeh should you get the spiral or the regular book?
Depends on the person and their needs. What would make an atlas worth it to you?
I love collecting geography things, but it has to be worth it now as I have too much clutter.
I mean, is this atlas really that different/special from other years?
Quote from: bluecountry on June 13, 2023, 07:47:07 AM
Quote from: Rothman on June 13, 2023, 07:43:49 AM
Quote from: bluecountry on June 13, 2023, 07:24:21 AM
Quote from: bugo on June 12, 2023, 09:00:02 PM
Quote from: bluecountry on June 11, 2023, 11:04:11 AM
I have to ask again, if you have a lot of maps and books, is this really worth it? What are the pros?
I used to buy a new atlas every year, but now, i just buy one every 2 or 3 years. I did buy the new one, but the last one I bought was a 2021 edition. I had an Amazon gift card, so I ordered the spiral-bound large scale atlas. These days, I mostly collect digital maps, but I still like to have a fairly recent paper atlas at all times.
Is it worth it?
Also, yeh should you get the spiral or the regular book?
Depends on the person and their needs. What would make an atlas worth it to you?
I love collecting geography things, but it has to be worth it now as I have too much clutter.
I mean, is this atlas really that different/special from other years?
How different does it have to be for it to be worth it to you? When I was kid, when the Interstate System was still being built, the changes between atlases were more drastic than it's been over any of the last 20 years or more. You're not going to see those types of big changes year-to-year anymore. In terms of content, sure, there are the usual big number of minor updates, but no, the overall atlas pretty much stays the same, despite it being the 100th Anniversary edition.
Not sure what you'd expect otherwise, really. Maps only represent reality...
Well then the question becomes, book or spiral?
Quote from: bluecountry on June 13, 2023, 07:24:21 AM
Quote from: bugo on June 12, 2023, 09:00:02 PM
I used to buy a new atlas every year, but now, i just buy one every 2 or 3 years. I did buy the new one, but the last one I bought was a 2021 edition. I had an Amazon gift card, so I ordered the spiral-bound large scale atlas. These days, I mostly collect digital maps, but I still like to have a fairly recent paper atlas at all times.
Is it worth it?
It was for me because I had the gift card. It's worth it if you can easily afford it and you have a place to store it.
Quote
Also, yeh should you get the spiral or the regular book?
See above.
Quote from: bluecountry on June 13, 2023, 11:29:18 AM
Well then the question becomes, book or spiral?
My eyes are pushing 50, so I bought the large scale atlas, which is spiral bound.
The truckers' atlas is for truckers, and so the additional information it contains largely relates to trucking:
(https://i.imgur.com/WHyKThj.jpg)
In particular, it shows which routes are legal for trucks, which incidentally, does not include a small bit of the 101 in northern California.
(https://i.imgur.com/yjjpVw7.jpg)
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on June 15, 2023, 02:33:49 PM
In particular, it shows which routes are legal for trucks, which incidentally, does not include a small bit of the 101 in northern California.
Looks like there are warning signs at both ends.
Here's the south end: https://goo.gl/maps/upTd63vHGS1g58tK8
Alright I got the atlas, few things:
1. I would recommend the large spiral, which is what I purchased.
2. Unless I am missing something, it does not appear to be that 'special.' Other than the label I do not see anything else to differentiate.
3. Interesting that:
A. In DC, it shows the current I-395 stub @ I-695 as I-195, and it shows I-395 going east, there is no I-695. Yet this has not been signed.
B. But the I-66 express lanes are not displayed.
Quote from: bluecountry on June 16, 2023, 10:08:23 AM
Alright I got the atlas, few things:
1. I would recommend the large spiral, which is what I purchased.
2. Unless I am missing something, it does not appear to be that 'special.' Other than the label I do not see anything else to differentiate.
3. Interesting that:
A. In DC, it shows the current I-395 stub @ I-695 as I-195, and it shows I-395 going east, there is no I-695. Yet this has not been signed.
B. But the I-66 express lanes are not displayed.
Still not sure what you'd expect in terms of it being "special." It's a road atlas.
Quote from: Rothman on June 16, 2023, 10:27:22 AM
Quote from: bluecountry on June 16, 2023, 10:08:23 AM
Alright I got the atlas, few things:
1. I would recommend the large spiral, which is what I purchased.
2. Unless I am missing something, it does not appear to be that 'special.' Other than the label I do not see anything else to differentiate.
3. Interesting that:
A. In DC, it shows the current I-395 stub @ I-695 as I-195, and it shows I-395 going east, there is no I-695. Yet this has not been signed.
B. But the I-66 express lanes are not displayed.
Still not sure what you'd expect in terms of it being "special." It's a road atlas.
If I recall, it did say Special Edition on the cover. I will check when I get home.
Quote from: kphoger on June 15, 2023, 02:45:09 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on June 15, 2023, 02:33:49 PM
In particular, it shows which routes are legal for trucks, which incidentally, does not include a small bit of the 101 in northern California.
Looks like there are warning signs at both ends.
Here's the south end: https://goo.gl/maps/upTd63vHGS1g58tK8
Those curves are no joke, either.
