I-49 in the Kansas City area - and through western Missouri - is often called "Highway 71" or "71 Highway".
I-64 in St. Louis is still commonly referred to as "Highway 40".
Throughout the country, what are some other freeways that are now signed as Interstates, but where the local residents of the area still often call them by the number or name they were known as prior to the Interstate designation? I'm sure there are many such roads.
I-95 as route 128 - Boston.
I imagine some of the pre-Interstate era toll roads (Ohio Turnpike, Pennsylvania Turnpike, NJ Turnpike, NY Thruway, Mass Pike, Chicago Skyway, etc) might apply here, either as its full name or a shortened name (like "The Turnpike") without the state or city name.
I don't have one that is known by its prior signage, but I have one that is not, and I was surprised at how quickly the new shield became the primary identification: Interstate 580 from Reno to the south end of Carson City.
Prior to 2012 it was signed as US 395. When the segment from Mt. Rose Highway in south Reno to Washoe Valley was completed in 2012, the I-580 shields went up, but alongside the US 395 shields. I figured people would just keep referring to it as "395", but it became known locally as "580" pretty much immediately.
Quote from: gonealookin on August 10, 2023, 10:46:26 PM
I don't have one that is known by its prior signage, but I have one that is not, and I was surprised at how quickly the new shield became the primary identification: Interstate 580 from Reno to the south end of Carson City.
Prior to 2012 it was signed as US 395. When the segment from Mt. Rose Highway in south Reno to Washoe Valley was completed in 2012, the I-580 shields went up, but alongside the US 395 shields. I figured people would just keep referring to it as "395", but it became known locally as "580" pretty much immediately.
Here in Wisconsin, I-41 is still often referred to as being 'Highway forty one'.
Mike
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Quote from: gonealookin on August 10, 2023, 10:46:26 PM
I don't have one that is known by its prior signage, but I have one that is not, and I was surprised at how quickly the new shield became the primary identification: Interstate 580 from Reno to the south end of Carson City.
Prior to 2012 it was signed as US 395. When the segment from Mt. Rose Highway in south Reno to Washoe Valley was completed in 2012, the I-580 shields went up, but alongside the US 395 shields. I figured people would just keep referring to it as "395", but it became known locally as "580" pretty much immediately.
Here in Wisconsin, I-41 is still often referred to as being 'Highway forty one'.
Mike
or just "41"
This is very common on unsigned Interstates. Both I-595 in MD and I-305 in CA are known as US 50, and I-296 is still called US 131.
Quote from: Henry on August 11, 2023, 12:12:50 AM
This is very common on unsigned Interstates. Both I-595 in MD and I-305 in CA are known as US 50, and I-296 is still called US 131.
Thanks, but when I said "Interstates" , I meant signed ones.
I-65 between Louisville and E-town is still referred to as "the Turnpike" as in its former identity of the Kentucky Turnpike.
I don't call any of the Kentucky parkways that are now interstates by their new numbers. They're still the WK, Purchase, Pennyrile and Green River parkways to me.
Quote from: hbelkins on August 11, 2023, 12:00:11 PM
I-65 between Louisville and E-town is still referred to as "the Turnpike" as in its former identity of the Kentucky Turnpike.
I don't call any of the Kentucky parkways that are now interstates by their new numbers. They're still the WK, Purchase, Pennyrile and Green River parkways to me.
Yeah. I don't even refer to the Hal Rogers (Daniel Boone), Louie Nunn (Cumberland) or William Natcher (Green River) by those names let alone the Interstate number.
Quote from: mgk920 on August 10, 2023, 11:16:05 PM
Quote from: gonealookin on August 10, 2023, 10:46:26 PM
I don't have one that is known by its prior signage, but I have one that is not, and I was surprised at how quickly the new shield became the primary identification: Interstate 580 from Reno to the south end of Carson City.
Prior to 2012 it was signed as US 395. When the segment from Mt. Rose Highway in south Reno to Washoe Valley was completed in 2012, the I-580 shields went up, but alongside the US 395 shields. I figured people would just keep referring to it as "395", but it became known locally as "580" pretty much immediately.
Here in Wisconsin, I-41 is still often referred to as being 'Highway forty one'.
