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Title: Traffic lights at interchanges where freeways turn into surface streets
Post by: KCRoadFan on August 20, 2023, 02:21:48 AM
For this thread, apologies for the maximum character limit in the title; what I meant to say was "Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway, and where the junction itself has traffic lights."

Anyway, that being said, here the main content of the post follows.

Near where I live, the 18th Street Expressway is a short freeway that carries US 69 through parts of Kansas City, KS, and is a southward extension of the street of the same name past the I-70 interchange. The freeway has its southern end at I-35 - right about where it crosses from Wyandotte County/KCK into Johnson County and Roeland Park - but the roadway itself continues further south and again becomes a surface street, namely Roe Boulevard.

What's interesting about the I-35 interchange, though, is that the road through the interchange intersects the ramps to and from I-35 at a pair of traffic lights, as if the road were a surface street all the way through; thus, traffic wanting to get on I-35 has to go through a light, even if they're coming from the 18th Street Expressway.

Throughout the country, where else have you seen such freeway interchanges where the intersecting road is a freeway in one direction and a surface road in the other, but where the ramps have traffic lights such that everyone getting on or off the freeway has to go through them, regardless of whether they're going to or coming from the other freeway or the surface street?
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: ran4sh on August 20, 2023, 02:30:08 AM
If the direct ramps to/from Briley Pkwy are ignored, then the I-40/Briley Pkwy western interchange (Nashville area) seems to qualify.

US 321 approaching I-85 in Gastonia NC comes close, but the freeway section of US 321 becomes a surface road about a mile short of reaching I-85.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: ran4sh on August 20, 2023, 02:34:00 AM
US 80 (freeway) becomes a surface street when it intersects Alt US 27 (freeway) in the Columbus GA area
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: Road Hog on August 20, 2023, 05:04:41 AM
Before the old I-430-I-630 cloverleaf was reconfigured, I-630 ended at a traffic signal and became Chenal Parkway on the other side.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: hotdogPi on August 20, 2023, 06:02:38 AM
MA 140 at MA 24.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: GaryV on August 20, 2023, 06:28:00 AM
US 24 at I-469
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: jp the roadgeek on August 20, 2023, 07:44:27 AM
I-787 (if you follow the number) becoming NY 787 after crossing ALT NY 7

I-684 becoming NY 22 after the latter joins after crossing I-84

I-291 in MA becoming Burnett Rd after crossing I-90

MD 295 becoming Russell St after crossing I-95.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: Rothman on August 20, 2023, 07:51:08 AM
What about I-535/US 53 at I-35?  There was at least one light in that interchange and then US 53 becomes a surface street to go up the hill.

Eh, probably doesn't count.  Too early in the morning for this.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: SEWIGuy on August 20, 2023, 09:15:39 AM
Prior to the interchange reconstruction a few years ago, this is how I-43 ended after crossing I-39/90 near Beloit, WI.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: 1995hoo on August 20, 2023, 09:22:28 AM
Do roads that switch back and forth between freeway-grade and what some people might consider "expressway"-grade qualify? If so, VA-286, the Fairfax County Parkway, might count. Its interchange with US-50 is a partial cloverleaf that includes two lights on the Parkway; the road is then freeway-grade (though with a 50-mph speed limit) for roughly five miles south to an at-grade intersection with traffic light at Popes Head Road (that intersection is to become a grade-separated interchange at an unknown future date). South of Popes Head, the road has at-grade intersections, some with lights and some without. The five-mile freeway segment between US-50 and Popes Head is where the incident occurred earlier this summer with the kid who lost control of a BMW at 120 mph, skidded across the median and the other side of the road, and slammed into a stopped cop car where the cop was writing someone a ticket for going 73 mph.


