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Title: I-270 Denver metro projects
Post by: Elm on July 12, 2024, 09:25:15 PM
CDOT's been thinking about doing something with I-270 for a while across several studies and subprojects, and the process continues. The current main project website is here: I-270 Corridor Improvements Study (https://www.codot.gov/projects/studies/i270study), and that's supposed to finish by winter 2025.

Sooner, this year, work should start on Vasquez Blvd north of I-270, as Vasquez Boulevard Improvements: I-270 to 64th Avenue (https://www.codot.gov/projects/vasquezimprovements).

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Looking back at studies and projects that have built up to this:

Nearby, CDOT's also been preparing for work on Vasquez Blvd north of I-270:
Title: Re: I-270 Denver metro projects
Post by: Plutonic Panda on July 14, 2024, 05:34:15 PM
Just widen it to four lanes each way jeeze
Title: Re: I-270 Denver metro projects
Post by: Great Lakes Roads on July 14, 2024, 07:03:44 PM
CDOT: Trying to figure out how many lanes should be on I-270
Also CDOT: Sees toll lanes and have cash signs on their eyes
Title: Re: I-270 Denver metro projects
Post by: The Ghostbuster on July 14, 2024, 09:51:25 PM
Interstate 270 probably should have been constructed with three lanes in each direction along its entire length from the get-go, instead of just the later-constructed Interstate 25-to-Interstate 76 segment.
Title: Re: I-270 Denver metro projects
Post by: thenetwork on July 14, 2024, 09:56:23 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on July 14, 2024, 07:03:44 PMCDOT: Trying to figure out how many lanes should be on I-270
Also CDOT: Sees toll lanes and have cash signs on their eyes

I STILL say CDOT should duplex I-270 along the westernmost section of I-76 between I-25 and I-70 on the west side of town, and add a 3rd lane through this section.  This would allow I-270 to return to it's parent route and to provide a true relief route when I-70 through central Denver gets gummed up.

Plus that near-western section of I-70 is (over)due for a modern upgrade between I-25 and I-76 anyway, so start planning for the alternate route in advance, unlike what CDOT did during the viaduct teardown -- nothing!!!
Title: Re: I-270 Denver metro projects
Post by: JayhawkCO on July 15, 2024, 08:44:31 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 14, 2024, 09:56:23 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on July 14, 2024, 07:03:44 PMCDOT: Trying to figure out how many lanes should be on I-270
Also CDOT: Sees toll lanes and have cash signs on their eyes

I STILL say CDOT should duplex I-270 along the westernmost section of I-76 between I-25 and I-70 on the west side of town, and add a 3rd lane through this section.  This would allow I-270 to return to it's parent route and to provide a true relief route when I-70 through central Denver gets gummed up.

Plus that near-western section of I-70 is (over)due for a modern upgrade between I-25 and I-76 anyway, so start planning for the alternate route in advance, unlike what CDOT did during the viaduct teardown -- nothing!!!

I don't think just adding signs to an already existing route does anything to help alleviate traffic.
Title: Re: I-270 Denver metro projects
Post by: zzcarp on July 15, 2024, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on July 15, 2024, 08:44:31 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 14, 2024, 09:56:23 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on July 14, 2024, 07:03:44 PMCDOT: Trying to figure out how many lanes should be on I-270
Also CDOT: Sees toll lanes and have cash signs on their eyes

I STILL say CDOT should duplex I-270 along the westernmost section of I-76 between I-25 and I-70 on the west side of town, and add a 3rd lane through this section.  This would allow I-270 to return to it's parent route and to provide a true relief route when I-70 through central Denver gets gummed up.

Plus that near-western section of I-70 is (over)due for a modern upgrade between I-25 and I-76 anyway, so start planning for the alternate route in advance, unlike what CDOT did during the viaduct teardown -- nothing!!!

I don't think just adding signs to an already existing route does anything to help alleviate traffic.