Mike
When I was recently visiting family in SE Wisconsin, I've also heard the Stadium Freeway (now WI-175) also referred to as 41.
Granted, my family are not roadgeeks, and it was 41 for a long time.
One logical example is a scenario where an existing road had a name and the new Interstate designation applies to only a portion of that road. The one that comes to my mind is the Durham Freeway in North Carolina, which is now partially designated as I-885. I suppose it helps that it wasn't generally referred to by its now-truncated route number, NC-147, such that it's just a situation continuing to use the existing name that still applies.
Quote from: hobsini2 on August 11, 2023, 12:08:31 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 11, 2023, 12:00:11 PM
I-65 between Louisville and E-town is still referred to as "the Turnpike" as in its former identity of the Kentucky Turnpike.
I don't call any of the Kentucky parkways that are now interstates by their new numbers. They're still the WK, Purchase, Pennyrile and Green River parkways to me.
Yeah. I don't even refer to the Hal Rogers (Daniel Boone), Louie Nunn (Cumberland) or William Natcher (Green River) by those names let alone the Interstate number.
I'm never going to get used to "Hal Rogers" or "Louie Nunn."
You might find a few MSP old timers who still call I-394 "Highway 12"* or "Wayzata Blvd" but I think the vast majority of people even who drove in the 1970s-1980s have adopted 394 into their lexicon.
*well I mean that technically isn't wrong...
In Pennsylvania, we have Pennsylvania Turnpike (I-70, I-76, I-95, and I-276), Blue Route/Northeast Extension (I-476), and Schuylkill Expressway (I-76) where the name is more commonly used than route number.
While it's the opposite situation and it's not an Interstate but an Autoroute, Montréal's QC 136 is (rightfully) still referred to as A-720. (I shouldn't be deadnaming a freeway, but come on.)
I-69 in Houston is still referred to as 59 by locals, to the point where it's really easy to tell when someone isn't from Houston based on if they call it 59 or 69.
You know in Florida, though not interstates, many toll roads that didn't have Route shields when they first started are still too referred by the name over the posted route number.
Only FL 408, that was just known and signed as the East- West Expressway, quickly was referred to by the new route shields after being installed especially by traffic reporters.
In addition, the name change on FL 528 from the Beeline Expressway to the Beachline Expressway was also done like 408 was. Traffic reporters and DJs such as Deano O' Neil on Z88 were all referring to the new name of FL 528 in no time after Jeb signed the bill changing the expressway name.
Hawaiians almost always prefer highway names to route numbers, but the Interstate numbers seem to have mostly caught on (even for Hawaiians, "Queen Liliuokalani Freeway" is a bit of a tongue-twister). The exception is H-201, which was and still is called the Moanalua Freeway rather than its present or past route numbers.
Quote from: mgk920 on August 10, 2023, 11:16:05 PM
Quote from: gonealookin on August 10, 2023, 10:46:26 PM
I don't have one that is known by its prior signage, but I have one that is not, and I was surprised at how quickly the new shield became the primary identification: Interstate 580 from Reno to the south end of Carson City.
Prior to 2012 it was signed as US 395. When the segment from Mt. Rose Highway in south Reno to Washoe Valley was completed in 2012, the I-580 shields went up, but alongside the US 395 shields. I figured people would just keep referring to it as "395", but it became known locally as "580" pretty much immediately.
Here in Wisconsin, I-41 is still often referred to as being 'Highway forty one'.
Mike
Conversely, when I-39 was extended over US-51, it didn't take long at all before I-39 was the more common usage.
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... Beeline Expressway ...
Our relatives continue to call it the Bee Line and they say everyone they know does as well. "Beachline" is a stupid name.
Tolls were removed from the Connecticut Turnpike in 1985 but it is still sometimes called that, or just "the turnpike", at least the portion that is on I-95. It's still officially the Governor John Davis Lodge Turnpike, but not popularly called that.
I-25 through downtown Denver is still called the Valley Highway by many old-timers as well as traffic reporters.
San Diego Freeway
Pasadena Freeway
Long Beach Freeway
Quote from: Quillz on August 12, 2023, 10:31:49 PM
San Diego Freeway
Pasadena Freeway
Long Beach Freeway
Don't forget Harbor Freeway too.
