https://maps.app.goo.gl/K5kS786LQvC6gwi3A
Here is a Holiday In and Days Inn next door to each other in 2012.
Here are the same two properties in 2022.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/4PoykZjYS8fojStc9
Notice the Days Inn moved into the former Holiday Inn.
What's even more ironic is that the current Meadowlands View Hotel ( former Days Inn) was previously another Holiday Inn.
How many move up a few lots or properties from their original?
The MGM Grand on the Las Vegas Strip was originally the casino/resort/hotel that is now known as Horseshoe (was Bally's for a good while).
MGM Grand moved .75mile south on the Strip and has occupied its current home on the NE corner of Las Vegas Blvd & Tropicana for just a few years now
I believe the Hampton Inn I stayed at in Rapid City, SD, back in 2022, is now a different brand. Amusingly, at the time, the replacement Hampton Inn was very close by and also open.
In Boise near the airport, there's an old Holiday Inn right off Vista, that was still a Holiday Inn as of 2008 on Street View. At some point, they pulled out and it's changed brands multiple times, and is currently a Ramada and is very run down. The Holiday Inn moved a few blocks to the west on Elder Street, taking over a Cambria Suites. That's still a nice and well kept property (and there's also a Holiday Inn Express directly behind it, which likely confuses people showing up to the wrong one).
Quote from: roadman65 on March 05, 2024, 12:14:55 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/K5kS786LQvC6gwi3A
Here is a Holiday In and Days Inn next door to each other in 2012.
Fun fact: I've stayed at that Days Inn (the one that's now the Meadowlands View Hotel). I had a pretty small room with a view to the west.
Quote from: doorknob60 on March 05, 2024, 10:30:52 AM
In Boise near the airport, there's an old Holiday Inn right off Vista, that was still a Holiday Inn as of 2008 on Street View. At some point, they pulled out and it's changed brands multiple times, and is currently a Ramada and is very run down.
Funner fact: I've also stayed at that hotel. Well, kind of. There are two out buildings connected to the main building of that complex, which were spun off, in a sense. They each became their own properties, currently an America's Best and a Lotus. I stayed at what is now the America's Best while the renovations to give the building its own street entrance and front desk and so on were being completed.
Quote from: ilpt4u on March 05, 2024, 12:24:15 AM
The MGM Grand on the Las Vegas Strip was originally the casino/resort/hotel that is now known as Horseshoe (was Bally's for a good while).
MGM Grand moved .75mile south on the Strip and has occupied its current home on the NE corner of Las Vegas Blvd & Tropicana for just a few years now
And, of course, the original Horseshoe was on Fremont Street (now called Binion's, after the founder of the Horseshoe, Benny Binion).
Long ago I gave up trying to keep track of all of the hotel/motel moves, openings and closings here in the Appleton, WI area, there have been so many of them. 'Musical hotel names'.
Mike
Quote from: roadman65 on March 05, 2024, 12:14:55 AM
What's even more ironic is that the current Meadowlands View Hotel ( former Days Inn) was previously another Holiday Inn.
This hotel seems to now be known as the Essence Hotel Meadowlands (https://www.essencemeadowlandsnyc.com).
Many of the family and business hotel chains (Days Inn, Hampton Inn, Comfort Inn, etc.) operate by one of two models:
- Hotel property is owned by the hotel group, who leases it to an operator.
- Hotel property is owned by the operator, who franchises the hotel chain.
Not all of them, mind you, but enough of them that this phenomenon is fairly common. Either the hotel owner-operator changes franchises, or the hotel chain sells the property to a new hotel chain with the existing operator going along for the ride.
Many of the high-end chains also operate one of these two models, but it's less frequent with more of the chains themselves being the owner/operator.
Quote from: mgk920 on March 05, 2024, 01:58:26 PM
Long ago I gave up trying to keep track of all of the hotel/motel moves, openings and closings here in the Appleton, WI area, there have been so many of them. 'Musical hotel names'.
Mike
The downtown Paper Valley establishment's been through many operators. (Now listed as operated by Hilton of all operators)
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 05, 2024, 12:57:19 AM
I believe the Hampton Inn I stayed at in Rapid City, SD, back in 2022, is now a different brand. Amusingly, at the time, the replacement Hampton Inn was very close by and also open.
It's a "dis"comfort Inn.
One of the things about Hampton Inn is some of the architecture of their four floor buildings. When a new franchise or operator takes over the building remains the same. I once saw a Comfort Inn that by looking at it you can see was a Hampton at one time.
Same with old Howard Johnson's as many still operate today with the old building design and the lobby has that one building with the tile steep slant roof. Of course many of them are various hotels now as Ho Jo by Wyndham has new buildings built for their version of Howard Johnson not at all using the original chain properties.