Edited to add–for those unfamiliar with the incident I mention, watch the video in the tweet linked below:

Quote from: 1995hoo on May 03, 2023, 03:03:40 PM
For those who haven't seen it (it's made the national news), there was quite the crash on the Fairfax County Parkway yesterday afternoon. The police car stopped a driver heading southbound for going 73 in a 50-mph zone. Then a kid in an M3 came along the other way going in excess of 120 mph. This happened just south of the interchange with Braddock Road.

https://twitter.com/FairfaxCountyPD/status/1653496310132101120
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: Max Rockatansky on August 20, 2023, 09:34:23 AM
CA 2 upon crossing I-5.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: Dough4872 on August 20, 2023, 10:28:23 AM
PA 283 downgrades from a freeway to a surface road at the I-283 interchange near Harrisburg, the ramps from westbound PA 283 to southbound I-283 and from southbound I-283 to eastbound PA 283 have traffic lights along PA 283. PA 283 continues west a short distance and ends at a traffic light at Eisenhower Boulevard.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: mgk920 on August 20, 2023, 10:56:06 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on August 20, 2023, 09:15:39 AM
Prior to the interchange reconstruction a few years ago, this is how I-43 ended after crossing I-39/90 near Beloit, WI.

That situation has always been referred to as a 'Breezewood' in these forvms (after the highway junction at Breezewood, PA).  The I-39/90/I-43 interchange in the City of Beloit evolved into what it was and now the area of the city to its east, IMHO, has one of the hottest development potentials in the entire state. One close call on this on the OP's question on the subject in this thread for me is the über-annoying situation on US 10 on its east approach to I-39 in Stevens Point, WI.

I have never liked cross-country freeways dropping down to surface streets after crossing intersecting freeways, like US 151 at the East Towne interchange in the City of Madison WI, where US 151 becomes surface Washington St after interchanging with I-39/90/94 going southwestbound (One of the proposals currently being studied by WisDOT would correct that situation with free-flowing ramps for the freeway-to-freeway turns).  An even more stark example is on the City of Madison's southwest side, where one must pass through traffic-signaled interchange intersections at Verona RD to continue through in either direction on the US 18/151 freeway.

Mike
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: SEWIGuy on August 20, 2023, 11:09:52 AM
Quote from: mgk920 on August 20, 2023, 10:56:06 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on August 20, 2023, 09:15:39 AM
Prior to the interchange reconstruction a few years ago, this is how I-43 ended after crossing I-39/90 near Beloit, WI.

That situation has always been referred to as a 'Breezewood' in these forvms (after the highway junction at Breezewood, PA).  The I-39/90/I-43 interchange in the City of Beloit evolved into what it was and now the area of the city to its east, IMHO, has one of the hottest development potentials in the entire state. One close call on this on the OP's question on the subject in this thread for me is the über-annoying situation on US 10 on its east approach to I-39 in Stevens Point, WI.

I have never liked cross-country freeways dropping down to surface streets after crossing intersecting freeways, like US 151 at the East Towne interchange in the City of Madison WI, where US 151 becomes surface Washington St after interchanging with I-39/90/94 going southwestbound (One of the proposals currently being studied by WisDOT would correct that situation with free-flowing ramps for the freeway-to-freeway turns).  An even more stark example is on the City of Madison's southwest side, where one must pass through traffic-signaled interchange intersections at Verona RD to continue through in either direction on the US 18/151 freeway.

Mike


Not sure the end of I-43 or US-151 in Madison should be considered "Breezewoods."  In both cases, there is/was free flowing ramps to get from one freeway to the other without stopping at a light.  The problem is that these ramps have been tight cloverleafs with a lot of merge points.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on August 20, 2023, 01:42:30 PM
US 63 in Rochester, MN is a freeway to the south of US 52 with a signalized interchange at 52. 63 was rerouted off the Broadway Avenue surface street north of US 52 about 10 years ago at Rochester's request.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: Bruce on August 20, 2023, 01:53:14 PM
If we're counting termini: WA 518 at WA 509 in Burien and WA 512 at I-5 in Lakewood.

WA 99 at WA 509 in Seattle is another case, where traffic continuing from the South Park Freeway to WA 99 must take a signalized left and marge onto the 1st Avenue South Bridge.

Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on August 20, 2023, 02:57:55 PM
The brand new section of US 31 NB at Benton Harbor becomes Main St upon crossing I-94.

