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Title: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: Streetman on August 12, 2023, 10:04:26 AM
It's obvious how some streets got their names: Main St. and Broad St. for characteristics of the street itself, streets with names like Park, School, Church, Bank, Canal, Wall for things that were or are near them. Are there any streets in your area whose names don't seem to make sense? In my town, Main St. is a country lane, Hill St. is pretty flat, Circular Av. is practically straight, and Westerly Dr. is at the far eastern edge of town. (Main and Hill were probably named for people. There is an Easterly Dr. east of Westerly but it's only a paper street so little known. I have no good explanation for Circular.)
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: mgk920 on August 12, 2023, 12:06:08 PM
A number of streets here in Appleton, WI don't seem to make sense (such as the spelled out numbered streets, (Second through Eighth Sts, that show no resemblance to the current addressing grid), but make total sense when it is remembered that they were once streets of prior munis that were amalgamated by the state legislature in the 1850s to form the present-day city.  Ditto 'Division St' and 'Lawe St',which were the borders between these pre-amalgamation munis.  There are several weird street names elsewhere in the city with similar origins.

Mike
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: PColumbus73 on August 12, 2023, 01:21:52 PM
Don't know if it applies, but I hate generic, corporate, word-salady road names

Some examples near me include streets like:

Premier Resorts Blvd
McLeod Health Blvd
Drs Bruce and Lee Foundation Blvd
Burroughs & Chapin Blvd

Also, street names like 'Development' or 'Technology' are obnoxious as well.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: roadman65 on August 12, 2023, 01:47:36 PM
Now that  in Florida, Cypress Gardens is currently Legoland, the street that serves the former park, is no longer making sense to have that name to it. Cypress Gardens Blvd. that is FL 540 in where Legoland is located on the site of the historic botanical theme park.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: 1995hoo on August 12, 2023, 03:51:59 PM
Since it opened, I've thought Clemaline Boulevard (https://maps.app.goo.gl/WBSt9QsH1MWUVjrH6?g_st=ic) in Fairfax County has an overdone, pretentious name. It's not a "boulevard" in any normal sense of the word. It's an access road that primarily serves Wegmans.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: Quillz on August 12, 2023, 04:11:06 PM
I live right by Valley Circle Boulevard. It does not make a circle around the valley. It's just another south-north street.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: Quillz on August 12, 2023, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: PColumbus73 on August 12, 2023, 01:21:52 PM
Don't know if it applies, but I hate generic, corporate, word-salady road names

Some examples near me include streets like:

Premier Resorts Blvd
McLeod Health Blvd
Drs Bruce and Lee Foundation Blvd
Burroughs & Chapin Blvd

Also, street names like 'Development' or 'Technology' are obnoxious as well.
Near by work is the "Howard B. Drollinger Parkway." The street name is longer than the street.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: SEWIGuy on August 12, 2023, 04:16:33 PM
College Avenue on the south side of Milwaukee has never been near an actual college. It was named because Downer College initially planned to build its permanent campus there, but eventually chose an east side campus on the site of what is now UW-Milwaukee.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: Quillz on August 12, 2023, 04:44:56 PM
I have never been able to see the Northern Lights on Northern Lights Boulevard in Anchorage, AK.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: Rothman on August 12, 2023, 05:15:06 PM
Quote from: Quillz on August 12, 2023, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: PColumbus73 on August 12, 2023, 01:21:52 PM
Don't know if it applies, but I hate generic, corporate, word-salady road names

Some examples near me include streets like:

Premier Resorts Blvd
McLeod Health Blvd
Drs Bruce and Lee Foundation Blvd
Burroughs & Chapin Blvd

Also, street names like 'Development' or 'Technology' are obnoxious as well.
Near by work is the "Howard B. Drollinger Parkway." The street name is longer than the street.
I desire my name to be honored in such a fashion.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: US 89 on August 12, 2023, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: PColumbus73 on August 12, 2023, 01:21:52 PM
Don't know if it applies, but I hate generic, corporate, word-salady road names

Some examples near me include streets like:

Premier Resorts Blvd
McLeod Health Blvd
Drs Bruce and Lee Foundation Blvd
Burroughs & Chapin Blvd

At least they aren't corporate, but Atlanta has a habit of renaming streets after the full names of political or civil rights leaders, or adding their names onto already-existing street names. It has a similar effect. We have mouthfuls like Donald Lee Hollowell Parkway, Joseph E. Lowery Boulevard, Ivan Allen Jr. Boulevard, Andrew Young International Boulevard, John Lewis Freedom Parkway, and so on. Local spoken usage for names like this varies - sometimes they prefer the original name without the person's name attached, sometimes just the person's last name, and sometimes the whole thing. Depends on the street.

