I am looking for examples of extreme railroad crossings going through roundabouts, massive or multiple intersections in a short distance, on a very wide road, at extremely skewed angles, ridiculously steep, an absurd number of tracks, awful sight distance, etc. Basically anything that is absurd or wildly dangerous. I am not counting street running tracks as part of this.
Main Street at Horne in Mesa, AZ has light rail trains running through a roundabout. Opened in 2019, according to ENR (https://www.enr.com/articles/47069-roundabout-for-light-rail-is-one-of-first-in-the-us).
(https://www.enr.com/ext/resources/Issues/Southwest_Issues/2019/06-June/24-June/pri-wsp-valley-metro-gilbert-road-lrt-roundabout-2.jpg?1560788810)
Just remembered where this one I was thinking of was:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/34%C2%B010'42.6%22N+77%C2%B057'00.1%22W/@34.1784961,-77.9506737,338m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d34.178495!4d-77.95003?entry=ttu
This is probably the most skewed crossing I know of. The tracks must cross at an inner angle of around 10 degrees or so.
Fort Collins, CO. We also have the street running, tho it's disqualified per the rules of the post.
I give you North College (287/14) at Maple/Jefferson. The tracks in the foreground are UP, and they go out to the former cement plant. They are infrequently used, but when they are, all the traffic lights here go into 'nobody moves' mode. Same thing happens if the crossing past the second light is triggered. To add to the fun, coming in from the right, is the merge from CO 14/Jefferson st. You get about 3 dotted lines worth of merge space before it becomes right-turn only. Lots of trucks use that slip lane, so the pro tip, is use the left lane through here unless you're turning right at Cherry/Willow (next light).
Where the gren building is being built, used to be a Taco Johns, right at the next light. The train didn't go through it's drive thru, but nearly did.
https://goo.gl/maps/xwaJ1SdxfqBY7u2eA (https://goo.gl/maps/xwaJ1SdxfqBY7u2eA)
There used to be another line, that crossed here almost perpendicular to the street, and there was a 'diamond' rail junction just off to the right.
If you click forward (go north) a coupla times, you'll see another crossing, the BNSF Front Range Sub.
As for "absurd number of tracks", here's one for you. Depending on how you count them, it either has 21 or 27 or 34 tracks.
Quote from: kphoger on January 20, 2021, 12:03:42 PM
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Quote from: kphoger on January 19, 2021, 06:54:02 PM
I just found one with 21 tracks (https://goo.gl/maps/EPquRa3WsXh8dReb6) in Galveston, TX.
What's interesting is that's only on the public side of the gate located at the end of the street; there are several more sets of tracks on the private property beyond it.
I count 19 tracks between Harborside and Port Industrial Blvd, then 8 or 9 more (depending on how you count the one that splits) between there and the fence gate. Not sure where they're getting 21 from.
There are 7 more in the private property, for a grand total of 35 train tracks.
OK, this took a lot longer than I care to admit...
The 21 tracks appear to be a combination of the auxiliary freight yard plus the mainline–but not including those tracks pertaining exclusively to the freight yard at the port itself. Going by Google satellite view, I've mapped out the rail lines below as well as I can. The green and blue crossings add up to 21.
Blue = Mainline railroad (or sidings that reconnect to the mainline)
Red = Port of Galveston freight yard sidings
Green = Auxiliary freight yard and spur lines
(https://i.imgur.com/Q35hT06.png)
Quote from: kphoger on January 21, 2021, 11:43:49 AM
Starting from the south:
HARBORSIDE DRIVE
1 BNSF mainline track
18 BNSF sidings
PORT INDUSTRIAL ROAD
2 BNSF mainline tracks
pavement ends
6 Port Rail / ADM Grain sidings
Gate #15
7 Port Rail / Pier 39 sidings
becomes WHARF ROAD
Amtrak's southern depot for the Auto Train in Sanford, Florida, is an odd one in that the vehicle check-in and passenger boarding is in the middle of a 10-track rail yard. (The yard itself has more than ten tracks, but only ten of them cross the road.) You cross several tracks and then turn into the vehicle check-in lane, which leads to a safety hazard when the check-in line is long and spills back out onto South Persimmon Avenue. The June 2019 Street View gives a sense of how it works; the two cars in front of the Google car are turning into the check-in queue. (https://goo.gl/maps/anaC9WfJxKTBTQ4P7)
The Google satellite image would be easier to follow if there had been cars lined up to check in, but what can you do. (https://www.google.com/maps/@28.8076534,-81.2890657,340m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) The passenger part of the station is at the top left; the platform extends to the right of that and the passenger cars use both sides of the platform. The auto carriers go across the lot on the seven sidings where you can see three yellow ramps. I'd hate to have to pass through there on South Persimmon Avenue at a time of day when the train is arriving or departing and they block the road to assemble or disassemble the very lengthy consist (typically about three-quarters of a mile with 40 to 50 railcars).
The intersection of Huguenot and Robious Roads in Bon Air, VA has a crossing cutting through it. It's a pretty busy intersection and both roads are four lanes.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/JSrcvY7ioozLWGjB8
The infamous railroad crossing on Shirley Highway in Virginia (now I-395) just north of Shirlington belongs in this thread. The crossing is long gone and the railroad shut down in 1968. I believe the road would have been designated VA-350 when this picture was taken because my understanding is that the I-95 numbering was only applied as the road was reconstructed to Interstate standards.
The brown building in the foreground is no longer there; a CubeSmart self-storage place occupies the site. The apartment or condo building in the background looks much the same today as it did then.
(https://external-preview.redd.it/cTjA5WByI0VQKF2iHnq2njJn4bXZY_pmLQ7sB8s1Sq8.jpg?auto=webp&v=enabled&s=77d6ad9b4be3562e1044822e3173e6b16fe054c1)
Edited to add another view of the spot:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.virginiaplaces.org%2Ftransportation%2Fgraphics%2Fshirleyrrcross.png&hash=587b93d51ab59635aabde92634e5bcfcb31b261e)
Edited to add one more. This is from 1947. The URL is wrong; this is Shirlington, not Rosslyn.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.virginiaplaces.org%2Ftransportation%2Fgraphics%2Fshirleyrosslyn.jpg&hash=d2818107f3673525540900935103ccea5b1fe68e)
The Atlantic City-Brigantine Connector (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3633521,-74.44458,3a,66.8y,1.82h,97.15t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDkeTfx7AanlNKnXjqPTMLw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DDkeTfx7AanlNKnXjqPTMLw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D158.74069%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), a freeway, has an at-grade railroad crossing for NJ Transit with terrible sight distance from the northbound lanes because they loop under the terminating Atlantic City Expressway before heading north.
Caliente siding in the Sierra Nevada Mountains is located in a 180 degree turn of the Union Pacific Railroad. I've been on Caliente-Bodfish Road once when a freight train encircled me on three sides.
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on June 23, 2023, 11:46:40 AM
The Atlantic City-Brigantine Connector (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3633521,-74.44458,3a,66.8y,1.82h,97.15t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDkeTfx7AanlNKnXjqPTMLw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DDkeTfx7AanlNKnXjqPTMLw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D158.74069%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), a freeway, has an at-grade railroad crossing for NJ Transit with terrible sight distance from the northbound lanes because they loop under the terminating Atlantic City Expressway before heading north.