Quote from: roadman65 on March 05, 2024, 08:16:59 PM
One of the things about Hampton Inn is some of the architecture of their four floor buildings. When a new franchise or operator takes over the building remains the same. I once saw a Comfort Inn that by looking at it you can see was a Hampton at one time.
I'm a stone's throw from a Sheraton-turned-Clarion-turned Comfort, as well as a purpose-built Hampton Inn that replaced the original one at that site within the past half-decade.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/hhnSjoaBeL3cU3kB9
Former Hampton Inn on Old US 66 in Countryside, IL.
I stayed here in 1993 when it was a Hampton. You can see the original design is still present.
Quote from: roadman65 on March 05, 2024, 08:16:59 PM
One of the things about Hampton Inn is some of the architecture of their four floor buildings. When a new franchise or operator takes over the building remains the same. I once saw a Comfort Inn that by looking at it you can see was a Hampton at one time.
Same with old Howard Johnson's as many still operate today with the old building design and the lobby has that one building with the tile steep slant roof. Of course many of them are various hotels now as Ho Jo by Wyndham has new buildings built for their version of Howard Johnson not at all using the original chain properties.
I have a friend that had no idea Howard Johnson's used to be a restaurant chain. He only knew the hotels. He is 40.
Quote from: roadman65 on March 05, 2024, 08:43:02 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/hhnSjoaBeL3cU3kB9
Former Hampton Inn on Old US 66 in Countryside, IL.
I stayed here in 1993 when it was a Hampton. You can see the original design is still present.
Here's another, in Cranberry PA (north of Pittsburgh) that's now a Wingate. A new Hampton was built about 1.5 miles away, and both existed for a while but that changed sometime last year.
Old: https://maps.app.goo.gl/3tUUKrHVQFMys8Ly7
New: https://maps.app.goo.gl/RzzRp8QpKH5dNoTf9
Quote from: GCrites80s on March 05, 2024, 08:49:07 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 05, 2024, 08:16:59 PM
One of the things about Hampton Inn is some of the architecture of their four floor buildings. When a new franchise or operator takes over the building remains the same. I once saw a Comfort Inn that by looking at it you can see was a Hampton at one time.
Same with old Howard Johnson's as many still operate today with the old building design and the lobby has that one building with the tile steep slant roof. Of course many of them are various hotels now as Ho Jo by Wyndham has new buildings built for their version of Howard Johnson not at all using the original chain properties.
I have a friend that had no idea Howard Johnson's used to be a restaurant chain. He only knew the hotels. He is 40.
I didn't know HJ was also a restaurant until I read an article on it. The restaurant was more regional in the East while the hotel was nationwide
He is from rural NE Ohio whereas I am from central Ohio. We had quite a few HJ restaurants but his area might have not.
Ho Jo Restaurant started it all. The Motor Lodges came after.
Quote from: GCrites80s on March 05, 2024, 08:49:07 PM
I have a friend that had no idea Howard Johnson's used to be a restaurant chain. He only knew the hotels. He is 40.
I'm 42, and I only know it used to be a restaurant because of Frank Zappa's long song
Billy the Mountain.
Quote from: kphoger on March 06, 2024, 09:56:58 AM
Quote from: GCrites80s on March 05, 2024, 08:49:07 PM
I have a friend that had no idea Howard Johnson's used to be a restaurant chain. He only knew the hotels. He is 40.
I'm 42, and I only know it used to be a restaurant because of Frank Zappa's long song Billy the Mountain.
I still had more than a few around me as a kid. I used to go to one in Woburn MA all the time with a cousin into the mid-80's.
Here's a list:
https://www.uniqhotels.com/moving-hotels/
The fmr Days Inn on Lovell Rd in Knoxville TN was next to a Motel 6 then it became a Motel 6 sometime in the late 2000's. It was later rebranded as a Budget Inn before being torn down sometime around 2019.
When visiting my grandparents in Buffalo, we'd stay at a Sheraton, but then they became The Millennium (and now just "The M"). Apparently they went downhill and our regular place became a Hampton Inn.
I believe we've had a member or two here that worked in hospitality which mentioned brand standards to be kept up. Or sometimes it's easier to downgrade or just "shift laterally" to another brand if they insist on a new property. (Search is bugged out on my phone.)
If I'm staying somewhere again, and the hotel was trouble-free, I'll try to book it again, especially if there appears to be a dearth of optimal choices. But I've had a few instances where I travel and find that the Holiday Inn has become another property or a Hampton Inn has become something else entirely.