I-76 west of I-25 is only two lanes in each direction, and it already jams during rush hour traffic. Without extra lanes, it won't be much of a relief route.
Title: Re: I-270 Denver metro projects
Post by: JayhawkCO on July 15, 2024, 01:55:27 PM
Quote from: zzcarp on July 15, 2024, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on July 15, 2024, 08:44:31 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 14, 2024, 09:56:23 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on July 14, 2024, 07:03:44 PMCDOT: Trying to figure out how many lanes should be on I-270
Also CDOT: Sees toll lanes and have cash signs on their eyes

I STILL say CDOT should duplex I-270 along the westernmost section of I-76 between I-25 and I-70 on the west side of town, and add a 3rd lane through this section.  This would allow I-270 to return to it's parent route and to provide a true relief route when I-70 through central Denver gets gummed up.

Plus that near-western section of I-70 is (over)due for a modern upgrade between I-25 and I-76 anyway, so start planning for the alternate route in advance, unlike what CDOT did during the viaduct teardown -- nothing!!!

I don't think just adding signs to an already existing route does anything to help alleviate traffic.

I-76 west of I-25 is only two lanes in each direction, and it already jams during rush hour traffic. Without extra lanes, it won't be much of a relief route.

Anecdotally, any time I've needed to go through the Mousetrap on I-70, GMaps has never said I-270->I-76 (or vv) was faster than just sticking it out on I-70. I think people like having detours that it's actually incredibly rarely advantageous to take.
Title: Re: I-270 Denver metro projects
Post by: mrose on July 20, 2024, 03:33:52 AM
Adding nothing but express lanes will not solve the congestion problems this route has.
Title: Re: I-270 Denver metro projects
Post by: Elm on January 17, 2025, 07:05:12 PM
Open houses for I-270 coming up (https://www.codot.gov/news/2025/january/public-input-i270-corridor-improvements), January 29 through February 4.

This follows an August 2024 announcement of a Notice of Intent To Prepare an EIS (https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/08/20/2024-18587/notice-of-intent-to-prepare-an-environmental-impact-statement-for-a-proposed-highway-project-adams), and this supplementary information document (https://www.codot.gov/projects/studies/i270study/assets/i-270-noi-additional-information_-rev-4_reformatted-remediated.pdf) (nothing particularly new or interesting). CDOT's had booths at some community events and office hours since then, apparently.

"Construction is anticipated to start late 2026."

Last month, they also started repairs on the York St bridge (https://www.codot.gov/projects/i270yorkstreetbridge), one of the bridges in the second batch of "critical bridges" in need of repairs sooner than the overall I-270 study process would get to them.
Title: Re: I-270 Denver metro projects
Post by: Plutonic Panda on January 17, 2025, 08:15:49 PM
CDOT is an absolute joke. Worse than Caltrans.
Title: Re: I-270 Denver metro projects
Post by: thenetwork on January 17, 2025, 10:37:10 PM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on January 17, 2025, 08:15:49 PMCDOT is an absolute joke. Worse than Caltrans.

The CDOT-maintained roads in my part of the state are pretty decent in road surface quality, BUT...

As far as proper MUTCD-compliant signage on BGSs, proper signing of state & US routes at intersections, signing MULTIPLEXED routes, and encouraging using FYAs in my district instead of protected reds...They get a C-Minus.

EXAMPLE:  After 2 years the big Black & White signs on I-70 at the Port of Entry Weigh Stations in both directions STILL say ALL COMMERICAL VEHICLES MUST EXIT instead of COMMERCIAL.

"Welcome to Colorful Colorado...Where our DOT can't spell, read MUTCD manuals, nor use common sense".
Title: Re: I-270 Denver metro projects
Post by: Bobby5280 on January 18, 2025, 05:53:06 PM
Colorado lawmakers appear to think anyone can get to any location in the state using mass transit, a bicycle or walking. So they don't want to encourage any motor vehicle use by doing anything such as making the state's highways safer and more efficient. If a rash of head-on collisions and T-bone collisions are happening along a busy 2-lane road their response is definitely not 4-laning the arterial. Maybe it's spending money on a public awareness campaign about the joys of bicycling. Yeah, riding a bike is something I want to do on a freezing, windy January day.