I had read about the crossing on that road being quite controversial, and it made the FRA or some other agency very upset about safety issues. I never saw a problem with it (aside from the sight distance) - the crossing is exempt and trains have to stop before they cross the freeway.
With the sight distance, the advance warning lights are placed a bit too close for comfort. Knowing New Jersey drivers and their speed, people are probably tearing through it regardless of the speed limit, making the "TRAIN WHEN FLASHING" warning nowhere near the right distance. It should be at least another thousand feet up and clearly state "BE PREPARED TO STOP WHEN FLASHING" as well. Less frequently used drawbridges on freeways do better at this.
Quote from: Takumi on June 23, 2023, 11:23:03 AM
The intersection of Huguenot and Robious Roads in Bon Air, VA has a crossing cutting through it. It’s a pretty busy intersection and both roads are four lanes.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/JSrcvY7ioozLWGjB8 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/JSrcvY7ioozLWGjB8)
I have to wonder why they didn't bother with gates for the thru movements, especially for a crossing this massive. Maybe they were concerned they would impede the movement of emergency vehicles? I'm not too keen on an explanation like that because they could just use the oncoming lanes - traffic won't be coming through them anyway.
Quote from: Takumi on June 23, 2023, 11:23:03 AM
The intersection of Huguenot and Robious Roads in Bon Air, VA has a crossing cutting through it. It's a pretty busy intersection and both roads are four lanes.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/JSrcvY7ioozLWGjB8
If this counts, then University Avenue at Lincoln Avenue in Urbana, IL also counts. I used to regularly eat at the bagel shop on the corner here, and it was fun when I'd occasionally see a train come through. It's only a small branch line, so unfortunately that didn't happen so often.
https://goo.gl/maps/J2jUMTqW6JCZ4Y4x5
This one on US 93 near Ely, NV is pretty skewed and on a 60 mph road with no crossing guards:
https://goo.gl/maps/LaBSRxNM5Y7d7BVFA
I seem to remember another one in rural Nevada that's even faster that someone once posted.
Quote from: CoreySamson on June 23, 2023, 06:16:00 PM
This one on US 93 near Ely, NV is pretty skewed and on a 60 mph road with no crossing guards:
https://goo.gl/maps/LaBSRxNM5Y7d7BVFA
I seem to remember another one in rural Nevada that's even faster that someone once posted.
That crossing looks abandoned (piles of snow, tall grass, removal of crossbucks and turning the warning lights inside out)
Quote from: Bruce on June 23, 2023, 03:41:54 AM
Main Street at Horne in Mesa, AZ has light rail trains running through a roundabout. Opened in 2019, according to ENR (https://www.enr.com/articles/47069-roundabout-for-light-rail-is-one-of-first-in-the-us).
On a similar vein, Bloomington, MN is home to an LRT line running through a diverging diamond interchange (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.8622451,-93.2232176,323m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu).
I've always found it amusing to see road-standard rail signals (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9709544,-93.2527203,3a,75y,3.98h,92.58t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1snJds_9LWzxWGHlVHptm5AA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DnJds_9LWzxWGHlVHptm5AA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D343.36594%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) and gates on bike/ped paths (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.310475,-81.9710755,3a,75y,269.25h,96.44t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLb-ZvRpNMy2xIrC17w6jxA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DLb-ZvRpNMy2xIrC17w6jxA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D59.520008%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i3328!8i1664!5m1!1e3?entry=ttu).
The crossing at the University Ave/Campus Drive split in Madison, WI is pretty bad. The angle might not be as badly oblique as some of the others on this thread, but the number of lanes and the adjacent intersection make it interesting. https://goo.gl/maps/21mq3N2onFVgu4S7A
This is especially bad for bicyclists, because there is a small downhill in the eastbound direction on the University Ave approach to the intersection. I once watched someone go over the handlebars here at about 20 mph. He walked away (the front wheel was bent up pretty badly) but I always wondered if he needed any dental work afterwards.
Madison has a few others... while it was removed years ago, the siding for coal deliveries to the old UW heating/power plant used to result in trains blocking Charter Street for a solid 15 minutes as they approached from the east, stopped, and backed into the coal plant. On the other side of town, the tracks run diagonally through the Blair/Wilson/John Nolen/Williamson intersection. https://goo.gl/maps/8ufEPrPQjyitE3S89
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on June 23, 2023, 11:46:40 AM
The Atlantic City-Brigantine Connector (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3633521,-74.44458,3a,66.8y,1.82h,97.15t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDkeTfx7AanlNKnXjqPTMLw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DDkeTfx7AanlNKnXjqPTMLw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D158.74069%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), a freeway, has an at-grade railroad crossing for NJ Transit with terrible sight distance from the northbound lanes because they loop under the terminating Atlantic City Expressway before heading north.
Not far away, this is the first time I've seen a full-on freeway interchange *just* to service a high school:
https://goo.gl/maps/RwJ8zcp9nzHoocaW9
(https://goo.gl/maps/RwJ8zcp9nzHoocaW9)EDIT: It does appear to also provided a turnaround point for the public works just south of it. Still, that's a rather incredible use of a partial cloverleaf interchange.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 23, 2023, 12:04:20 PM
Caliente siding in the Sierra Nevada Mountains is located in a 180 degree turn of the Union Pacific Railroad. I've been on Caliente-Bodfish Road once when a freight train encircled me on three sides.
That's just down the (rail)road from the Tehachapi Loop, which is pretty cool.
Quote from: JREwing78 on June 23, 2023, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on June 23, 2023, 11:46:40 AM
The Atlantic City-Brigantine Connector (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3633521,-74.44458,3a,66.8y,1.82h,97.15t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDkeTfx7AanlNKnXjqPTMLw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DDkeTfx7AanlNKnXjqPTMLw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D158.74069%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), a freeway, has an at-grade railroad crossing for NJ Transit with terrible sight distance from the northbound lanes because they loop under the terminating Atlantic City Expressway before heading north.
Not far away, this is the first time I've seen a full-on freeway interchange *just* to service a high school:
https://goo.gl/maps/RwJ8zcp9nzHoocaW9
(https://goo.gl/maps/RwJ8zcp9nzHoocaW9)
Tupelo, MS (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.2314983,-88.7640575,998m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) has had one of those for decades...it dates at least back to the mid '90s.
The town of Vernon, CA has an amazing number of tracks snaking through the industrial area (which is pretty much the whole town), some along streets, but most merely crossing lots of streets. I'd post a Google Maps link, but they don't show rail lines. But you can see them in Google Earth.
Janesville has a couple of interesting rail crossings. Probably the most notorious is the "Five Points", situated right next to the Wisconsin & Southern Railroad terminal.
https://goo.gl/maps/WK1XsJdWL2ULN6Xm9 (https://goo.gl/maps/WK1XsJdWL2ULN6Xm9)
Currently, the two eastern legs (W Milwaukee St, W Court St) are one-way couplets (which shortly after revert to two-way streets; formerly they were one-way east through downtown to where they meet up near the fairgrounds). Westbound Milwaukee St traffic merges into the westbound lanes of W. Court St just as it goes through the intersection and crosses the tracks. But notice how the tracks are about a couple car lengths apart through this intersection.
Eastbound Court St traffic can elect to turn left onto Centerway, right onto Center Ave, or continue straight along Court St. Despite the left-turn lane having a perfect angle for it, traffic can NOT proceed directly across to W. Milwaukee St. Instead, traffic has to continue east to Academy St before traffic can return to Milwaukee St to follow it eastbound. Centerway/Center Ave is more-or-less a conventional roadway through here, staying just east of the railroad tracks.
