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Title: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: kurumi on September 07, 2010, 05:26:27 PM
Does a collection of all known "Historic US Route" marker numbers (preferably with photos) exist? I've heard of or seen markers for US 30, 40, 66, 99 and 101. I have photos for 40 and 99 buried somewhere on my network drive.

I'll contribute a US 101 sign from San Diego: http://www.flickr.com/photos/therealkurumi/4423568099/
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: TheStranger on September 07, 2010, 05:27:54 PM
Here's a Historic 66 sign in Southern California from my photo collection:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash1%2Fhs283.ash1%2F21058_857758268423_3216777_47584546_6657272_n.jpg&hash=35f91566680a7bf98866f1f96c875bdc624f2da8)
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: froggie on September 07, 2010, 09:05:40 PM
I have a photo of 441 (from Georgia) buried somewhere on my hard drive.
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: xonhulu on September 07, 2010, 09:21:38 PM
Here's US 30:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FUS30HISTCorbett2.jpg%3Ft%3D1276134892&hash=5f90617e10e8d08bc453687e6279451944bf924d)

I also have a US 89A from Arizona:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FUS%2520Routes%2FAZ89AUS89AHISTCottonwood1.jpg%3Ft%3D1283908733&hash=426478d1b5a894d23fd6e62f84f600050819e1bc)

Finally, here's a blurry US 99W from California:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FUS%2520Routes%2FUS99WWilliamsCA1.jpg%3Ft%3D1283908874&hash=0ce005d878c6bd38cf3af984952e9c0cc19e1980)
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: Dougtone on September 07, 2010, 09:46:59 PM
Here's a couple of Historic US 66 shields from Illinois...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2645%2F3709747122_02f0d95d70_d.jpg&hash=01838fde7951bdacdddcc217cc531ac2fbcec7b4)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2640%2F3709742400_11be8df901_d.jpg&hash=d7e9dc5763b43daac11fe6b07d04cc71f3bd2466)
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: US71 on September 08, 2010, 10:11:27 AM
US 66
Illinois
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2503%2F4200872695_2719319eac_z_d.jpg%3Fzz%3D1&hash=2064d8b3fd9306bdae34256c26541a5864baf4f3)

Missouri
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2255%2F2267714903_fff0b2a63c_o_d.jpg&hash=955e1e7213b693d007ff1097f81eb89b17a37451)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm2.static.flickr.com%2F1015%2F4726497358_19dd9d31f7_z_d.jpg&hash=0ae4cabe32bf1c85bc4a5bab22e5d861de6dc5dd)

Oklahoma
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2684%2F4209212542_c99183d649_z_d.jpg&hash=2db6ffcccbe842e09314b00039de42bbf25d32a7)
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: xonhulu on September 08, 2010, 08:17:22 PM
I found a US 40 from California:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FUS%2520Routes%2FUS40Vacaville.jpg%3Ft%3D1283991378&hash=eb972d848b1de716a26823b199844bfdeac7d7c6)
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: hbelkins on September 08, 2010, 10:43:39 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2F2008_Atlanta_Day_2%2FImages%2F49.jpg&hash=8aef161ceaa4bdcf9c085eb23966686b668a3deb)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2F2008_Atlanta_Day_2%2FImages%2F61.jpg&hash=7e5e92b5ee4599b8b7332a12d83c207566937fea)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2F2008_Atlanta_Day_2%2FImages%2F51.jpg&hash=072fafe18d4f9c7c78858614173465ae488cdb76)
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: agentsteel53 on September 08, 2010, 11:27:22 PM
the 99W is excellent.  Here is a better photo of one like it.

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/CA/CA19510994i1.jpg)

these shields are the best you'll find in California - they use the original 1949 specification patterns.  That more than makes up for that horrific choice of compressed Arial* for the "HISTORIC ROUTE" legend.

I've seen them in 66, 99, and 99W forms - alas, a lot of horrible shields abound in the state as well.  I will not dignify their existence by posting photos.  Here, instead, is a nice 66.