Quote from: Some one on August 12, 2023, 01:51:05 AM
I-69 in Houston is still referred to as 59 by locals, to the point where it's really easy to tell when someone isn't from Houston based on if they call it 59 or 69.
I was just about to say this exactly
It was mentioned here earlier I-41 in WI hasn't quite taken hold yet.
What about central Wisconsin? Has I-39 finally become the normal name, or is it still 51?
Quote from: OCGuy81 on August 14, 2023, 08:15:28 AM
It was mentioned here earlier I-41 in WI hasn't quite taken hold yet.
What about central Wisconsin? Has I-39 finally become the normal name, or is it still 51?
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Quote from: mgk920 on August 10, 2023, 11:16:05 PM
Quote from: gonealookin on August 10, 2023, 10:46:26 PM
I don't have one that is known by its prior signage, but I have one that is not, and I was surprised at how quickly the new shield became the primary identification: Interstate 580 from Reno to the south end of Carson City.
Prior to 2012 it was signed as US 395. When the segment from Mt. Rose Highway in south Reno to Washoe Valley was completed in 2012, the I-580 shields went up, but alongside the US 395 shields. I figured people would just keep referring to it as "395", but it became known locally as "580" pretty much immediately.
Here in Wisconsin, I-41 is still often referred to as being 'Highway forty one'.
Mike
Conversely, when I-39 was extended over US-51, it didn't take long at all before I-39 was the more common usage.
Quote from: Rothman on August 11, 2023, 12:48:42 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on August 11, 2023, 12:08:31 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 11, 2023, 12:00:11 PM
I-65 between Louisville and E-town is still referred to as "the Turnpike" as in its former identity of the Kentucky Turnpike.
I don't call any of the Kentucky parkways that are now interstates by their new numbers. They're still the WK, Purchase, Pennyrile and Green River parkways to me.
Yeah. I don't even refer to the Hal Rogers (Daniel Boone), Louie Nunn (Cumberland) or William Natcher (Green River) by those names let alone the Interstate number.
I'm never going to get used to "Hal Rogers" or "Louie Nunn."
While the Hal Rogers and William H. Natcher designations were full name changes, the Louie B. Nunn designation was tacked on to the name, like the Bert T. Combs Mountain Parkway.
I'm surprised the "tacking on of the politician's name to the geographical or historical name" wasn't in effect for the Natcher. The first parkway to get that treatment was the Mountain Parkway; KYTC could have easily called it "William H. Natcher Green River Parkway."
Now it's I-165 and I don't know if any of the old Natcher Parkway signs are still in existence.
Quote from: roadman65 on August 12, 2023, 01:56:57 PM
You know in Florida, though not interstates, many toll roads that didn't have Route shields when they first started are still too referred by the name over the posted route number.
Only FL 408, that was just known and signed as the East- West Expressway, quickly was referred to by the new route shields after being installed especially by traffic reporters.
In addition, the name change on FL 528 from the Beeline Expressway to the Beachline Expressway was also done like 408 was. Traffic reporters and DJs such as Deano O' Neil on Z88 were all referring to the new name of FL 528 in no time after Jeb signed the bill changing the expressway name.
I don't know how common it is, but my parents still refer to the east side of I-295 around Jacksonville as 9A.
How about the former I-164 in Evansville? Is it referred to as 69 now? Was it ever called 164, being just a short spur?
Quote from: hbelkins on August 14, 2023, 10:27:56 AM
Quote from: Rothman on August 11, 2023, 12:48:42 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on August 11, 2023, 12:08:31 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 11, 2023, 12:00:11 PM
I-65 between Louisville and E-town is still referred to as "the Turnpike" as in its former identity of the Kentucky Turnpike.
I don't call any of the Kentucky parkways that are now interstates by their new numbers. They're still the WK, Purchase, Pennyrile and Green River parkways to me.
Yeah. I don't even refer to the Hal Rogers (Daniel Boone), Louie Nunn (Cumberland) or William Natcher (Green River) by those names let alone the Interstate number.
I'm never going to get used to "Hal Rogers" or "Louie Nunn."