What saves this from being a total disaster is that the signals default to green for E-W movements shortly before a train proceeds through, allowing traffic to clear the tracks. However, if a train lasts too long, traffic does tend to back up on all of the legs.
WisDOT has a reconstruction project planned for 2024, but it does not appear that the intersection will change appreciably.
https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/sw/us51intersection-janesville/default.aspx
Quote from: froggie on June 23, 2023, 07:11:57 PM
I've always found it amusing to see road-standard rail signals (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9709544,-93.2527203,3a,75y,3.98h,92.58t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1snJds_9LWzxWGHlVHptm5AA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DnJds_9LWzxWGHlVHptm5AA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D343.36594%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) and gates on bike/ped paths (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.310475,-81.9710755,3a,75y,269.25h,96.44t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLb-ZvRpNMy2xIrC17w6jxA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DLb-ZvRpNMy2xIrC17w6jxA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D59.520008%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i3328!8i1664!5m1!1e3?entry=ttu).
Whenever [traffic control devices] are deemed necessary for pedestrian-rail crossings, the standard flashing light signal (FLS) with crossbucks is required by the MUTCD (and so is the audible "bell"). The gates are not required, but are highly effective at discouraging pedestrians and bicyclists from entering the crossing when the signal is flashing. The [treatments] used at grade crossings are often subject to precedents, such that if the state DOT felt that an adjacent crossing with pedestrians needed gates, it is quite difficult for a municipal (or park) agency to avoid the use of pedestrian gates on a trail crossing.
How about two legs of a wye track in the middle of a roundabout (https://www.google.com/maps/@28.8021435,-81.7247208,81m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) on the Florida Central Railroad in Taveres, Florida?
Just wait until they build what's intended at the New York State Fair to improve safety along the line that runs right along the fairgrounds. Crossbucks and gates at the main gate is what I believe I saw.
And there's this doozy (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8522472,-96.8762828,130m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) near Love Field in Dallas, Texas.
It's been gone for more than a decade, but I recently mentioned the strangest railroad crossing in the universe (https://today.duke.edu/sites/default/files/legacy-files/styles/story_hero/public/PRT%201%20HERO.jpg?itok=lAG7D9-x) in another thread. This was actually a functional drawbridge for the Duke PRT system over the railroad spur that accessed the backup power generator for Duke Hospital in Durham, North Carolina. Both the so-called PRT system and the railroad spur were removed as part of the South Clinics infill development program.
Here's a brief description of the Duke PRT system for those who are interested: https://today.duke.edu/2017/12/remembering-duke%E2%80%99s-railway
The term Duke's Railway is misused, and actually meant the Duke PRT. The article is incorrect, as part of the PRT system remained in service until 2010; but this crossing was indeed removed in 2009.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the vehicles and trains on the Duke PRT were air-levitated and didn't have any wheels. Hence, strangest railroad crossing in the universe.
Quote from: pderocco on June 23, 2023, 08:13:54 PM
The town of Vernon, CA has an amazing number of tracks snaking through the industrial area (which is pretty much the whole town), some along streets, but most merely crossing lots of streets. I'd post a Google Maps link, but they don't show rail lines. But you can see them in Google Earth.
According to OpenRailwayMap (https://www.openrailwaymap.org/), a lot of them are abandoned or disued, which may be why they aren't mapped on Google. But a lot of them are still in service. Super interesting nonetheless.
Nearby Commerce is similar, and has a lot more in service, although the layout of the rails there is not as messy as Vernon.
Cerrillos Rd at S St Francis Dr in Santa Fe, NM comes to mind
https://goo.gl/maps/zo93y6GrCisPoAEQ8
A Diamond between two rail lines in the middle of FL 37 in Mulberry, FL.
the old A&Y line in Greensboro NC had a few interesting road crossings. The rails have since been ripped up, but street view preserves the crossings from when they were there.
going north we have:
Mcgee St (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0692781,-79.7985755,3a,90y,242.19h,74.54t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sEhAhByqo_h7sRmar8-KvFw!2e0!5s20170401T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu)
Battleground/Benjamin (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0817101,-79.8028102,3a,48.9y,-7.22h,85.41t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sutjWNwoUOb7aGFSdwCNCag!2e0!5s20160901T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu)
another on Battleground at westover (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0957845,-79.81665,3a,75y,319.1h,86.56t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sQzU6RQD6e4doQmm-lZKt5w!2e0!5s20170401T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu)
I got to see a train at the battleground/westover crossing years ago. It was a very funky set up that caused traffic issues. Folks would impulsively try to turn around or find another way, even though the train was like 3 cars long. :spin:
Quote from: Dirt Roads on June 23, 2023, 09:34:21 PM
It's been gone for more than a decade, but I recently mentioned the strangest railroad crossing in the universe (https://today.duke.edu/sites/default/files/legacy-files/styles/story_hero/public/PRT%201%20HERO.jpg?itok=lAG7D9-x) in another thread. This was actually a functional drawbridge for the Duke PRT system over the railroad spur that accessed the backup power generator for Duke Hospital in Durham, North Carolina. Both the so-called PRT system and the railroad spur were removed as part of the South Clinics infill development program.
Here's a brief description of the Duke PRT system for those who are interested: https://today.duke.edu/2017/12/remembering-duke%E2%80%99s-railway
The term Duke's Railway is misused, and actually meant the Duke PRT. The article is incorrect, as part of the PRT system remained in service until 2010; but this crossing was indeed removed in 2009.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the vehicles and trains on the Duke PRT were air-levitated and didn't have any wheels. Hence, strangest railroad crossing in the universe.
Thank you for the link! I actually rode the Duke Hospital PRT once when I was a kid - I only vaguely remember it, but I know I really enjoyed it at the time. That brings back memories.
Quote from: fillup420 on June 24, 2023, 08:33:23 AM
the old A&Y line in Greensboro NC had a few interesting road crossings. The rails have since been ripped up, but street view preserves the crossings from when they were there.
going north we have:
Mcgee St (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0692781,-79.7985755,3a,90y,242.19h,74.54t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sEhAhByqo_h7sRmar8-KvFw!2e0!5s20170401T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu)
Battleground/Benjamin (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0817101,-79.8028102,3a,48.9y,-7.22h,85.41t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sutjWNwoUOb7aGFSdwCNCag!2e0!5s20160901T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu)
another on Battleground at westover (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0957845,-79.81665,3a,75y,319.1h,86.56t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sQzU6RQD6e4doQmm-lZKt5w!2e0!5s20170401T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu)
I got to see a train at the battleground/westover crossing years ago. It was a very funky set up that caused traffic issues. Folks would impulsively try to turn around or find another way, even though the train was like 3 cars long. :spin:
The singular crossing signal head on one of the crossing gantries is really unusual.
Quote from: roadman65 on June 24, 2023, 07:49:51 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/zo93y6GrCisPoAEQ8 (https://goo.gl/maps/zo93y6GrCisPoAEQ8)
A Diamond between two rail lines in the middle of FL 37 in Mulberry, FL.