US 31 NB at South Bend becomes Michigan St. upon crossing US 20.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: KeithE4Phx on August 20, 2023, 03:24:15 PM
In Arizona:

Metro Phoenix
AZ 143 becomes 48th St. south of I-10.
AZ 51 becomes Black Mountain Blvd. north of Loop 101.
Loop 303 becomes surface streets at both ends:  It becomes Cotton Lane south of I-10, and Sonoran Desert Dr. east of I-17.

Flagstaff
I-17 becomes Milton Rd. north of I-40.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: Dirt Roads on August 20, 2023, 03:47:20 PM
Fair warning.  Wade Avenue Freeway in Raleigh becomes Wade Avenue after crossing the Beltline (I-440).  Probably the reason that this is the only freeway in North Carolina that doesn't carry a shield (Interstate/U.S. Route/NC State Route).
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: bing101 on August 20, 2023, 03:59:43 PM
Vallejo, CA


I-780 western terminus becomes a city street in Vallejo called Curtola Parkway right after it pass through I-80.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: johnandmegh on August 20, 2023, 04:34:40 PM
Not sure if this exactly fits, but OH-104 is concurrent with I-71 for a portion of time in the Columbus area, then splits off to the east as a freeway to connect to Refugee Rd in southeast Columbus...but going from I-71/OH-104 North to continue on OH-104 North, or going on OH-104 South to continue onto I-71/OH-104 South, both require passing through the traffic light-controlled intersection in the middle of this map:

https://goo.gl/maps/CbGqALtnXpXHZk3J8 (https://goo.gl/maps/CbGqALtnXpXHZk3J8)
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on August 20, 2023, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: Rothman on August 20, 2023, 07:51:08 AM
What about I-535/US 53 at I-35?  There was at least one light in that interchange and then US 53 becomes a surface street to go up the hill.

Eh, probably doesn't count.  Too early in the morning for this.

There's another interchange on 53 at West 21st north of I-35, so the freeway doesn't technically end northbound at I-35.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: LilianaUwU on August 20, 2023, 06:00:09 PM
A-740 ends at a traffic light at Boulevard Lebourgneuf just north of A-40, with unnumbered Boulevard Robert-Bourassa continuing in its right of way.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: roadman65 on August 20, 2023, 06:05:53 PM
US 15 in Camp Hill, PA changes at PA 581 from freeway to arterial.

US 22/30 transition to PA 60 near PIT at I-376 counts as what the OP is looking for.

I-70 to US 119 at the PA Turnpike in New Stanton, PA.

Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: wanderer2575 on August 20, 2023, 06:29:38 PM
In the metro Detroit area:

Both ends of the Southfield Freeway.  Northern end of the freeway (and terminus of M-39) is at the M-10 half-interchange in Southfield, while Southfield Road continues north.  Southern end of the freeway is at I-94 in Allen Park, while Southfield Road and M-39 continue east-southeast.

West end of the Davison Freeway at M-10 in Detroit.  Davison Avenue continues west to I-96 and actually a bit beyond.  (Plans in the '70s were to reconstruct this piece of Davison Avenue as a freeway, and the dogleg "hump" and interchange ramps on I-96 were built for it, but it was cancelled.)
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: Bickendan on August 20, 2023, 06:54:02 PM
OR 217 at I-5
OR 22 at I-5
OR 132 at OR 569
Technical: OR 224 at I-205
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: TheStranger on August 20, 2023, 07:13:56 PM
Some California examples:

Route 84 at I-880 in Fremont
Route 77 at I-880 in East Oakland, lol
Route 154 at US 101 in Santa Barbara
Route 78 at I-5 and Vista Way in Oceanside
Route 56 at I-15 near Poway
Kearny Villa Road (former US 395/I-15) at Route 163 (former US 395) in Miramar, San Diego
Friars Road (mostly freeflowing east of this point) at Route 163, San Diego
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: Rothman on August 20, 2023, 08:25:44 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 20, 2023, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: Rothman on August 20, 2023, 07:51:08 AM
What about I-535/US 53 at I-35?  There was at least one light in that interchange and then US 53 becomes a surface street to go up the hill.