While the Hal Rogers and William H. Natcher designations were full name changes, the Louie B. Nunn designation was tacked on to the name, like the Bert T. Combs Mountain Parkway.
I'm surprised the "tacking on of the politician's name to the geographical or historical name" wasn't in effect for the Natcher. The first parkway to get that treatment was the Mountain Parkway; KYTC could have easily called it "William H. Natcher Green River Parkway."
Now it's I-165 and I don't know if any of the old Natcher Parkway signs are still in existence.
The last time I drove through Bowling Green to Owensboro, the Natcher Pkwy signs were mounted with I-165. However at interchanges, it was just 165. That was 2 years ago or so.
Quote from: OCGuy81 on August 14, 2023, 03:33:27 PM
How about the former I-164 in Evansville? Is it referred to as 69 now? Was it ever called 164, being just a short spur?
164 was not a short spur. But anyway, locals will use both 164 and 69 depending on who you talk with.
Quote from: hobsini2 on August 14, 2023, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on August 14, 2023, 03:33:27 PM
How about the former I-164 in Evansville? Is it referred to as 69 now? Was it ever called 164, being just a short spur?
164 was not a short spur. But anyway, locals will use both 164 and 69 depending on who you talk with.
I get that, I know for a 3-di, I-164 was pretty long (especially for an odd numbered one). I just meant compared to other renamed freeways, like I-41, that it was short.
Thanks for answering this! :-)
Does anyone in New York ever refer to I-87 as such? It's always been the Thruway or Major Deegan. I also believe that the Adirondack Northway is colloquially called " The Northway" but that was a given name to I-87 when it was built north of Albany.
Quote from: OCGuy81 on August 14, 2023, 03:33:27 PM
How about the former I-164 in Evansville? Is it referred to as 69 now? Was it ever called 164, being just a short spur?
I wonder if it's the same case with I-49 and I-540 in Arkansas, as the latter still exists, but the former took over most of its routing.
Quote from: Some one on August 14, 2023, 05:51:48 PM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on August 14, 2023, 03:33:27 PM
How about the former I-164 in Evansville? Is it referred to as 69 now? Was it ever called 164, being just a short spur?
I wonder if it's the same case with I-49 and I-540 in Arkansas, as the latter still exists, but the former took over most of its routing.
And also, I-87 and I-495 in NC.
Quote from: Henry on August 14, 2023, 10:45:00 PM
Quote from: Some one on August 14, 2023, 05:51:48 PM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on August 14, 2023, 03:33:27 PM
How about the former I-164 in Evansville? Is it referred to as 69 now? Was it ever called 164, being just a short spur?
I wonder if it's the same case with I-49 and I-540 in Arkansas, as the latter still exists, but the former took over most of its routing.
And also, I-87 and I-495 in NC.
I-87 in NC is still commonly called "64" by anyone who has lived here a while.
I grew up with Highway being used to describe freeways in the Bay Area
Highway 880 officially it's Interstate 880 from Oakland to San Jose. The Highway name gets inserted before the route number because I-880 is on a former segment of California Highway 17.
Highway 80 officially I-80 because it is on a former segment of US-40.
Highway 680 officially I-680 due to the freeway was previously known as CA-21
Highway 580 and 205 aka I-580, I-205 because it's on a former segment of US-50 until its western terminus was truncated to West Sacramento.
In Detroit it seems like they have got away from using freeway names and using freeway numbers instead. Historically I-96 is the Jeffries, I-94 is the Ford, I-75 is the Fisher south of downtown and the Chrysler north of downtown, I-696 is the Ruether. Those are the only Interstate highways that had names for their freeways in Detroit. The leg of I-375 that is about to go away is the southern end of the Chrysler Freeway. I-275 doesn't have a freeway name attached to it.
The area where Ohio 315 and I-670 meet in Columbus used to be commonly known as the Spring Sandusky Interchange. (It used to be where Spring Street and Sandusky Street/Ave. met.) The existing part of I-670 was was designed with very primitive engineering standards of early highways. However, when that highway was overhauled and completed, the Spring Sandusky name seems to have dropped off the map.
Quote from: Big John on August 10, 2023, 10:41:18 PM
I-95 as route 128 - Boston.