I looked up footage of that crossing after I saw your post, and it looks like the gate on Phosphate Blvd goes down when a train uses the more skewed crossing. That is totally pointless. The train isn't even in the way. That is a common thing I've noticed with a lot of crossings where multiple roads/intersections are involved. They'll put gates down even where traffic has absolutely no risk of colliding with a train, such as blocking all right turns instead of some at intersections where railroad tracks come through.
At the more northerly crossing nearby this one, there is also a very old and rare crossing signal used to tell drivers not to turn right when a train is coming, which is an interesting find:
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.8946025,-81.9743036,3a,15y,6.38h,92.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJKdEvnKEqVwcD_Mwo8rmOw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Railroad tracks in a roundabout? Santa Cruz has entered the chat. (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9628701,-122.0241181,19z?entry=ttu)
I read this thread, then I watched Bumblebee. I'm on a two-week trial of Paramount+ because I missed the start of the Tony's. I won't be renewing the service, but in Bumblebee the main character works at an amusement park with railroad tracks running through a heavy pedestrian area. I looked it up and found out it is the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk, and yes those are technically active railroad tracks, though they look rusty on the San Lorenzo River Crossing.
Here's one that's not a railroad crossing but uses railroad crossing equipment:
https://www.google.com/maps/@61.1799938,-149.9829724,3a,20.2y,339.48h,90.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssrAj4-gp-Rir56rJBHHwyg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Is there a dedicated thread for this kind of thing?
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0899389,-95.8595427,603m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu
Quote from: index on June 29, 2023, 04:55:43 PM
Here's one that's not a railroad crossing but uses railroad crossing equipment:
https://www.google.com/maps/@61.1799938,-149.9829724,3a,20.2y,339.48h,90.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssrAj4-gp-Rir56rJBHHwyg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Is there a dedicated thread for this kind of thing?
Somebody forgot to invite me to this party! Looks like a job for four-quadrant gates.
There's an equipment crossing in Granite City, IL that uses railroad-sytle lights and gates. (https://goo.gl/maps/UHRRi227BEYLZbeL6)
For crossing at an angle far from 90 degrees, I'll nominate this one on Grand Avenue in Elmwood Park, IL, (https://goo.gl/maps/hP2oc5PY29dHHmHm8) that even has overhead signs warning of the long crossing. (https://goo.gl/maps/siULXuYGRg1EJMkH6)
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 29, 2023, 10:31:34 PM
There's an equipment crossing in Granite City, IL that uses railroad-sytle lights and gates. (https://goo.gl/maps/UHRRi227BEYLZbeL6)
If that mill (U.S. Steel Granite City Works) uses anything close to what they have at U.S. Steel Gary Works, that crossing is definitely more than justified.
They're also really good at violating the MUTCD... unfortunately I can't provide examples because they made me sign an NDA.
Quote from: Evan_Th on June 24, 2023, 02:53:43 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on June 23, 2023, 09:34:21 PM
It's been gone for more than a decade, but I recently mentioned the strangest railroad crossing in the universe (https://today.duke.edu/sites/default/files/legacy-files/styles/story_hero/public/PRT%201%20HERO.jpg?itok=lAG7D9-x) in another thread. This was actually a functional drawbridge for the Duke PRT system over the railroad spur that accessed the backup power generator for Duke Hospital in Durham, North Carolina. Both the so-called PRT system and the railroad spur were removed as part of the South Clinics infill development program.
Here's a brief description of the Duke PRT system for those who are interested: https://today.duke.edu/2017/12/remembering-duke%E2%80%99s-railway
The term Duke's Railway is misused, and actually meant the Duke PRT. The article is incorrect, as part of the PRT system remained in service until 2010; but this crossing was indeed removed in 2009.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the vehicles and trains on the Duke PRT were air-levitated and didn't have any wheels. Hence, strangest railroad crossing in the universe.
Thank you for the link! I actually rode the Duke Hospital PRT once when I was a kid - I only vaguely remember it, but I know I really enjoyed it at the time. That brings back memories.
Bumping the above-quoted discussion of the Duke Hospital PRT because an alumni e-mail this morning includes a video about it and I figured someone might be interested. It's about a minute long.
https://today.duke.edu/2024/03/remembering-duke-hospitals-futuristic-tram?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=The%20little%20tram%20that%20could&utm_campaign=dukeweekly2024_03_23
When we went from Québec to Montréal back in May 2023 via Autoroute 20 / Trans-Canada Highway (Route transcanadienne) west / ouest, there was this railroad crossing on the mainline just before/after exit/sortie 130 (to QC 137/235) in Saint-Hyacinthe. Not sure how often it's used though.
Warning sign (400 m / ¼ mi (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6444379,-72.9650357,3a,75y,244.17h,91.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9X5_CIXxnqCCJ2_FRuNU9w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu))
Actual railroad crossing (Streetview (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6428073,-72.9690445,3a,30y,227.25h,88.44t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1stuCo04MhFZqMisHWO6WwNw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DtuCo04MhFZqMisHWO6WwNw%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D45.87368%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), Video 1 (2011) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWZjWQqVW-Y), Video 2 (2013) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQOxTXpVxd4), Video 3 (2019) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOxH6wn7AEY), Video 4 (2020) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLMSQerjE4k))
There's this one outside Richmond where a RR crossing goes through the middle of a major intersection
https://maps.app.goo.gl/KtJPc8Z3dh4B5nmGA
There's a pretty rough crossing in Holly, MI where the CN Holly Subdivision crosses Fish Lake Road, west of town. The rail line travels along a hillside, so Fish Lake Road has a pretty sharp dip in the pavement crossing the tracks. At the crossing, there are scrape marks on the asphalt where many vehicles and trailers bottomed out on the road while making the crossing. This is a dangerous crossing, especially during slippery road conditions and poor visibility. Trains frequently travel through here going about 30 to 45 mph.
Here's a motorist's perspective of first seeing the crossing while traveling northbound on Fish Lake Road. Notice the sharp dip in the road at the crossing.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7966932,-83.6475208,3a,15.1y,358.8h,84.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sy7hdCMxLQXpT2MMcQyNlrA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Look at the scrape marks in the pavement!
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7979379,-83.6476009,3a,75y,252.24h,58.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGnuAtdlfxrvWc6iuWcSbcw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1215781,-78.8757671,3a,37.5y,269.43h,89.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJyaU78aMdO-jBJgzM5CpwA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1215781,-78.8757671,3a,37.5y,269.43h,89.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJyaU78aMdO-jBJgzM5CpwA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
One of a few along US 701 between Loris, SC and Tabor City, NC, although I don't believe this railroad line is still functional.
A pretty ordinary crossing, but the locals' decoration of the trestle turned it into a trollbridge.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/vTzQhHNt7o1rFFzXA (https://maps.app.goo.gl/vTzQhHNt7o1rFFzXA)
Two in my area:
For an oblique crossing, CA 118 between Moorpark and Somis (active, on the commuter/freight line between Ventura and LA): https://www.google.com/maps/@34.2712443,-118.9404537,146m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu
Oxnard, CA, has a track running through a "five-points' intersection (which for a long time included CA 1): https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1899038,-119.1774611,87m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu - this railroad isn't as active, but still sees regular train traffic, and it's a very busy intersection for autos.
Quote from: epzik8 on March 23, 2024, 04:28:51 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1215781,-78.8757671,3a,37.5y,269.43h,89.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJyaU78aMdO-jBJgzM5CpwA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1215781,-78.8757671,3a,37.5y,269.43h,89.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJyaU78aMdO-jBJgzM5CpwA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
One of a few along US 701 between Loris, SC and Tabor City, NC, although I don't believe this railroad line is still functional.