In my opinion, if you're going to totally rename a street instead of just attaching a new honorary name that nobody is going to use, it needs to be limited to last name only simply to keep things clear and concise.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on August 12, 2023, 05:44:49 PM
Anywhere in MN that uses Atlantic Ave or Pacific Ave. (I assume these are railroad related somehow.)
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: Streetman on August 12, 2023, 05:52:40 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 12, 2023, 03:51:59 PM
Since it opened, I've thought Clemaline Boulevard (https://maps.app.goo.gl/WBSt9QsH1MWUVjrH6?g_st=ic) in Fairfax County has an overdone, pretentious name. It's not a "boulevard" in any normal sense of the word. It's an access road that primarily serves Wegmans.
Fairfield Blvd. in Wallingford CT is a quarter-mile long two lane dead end serving seven industrial buildings.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: Streetman on August 12, 2023, 06:01:07 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 12, 2023, 01:47:36 PM
Now that  in Florida, Cypress Gardens is currently Legoland, the street that serves the former park, is no longer making sense to have that name to it. Cypress Gardens Blvd. that is FL 540 in where Legoland is located on the site of the historic botanical theme park.
There was a previous topic on streets named for businesses no longer near them: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=18246.0
In my original comment I said that streets named for things that were or are near them are logical.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: pderocco on August 12, 2023, 06:42:31 PM
How about the Beeline Highway, NE of Phoenix? Odd name for a winding road.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: LilianaUwU on August 12, 2023, 06:46:27 PM
Chemin de l'Hôpital in Fatima on the Magdalen Islands in Québec likely never had a hospital.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: US 89 on August 13, 2023, 12:09:16 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on August 12, 2023, 06:46:27 PM
Chemin de l'Hôpital in Fatima on the Magdalen Islands in Québec likely never had a hospital.

I guess someone really liked evaluating limits of indeterminate forms...
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: jay8g on August 13, 2023, 01:48:32 AM
Seattle has an E North St, an Eastern Ave N, a Western Ave, and a S/SW Southern St. None of those are anywhere near one another, and the only one that seems to have a logical reason for its name is Eastern Ave N (the easternmost avenue within the N zone before you get into the NE zone).
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: roadman65 on August 13, 2023, 08:08:20 AM
Irvington, NJ has a 40th Street that has no numbered street themes with the township. 40th is alone with no other numbers running parallel to it.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: mgk920 on August 13, 2023, 12:05:22 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on August 12, 2023, 04:16:33 PM
College Avenue on the south side of Milwaukee has never been near an actual college. It was named because Downer College initially planned to build its permanent campus there, but eventually chose an east side campus on the site of what is now UW-Milwaukee.

And Downer College eventually became part of Lawrence College in Appleton (the city's main street is called 'College Ave').  It is now 'Lawrence University'.

Mike
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: kkt on August 13, 2023, 12:36:08 PM
Quote from: US 89 on August 13, 2023, 12:09:16 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on August 12, 2023, 06:46:27 PM
Chemin de l'Hôpital in Fatima on the Magdalen Islands in Québec likely never had a hospital.

I guess someone really liked evaluating limits of indeterminate forms...

The integration rule was from someone's last name, so the street may be named after a person in the family as well?
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: US 89 on August 13, 2023, 06:23:05 PM
Quote from: kkt on August 13, 2023, 12:36:08 PM
Quote from: US 89 on August 13, 2023, 12:09:16 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on August 12, 2023, 06:46:27 PM
Chemin de l'Hôpital in Fatima on the Magdalen Islands in Québec likely never had a hospital.

I guess someone really liked evaluating limits of indeterminate forms...

The integration rule was from someone's last name, so the street may be named after a person in the family as well?

Apparently Guillaume de l'Hôpital wanted nothing more than to become famous and remembered in math, a field he was fascinated by, but his intellect was not quite up to the leading thinkers of the day. However, he did have one advantage and that was that he was very rich. So he called up his tutor Johann Bernoulli, a truly brilliant mathematician, and offered a handsome sum of money in exchange for the exclusive right to publish all of his discoveries. Bernoulli, tempted by the francs waving under his nose, reluctantly agreed. L'Hôpital then wrote a differential calculus textbook containing the first publication of what came to be known as l'Hôpital's rule. So for better or worse, he did get his wish.

At least, that was what my partial differential equations professor told us a number of times. Some of that is probably a little embellished, but it makes for a good story nonetheless. Perhaps he or another l'Hôpital wanted to be remembered in Canada and bought a street name.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: LilianaUwU on August 13, 2023, 06:46:44 PM
Quote from: kkt on August 13, 2023, 12:36:08 PM
Quote from: US 89 on August 13, 2023, 12:09:16 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on August 12, 2023, 06:46:27 PM
Chemin de l'Hôpital in Fatima on the Magdalen Islands in Québec likely never had a hospital.