Also the southern leg of I-93 from Canton to Braintree is also sometimes referred to as 128 even though that portion was decommissioned back in 1997.
Quote from: Flint1979 on October 08, 2023, 08:59:28 AM
In Detroit it seems like they have got away from using freeway names and using freeway numbers instead. Historically I-96 is the Jeffries, I-94 is the Ford, I-75 is the Fisher south of downtown and the Chrysler north of downtown, I-696 is the Ruether. Those are the only Interstate highways that had names for their freeways in Detroit. The leg of I-375 that is about to go away is the southern end of the Chrysler Freeway. I-275 doesn't have a freeway name attached to it.
In Macomb county, I-696 is sometimes referred to as the road it replaced, 11 Mile. 11 Mile is still used for the service drive.
Bay Area examples:
580 and MacArthur Freeway names are interchangeable (MacArthur name was first used when the road was US 50, and also has origins in the parallel MacArthur Boulevard that was the previous US 50 alignment). Probably aided by the freeway's western terminus being identified as the MacArthur Maze (and the presence of the MacArthur BART station nearby)
80 along the San Pablo Bay line is the Eastshore Freeway, a name that existed when the route was US 40 (and originates from the 1930s Eastshore Highway/Eastshore Boulevard that is now partially a frontage road to the current freeway)
880 is probably more used now than "Nimitz Freeway" but the Nimitz name is still known here
The other freeway names known in the area (Bayshore, Central, Warren) are along non-interstates (US 101 for the first two; Route 13 for the third one). Otherwise, it's all numbers out here these days.
Quote from: fillup420 on August 15, 2023, 04:12:44 PM
Quote from: Henry on August 14, 2023, 10:45:00 PM
Quote from: Some one on August 14, 2023, 05:51:48 PM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on August 14, 2023, 03:33:27 PM
How about the former I-164 in Evansville? Is it referred to as 69 now? Was it ever called 164, being just a short spur?
I wonder if it's the same case with I-49 and I-540 in Arkansas, as the latter still exists, but the former took over most of its routing.
And also, I-87 and I-495 in NC.
I-87 in NC is still commonly called "64" by anyone who has lived here a while.
Or anyone with common sense, really.
With that said, here's a non-Interstate example: some English speakers in the Montréal area still refer to A-20 west of the city as "2-20" (two twenty), in reference to the pre-1970s Route 2.
I've mentioned it before, but no one in New York ever calls out I-87 on its run from NYC to Canada.
However, I wonder if anyone calls out I-90 between Albany and the PA State Line? Also does anyone ever call the Mass Pike I-90? I've always heard the toll road name.
Quote from: roadman65 on October 08, 2023, 06:48:23 PM
I've mentioned it before, but no one in New York ever calls out I-87 on its run from NYC to Canada.
However, I wonder if anyone calls out I-90 between Albany and the PA State Line? Also does anyone ever call the Mass Pike I-90? I've always heard the toll road name.
My college buddy from the Buffalo area used Los Angeles-style highway nomenclature - so he did refer to I-90 through the Buffalo metro as "The 90". He said that's how other locals called it as well. Not sure about other Upstate metros though.
Quote from: roadman65 on October 08, 2023, 06:48:23 PM
However, I wonder if anyone calls out I-90 between Albany and the PA State Line? Also does anyone ever call the Mass Pike I-90? I've always heard the toll road name.
I think so, but mainly around the Buffalo free zone. Not so much elsewhere.
Quote from: TheStranger on October 08, 2023, 06:32:18 PM
Bay Area examples:
580 and MacArthur Freeway names are interchangeable (MacArthur name was first used when the road was US 50, and also has origins in the parallel MacArthur Boulevard that was the previous US 50 alignment). Probably aided by the freeway's western terminus being identified as the MacArthur Maze (and the presence of the MacArthur BART station nearby)
80 along the San Pablo Bay line is the Eastshore Freeway, a name that existed when the route was US 40 (and originates from the 1930s Eastshore Highway/Eastshore Boulevard that is now partially a frontage road to the current freeway)
880 is probably more used now than "Nimitz Freeway" but the Nimitz name is still known here
The other freeway names known in the area (Bayshore, Central, Warren) are along non-interstates (US 101 for the first two; Route 13 for the third one). Otherwise, it's all numbers out here these days.