Eh, probably doesn't count.  Too early in the morning for this.

There's another interchange on 53 at West 21st north of I-35, so the freeway doesn't technically end northbound at I-35.
Heh.  Google Maps is saying the connection allowing US 53 to go from the Blatnik up the hill is still severed due to the ongoing construction...
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on August 21, 2023, 01:31:33 AM
Quote from: Rothman on August 20, 2023, 08:25:44 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 20, 2023, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: Rothman on August 20, 2023, 07:51:08 AM
What about I-535/US 53 at I-35?  There was at least one light in that interchange and then US 53 becomes a surface street to go up the hill.

Eh, probably doesn't count.  Too early in the morning for this.

There's another interchange on 53 at West 21st north of I-35, so the freeway doesn't technically end northbound at I-35.
Heh.  Google Maps is saying the connection allowing US 53 to go from the Blatnik up the hill is still severed due to the ongoing construction...

Corresct. There is no connection whatsoever between 35 and 535/53 right now, nor are 535 and 53 able to be driven through. Last I heard, construction working on 53 to the north uncovered an indigenous person's remains, and never heard an update on if construction was allowed to resume there or still on hold while tribal authorities continue investigating.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: Great Lakes Roads on August 21, 2023, 01:50:37 AM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on August 20, 2023, 02:57:55 PM
The brand new section of US 31 NB at Benton Harbor becomes Main St upon crossing I-94.

US 31 NB at South Bend becomes Michigan St. upon crossing US 20.

A couple from Indy:

US 31 SB becomes Meridian Street upon crossing I-465.
I-69 SB becomes Binford Boulevard upon crossing I-465. (This will change in 2025)
I-74 WB becomes Southeastern Avenue upon crossing I-465.
Former one: I-74 EB became Crawfordsville Road when crossing I-465.
Another former one in southwestern Indiana: I-164 (now I-69) became SR 57 when crossing I-64.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: ran4sh on August 21, 2023, 02:00:58 AM
Some of y'all are answering with normal freeway-freeway interchanges where one leg becomes a surface street, the OP was specifically about interchanges where the freeway that becomes a surface street, has traffic lights.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: jakeroot on August 21, 2023, 06:30:06 AM
Quote from: Bruce on August 20, 2023, 01:53:14 PM
If we're counting termini: WA 518 at WA 509 in Burien and WA 512 at I-5 in Lakewood.

WA 99 at WA 509 in Seattle is another case, where traffic continuing from the South Park Freeway to WA 99 must take a signalized left and marge onto the 1st Avenue South Bridge.

Another Washington example: WA-509 at I-705 in Tacoma (https://goo.gl/maps/g2H2WLg26uvmBcEz6). 509 ends at a [signalized] SPUI above I-705, and then continues into Tacoma as S 21st. Eventually it goes up the hill and becomes a rather inconsequential residential street (https://goo.gl/maps/vUTSjcgL2VMhSXCZ7) that doesn't even have priority at most intersections.

In fact, come to think of it, I cannot think of any other roads that undergo this level of transition over such a short span. Third of a mile from freeway to unmarked residential street.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: KCRoadFan on August 21, 2023, 06:49:58 AM
Quote from: ran4sh on August 21, 2023, 02:00:58 AM
Some of y'all are answering with normal freeway-freeway interchanges where one leg becomes a surface street, the OP was specifically about interchanges where the freeway that becomes a surface street, has traffic lights.

Yes - and that's what the question would have been, if the maximum character limit hadn't stood in the way.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: jakeroot on August 21, 2023, 07:17:13 AM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 21, 2023, 06:49:58 AM
Quote from: ran4sh on August 21, 2023, 02:00:58 AM
Some of y'all are answering with normal freeway-freeway interchanges where one leg becomes a surface street, the OP was specifically about interchanges where the freeway that becomes a surface street, has traffic lights.

Yes - and that's what the question would have been, if the maximum character limit hadn't stood in the way.