But there's also been a few occasions that a property "upgrades" (usually a tourist area where real estate is at a premium) and a Comfort Inn becomes a Fairfield Inn or a Country Inn & Suites totally remodels to a Hilton property.
Thought this thread was about hotels with a moving floor feature, such as a restaurant on the top floor. These seem to be going the way of the dinosaur.
Very disappointing thread, 0/10 do not recommend!
I grimace at the fact that downgrades have been more common than upgrades in my experience. Parent companies just seem to be bleeding brands dry.
Quote from: wriddle082 on March 30, 2025, 10:52:22 AMThought this thread was about hotels with a moving floor feature, such as a restaurant on the top floor. These seem to be going the way of the dinosaur.
Very disappointing thread, 0/10 do not recommend!
Tampa Airport still has that revolving rooftop cocktail lounge so everyone can view the planes as one side faces the terminal.
What gets me is how the waiters find their tables as a different part of the dining room is outside the kitchen each time you walk through the door.
Quote from: Rothman on March 30, 2025, 11:35:36 AMI grimace at the fact that downgrades have been more common than upgrades in my experience. Parent companies just seem to be bleeding brands dry.
Me too, but on rare occasions there are full gut and rebuilds for brand upgrades. There is a Doubletree in North Charleston, SC on Ashley Phosphate Rd. with a prominent view from I-26 that used to be something else. Probably an old Ramada or Holiday Inn. It's just a big rectangular block facing the highway, which they built a lot of back in the day, and in the back they have a Homewood Suites attached.
I have a map of all Ibis hotels in France. There are three types ("plain" Ibis, Ibis budget and Ibis Styles, which I refer to with the color of their logos: red, blue and green respectively). So far I've noted two cases of such hotel moves: An Ibis Styles in Bordeaux which moved around the corner, and one case near Toulouse where an Ibis budget became Ibis Styles and a few years later the Ibis budget was rebuilt nearby.
Quote from: Rothman on March 30, 2025, 11:35:36 AMI grimace at the fact that downgrades have been more common than upgrades in my experience. Parent companies just seem to be bleeding brands dry.
Always bet on entropy.
I don't really have a problem with downgrades; it makes visiting other cities more affordable.
It wasn't a hotel, but my most recent B&B (for froggie's Albany meet) was $57 for one night after fees. It was kind of barebones, but I would definitely have taken that over a fancy $150 B&B or hotel.
Housing seems to be doing the exact opposite; all new apartments seem to be branded luxury. This is pricing people out.
($57 per day is less than monthly rent where I live, by the way.)
Quote from: formulanone on March 30, 2025, 10:34:23 AMI believe we've had a member or two here that worked in hospitality which mentioned brand standards to be kept up. Or sometimes it's easier to downgrade or just "shift laterally" to another brand if they insist on a new property. (Search is bugged out on my phone.)
I was the F&B Director at the Jacquard Hotel & Rooftop, which is an Autograph Collection hotel by Marriott. We had to have certain standards (elite breakfast, room service, etc.) to be allowed to remain in that group (and charge accordingly). But, thankfully Autograph Collection meant we had a lot of independence on offerings. If you're a "Marriott Marriott", you have to have certain brands of alcohol, certain snacks in the pantry/gift shop, certain uniforms, etc. None of that applied to us.
I heard about a "moving hotel" of sorts that I thought went bankrupt a decade ago.
https://vonlane.com/
Quote from: roadman65 on March 05, 2024, 12:14:55 AMhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/K5kS786LQvC6gwi3A
Here is a Holiday In and Days Inn next door to each other in 2012.
Here are the same two properties in 2022.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/4PoykZjYS8fojStc9
Notice the Days Inn moved into the former Holiday Inn.
What's even more ironic is that the current Meadowlands View Hotel ( former Days Inn) was previously another Holiday Inn.
How many move up a few lots or properties from their original?
I mentioned in a thread called something like "two of the same business viewable from the same location" that Motel 6 bought a Howard Johnson's a couple hundred meters down the street, signed them both as "Motel 6".
Quote from: roadman65 on March 05, 2024, 12:14:55 AMhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/K5kS786LQvC6gwi3A
Here is a Holiday In and Days Inn next door to each other in 2012.
Here are the same two properties in 2022.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/4PoykZjYS8fojStc9
Notice the Days Inn moved into the former Holiday Inn.
What's even more ironic is that the current Meadowlands View Hotel ( former Days Inn) was previously another Holiday Inn.
How many move up a few lots or properties from their original?
The Meadowlands View Hotel is now a Ramada. And not a good one, from what I can glean from the reviews. Incidentally, I stayed at this hotel when it was the Days Hotel, and I thought it was fine. My room had recently been redone, and everything was still brand new.