That's an RJ Corman-owned shortline per the ENS signage. It appears that's part of the RJ Corman Carolina Lines (RJCS), and probably sees, at best, two trains a day.
https://www.rjcorman.com/companies/railroad-company/our-short-lines/carolina-lines-rjcs
The infamous Crazy Corner in Ada, Oklahoma. The intersection of Arlington and Mississippi has a BNSF mainline running through it. See here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/4STVPaC8FxgRNmYm8
The Arkansas, Louisiana & Mississippi RR crosses US 165 at a very tight angle: Loop Rd
https://maps.app.goo.gl/zbbn8kF65JGwRxNp7
The rail line that roughly follows OR-127 up to US-30 merges into the main line on the other side of US-30 by tunneling under it at an extremely shallow angle, and it's well-hidden in the trees. Here's the location:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ETskKZegPXKDegdp8 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/ETskKZegPXKDegdp8)
You can glimpse the mouth of the tunnel in Street View here:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/7zQu9r5KwmFsPGpG6 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/7zQu9r5KwmFsPGpG6)
I don't know if that line is still in use, but if it is, it's pretty rarely. But I always liked the way they squeezed it in.
Quote from: dantheman on June 23, 2023, 07:16:02 PMThe crossing at the University Ave/Campus Drive split in Madison, WI is pretty bad. The angle might not be as badly oblique as some of the others on this thread, but the number of lanes and the adjacent intersection make it interesting. https://goo.gl/maps/21mq3N2onFVgu4S7A
This is especially bad for bicyclists, because there is a small downhill in the eastbound direction on the University Ave approach to the intersection. I once watched someone go over the handlebars here at about 20 mph. He walked away (the front wheel was bent up pretty badly) but I always wondered if he needed any dental work afterwards.
Madison has a few others... while it was removed years ago, the siding for coal deliveries to the old UW heating/power plant used to result in trains blocking Charter Street for a solid 15 minutes as they approached from the east, stopped, and backed into the coal plant. On the other side of town, the tracks run diagonally through the Blair/Wilson/John Nolen/Williamson intersection. https://goo.gl/maps/8ufEPrPQjyitE3S89
The John Nolen/Olin intersection also has tracks running through it diagonally (https://maps.app.goo.gl/cUcGeybUDSQajFzZ9), though at least one leg of that intersection is just the entrance to a park. Bonus danger points for not having a gate on the bike path, though.
Northeast of Madison, there are two grade (https://maps.app.goo.gl/HpMLHyy2GQUVJ3qi6) crossings (https://maps.app.goo.gl/eWmL4TWxdMDGigm19) on a four-lane, 65 MPH section of US 151. They're definitely active crossings too; here's a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWTzY3lynK4) of the Beaver Dam crossing in action.
There's also this crossing on the freeway segment of WA-432 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/RnDCu8boBUuvG1XE8), which had regular train traffic until a few years back.
I recently found this in North Walpole, NH - a crossing on a two-way road where only one side has a gate - and was wondering if there were any more examples. This isn't particularly crazy but I don't want to start a thread for something so specific.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZKWaCZZqsMm1xd8J7
Quote from: index on December 12, 2024, 06:06:06 AMI recently found this in North Walpole, NH - a crossing on a two-way road where only one side has a gate - and was wondering if there were any more examples. This isn't particularly crazy but I don't want to start a thread for something so specific.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZKWaCZZqsMm1xd8J7
What's up with those Yield signs for pedestrians? Do people walk down the train tracks?
Quote from: GaryV on December 12, 2024, 07:33:37 AMQuote from: index on December 12, 2024, 06:06:06 AMI recently found this in North Walpole, NH - a crossing on a two-way road where only one side has a gate - and was wondering if there were any more examples. This isn't particularly crazy but I don't want to start a thread for something so specific.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZKWaCZZqsMm1xd8J7
What's up with those Yield signs for pedestrians? Do people walk down the train tracks?
Probably something to do with the sidewalk ending on the north side with pedestrians needing to be in the road to get by the crossing. And maybe the bridge that closed ages ago.
Quote from: index on December 12, 2024, 06:06:06 AMI recently found this in North Walpole, NH - a crossing on a two-way road where only one side has a gate - and was wondering if there were any more examples. This isn't particularly crazy but I don't want to start a thread for something so specific.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZKWaCZZqsMm1xd8J7
Looks like there was a second gate there previously, just one of the gate masts was wiped-out (most likely by a vehicle) when street view went though:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/North+Walpole,+Walpole,+NH/@43.1353374,-72.4393102,3a,39.3y,292.86h,89.9t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sjdNlI1CuRykEwOzJGsmm7A!2e0!5s20180901T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D0.10488965557841823%26panoid%3DjdNlI1CuRykEwOzJGsmm7A%26yaw%3D292.8642466496348!7i13312!8i6656!4m7!3m6!1s0x89e1a48a600e3c25:0x443c04678f099750!8m2!3d43.1390125!4d-72.447601!10e5!16s%2Fm%2F0gkxb19!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIwOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
That being said, I am aware of a good few crossings around the US with only one gate arm at them, despite being on two-way roads:
http://www.rxrsignals.com/Alabama/A-F/Banks/AL201/
http://www.rxrsignals.com/Alabama/A-F/Brewton/Deer/
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4338739,-79.7072042,3a,55.4y,107.73h,90.17t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sQPJGnAcY9wAWf0XYO4JFWg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-0.17372507147464944%26panoid%3DQPJGnAcY9wAWf0XYO4JFWg%26yaw%3D107.73287615901532!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIwOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Video of the above crossing as well:
I remember seeing a similar crossing somewhere in Ohio years ago on a former Conrail line, though I can't recall exactly where off the top of my head.
EDIT: Found it! Unfortunately, per street view, it has since been replaced with a standard gated install with two gates:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3960555,-81.0897664,3a,41.7y,33.51h,84.09t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1s1Ud0zStD_Ft1ZQDjRNXO1w!2e0!5s20120701T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D5.906472164593183%26panoid%3D1Ud0zStD_Ft1ZQDjRNXO1w%26yaw%3D33.50552830824438!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
I suspect that originally, there would've been a second signalized crossing on the other side of the creek, for the line that used to be where the trail now is, which would've had a similar set-up to that one with the two operating together as one large crossing. Basically something similar to this crossing (http://www.rxrsignals.com/Ohio/L-Q/Lewis_Center/Orange/), once upon a time.
One can see the remains of an at-grade railroad crossing across a controlled-access highway on U.S. 63 near Columbia, MO. It's since been replaced by a grade-separated railroad bridge, but there's a patch of newer concrete (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9903172,-92.2888473,3a,75y,125.91h,86.94t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sCLaJxFLtFgVukRUdOrNXlA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D3.058433617985031%26panoid%3DCLaJxFLtFgVukRUdOrNXlA%26yaw%3D125.9105478855919!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D) where the old crossing used to be, including the outer shoulder, which is otherwise asphalt.