How about, "Signalized freeway terminus, but continues as surface street"?
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: Big John on August 21, 2023, 07:29:45 AM
WI 54/57 freeway segment in Green Bay ends just south of the I-43 interchange at a traffic signal at University Ave.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: GaryV on August 21, 2023, 07:54:04 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 20, 2023, 06:29:38 PM
West end of the Davison Freeway at M-10 in Detroit.  Davison Avenue continues west to I-96 and actually a bit beyond. 
The eastern end of the Davison too. The freeway ends after I-75.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: roadman65 on August 21, 2023, 08:02:07 AM
Asheville, NC on I-240 WB. It ( and I-26) TOTSO where US 19/23 SB remain as mainline to abruptly become Patton Avenue.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: roadman65 on August 21, 2023, 08:13:03 AM
Carthage, MO.  MO 96 at I-49/ US 71 is a freeway from the west, but gets traffic signals at the interstate- US Highway diamond interchange before becoming a city street in Carthage.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: wanderer2575 on August 21, 2023, 08:42:36 AM
Quote from: GaryV on August 21, 2023, 07:54:04 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 20, 2023, 06:29:38 PM
West end of the Davison Freeway at M-10 in Detroit.  Davison Avenue continues west to I-96 and actually a bit beyond. 
The eastern end of the Davison too. The freeway ends after I-75.

I didn't mention that because the freeway actually continues another 0.8 miles to end at Gallagher Street.  But none of my examples counts if the OP is looking for a traffic signal.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: KCRoadFan on August 21, 2023, 10:42:12 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 21, 2023, 07:17:13 AM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 21, 2023, 06:49:58 AM
Quote from: ran4sh on August 21, 2023, 02:00:58 AM
Some of y'all are answering with normal freeway-freeway interchanges where one leg becomes a surface street, the OP was specifically about interchanges where the freeway that becomes a surface street, has traffic lights.

Yes - and that's what the question would have been, if the maximum character limit hadn't stood in the way.

How about, "Signalized freeway terminus, but continues as surface street"?

Great idea - but how do I change the title of a thread that I've already created and that's already been replied to? I haven't done such a thing before during my more than three years as a member.
Title: Re: Example thread rename
Post by: hotdogPi on August 21, 2023, 10:45:11 AM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 21, 2023, 10:42:12 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 21, 2023, 07:17:13 AM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 21, 2023, 06:49:58 AM
Quote from: ran4sh on August 21, 2023, 02:00:58 AM
Some of y'all are answering with normal freeway-freeway interchanges where one leg becomes a surface street, the OP was specifically about interchanges where the freeway that becomes a surface street, has traffic lights.

Yes - and that's what the question would have been, if the maximum character limit hadn't stood in the way.

How about, "Signalized freeway terminus, but continues as surface street"?

Great idea - but how do I change the title of a thread that I've already created and that's already been replied to? I haven't done such a thing before during my more than three years as a member.

Click on "modify" on the original post, and then change the title from there.

You can see how I did so on the post I'm typing right now. However, the title of the thread is considered to be the title of the original post, so what I just did right now won't change it permanently, while you editing the OP will.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: Revive 755 on August 21, 2023, 10:34:59 PM
* MO 96 at I-49 in the Joplin area (https://goo.gl/maps/xDn8RP5tNUGcUJWy8)

* MO 367 at I-270 qualifies now. (https://goo.gl/maps/p98KeyheChQnrDW77)

* Sam Jones Expressway at I-465 in the Indianapolis area (https://goo.gl/maps/rrr4cwqyVFu1dLC36) comes close - it just doesn't continue on much west of I-465.

