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Title: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: Avalanchez71 on May 20, 2024, 09:32:46 PM
How many marked county roads are out there with the county pentagon signed along with the US highways? 

US 85/CR 12 Zahl, ND as an example.

https://www.google.com/maps/@48.5037927,-103.6243253,3a,15y,23.26h,87.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-7gSEAnp_ADMrSky8ka7ow!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.5037927,-103.6243253,3a,15y,23.26h,87.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-7gSEAnp_ADMrSky8ka7ow!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 20, 2024, 09:48:17 PM
There are some of them in New Jersey, though not always with pentagons.
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: NE2 on May 21, 2024, 12:01:35 AM
A county route on an Interstate:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/M2yUMtGB2tCU5T597
https://maps.app.goo.gl/cEBDWpirKTofe6FR9
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 21, 2024, 12:13:12 AM
Can't think of any for California.  There is a couple that multiplex state highways but in general the Letter County Routes are sparsely signed.
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: KeithE4Phx on May 21, 2024, 12:46:37 AM
Replacing a post I deleted because I misread the title (I'd posted a concurrent state/county highway):

Also in Wisconsin, here is a 3-way (US/State/County) concurrency north of Antigo:  US 45, WI 47, and County J.  Hwy J isn't well marked on 45/47 (if at all, other than at each end), but this is a concurrency for about 3 miles, until J veers east at the north end, and west at the south end.

Northern intersection:  https://www.google.com/maps/@45.3369691,-89.1503357,3a,15y,169.4h,89.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGkn53yH7spnbHIca-U5OYw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Southern intersection:  https://www.google.com/maps/@45.2832492,-89.1503813,3a,15y,24.1h,91.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3qQ2d04Ft6wtTVTc8yYqgQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: Molandfreak on May 21, 2024, 03:29:36 AM
Not with a pentagon since Olmsted County doesn't use them, but MN/DOT gives Olmsted CSAH 12 equal treatment along its overlap with US 52 (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1510947,-92.530695,3a,15y,27.59h,88.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssKvHrNg4T_EbZoZYg9cdBg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en-US&entry=ttu).
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: formulanone on May 21, 2024, 07:12:18 AM
US27 and CR561 used to be duplexed in Minneola, Florida. Now it's "To CR 561". (https://www.google.com/maps/@28.590645,-81.7519427,3a,44.9y,339.82h,91.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sn98sMSldiR0wXqQK5ft0aw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) (I think I've seen another in Florida, but can't remember where.)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7471/29625758290_5d6be3730b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/M8VKN3)

What is it with CR 551 in New Jersey?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51648934312_603491db56_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mG3hKs)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48170257307_80ae712d6a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2goDagH)

Wisconsin Dells:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50966143246_83b0b29e5a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kDGNKG)

I think I've seen a few more in Wisconsin, but can't recall them right now.
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: 74/171FAN on May 21, 2024, 07:29:13 AM
US 9 SB/CR 547 SB Concurrency in Lakewood, NJ (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219945883877964&set=a.10219945912918690)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53736449738_e89d5fcd16_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: GaryV on May 21, 2024, 07:57:32 AM
C-48 is co-signed with US-131 in Boyne Falls: https://maps.app.goo.gl/e2B6ri4ipsnMTVBp8
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: MATraveler128 on May 22, 2024, 11:28:47 AM
Nothing around my area as New England doesn't do county routes. Might be some examples in New Jersey.
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: 74/171FAN on May 22, 2024, 11:58:53 AM
Quote from: MATraveler128 on May 22, 2024, 11:28:47 AMNothing around my area as New England doesn't do county routes. Might be some examples in New Jersey.

You do realize that formulanone and myself have already posted examples above from NJ.   :nod:
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: formulanone on May 22, 2024, 05:10:22 PM
I think this violator was near Arlington:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50965434838_053f75e79d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kDDbaL)

This one was in town; a lot going on here...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50966139166_0867fd9ffa_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kDGMxm)
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: SEWIGuy on May 22, 2024, 05:25:52 PM
Why do you say "violator?" Are county highways not supposed to be signed with USH's?
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on May 23, 2024, 12:35:37 AM
There is a marked county route on a US freeway in Wisconsin, Dane CTH-M on the Beltline in Middleton.
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: DandyDan on May 23, 2024, 07:40:55 AM
US 65 going south from the I-35 interchange at the south end of Albert Lea, MN is signed with Freeborn County Road 84.

The one I know about in Iowa is Floyd County T64 signed with US 18 at the south end of Charles City. I know county roads and US and Iowa highways overlap, but the situation in Charles City is the only place in Iowa I know the county road is signed on a state maintained highway.
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: Alex on May 23, 2024, 09:23:00 AM
Quote from: formulanone on May 21, 2024, 07:12:18 AMUS27 and CR561 used to be duplexed in Minneola, Florida. Now it's "To CR 561". (I think I've seen another in Florida, but can't remember where.)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7471/29625758290_5d6be3730b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/M8VKN3)

I thought of this former cosigning as well and shot the replacement TO assembly in February:

(https://www.aaroads.com/fl/027/us-027-n-at-cr-561-3.jpg)

CR 561 west around Lake Minneola is poorly signed anyway.

Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: thspfc on May 23, 2024, 05:22:16 PM
Quote from: formulanone on May 22, 2024, 05:10:22 PMThis one was in town; a lot going on here...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50966139166_0867fd9ffa_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kDGMxm)
This is one of many examples of WISDOT being exceptionally, well, WISDOT. A US highway, county road, Interstate alternate route, and state route detour signed on the same road.
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: froggie on May 23, 2024, 05:39:22 PM
Not a current example, but pre-1988 there was an I-35W/CSAH 62 concurrency in Minneapolis.

I don't recall if CSAH 1 is signed with US 169 along the Bloomington/Eden Prairie (MN) line or if that is considered a hidden concurrency or split route.
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: Bitmapped on May 23, 2024, 08:49:51 PM
US 119 and Monongalia CR 857 are briefly multiplexed outside Morgantown, West Virginia. CR 857 is one of the few county routes that WVDOH signs with standalone markers as opposed to just putting shields on road name signs. Photo: https://maps.app.goo.gl/T4t3dLGB5ym8oF3H9
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: kirbykart on May 23, 2024, 08:59:15 PM
Cattaraugus CR 32, the only county route signed concurrent with another route anywhere in Catt. County (as far as I am aware) is not with a US Route, but with a state route for its entire length, rendering the designation completely pointless.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Q3UhaWi2wLXr5SfeA
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: vdeane on May 23, 2024, 09:09:24 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on May 23, 2024, 08:59:15 PMCattaraugus CR 32, the only county route signed concurrent with another route anywhere in Catt. County (as far as I am aware) is not with a US Route, but with a state route for its entire length, rendering the designation completely pointless.
http://8329%20ny-240%20https://maps.app.goo.gl/Q3UhaWi2wLXr5SfeA
Ah, one of NY's many county-maintained touring routes.  Sullivan County is full of them.
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on May 28, 2024, 01:50:02 AM
Quote from: froggie on May 23, 2024, 05:39:22 PMI don't recall if CSAH 1 is signed with US 169 along the Bloomington/Eden Prairie (MN) line or if that is considered a hidden concurrency or split route.

It's unsigned on the freeway and partially signed on CSAH 1. While it's implied going west on Old Shakopee Road to follow US 169 north to stay on CSAH 1, going east on Pioneer Trail there is no mention of where CSAH 1 goes.

I don't know if it makes a difference that the Old Shakopee Road side is Bloomington and the Pioneer Trail side is Eden Prairie, if there's some city-level difference that accounts for it.
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: Dough4872 on May 28, 2024, 07:41:48 PM
Plenty of examples in New Jersey. US 206/CR 521, and as shown above US 130/CR 551, US 130/CR 543, and US 9/CR 547.
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: formulanone on May 29, 2024, 11:02:25 AM
US 30 and Atlantic CR 563:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48170254082_7daec65a26_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2goD9j7)
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: freebrickproductions on June 14, 2024, 04:58:45 PM
Admittedly, there ain't any reassurance assemblies and it ain't super well signed, but Shelby County Route 52 and US 31 do have a short concurrency in Pelham, AL:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.2855839,-86.8107877,3a,15y,110.18h,93.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stKzwUBXdt8laOhzYuY2v9Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205409&entry=ttu
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: TheCatalyst31 on June 15, 2024, 12:53:32 AM
Quote from: thspfc on May 23, 2024, 05:22:16 PM
Quote from: formulanone on May 22, 2024, 05:10:22 PMThis one was in town; a lot going on here...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50966139166_0867fd9ffa_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kDGMxm)
This is one of many examples of WISDOT being exceptionally, well, WISDOT. A US highway, county road, Interstate alternate route, and state route detour signed on the same road.

I found another example (https://maps.app.goo.gl/EdhbwSB68kR8k6rd6) without really trying. I was trying to find an Interstate-county highway concurrency in that area that I thought existed but apparently doesn't, and got that instead. I almost wonder if OP mentioned the pentagon as a subtle way of not counting WisDOT's two zillion examples of this.
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: Dirt Roads on June 15, 2024, 10:27:23 AM
Quote from: Bitmapped on May 23, 2024, 08:49:51 PMUS 119 and Monongalia CR 857 are briefly multiplexed outside Morgantown, West Virginia. CR 857 is one of the few county routes that WVDOH signs with standalone markers as opposed to just putting shields on road name signs. Photo: https://maps.app.goo.gl/T4t3dLGB5ym8oF3H9

This is certainly an oddity that belongs here, but Secondary 857 is considered an LSR route rather than a county route.  There are at least 6 different LSRs in the WVDOH route lists.  I've always called them "long" secondary routes, but most of them are not long nor do they all cross county lines (like this LSR-857).  Most of them are downgraded State Routes.  LSR-857 is an oddity in the LSR numbering because it isn't numbered from its predecessor (WV-73), but rather from the connection to PA-857 turning up along Fairchance Road.
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: Dirt Roads on June 15, 2024, 10:33:37 AM
West Virginia has another oddity (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3727018,-81.6649472,3a,75y,302.08h,80.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGIqWEawmWHwLcFlO9QWx4w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205409&entry=ttu) with LSR routes, with this overhead on the Seventh Avenue portion of the "Iowa Street Crazy Loop" in the far West End of Charleston.   LSR-21 is the former US-21, but the route is not shown in the WVDOH's Control Destination Logs.  When first constructed, this location was the official intersection of US-21/US-35/US-60 (even though US-21 and US-35 never actually intersected, with both ending a block away from this location).
Title: Re: Marked County Road Concurrent with US Highway
Post by: wanderer2575 on June 15, 2024, 10:53:39 AM
Levering, MI:

(https://i.imgur.com/Vf6qNJc.jpg)