680 because it's on a former route CA-21 that's how Bay Area residents refer to freeway numbers as Highway x.
280 parts of it was originally part of CA-82 and that's how locals refer it to Highway 280.
One thing about Florida is all but one route of the Central Florida toll roads is called by a past name. FL 408 is the exception as people adapted to the 408 number designation fast. Even traffic reporters started referencing the East- West Expressway as "The 408" as usually traffic reporters are stubborn and like to use original naming.
When I lived in New Jersey many radio traffic reports would always refer to NJ 139 as " One and Nine" and NJ 495 as " Route 3" during traffic reports. I don't know about today whether the ignorance got put aside with new blood using the current names, but I believe a former moderator from New Jersey told me on this forum board, that people are actually acknowledging Route 139 as the approach to the Holland Tunnel.
Quote from: hobsini2 on August 14, 2023, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on August 14, 2023, 03:33:27 PM
How about the former I-164 in Evansville? Is it referred to as 69 now? Was it ever called 164, being just a short spur?
164 was not a short spur. But anyway, locals will use both 164 and 69 depending on who you talk with.
I've only been a local for a little more than a year, but I feel like "69" is by far the most common way to refer to the road at this point. It helps that it extends (almost) all the way to Indianapolis now.
By a stretch, some locals may still refer to I-97 in Maryland as "Route 3" since it's partially an upgrade of the latter.
Interstates Specifically:
I-84 between I-5 and I-205 in Portland is commonly referred to as the Banfield. It was originally the Banfield Freeway, then got US 30, then I-80N (temporarily), then I-80N became I-84, and it became permanent.
Other freeway segments in and around Portland have names, but the ones that became Interstates, largely dropped those names, even the ones that are official. No one calls I-405, Stadium Freeway; or I-5 north of the Freemont Bridge, Minnesota Freeway. However, a lot of the other freeways still get called by the Highway Names, largely due to Oregon's system of having Highway Names/numbers and separate (and often different) route numbers.
Washington seems to have largely avoided this for the Interstates, as I cannot think of a named Interstate in Washington. But several of the State Route freeways and expressways have names, often used in traffic reports, sometimes based on the road or highway they replaced, and other times they just seem random.
No mention of I-83 inside the Baltimore Beltway being called "The JFX"?
A few old stragglers in CT may still refer to the East Hartford-Sturbridge portion of I-84 as Route 15/Wilbur Cross Highway, or I-395 as Route 52.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on October 09, 2023, 11:33:58 AM
No mention of I-83 inside the Baltimore Beltway being called "The JFX"?
A few old stragglers in CT may still refer to the East Hartford-Sturbridge portion of I-84 as Route 15/Wilbur Cross Highway, or I-395 as Route 52.
But in Mass they still won't let go of Route 128.
Shows how New Englanders differ on things with different borders.
The northerly half of I-277 in uptown Charlotte is still more commonly referred to as the Brookshire Freeway, whose name predates the designation of the route.
No one in Southern Nevada refers to I-515 as such. It's always been "95"
Quote from: JustDrive on October 09, 2023, 07:32:20 PM
No one in Southern Nevada refers to I-515 as such. It's always been "95"
That's ok. 515 is going bye-bye anyway, to be replaced with 11
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Quote from: JustDrive on October 09, 2023, 07:32:20 PM
No one in Southern Nevada refers to I-515 as such. It's always been "95"
That's ok. 515 is going bye-bye anyway, to be replaced with 11
And they'll still probably call it US 95 after that.
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 10, 2023, 10:36:50 PM
I-49 in the Kansas City area - and through western Missouri - is often called "Highway 71" or "71 Highway".
I-64 in St. Louis is still commonly referred to as "Highway 40".
Throughout the country, what are some other freeways that are now signed as Interstates, but where the local residents of the area still often call them by the number or name they were known as prior to the Interstate designation? I'm sure there are many such roads.
I heard the best pronunciation of that road, once. "Sixty-foe-foedy". Music.