* There's the IN 641/US 40 combination at I-70 in Terre Haute (https://goo.gl/maps/WDZwowDqq6qDEvT16)
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: ChiMilNet on August 21, 2023, 11:00:18 PM
J T Butler Blvd (FL Route 202) at Interstate 95 in Jacksonville, FL
Interstate 4 at Interstate 95 in Daytona Beach, FL
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: roadman65 on August 21, 2023, 11:32:40 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 21, 2023, 10:34:59 PM
* MO 96 at I-49 in the Joplin area (https://goo.gl/maps/xDn8RP5tNUGcUJWy8)
Check Post 37.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: Henry on August 22, 2023, 10:03:33 PM
I-290/Eisenhower Expressway becomes Ida B. Wells Drive (AKA Congress Parkway) east of the Jane Byrne/Circle Interchange.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on August 23, 2023, 01:35:44 AM
Quote from: Henry on August 22, 2023, 10:03:33 PM
I-290/Eisenhower Expressway becomes Ida B. Wells Drive (AKA Congress Parkway) east of the Jane Byrne/Circle Interchange.

But I-290 doesn't have traffic lights at I-90/94, which is a required element of this question.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: JayhawkCO on August 23, 2023, 02:02:04 AM
A couple of examples I can think of:

I-395 in Bangor. Technically, it continues all the way until US2, which is an intersection with a stoplight.
CO47 in Pueblo. It's a freeway all around the town until it reaches I-25, then a stoplight.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: jakeroot on August 23, 2023, 03:29:06 AM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 21, 2023, 10:42:12 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 21, 2023, 07:17:13 AM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 21, 2023, 06:49:58 AM
Quote from: ran4sh on August 21, 2023, 02:00:58 AM
Some of y'all are answering with normal freeway-freeway interchanges where one leg becomes a surface street, the OP was specifically about interchanges where the freeway that becomes a surface street, has traffic lights.

Yes - and that's what the question would have been, if the maximum character limit hadn't stood in the way.

How about, "Signalized freeway terminus, but continues as surface street"?

Great idea - but how do I change the title of a thread that I've already created and that's already been replied to? I haven't done such a thing before during my more than three years as a member.

Just go to the first post you made (the original post) and change the subject line of that post. All subsequent replies to the thread will be then be "re: Signalized freeway..."
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: wriddle082 on August 23, 2023, 06:20:12 AM
US 6 at I-70 just outside of Golden, CO.  US 6 has traffic lights west of I-70.

Both junctions of TN 155 and I-40 in Nashville qualify.  On the west side there are traffic lights at the I-40 interchange, and on the east side there is a traffic light immediately south of the I-40 interchange at Karen Dr.

In Cookeville, TN, TN 111 is a freeway north of I-40, but has a standard diamond interchange at I-40 and is non-freeway for a couple of miles south of it until the TN 136 interchange.

US 220 north at I-40 in Greensboro, NC continues north of the interchange as Freeman Mill Blvd and has traffic lights.


Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: Brandon on August 23, 2023, 07:09:46 AM
The US-127/I-94 north/west junction at Jackson, Michigan.  US-127 is a freeway north of there, all the way up toward Grayling, yet the interchange is signalized and the street continues as a surface street into Jackson: https://goo.gl/maps/hHM6EX4p3aovScDw7
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: roadman65 on August 23, 2023, 07:14:44 AM
GA 204 in Savannah. East of I-95 to US 17 is a freeway, but has stoplights at I-95 and a non freeway west of it.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: KCRoadFan on August 23, 2023, 09:19:12 AM
I just thought of another example: US 151/Verona Road in Madison, which has traffic lights when it encounters the Beltline and turns into Midvale Boulevard on the other side of it. (Although it does have a couple lights south of the Beltline, so not a full freeway.)
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: JayhawkCO on August 23, 2023, 09:38:36 AM
Quote from: wriddle082 on August 23, 2023, 06:20:12 AM
US 6 at I-70 just outside of Golden, CO.  US 6 has traffic lights west of I-70.

But it doesn't have traffic lights AT I-70, which is what the OP is going for.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: RobbieL2415 on August 23, 2023, 11:28:05 AM
I-89 after intersecting I-93 in Concord, NH.
MA 146 after intersecting I-290 in Worcester.
Hutchinson River Pkwy after intersecting I-678/I-95
Mosholu Pkwy after intersecting I-87
CT 2 after intersecting I-395
CT 3 after intersecting I-91
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: hotdogPi on August 23, 2023, 11:45:37 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on August 23, 2023, 11:28:05 AM
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Did you read the OP?
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: 7/8 on August 23, 2023, 12:13:18 PM
Quote from: 1 on August 23, 2023, 11:45:37 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on August 23, 2023, 11:28:05 AM
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Did you read the OP?

