What are some odd/rare traffic signs you have seen in Wisconsin?
Do Not Pass / Pass With Care. When my family lived in Wisconsin in the 1970s, they were both used with the No Passing Zone signs like Michigan continues to use. Not sure when they were pulled up leaving only No Passing Zone signs, but they are rare now.
Quote from: hockeyjohn on March 07, 2024, 05:10:46 PM
Do Not Pass / Pass With Care. When my family lived in Wisconsin in the 1970s, they were both used with the No Passing Zone signs like Michigan continues to use. Not sure when they were pulled up leaving only No Passing Zone signs, but they are rare now.
Early 1980s
Blank highway shields in Madison:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/52CbqSkBN8KrkWCdA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/72KVKqh2hTzjzsSJA
I think this BGS is the only Clearview LGS or BGS in the state (the Rimrock Rd 1/2 mile advance sign, on the WB Beltline, just after John Nolen Dr).
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.043322,-89.3694271,3a,75y,264.57h,89.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3zrUiKbA8zO7GCm2pCi_-A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.043322,-89.3694271,3a,75y,264.57h,89.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3zrUiKbA8zO7GCm2pCi_-A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
I believe WISDOT tested Clearview on the Beltline a dozen or so years ago (by making all the exit signs/sequence signs Clearview), and this seems to be the only sign that wasn't replaced with a Highway Gothic version.
^^ Also this IDOT installation on the Wisconsin side of the border: https://maps.app.goo.gl/mZejRzqW1dyiRGvb9
Madison still has this beauty, right?
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50942975238_3730e1167f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kBE4Hh)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50942974848_4269988b26_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kBE4Ay)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50943775552_69394c35fe_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kBJaBN)
...the great-granddaddy of all road signs in the state, located in Baraboo:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52045131362_5d64c21655_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ni3Uk5)
Quote from: tman on March 07, 2024, 06:36:41 PM
I believe WISDOT tested Clearview on the Beltline a dozen or so years ago (by making all the exit signs/sequence signs Clearview), and this seems to be the only sign that wasn't replaced with a Highway Gothic version.
That must have been recently; a lot of my photos of the Beltline were Clearview were from 2020-22. It's unusual when Clearview is the rare bird...
POO.
'Nuff said.
Wisconsin used to use little white 'reference point' signs, an equivalent of New York's 'little green signs', but stopped installing them by the early-mid 1970s. I still remember one in Appleton that lingered into the early 2000s and WI 55 was still lined with them through the Menominee Indian Reservation to last time that I drove it a decade or so ago, but I don't have the time nor interest in seeing if they are still there.
Mike
Quote from: Big John on March 07, 2024, 06:32:31 PM
Blank highway shields in Madison:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/52CbqSkBN8KrkWCdA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/72KVKqh2hTzjzsSJA
That is odd i wonder why they did that
Quote from: hockeyjohn on March 07, 2024, 05:10:46 PM
Do Not Pass / Pass With Care. When my family lived in Wisconsin in the 1970s, they were both used with the No Passing Zone signs like Michigan continues to use. Not sure when they were pulled up leaving only No Passing Zone signs, but they are rare now.
They're still used in the City of Milwaukee in less urbanized areas. Fond Du Lac Ave (parallel to the freeway), 91st St, and Boundary Rd are some places where they can be found.
Quote from: peterj920 on March 08, 2024, 12:41:04 AM
Quote from: hockeyjohn on March 07, 2024, 05:10:46 PM
Do Not Pass / Pass With Care. When my family lived in Wisconsin in the 1970s, they were both used with the No Passing Zone signs like Michigan continues to use. Not sure when they were pulled up leaving only No Passing Zone signs, but they are rare now.
They're still used in the City of Milwaukee in less urbanized areas. Fond Du Lac Ave (parallel to the freeway), 91st St, and Boundary Rd are some places where they can be found.
Yep, I have seen some here in franklin as well
Quote from: WhyLifeIs4 on March 07, 2024, 11:09:54 PM
Quote from: Big John on March 07, 2024, 06:32:31 PM
Blank highway shields in Madison:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/52CbqSkBN8KrkWCdA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/72KVKqh2hTzjzsSJA
That is odd i wonder why they did that
Probably because there are three interstates east of town and four US highways on the Beltline. The downtown Madison streets can be confusing if you aren't from the area so it makes sense in the context of where these signs are.
Quote from: hockeyjohn on March 07, 2024, 05:10:46 PM
Do Not Pass / Pass With Care. When my family lived in Wisconsin in the 1970s, they were both used with the No Passing Zone signs like Michigan continues to use. Not sure when they were pulled up leaving only No Passing Zone signs, but they are rare now.
I recall seeing Pass With Care signs still in use in another state recently, but I can't remember which right now. I start a long road trip soon, so I'm sure I'll see them again then.
Quote from: SEWIGuy on March 08, 2024, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: WhyLifeIs4 on March 07, 2024, 11:09:54 PM
Quote from: Big John on March 07, 2024, 06:32:31 PM
Blank highway shields in Madison:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/52CbqSkBN8KrkWCdA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/72KVKqh2hTzjzsSJA
That is odd i wonder why they did that
Probably because there are three interstates east of town and four US highways on the Beltline. The downtown Madison streets can be confusing if you aren't from the area so it makes sense in the context of where these signs are.