Quote from: zzcarp on August 12, 2023, 08:20:44 PM
I-25 through downtown Denver is still called the Valley Highway by many old-timers as well as traffic reporters.
Wasn't I-70, just 48th ave or something, before it was I-70? (tho, I don't hear anyone calling it that..)
Quote from: Flint1979 on October 08, 2023, 08:59:28 AM
In Detroit I-275 doesn't have a freeway name attached to it.
However, I-275 north of M-14 is known more as I-96, even though I-275 came first before the Jeffries/I-96 was completed and the duplex was official.
In Cleveland, I-90/SR-2 between downtown and Bratenahl is more known as the East Shoreway. Some still call it the East Shoreway between Bratenahl and the 90/2 eastern split in Euclid, even thought that stretch is technically the Lakeland Freeway.
And it's known more as the West Shoreway than SR-2 (and/or US 6 & 20)....
And it's the Innerbelt through downtown, not I-90.
Annnnd regardless of which way you're going on I-90 on the west side of town, that whole stretch past I-71 is called...90 West.
Quote from: thenetwork on October 12, 2023, 11:26:49 PM
I-275 north of M-14 is known more as I-96,
No, it's not. All traffic reports I've ever heard treat I-275 as a whole, both north and south of M-14. I-96 is treated as two sections, the Jeffries Freeway section and the Novi and westward section.
Sure, I-96 is signed and is primary for exit numbers. But it's not primary in people's minds.
Quote from: thenetwork on October 12, 2023, 11:26:49 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on October 08, 2023, 08:59:28 AM
In Detroit I-275 doesn't have a freeway name attached to it.
However, I-275 north of M-14 is known more as I-96, even though I-275 came first before the Jeffries/I-96 was completed and the duplex was official.
In Cleveland, I-90/SR-2 between downtown and Bratenahl is more known as the East Shoreway. Some still call it the East Shoreway between Bratenahl and the 90/2 eastern split in Euclid, even thought that stretch is technically the Lakeland Freeway.
And it's known more as the West Shoreway than SR-2 (and/or US 6 & 20)....
And it's the Innerbelt through downtown, not I-90.
Annnnd regardless of which way you're going on I-90 on the west side of town, that whole stretch past I-71 is called...90 West.
No it's not it's always been called I-275 and I-96 has two sections to it. I-96 was supposed to follow Grand River into Detroit. I-275 was supposed to reconnect with I-75 near Davisburg. It's always called I-275 on traffic reports.
In Dallas, most of the freeways still get called by the freeway name.
I 30 east of I-35E is RLT (R.L. THornton)
I 35E South of downtown (all the way to the Dallas county line) is also RLT. (RLT was originally US-67.)
I-35E N of I-30 is the Stemmons Freeway (or just Stemmons).
US-75 is Central Expressway.
I-635 and the part of I-20 from 635 to the Tarrant County line is LBJ (Lyndon Baines Johnson).
US-175 is the Hawn Freeway.
I-30 west of downtown is either called " The Old Turnpike" or Tom Landry Hwy.
SH-183 is the Airport Freeway in the City of Irving.
SH183 in Dallas is the Carpenter Freeway
SH-114 in Irving is the Carpenter Freeway (There is like a mile and a half between the city limits and the 183 / 114 split)
Loop 12 from I-35E (Stemmons Fwy) to Spur 408 is Walton Walker (This is the only freeway part of loop 12)
Spur 408 is the Patriot Parkway / Patriot Freeway.
The President George Bush Tollway (including the intermittent free parts) is generally George Bush or GBT. There are generally SH numbers assigned to the service roads.
Dallas North Tollway is just Dallas North (or DNT). There are no numbers assigned to any of it or its frontage roads.
US-67 south of the I-35 split is kind of split between Marvin D Love (said completely) or US-67
There are a couple of outliers.
I-45 is generally just called I-45 (not Julius Schweppes Freeway)
US-80 is just US-80. It doesn't even seem to have a name.
I-20 east of I-635 is the same. Just I-20 without a name.
The Sam Rayburn Tollway is mostly called 121 ( SH-121 is the frontage road.) The media tends to use SRT at times and it is gaining traction, moving away from 121.
There has not been a new freeway numbered as an Interstate in North texas Since the 1970's.