Quote from: Gnutella on January 25, 2025, 10:01:02 PMOne can see the remains of an at-grade railroad crossing across a controlled-access highway on U.S. 63 near Columbia, MO. It's since been replaced by a grade-separated railroad bridge, but there's a patch of newer concrete (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9903172,-92.2888473,3a,75y,125.91h,86.94t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sCLaJxFLtFgVukRUdOrNXlA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D3.058433617985031%26panoid%3DCLaJxFLtFgVukRUdOrNXlA%26yaw%3D125.9105478855919!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D) where the old crossing used to be, including the outer shoulder, which is otherwise asphalt.
Google Earth historical imagery shows that the new alignment of US-63, which provoked the creation of that grade crossing, happened around 1985. They fixed it in 2010. How did a mess like that survive for 25 years?
Quote from: epzik8 on March 23, 2024, 04:28:51 PMhttps://www.google.com/maps/@34.1215781,-78.8757671,3a,37.5y,269.43h,89.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJyaU78aMdO-jBJgzM5CpwA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1215781,-78.8757671,3a,37.5y,269.43h,89.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJyaU78aMdO-jBJgzM5CpwA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
One of a few along US 701 between Loris, SC and Tabor City, NC, although I don't believe this railroad line is still functional.
Forgive me for asking, but what is weird about that crossing, other than missing a crossbuck for opposing traffic? It just looks like a driveway crossing a railroad to me. Pretty common in rural areas. (
for example (https://maps.app.goo.gl/yeDz8YHKtSxBVPSt7))
Around here, it's pretty easy to find a crossing that just empties out into a field—not even a proper driveway. (
for example (https://maps.app.goo.gl/TnkjpSLQbRnwBkwc9))
Urban tram lines in European cities cross streets EVERYWHERE, using nearly every track configuration imaginable. Major street intersections, roundabouts, etc, it often doesn't matter. Traffic is normally controlled with signals that apply to the tram cars and are timed into the regular RYG cycles of the street. In a more extreme example, in Nederlands, it is also not unusual for there to be FOUR different sets of signals at one intersection, One set applying to cars and trucks, the second pedestrians, the third bicycles and the fourth tram cars, set to cycle for most efficent traffic throughput.
Mike
Quote from: kphoger on January 27, 2025, 11:19:35 AMQuote from: epzik8 on March 23, 2024, 04:28:51 PMhttps://www.google.com/maps/@34.1215781,-78.8757671,3a,37.5y,269.43h,89.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJyaU78aMdO-jBJgzM5CpwA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1215781,-78.8757671,3a,37.5y,269.43h,89.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJyaU78aMdO-jBJgzM5CpwA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
One of a few along US 701 between Loris, SC and Tabor City, NC, although I don't believe this railroad line is still functional.
Forgive me for asking, but what is weird about that crossing, other than missing a crossbuck for opposing traffic? It just looks like a driveway crossing a railroad to me. Pretty common in rural areas. (for example (https://maps.app.goo.gl/yeDz8YHKtSxBVPSt7))
Around here, it's pretty easy to find a crossing that just empties out into a field—not even a proper driveway. (for example (https://maps.app.goo.gl/TnkjpSLQbRnwBkwc9))
Thanks for enlightening me
Quote from: epzik8 on January 27, 2025, 02:04:19 PMThanks for enlightening me
Umm... thanks?
All that isn't to say that it isn't interesting. Specifically, the single crossbuck has me wondering. Scrolling back through GSV time, I don't see any evidence of a corresponding crossbuck on the other side of the crossing. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but the signage standard by the time it was installed was already calling for the addition of a stop or yield sign, wasn't it?
Quote from: kphoger on January 27, 2025, 11:19:35 AMQuote from: epzik8 on March 23, 2024, 04:28:51 PMhttps://www.google.com/maps/@34.1215781,-78.8757671,3a,37.5y,269.43h,89.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJyaU78aMdO-jBJgzM5CpwA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1215781,-78.8757671,3a,37.5y,269.43h,89.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJyaU78aMdO-jBJgzM5CpwA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
One of a few along US 701 between Loris, SC and Tabor City, NC, although I don't believe this railroad line is still functional.
Forgive me for asking, but what is weird about that crossing, other than missing a crossbuck for opposing traffic? It just looks like a driveway crossing a railroad to me. Pretty common in rural areas. (for example (https://maps.app.goo.gl/yeDz8YHKtSxBVPSt7))
Around here, it's pretty easy to find a crossing that just empties out into a field—not even a proper driveway. (for example (https://maps.app.goo.gl/TnkjpSLQbRnwBkwc9))
Oh, you want crossbucks...or signage? The only sign posted at these crossings is the blue sign to call in event of an issue at the crossing.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/jj66r7hxgnSQoQ9P6
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FLMwQXbNnf6vy5hcA
Back in the early 90s on the west side of Toledo, OH, Westwood Avenue used to cross an insane number of tracks, practically in the middle of the rail yard.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/prN9oB3zDYfTfDjEA
I think the city finally relinquished that section of Westwood to the railroad around the turn of the century. Back then there had to have been at least 10 tracks one would have to cross.
Quote from: thenetwork on January 27, 2025, 06:04:55 PMBack in the early 90s on the west side of Toledo, OH, Westwood Avenue used to cross an insane number of tracks, practically in the middle of the rail yard.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/prN9oB3zDYfTfDjEA
I think the city finally relinquished that section of Westwood to the railroad around the turn of the century. Back then there had to have been at least 10 tracks one would have to cross.
That's a great link to the City of Toledo.
Quote from: thenetwork on January 27, 2025, 06:04:55 PMhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/prN9oB3zDYfTfDjEA
Quote from: Rothman on January 27, 2025, 06:47:08 PMThat's a great link to the City of Toledo.
Here, try this one instead.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/eePCBCfJ3LqkF14z9
Quote from: mgk920 on January 27, 2025, 01:02:14 PMUrban tram lines in European cities cross streets EVERYWHERE, using nearly every track configuration imaginable. Major street intersections, roundabouts, etc, it often doesn't matter. Traffic is normally controlled with signals that apply to the tram cars and are timed into the regular RYG cycles of the street. In a more extreme example, in Nederlands, it is also not unusual for there to be FOUR different sets of signals at one intersection, One set applying to cars and trucks, the second pedestrians, the third bicycles and the fourth tram cars, set to cycle for most efficent traffic throughput.
Should be: the most efficient traffic throughput possible with four sets of signals. Bugger the bicycles.
Quote from: Rothman on January 27, 2025, 06:47:08 PMQuote from: thenetwork on January 27, 2025, 06:04:55 PMBack in the early 90s on the west side of Toledo, OH, Westwood Avenue used to cross an insane number of tracks, practically in the middle of the rail yard.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/prN9oB3zDYfTfDjEA
I think the city finally relinquished that section of Westwood to the railroad around the turn of the century. Back then there had to have been at least 10 tracks one would have to cross.
That's a great link to the City of Toledo.
That's the first time I tried to share a Google Maps link showing a specific aerial view and it instead goes to a default view of the city in question.
I should copy this post verbatim and paste it under the "Google.Maps F*cking Sucks Now" theead.
Quote from: pderocco on January 28, 2025, 03:49:54 AMQuote from: mgk920 on January 27, 2025, 01:02:14 PMUrban tram lines in European cities cross streets EVERYWHERE, using nearly every track configuration imaginable. Major street intersections, roundabouts, etc, it often doesn't matter. Traffic is normally controlled with signals that apply to the tram cars and are timed into the regular RYG cycles of the street. In a more extreme example, in Nederlands, it is also not unusual for there to be FOUR different sets of signals at one intersection, One set applying to cars and trucks, the second pedestrians, the third bicycles and the fourth tram cars, set to cycle for most efficent traffic throughput.