This is going to continue until OP updates the thread title...




Highbury Avenue in London, ON is a freeway north of the 401 to Hamilton Road. It has traffic lights at the 401 (parclo A4 interchange), then continues south as a surface road to St. Thomas.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: Flint1979 on August 23, 2023, 12:52:35 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 21, 2023, 08:42:36 AM
Quote from: GaryV on August 21, 2023, 07:54:04 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 20, 2023, 06:29:38 PM
West end of the Davison Freeway at M-10 in Detroit.  Davison Avenue continues west to I-96 and actually a bit beyond. 
The eastern end of the Davison too. The freeway ends after I-75.

I didn't mention that because the freeway actually continues another 0.8 miles to end at Gallagher Street.  But none of my examples counts if the OP is looking for a traffic signal.
It's one that I thought of too but the freeway ends at Rosa Parks on the west and like you said Gallagher on the east end. The Southfield Freeway example is probably a better one.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: SkyPesos on August 23, 2023, 12:54:12 PM
- OH 126 east of I-71 in Cincinnati. The interchange from I-71 is an A4 parclo.

- Work is going on to replace the last two at-grade intersections with interchanges on OH 32 between I-275 and Batavia. This would turn this section of OH 32 into a freeway, leaving a hybrid A4 parclo with a SB to EB flyover at the west end of the freeway section.

- Keystone Ave south of I-465 in Indianapolis. With the upgrade of the Keystone and 96th St junction from an at-grade intersection to a dogbone, it's effectively a freeway north of I-465, with the I-465 interchange itself being an A4 parclo.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: DTComposer on August 23, 2023, 01:01:07 PM
Kinda-sorta: I-880 at CA-237 in Milpitas, CA: https://goo.gl/maps/Fp92CnWD9kJ5LAiJ6

CA-237 is freeway west of the junction, Calaveras Blvd. east of the junction. Some connections between freeways are direct, but some (such as NB I-880 to WB CA-237) go through a signal.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on August 24, 2023, 08:22:09 AM
I think the southern terminus of VA 37 counts - it ceases to be a freeway at the I-81 interchange (which is a diamond with signals) and continues as a surface street before ending at Tasker Rd.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: KCRoadFan on August 24, 2023, 09:53:02 AM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 21, 2023, 06:49:58 AM
Quote from: ran4sh on August 21, 2023, 02:00:58 AM
Some of y'all are answering with normal freeway-freeway interchanges where one leg becomes a surface street, the OP was specifically about interchanges where the freeway that becomes a surface street, has traffic lights.

Yes - and that's what the question would have been, if the maximum character limit hadn't stood in the way.

As it is, I thought of a new thread title even better than the suggested one!
Title: Re: Traffic lights at interchanges where freeways turn into surface streets
Post by: webny99 on August 24, 2023, 12:16:18 PM
MN 62/Crosstown Hwy is a near-example. It's a freeway that ends with signals at I-494, but with one other signal just east of I-494 at Clearwater Dr.



Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 24, 2023, 09:53:02 AM
As it is, I thought of a new thread title even better than the suggested one!

I like it. I was even going to poke a hole in it by suggesting any freeway that ends at a traffic light, but specifying "interchanges" has that covered.
Title: Re: Freeways that become surface streets upon crossing another freeway
Post by: SeriesE on August 24, 2023, 01:17:10 PM
Quote from: DTComposer on August 23, 2023, 01:01:07 PM
Kinda-sorta: I-880 at CA-237 in Milpitas, CA: https://goo.gl/maps/Fp92CnWD9kJ5LAiJ6

CA-237 is freeway west of the junction, Calaveras Blvd. east of the junction. Some connections between freeways are direct, but some (such as NB I-880 to WB CA-237) go through a signal.

The west end is similar. Officially the freeway ends immediately to the west of the CA-85 interchange.