I guess someone really liked evaluating limits of indeterminate forms...

The integration rule was from someone's last name, so the street may be named after a person in the family as well?
That wouldn't make sense, since no one with that last name ever lived on the Magdalen Islands. I was told the name may be derived from an antiquated other definition for the word, but I can't remember the definition. In any case, perhaps there was some sort of religious clinic way back then, but it's long gone if it ever existed.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: Bruce on August 14, 2023, 02:51:41 AM
Main Street in Lacey, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/JMKBrcApkw9N2eoUA) is totally misplaced. It's not in the historic city center (or what remains of it) and is just a starter street for a development that never got off the ground.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: J N Winkler on August 14, 2023, 03:56:42 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on August 13, 2023, 06:46:44 PMThat wouldn't make sense, since no one with that last name ever lived on the Magdalen Islands. I was told the name may be derived from an antiquated other definition for the word, but I can't remember the definition. In any case, perhaps there was some sort of religious clinic way back then, but it's long gone if it ever existed.

Could it be hôpital in the sense of hospice (what is now called EHPAD in France and assisted living in the US)?
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: GaryV on August 14, 2023, 09:09:14 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on August 13, 2023, 06:46:44 PM
some sort of religious clinic way back then
I seem to remember abbeys or convents called that, back around the time of the crusades up to maybe the Renaissance, that were essentially convalescent homes for those injured in wars or fallen sick on pilgrimages. And unfortunately given the state of medical knowledge, more often they ended up being what we'd call a hospice.

Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: paulthemapguy on August 14, 2023, 02:37:57 PM
A rating of various street names in the town where I grew up, Oswego, IL.

Forest Avenue:  There are trees along it but not really any real forests. 5/10
Parkside Lane: It actually runs alongside a park! Not terribly inventive though. 9/10
Prairieview Drive: It didn't have any view of a prairie when it was originally signed, but a new development put a wetland/prairie preserve within eyeshot. Appropriate name, but only accidentally. 6/10
Boulder Hill Pass: I have yet to see a Boulder, a Hill, or a Pass. 2/10
Lakeview Drive: It is actually in eyeshot of a manmade lake, so it counts. 9/10
Paradise Parkway: Hah, this is suburban cookie-cutter homes.  Try again. 1/10
Morgan Valley Drive: Runs in the valley of Morgan Creek. Appropriate. 9/10
Long Beach Drive: There is no beach here.  There's not even any water features here. 1/10
Highland Court: Get out of here.  This is Illinois. 1/10
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: johnandmegh on August 20, 2023, 04:39:39 PM
Kind of a fun one in Columbus - Federated Blvd in the northwest was named because Federated Department Stores was going to be the anchor for a new mall that was being planned for that land. Builders negotiating/city maneuvering/etc. led to the planned northwest mall instead being built as Tuttle Crossing to the southwest of that space, but the Federated road name stuck.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: CtrlAltDel on August 20, 2023, 05:00:18 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 14, 2023, 02:37:57 PM
A rating of various street names in the town where I grew up, Oswego, IL.

Forest Avenue:  There are trees along it but not really any real forests. 5/10

Does it head to a forest? I would count it if it did.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: Quillz on August 21, 2023, 04:06:23 AM
"Ventura Canyon Road" is a short discontinuous set of streets in the SF Valley. There is no proper Ventura Canyon.

"Whitnall Highway" is a short street in the SF Valley. Not exactly what you'd think of when you hear "highway." This, however, does make a bit more sense if you consider it was once intended to be one of the earliest freeways in the state. But it was never realized and the short street is all that remains.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: roadman65 on August 21, 2023, 04:18:36 AM
Any Vineland Road in Orlando area as the once community of Vineland in Orange County that got replaced with post Disney sprawl no longer exists.

There is no road between Winter Garden and Vineland to be called Winter Garden- Vineland Road anymore or between Kissimmee and Vineland to be Kissimmee - Vineland Road anymore either.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: Quillz on August 21, 2023, 04:22:28 AM
There's a road off the 395 called "Manzanar Reward Road." This does make sense, as west of the 395 it goes to Manzanar, east of the 395 it goes to the small community of Reward. But reading the name as "Manzanar Reward" is an unfortunate naming choice if you know the history of Manzanar.
Title: Re: Street names that don't seem to make sense
Post by: achilles765 on August 21, 2023, 05:13:10 AM
Well here in Houston we have a group or numbered streets like "eight street"  and "ninth street" . They are all in the heights area and run from second to I believe 45th. Then, randomly on the east side where I live you start seeing 65-78th streets. Totally different parts of town