Should be: the most efficient traffic throughput possible with four sets of signals. Bugger the bicycles.
Bicycles have been a DEEPLY integral part of the very fiber of Dutch culture ever since they were first invented and introduced in the late 19th century.
Mike
Quote from: thenetwork on January 28, 2025, 07:25:51 AMQuote from: Rothman on January 27, 2025, 06:47:08 PMQuote from: thenetwork on January 27, 2025, 06:04:55 PMBack in the early 90s on the west side of Toledo, OH, Westwood Avenue used to cross an insane number of tracks, practically in the middle of the rail yard.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/prN9oB3zDYfTfDjEA
I think the city finally relinquished that section of Westwood to the railroad around the turn of the century. Back then there had to have been at least 10 tracks one would have to cross.
That's a great link to the City of Toledo.
That's the first time I tried to share a Google Maps link showing a specific aerial view and it instead goes to a default view of the city in question.
I should copy this post verbatim and paste it under the "Google.Maps F*cking Sucks Now" theead.
Did you have the search text still there when you did the others? I believe that overrides some view settings on shared links.
Quote from: vdeane on January 28, 2025, 12:33:10 PMQuote from: thenetwork on January 28, 2025, 07:25:51 AMQuote from: Rothman on January 27, 2025, 06:47:08 PMQuote from: thenetwork on January 27, 2025, 06:04:55 PMBack in the early 90s on the west side of Toledo, OH, Westwood Avenue used to cross an insane number of tracks, practically in the middle of the rail yard.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/prN9oB3zDYfTfDjEA
I think the city finally relinquished that section of Westwood to the railroad around the turn of the century. Back then there had to have been at least 10 tracks one would have to cross.
That's a great link to the City of Toledo.
That's the first time I tried to share a Google Maps link showing a specific aerial view and it instead goes to a default view of the city in question.
I should copy this post verbatim and paste it under the "Google.Maps F*cking Sucks Now" theead.
Did you have the search text still there when you did the others? I believe that overrides some view settings on shared links.
One more try...
https://maps.app.goo.gl/RLt5w7Q9Th8XJELt7
BTW, the "gap" is where the street once crossed.
Mansfield OH may be similar crossing 5 tracks (7 within 2000 feet)
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NFTvjx1aW8n1SQsP7
Wonder what road has the most railroad tracks to cross in the United States
S Holgate St. in Seattle. The crossings on the east side are still there, but until 2016, the west side tracks also had 6 crossings.
Overview: https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5863674,-122.3309958,119m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Quote from: michiganguy123 on January 28, 2025, 05:45:30 PMMansfield OH may be similar crossing 5 tracks (7 within 2000 feet)
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NFTvjx1aW8n1SQsP7
Nice to see some surviving Lex-C lights on those gateless signals there!
Quote from: michiganguy123 on January 28, 2025, 05:45:30 PMWonder what road has the most railroad tracks to cross in the United States
If you're curious about the most tracks any one road crosses at any one crossing that's signed, the answer is 14 in Wichita, KS:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7375076,-97.3349112,3a,48.9y,265.78h,97.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spL_CHqAibLksvTKKpp7dlQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-7.620230825751278%26panoid%3DpL_CHqAibLksvTKKpp7dlQ%26yaw%3D265.7792161235287!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
The largest crossing in general is this 19-track crossing in Galveston, TX, though it ain't signed at all:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.302914,-94.8104366,3a,41.2y,336.6h,90.07t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxyTJb1r9fk-nkrRY5EEGwg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-0.06794657550481986%26panoid%3DxyTJb1r9fk-nkrRY5EEGwg%26yaw%3D336.6043381835804!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Guys, there's
a whole thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=10687.0) about the greatest number of tracks to cross.
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 28, 2025, 08:16:13 PMThe largest crossing in general is this 19-track crossing in Galveston, TX, though it ain't signed at all:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.302914,-94.8104366,3a,41.2y,336.6h,90.07t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxyTJb1r9fk-nkrRY5EEGwg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-0.06794657550481986%26panoid%3DxyTJb1r9fk-nkrRY5EEGwg%26yaw%3D336.6043381835804!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
This one is tricky for a number of reasons:
1. The BNSF siding spurs are
inside a split of the mainline itself.
2. Port Industrial Road is also
inside that same split.
3. There is no crossbuck facing either way from Port Industrial Road.
The above three points seem to suggest that not just the first (1) BNSF mainline track and the (18) BNSF auxiliary/spur tracks should be counted together, but also at least the other (2) BNSF mainline tracks on the other side of Port Industrial Road. These together make 21 BNSF tracks that just happen to have a cross-street stuck in the middle of them.
4. This is confirmed by
past signage (https://maps.app.goo.gl/aJNLMxStE3UiKbPu5), which indeed counted the crossing as 21 tracks.
5. And that only gets you to the Port tracks. After the end of the pavement, for a few years
there used to be (https://maps.app.goo.gl/SMhvgZ1gdE1BZ9y36) 6 more Port/ADM siding tracks
before Gate 15 (note the crossbuck between those 6 siding tracks and the other 21 tracks).
6. And
there still are (https://maps.app.goo.gl/G2DXyf4y5hSzHMeS7) 7 more Port/Pier siding tracks inside the gate.
So, basically, 19 is the minimum number of tracks to be counted here but, in my opinion, 21 is just as valid of a count. For a period of time there were even 27 tracks to be crossed, with no additional crossbuck in between, before getting to Gate 15. And at that time, if you had access to get through the gate, then you could have crossed 34 tracks at one shot, but that number has now been dropped to 28.
Quote from: kphoger on January 20, 2021, 12:03:42 PMOK, this took a lot longer than I care to admit...
The 21 tracks appear to be a combination of the auxiliary freight yard plus the mainline–but not including those tracks pertaining exclusively to the freight yard at the port itself. Going by Google satellite view, I've mapped out the rail lines below as well as I can. The green and blue crossings add up to 21.
Blue = Mainline railroad (or sidings that reconnect to the mainline)
Red = Port of Galveston freight yard sidings
Green = Auxiliary freight yard and spur lines
(https://i.imgur.com/Q35hT06.png)
Quote from: kphoger on January 21, 2021, 11:43:49 AMStarting from the south:
HARBORSIDE DRIVE
1 BNSF mainline track
18 BNSF sidings
PORT INDUSTRIAL ROAD
2 BNSF mainline tracks
pavement ends
6 Port Rail / ADM Grain sidings
Gate #15
7 Port Rail / Pier 39 sidings
becomes WHARF ROAD
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 28, 2025, 08:16:13 PMThe largest crossing in general is this 19-track crossing in Galveston, TX, though it ain't signed at all:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.302914,-94.8104366,3a,41.2y,336.6h,90.07t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxyTJb1r9fk-nkrRY5EEGwg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-0.06794657550481986%26panoid%3DxyTJb1r9fk-nkrRY5EEGwg%26yaw%3D336.6043381835804!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Given that the cracks are full of dirt, it doesn't look like any trains have actually gone over most of those in a long, long time.
Quote from: pderocco on January 29, 2025, 03:02:31 PMGiven that the cracks are full of dirt, it doesn't look like any trains have actually gone over most of those in a long, long time.