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/CA/CA19510665i1.jpg)

*I know it's not Arial, ScottN.  They're all equally awful.
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: national highway 1 on September 09, 2010, 06:00:23 AM
Historic US 66, Amarillo, TX.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usends.com%2FFocus%2FAmarillo%2F6th_wb_at_fillmore.jpg&hash=dd9521cb09a3bde13eaa1e02cf1cb9529c511a88)
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: Quillz on September 09, 2010, 12:28:11 PM
Does anyone know if Oregon signs historic US 28 or US 126?
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: agentsteel53 on September 09, 2010, 01:07:30 PM
Quote from: Quillz on September 09, 2010, 12:28:11 PM
Does anyone know if Oregon signs historic US 28 or US 126?

I have never seen either.  There are a few US-126 shields on OR-126 but they are not old; just errors.  Have never seen a US-28 shield, historic, error or otherwise.  I have only one old photo of such a thing.

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/OR/OR19260281i1.jpg)

photo is from 1948.
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: luokou on September 09, 2010, 04:33:12 PM
If Oregon were to sign historic US 28 and US 126, it would be interesting to see the resulting anachronistic duplex! Though, i would just as equally prefer OR-126 be reverted back to its former US route status, including the Eugene-Florence segment.
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: xonhulu on September 09, 2010, 09:52:09 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 09, 2010, 01:07:30 PM
I have never seen either.  There are a few US-126 shields on OR-126 but they are not old; just errors.  Have never seen a US-28 shield, historic, error or otherwise.  I have only one old photo of such a thing.

photo is from 1948.

So you did cough up the $15.00 for the John Day photo.  Excellent!

The only reason Oregon has Historic 30 signed is because the Historic Columbia River Highway Commission decided the old signs were too hard to read, and they modeled the new ones after California's historic route shields.  I don't get the impression ODOT has any general interest in signing historic routes, especially since the two major routes, 99 and 126, still carry those numbers as state routes.
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: agentsteel53 on September 10, 2010, 12:55:09 AM
Quote from: xonhulu on September 09, 2010, 09:52:09 PM

So you did cough up the $15.00 for the John Day photo.  Excellent!

sure did!
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: TheStranger on September 15, 2010, 05:04:42 PM
395 apparently now has historic signs in San Diego County as of 2008:
http://www.floodgap.com/roadgap/395/old/u6/

http://www.floodgap.com/roadgap/395/old/u6/assets/01162.JPG
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: agentsteel53 on September 15, 2010, 05:43:53 PM
and Massachusetts has historic US 6 made to the same spec as the California equivalent out in the Palmcaster area. 
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: Alps on September 16, 2010, 12:08:48 AM
I can now point you toward ones in Oklahoma City with a separate banner indicating years, since there were multiple alignments through the city (Admiral Pl, 11th St, freeways). http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ok/ok_66/o.html and scroll down.
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: TheStranger on September 16, 2010, 01:30:29 AM
Quote from: AlpsROADS on September 16, 2010, 12:08:48 AM
I can now point you toward ones in Oklahoma City with a separate banner indicating years, since there were multiple alignments through the city (Admiral Pl, 11th St, freeways). http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ok/ok_66/o.html and scroll down.

I don't have a photo of it, but I recall the Historic US 99 sign somewhere near Figueroa Street a little bit away from downtown Los Angeles having the years marked on it too.  Not sure where this is done elsewhere, none of Historic US 40 in NorCal is marked as such.
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: agentsteel53 on September 16, 2010, 01:37:58 AM
Illinois marks the years - especially at junctions of two old alignments.
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: TheStranger on September 16, 2010, 01:43:48 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 16, 2010, 01:37:58 AM
Illinois marks the years - especially at junctions of two old alignments.

It seems like in places where multiple old alignments existed, this is absolutely useful.  I don't think California has quite evolved yet to the point that multiple old routings are being marked yet...

Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: Brandon on September 16, 2010, 10:32:45 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 16, 2010, 01:37:58 AM
Illinois marks the years - especially at junctions of two old alignments.

Not always.  The 1926, 1940, and 1956 routings are not marked by date in Will and Grundy Counties.  Only the original 1926 routing is fully signed even with the historic alignment signs in downtown Plainfield (1940 alignment).  The 1956 alignment, of course, is currently I-55.
Title: Re: Historic US route markers collection?
Post by: RustyK on September 16, 2010, 11:58:36 AM
I don't understand the historic significance of Business 441.  66, 99, sure.  395, eh, okay.  But 441?  Is there any particular reason it's signed that way?  Was it a route of that much importance?