The blank interstate shield over by East Town Mall makes a ton of sense even though it looks odd. Locals and traffic reporters will usually just refer to that stretch of 39/90/94 as the "interstate". It's probably less confusing than putting up three separate shields.
Quote from: jwags on March 08, 2024, 09:03:03 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on March 08, 2024, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: WhyLifeIs4 on March 07, 2024, 11:09:54 PM
Quote from: Big John on March 07, 2024, 06:32:31 PM
Blank highway shields in Madison:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/52CbqSkBN8KrkWCdA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/72KVKqh2hTzjzsSJA
That is odd i wonder why they did that
That makes sense
Probably because there are three interstates east of town and four US highways on the Beltline. The downtown Madison streets can be confusing if you aren't from the area so it makes sense in the context of where these signs are.
The blank interstate shield over by East Town Mall makes a ton of sense even though it looks odd. Locals and traffic reporters will usually just refer to that stretch of 39/90/94 as the "interstate". It's probably less confusing than putting up three separate shields.
Quote from: WhyLifeIs4 on March 08, 2024, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: jwags on March 08, 2024, 09:03:03 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on March 08, 2024, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: WhyLifeIs4 on March 07, 2024, 11:09:54 PM
Quote from: Big John on March 07, 2024, 06:32:31 PM
Blank highway shields in Madison:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/52CbqSkBN8KrkWCdA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/72KVKqh2hTzjzsSJA
That is odd i wonder why they did that
That makes sense
Probably because there are three interstates east of town and four US highways on the Beltline. The downtown Madison streets can be confusing if you aren't from the area so it makes sense in the context of where these signs are.
The blank interstate shield over by East Town Mall makes a ton of sense even though it looks odd. Locals and traffic reporters will usually just refer to that stretch of 39/90/94 as the "interstate". It's probably less confusing than putting up three separate shields.
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The opposite of using a blank shield to point folks toward "the interstate".
(https://triplemultiplex.files.wordpress.com/2024/03/fleet_farm.jpg)
Not sure if that's still there after they did work on WI 19 that makes you go west by the new Kwik Trip to turn left toward the interstate. That photo was from 2019 when the Fleet Farm north of Madison was brand new.
Quote from: triplemultiplex on March 08, 2024, 11:55:12 AM
The opposite of using a blank shield to point folks toward "the interstate".
(https://triplemultiplex.files.wordpress.com/2024/03/fleet_farm.jpg)
Not sure if that's still there after they did work on WI 19 that makes you go west by the new Kwik Trip to turn left toward the interstate. That photo was from 2019 when the Fleet Farm north of Madison was brand new.
I don't know why that looks so off to me
Quote from: triplemultiplex on March 08, 2024, 11:55:12 AM
The opposite of using a blank shield to point folks toward "the interstate".
(https://triplemultiplex.files.wordpress.com/2024/03/fleet_farm.jpg)
Not sure if that's still there after they did work on WI 19 that makes you go west by the new Kwik Trip to turn left toward the interstate. That photo was from 2019 when the Fleet Farm north of Madison was brand new.
Coords?
Quote from: hockeyjohn on March 07, 2024, 05:10:46 PM
Do Not Pass / Pass With Care. When my family lived in Wisconsin in the 1970s, they were both used with the No Passing Zone signs like Michigan continues to use. Not sure when they were pulled up leaving only No Passing Zone signs, but they are rare now.
Quote from: invincor on March 08, 2024, 08:49:26 AM
I recall seeing Pass With Care signs still in use in another state recently, but I can't remember which right now. I start a long road trip soon, so I'm sure I'll see them again then.
Guys, guys!
DO NOT PASS and PASS WITH CARE are standard signs in the MUTCD. R4-1 and R4-2, respectively. If anything, the yellow pennant is
less standard, recommended if "for additional emphasis" is needed.
Verbiage from the current edition:
Quote from: MUTCD, 11th Edition
Section 2B.36 — DO NOT PASS Sign (R4-1)
Option:
01 — The Do Not Pass (R4-1) sign (see Figure 2B-10) may be used in addition to pavement markings (see Section 3B.03) to emphasize the restriction on passing. The Do Not Pass sign may be used at the beginning of, and at intervals within, a zone through which sight distance is restricted or where other conditions make overtaking and passing inappropriate.
02 — If signing is needed on the left-hand side of the roadway for additional emphasis, NO PASSING ZONE (W14-3) signs may be used (see Section 2C.53).
Support:
03 — Standards for determining the location and extent of no-passing zone pavement markings are set forth in Section 3B.03.
Section 2B.37 — PASS WITH CARE Sign (R4-2)
Guidance:
01 — The PASS WITH CARE (R4-2) sign (see Figure 2B-10) should be installed at the downstream end of a no passing zone if a Do Not Pass sign has been installed at the upstream end of the zone.
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Quote from: Big John on March 08, 2024, 11:03:50 AM
The problem is if there is a long quote, the quote box does not bring you to the bottom of it and then you make the reply to it not realizing you are not at the bottom where you should be.
This is why, if you are quoting someone in your post, you should ALWAYS use the [Preview] button. If it isn't correct, then either fix it or start over.
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The problem is if there is a long quote, the quote box does not bring you to the bottom of it and then you make the reply to it not realizing you are not at the bottom where you should be.
This is why, if you are quoting someone in your post, you should ALWAYS use the [Preview] button. If it isn't correct, then either fix it or start over.
Is this right?
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