As I had mentioned, only one of those tracks is actually the mainline. The rest are siding spurs, so of course their use is infrequent.
Anything stored to the east of 37th Street has to have crossed 37th Street in order to get there. And, if you scroll through the timeline in GSV, then it's obvious they do use it for storage.
Going from most recent to oldest, only one of these shows an empty yard there:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/hJqPJoMzHxaP9YYm9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/F752bu6MfhDBsNqz8
https://maps.app.goo.gl/AyNMi63zVSg5nHdp7
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ey7Cx7nsBnKvKLCP9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/cjupFuigE3qToL7L8
https://maps.app.goo.gl/nGTg8i6QwNLEKMgS7
Quote from: kphoger on January 29, 2025, 03:24:16 PMQuote from: pderocco on January 29, 2025, 03:02:31 PMGiven that the cracks are full of dirt, it doesn't look like any trains have actually gone over most of those in a long, long time.
As I had mentioned, only one of those tracks is actually the mainline. The rest are siding spurs, so of course their use is infrequent.
Anything stored to the east of 37th Street has to have crossed 37th Street in order to get there. And, if you scroll through the timeline in GSV, then it's obvious they do use it for storage.
Going from most recent to oldest, only one of these shows an empty yard there:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/hJqPJoMzHxaP9YYm9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/F752bu6MfhDBsNqz8
https://maps.app.goo.gl/AyNMi63zVSg5nHdp7
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ey7Cx7nsBnKvKLCP9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/cjupFuigE3qToL7L8
https://maps.app.goo.gl/nGTg8i6QwNLEKMgS7
It appears that BNSF is also currently using the yard as a deadline to store retired locomotives, and I doubt too many of those would be getting pulled back out and reactivated anytime soon, especially given the very cheap way BNSF renumbered a few of those Dash-8s (just changing the numberboards and striking-out the old number on the sides of the cabs).
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 29, 2025, 03:52:49 PMIt appears that BNSF is also currently using the yard as a deadline to store retired locomotives, and I doubt too many of those would be getting pulled back out and reactivated anytime soon, especially given the very cheap way BNSF renumbered a few of those Dash-8s (just changing the numberboards and striking-out the old number on the sides of the cabs).
I'm seeing plenty of locomotives having been moved out of there between the 2022, 2023, and 2024 GSV shots.
SEP 2022 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/KRC12bUtHEUQ56xz8)
JUN 2023 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/qj2rgxTEeEQCLcsX7)
APR 2024 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/PoKdCQB6MtzZXu1U8)
Quote from: kphoger on January 29, 2025, 03:24:16 PMQuote from: pderocco on January 29, 2025, 03:02:31 PMGiven that the cracks are full of dirt, it doesn't look like any trains have actually gone over most of those in a long, long time.
As I had mentioned, only one of those tracks is actually the mainline. The rest are siding spurs, so of course their use is infrequent.
Anything stored to the east of 37th Street has to have crossed 37th Street in order to get there. And, if you scroll through the timeline in GSV, then it's obvious they do use it for storage.
Going from most recent to oldest, only one of these shows an empty yard there:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/hJqPJoMzHxaP9YYm9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/F752bu6MfhDBsNqz8
https://maps.app.goo.gl/AyNMi63zVSg5nHdp7
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ey7Cx7nsBnKvKLCP9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/cjupFuigE3qToL7L8
https://maps.app.goo.gl/nGTg8i6QwNLEKMgS7
I guess rolling a rail car across a road may squeeze the sand out of the cracks, but they fill back up faster than I thought.
This is the highest number of tracks I've seen for a grade crossing in New England, and in every railfanning video I've seen of it in operation, drivers end up partially blocking the tracks.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/wPvLTzvao5Zvr1zP7 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/wPvLTzvao5Zvr1zP7)
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on February 03, 2025, 11:57:12 AMThis is the highest number of tracks I've seen for a grade crossing in New England, and in every railfanning video I've seen of it in operation, drivers end up partially blocking the tracks.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/wPvLTzvao5Zvr1zP7 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/wPvLTzvao5Zvr1zP7)
And you cannot bridge the street over the rails there due to the airport runway threshold that it is under.
Mike
Mike
I think the most extreme crossing in Utah is this 7-track crossing (https://maps.app.goo.gl/K2RUdsKptUJvNtpTA) in Salt Lake City, consisting of 2 FrontRunner commuter rail tracks and 5 Union Pacific freight tracks.
This is from the Beltline in Madison (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0349249,-89.4164625,3a,75y,98.41h,87.95t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s5yHNUJFqKSIup7DZFbzahQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D2.0453708159219843%26panoid%3D5yHNUJFqKSIup7DZFbzahQ%26yaw%3D98.4092847119333!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyOS4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D). When I was growing up, the trail on the bridge was an active, at-grade crossing.
Every morning, the school bus I was riding on pulled off to the side and stopped with cars zipping past at highway speeds. The bus even opened its door! Then it had to renter traffic. Obviously all for safety sake! :-D
Quote from: SEWIGuy on February 04, 2025, 01:24:59 PMThis is from the Beltline in Madison (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0349249,-89.4164625,3a,75y,98.41h,87.95t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s5yHNUJFqKSIup7DZFbzahQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D2.0453708159219843%26panoid%3D5yHNUJFqKSIup7DZFbzahQ%26yaw%3D98.4092847119333!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyOS4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D). When I was growing up, the trail on the bridge was an active, at-grade crossing.
Every morning, the school bus I was riding on pulled off to the side and stopped with cars zipping past at highway speeds. The bus even opened its door! Then it had to renter traffic. Obviously all for safety sake! :-D
There are still three active railroad crossings on freeways/expressways here in Wisconsin (One on US 141 just south of WI 64 and the other two on US 151, one in Beaver Dam and the other just south of Waupun). A few decades ago there were many more, including five(!) on US 41 between Milwaukee and Appleton, one being on a six-lane freeway segment in the northwest suburbs. A sign before every one says/said "USE RIGHT LANE IF REQUIRED TO STOP AT RAILROAD" and pull off lanes are/were provided. There once were two active railroad crossings on the Madison Beltline.
Mike
Reminds me of this former crossing (https://maps.app.goo.gl/9bhX51FuK4WoixxG6) on Paseo del Norte in Albuquerque, where a rail line crossed the freeway at grade. It was closed off sometime around 2014, but the tracks are still there.
This one in Ohio seems pretty bizarre (https://maps.app.goo.gl/SUKLpJAeV19knk238)
Main road has red and yellow lights for the crossing, while the side road has a stop sign for main road and has to yield to the tracks. Additionally, there's no stop arms for the tracks
(https://i.moomoo.me/04tGyh.png?key=SugvEnQAuK)
(https://i.moomoo.me/LgBSRE.png?key=zqY13hvIpu)
Quote from: michiganguy123 on February 05, 2025, 09:11:39 PMThis one in Ohio seems pretty bizarre (https://maps.app.goo.gl/SUKLpJAeV19knk238)
Main road has red and yellow lights for the crossing, while the side road has a stop sign for main road and has to yield to the tracks. Additionally, there's no stop arms for the tracks
(https://i.moomoo.me/04tGyh.png?key=SugvEnQAuK)
(https://i.moomoo.me/LgBSRE.png?key=zqY13hvIpu)
The level of grade crossing control is dependent on track class. I would bed that's probably Class 1 or 2 trackage, no more than 25mph.