Fun drive though :)
Whenever I buy one, which is every few years, I get the spiral bound that comes with the national park guide. I don't really need that guide, but I like the regular, not large, type and the spiral is much easier to have in the passenger seat when I'm on a trip.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on June 16, 2023, 12:36:42 PM
Whenever I buy one, which is every few years, I get the spiral bound that comes with the national park guide. I don't really need that guide, but I like the regular, not large, type and the spiral is much easier to have in the passenger seat when I'm on a trip.
My dad bought me the national park edition. I still like my spiral-bound large print edition better, though.
Why is it that
A. In DC, it shows the current I-395 stub @ I-695 as I-195, and it shows I-395 going east, there is no I-695. Yet this has not been signed.
B. But the I-66 express lanes are not displayed.
I bought the 2024 RMN atlas this morning. Biggest changes for California were on the Bakersfield inset:
(1) The Centennial Corridor portion of the Westside Parkway is shown as open.
(2) Neither the Centennial Corridor nor the Westside Parkway are designated as State Route 58. The inset map shows State Route 58 on Rosedale Highway.
(3) Alfred Harrell Highway is designated as a freeway (because it is) west of Hart Memorial Park.
I'm not aware of Rand McNally ever displaying any type of preferential lane, whether that's express, HOV, etc . Which makes sense to me, those types of lane are mostly used by commuters, but national road atlases like Rand McNally are meant for people taking road trips, most of whom have no need to use express/HOV/etc lanes in the places they travel to.
Quote from: ran4sh on July 11, 2023, 10:52:19 AM
I'm not aware of Rand McNally ever displaying any type of preferential lane, whether that's express, HOV, etc . Which makes sense to me, those types of lane are mostly used by commuters, but national road atlases like Rand McNally are meant for people taking road trips, most of whom have no need to use express/HOV/etc lanes in the places they travel to.
The DC inset shows Express toll lanes where they are a separate carriageway. Does not show if it is a single lane on the same carriageway like US 50 or I-270.
I've always thought it would be helpful if road atlases noted Interstates with 3+ lanes in each direction vs. 2. No need for separate indications of 3, 4, 5, 6, etc. lanes; just some differentiation between "classic" four-lane Interstates and upgraded ones.
6 lane (3 each way) rural interstate is common enough that my opinion is that an "upgraded" interstate starts at 8 lanes. Otherwise you would be including, for example, all of I-95 in Florida, or all of I-75 in Georgia, or I-95 (various states) for a long distance north of Richmond, as "upgraded"
Quote from: ran4sh on July 13, 2023, 11:17:17 AM
6 lane (3 each way) rural interstate is common enough that my opinion is that an "upgraded" interstate starts at 8 lanes. Otherwise you would be including, for example, all of I-95 in Florida, or all of I-75 in Georgia, or I-95 (various states) for a long distance north of Richmond, as "upgraded"
Depends on the state. Around NY, any potential examples (such as Northway exits 16-17, or Thruway exits 15A-16) are debatable at best.
Quote from: ran4sh on July 13, 2023, 11:17:17 AM
6 lane (3 each way) rural interstate is common enough that my opinion is that an "upgraded" interstate starts at 8 lanes. Otherwise you would be including, for example, all of I-95 in Florida, or all of I-75 in Georgia, or I-95 (various states) for a long distance north of Richmond, as "upgraded"
True, but I think that the rolling road blocks that occur when one truck slowly passes another are rare enough once you get to 6 lanes that it makes for a good cut-off point.
I'm looking foward to getting this atlas. I been using the one from 2009 and I'm not sure how much as changed since with the roadways.
Google maps is hard to focus on compared to a paper map.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on July 24, 2023, 02:44:21 PM
Quote from: ran4sh on July 13, 2023, 11:17:17 AM
6 lane (3 each way) rural interstate is common enough that my opinion is that an "upgraded" interstate starts at 8 lanes. Otherwise you would be including, for example, all of I-95 in Florida, or all of I-75 in Georgia, or I-95 (various states) for a long distance north of Richmond, as "upgraded"
True, but I think that the rolling road blocks that occur when one truck slowly passes another are rare enough once you get to 6 lanes that it makes for a good cut-off point.
I mostly agree, however it is increasingly common for truck drivers to ignore the lane restrictions on 6+ lane freeways, and use all lanes (with the one in the center lane passing the one on the right, while the one in the left lane passes both)
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Does Walmart still sell an inexpensive edition of the atlas?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Rand-McNally-2024-Road-Atlas-100th-Anniversary-Collector-s-Edition-Paperback-9780528027185/2189480469?from=searchResults
So the days of the $7.99 Walmart edition are gone...
I haven't been able to find a Walmart edition inside any store for at least a couple of years. Very disappointing!
Son of a bitch! My suspicion may be that this is the anniversary edition, and it's not exactly surprising that such issues will command higher prices than others. But even at $22.49, it's too rich for my blood. I'll just wait until later when the price drop occurs.
There was a huge price increase for the 2023 edition, to $14.97.
I haven't yet looked for the 2024 edition at the WalMarts in my area. I'll have to start looking for one.
Last week, I stumbled across a 2024 RMcN during a resupply stop at the WalMart in Forrest City AR. WalMart's price of $19.97 was printed n the front cover. Otherwise, no obvious difference from the non-WalMart versions of the 2024 atlas. In particular, none of the store directories included in previous WalMart editions. Disappointing, but I bought one anyway.